A triangular, strange Esolang

Mr. Xcoder

19:13

49 bytes Try it online!

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ I forgot about reindexing from STDIN

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing caird-is-wrong: – Proof.

Sorry! Multiple pings

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Markdown doesn't work like that. And you have the arguments the wrong way round

Mr. Xcoder

No, I don't

That's the way they are supposed to be

caird coinheringaahing

> h(10, 20)

Mr. Xcoder

19:16

Yes. I don't see what's wrong

caird coinheringaahing

The others are f(20, 10)

Mr. Xcoder

You need 20 - 10 * (20 // 10)

@cairdcoinheringaahing Notice the order my Triangularity program is taking input? ಠ_ಠ

If you insist, #1 - #2 * (#1 // #2)

do we agree now @caird?

caird coinheringaahing

Yep :P

Mr. Xcoder

so modulo is 49 bytes...

@cairdcoinheringaahing I just saw your PR. Analysing now

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Proof that they're exactly the same thing :P

Huh, that didn't syntax error :P

Mr. Xcoder

19:23

@cairdcoinheringaahing Now that we have W fixed (once pulled), do you think print is still needed?

caird coinheringaahing

I think it's a bit like BrainFlak and BrainFlak classic. It allows for infinite printing (if you add loops)

Also, mass leave just then :P

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Also, is pair really needed?

I do agree on J, though

caird coinheringaahing

Depends if you want to save bytes or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mr. Xcoder

I don't really want to save bytes :P I'd like to keep it minimalistic. Thanks for the changes to J though, is there any way to merge only one part of the code?:P

caird coinheringaahing

Reject the PR, then edit it yourself :P

Mr. Xcoder

19:27

Or accept and delete the other too. Thanks!

Maybe I'll add N back if I implement loops

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder I forgot about Python overloading :P

Mr. Xcoder

room topic changed to A triangular, strang Esolang: A room for the Triangularity esolang: github.com/Mr-Xcoder/Triangularity (no tags)

Welcome to Triangularity!

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room topic changed to A triangular, strange Esolang: A room for the Triangularity esolang: github.com/Mr-Xcoder/Triangularity (no tags)

@cairdcoinheringaahing Challenge:

> Find the absolute value (e.g. f(-8192)=8192, f(11)=11)

caird coinheringaahing

Do you want to get an RO to move the messages across, or leave it be?

@Mr.Xcoder 49 bytes

Mr. Xcoder

I am writing in TNB

@cairdcoinheringaahing That was fast. Wait for me now :P

wizzwizz4

← 33 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte

caird coinheringaahing

19:33

@Mr.Xcoder I'd already done it :P

@wizzwizz4 Woah, that was weird :P

wizzwizz4

@cairdcoinheringaahing How so?

Mr. Xcoder

Hmm, absolute value

caird coinheringaahing

@wizzwizz4 A bunch of messages just appeared, sweeping down the screen

Mr. Xcoder

I think 31 bytes

BTW, @cairdcoinheringaahing thanks for using my odd language and being very good at it

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder No problem, I like using obscure languages :P

It's much easier than Jelly :P

Mr. Xcoder

19:38

Crap, you can't multiply by 0 :(

Unless you use J which isn't live yet

Wait...

caird coinheringaahing

I got confused about why W was still outputting with [...] at the end, before realising it hadn't been pulled yet :/

Mr. Xcoder

Come on Mr. Xcoder, why r u so slow

I need coffee ಠ_ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

I thought you didn't drink it?

Mr. Xcoder

I don't.

I was talking about our conversation :)

Ok... How to implement sign...

Wait I added comparisons ಠ_ಠ Ugh

caird coinheringaahing

I've got to go eat dinner. Be back in about an hour o/

Mr. Xcoder

19:44

Ok.

Enjoy your meal. I'll solve it in the meantime I think

Mr. Xcoder

20:00

@cairdcoinheringaahing Absolute value: 31 bytes – Try it online!

Alternative.

Even better.

caird coinheringaahing

20:38

What do you think about adding in auto-padding?

Then it would allow for bytecounts that aren't just one of a small set of values

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Example?

caird coinheringaahing

This instead of this

Mr. Xcoder

Just on the last line?

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah. It would feel less annoying when you have a final line like +...........

Mr. Xcoder

Ok... If Dennis didn't pull it yet, I'll implement that quickly

caird coinheringaahing

20:44

If it were on any other lines, it would kinda defeat the purpose though, so it'd either be the last line, or no lines

Mr. Xcoder

Uhm, I've been thinking about it... I don't really see the point now. Not a golfing language, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But I think I'll do it anyway

caird coinheringaahing

It does allow for byte savings that aren't 18 bytes for instance. Making a clever change, then keeping the same byte count can be quite annoying :P

Mr. Xcoder

Indeed.

While it can be really fun to strive for those bytes

caird coinheringaahing

But, it's your language. Don't feel pressured into doing it if you don;t want to

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing I pushed to master again:

if not all(len(elem) == length * 2 - 1 if index != len(lines) else len(elem) <= length * 2 - 1 for index, elem in enumerate(lines))

Instead of if not all(len(elem) == length * 2 - 1 for elem in lines)

Because anyways we want to prevent loopholes

caird coinheringaahing

20:53

You weren't kidding about the writing bad code, were you? :P

Mr. Xcoder

No I wasn't :P

caird coinheringaahing

A simple code[-1] += '.' * len(code[0]) would work :P

Mr. Xcoder

Uhm, no...

caird coinheringaahing

If code is the list of lines

Mr. Xcoder

Because that would make it like:

..)..
.829.
+.....

caird coinheringaahing

20:55

code[-1] += '.' * (len(code[0]) - len(code[-1]))

Mr. Xcoder

It would be code[-1] = (code[-1] + '.' * len(code[0]))[:len(code[0]))]

Or that

I am going to leave it as-is, though

caird coinheringaahing

Or .ljust :PPP

Mr. Xcoder

Yup. Now let's grab a challenge

ಠ_ಠ There's nothing you can do without map

caird coinheringaahing

21:27

Can you think of a challenge to do in Triangularity? I'm writing a Sandbox post (based on it)

Mr. Xcoder

→ 20 messages moved to trash

I figured that we weren't really on-topic

caird coinheringaahing

You used the wrong trash (but yes, we were off topic) :/

Mr. Xcoder

No, I am not using the wrong trash...?

The owners of TNB have a separate, Gallery trash

caird coinheringaahing

Ah

Mr. Xcoder

The great 11

caird coinheringaahing

21:38

I'll try to think of a challenge to do in Triangularity

Mr. Xcoder

But if you post something on Main dedicated to it, please make it doable in it :)

caird coinheringaahing

That'll be very tough

It's about taking a flat string, then making it into a valid rectangle (example coming)

Mr. Xcoder

I see.

caird coinheringaahing

ABCDEFGHI

=>

..A..
.BCD.
EFGHI

Mr. Xcoder

I think that'll be interesting (my opinion is, of course, biased).

It's definitely impossible right now.

caird coinheringaahing

21:43

Without evaling Python code :/

Mr. Xcoder

Yeah

@cairdcoinheringaahing Challenge: Find the Nth root of an integer. Both N will be positive

9, 2 -> 3

27, 3 -> 3

32, 5 -> 2

@Mr.Xcoder 31 bytes.

When auto-completion is pulled, 26 25 bytes

Make that 26

caird coinheringaahing

26 bytes (auto-complete) here

Mine

Mr. Xcoder

Yeah, the exact same

Except that I used )@.

> Both N

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