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2:59 AM
I just came to know from my professor that the $\therefore$ and $\because$ symbols are outdated and are not used in scientific literature anymore.
I strongly doubted it but really could not find those symbols in research papers.
Is it really true that these are used in schools only nowadays?
 
In school, you use whatever the teacher says to use.
 
3:21 AM
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@user4539917 lol true :) I missed the word "only" in the last sentence...I wanted to know whether these symbols are used in research papers anymore...
 
4:18 AM
@Feynman_00 I think the issue is that a group is, at its core, a set $G$ with a composition operation $G\times G\rightarrow G$ which obeys the group composition rules. Ultimately the group elements have to actually be something - matrices, functions, sets, etc. If two groups are isomorphic to one another (in whatever sense is relevant in a given context), then they can be the same from the perspective of group theory even if their elements are different types of object.
The most common concrete definitions of the 3D rotation group use either the set of orientation-preserving isometries of $\mathbb R^3$ which fix the origin or more concretely the set of $3\times 3$ orthogonal matrices with determinant +1, which follows from the former set via an arbitrary choice of orthonormal basis. These are, strictly speaking, different groups because their carrier sets are not the same, but they are isomorphic in an obvious way.
When people talk about the "abstract" rotation group, they are essentially referring to the group structure while "forgetting" about the concrete carrier set which underlies the group. In that sense, I tend to think of the abstract rotation group essentially as an equivalence class of groups all related by (Lie group) isomorphism.
 
 
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5:57 AM
@ManasDogra those symbols look very familiar, what are they again?
 
6:07 AM
physics.stackexchange.com/questions/740445/… I wonder what you'd do in classical mechanics to solve a system where the forces dont act on a calculated COM
 
∴ = "therefore" and ∵ = "because"
 
I might have seen that in my intro to logic class.. seems familiar.
What do you think of this question, besides the fact that it's extremely redundant :P @JohnRennie
 
I remember being taught to use these in maths and science classes in the 1970s, but now it has been mentioned I haven't seen them used in a paper for ages.
@Obliv You can select any point to use as the origin, but if the point isn't at the COM the resulting frame will be non-inertial.
You can work in a non-inertial frame of course, but it greatly complicates the equations of motion.
 
I can't seem to wrap my head around what the user is asking.. If we're talking about a rigid body then the force simply travels down TO the COM
well I guess the entire body is affected
The whole concept of tracking motion in classical mechanics is to treat the object as a point-like particle
 
I tried to ask this question but it got closed: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/740326/…. I think it counts as a conceptual question, rather than a check-my-work question, so I'm not sure how to edit it to make it follow the rules. Can anyone help point me in the right direction?
 
6:24 AM
Might not make a difference but it seems like you wrote the equation wrong @AlexWaese-Perlman
 
Oh yeah I swapped the moments of inertia. Thanks for noticing
I'm editing it right now
 
I haven't taken statics yet but I would just set the angular forces equal to each other using the torque formulas
i'm assuming the wheels produce downward force and $\Omega$ gives you an upward force just based on the question's phrasing.
 
Yeah that is my approach to answer the question but I have two contradicting ways of relating torque to the angular velocity
 
6:58 AM
hm from my minimal understanding of finite group theory. If you have a finite group G acting on a non-empty set. Then, there exists a homomorphism from G into the symmetric group (by definition of a group action), giving you a permutation representation of the action. Then, there exists a homomorphism from the permutation representation into the (linear) representation. Can you go backwards to find the original, most abstract group?
this is to do with feynman's q
 
7:43 AM
does sakurai not use the term entanglement?
Hm. I am confused there doesn't seem to be any mention of entanglement in the book. Is correlation the same as entanglement in quantum mechanics?
 
8:01 AM
why does taking the cartesian product of subsystems and then pulling a state out of that space imply that the state will be a product of states of the subsystem?
to me a cartesian product does not output anything but an ordered pair
 
123
8:30 AM
Hi All..
Hello @JohnRennie Sir
 
Hi :-)
 
123
Pls explain what is pressure.
 
21 hours ago, by 123
What is the correct definition of pressure?
 
123
The force in pressure is (1) Force applied at which the area force is applied. or (2) Force distributed the complete area (2) Force feel by the area.
@JohnRennie Aye sir , I am trying to understand the idea of pressure. There are many ways to explain this. What is correct?
 
If you consider some surface with a total area A then we can divide it up into tiny parts with area dA. Then we add up all these tiny parts to get the total area:
A = dA₁ + dA₂ + dA₃ + ...
OK so far?
 
123
8:33 AM
@JohnRennie Aye Sir.
Pls explain with example. Like wall. If i apply a force on the wall at some area of wall. What is pressure in this case.
 
Now we can measure the force on each area. The force may not be constant i.e. the forces on different areas may be different, but because each dA is so small the force can be taken as constant over the area dA.
 
does anyone have a moderate level resource to get enough information abt quantum entanglement to start reading some papers on the subject? I'm looking at this rn and it's a bit dense xD arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0702225.pdf
 
123
I don't understand that, pressure definition is different on solid , liquid and gas???
@JohnRennie OK sir...
 
Oh wait, this approach is going to run into difficulties. Let me start again.
 
123
@JohnRennie Okay Sir.
 
8:37 AM
Actually, I'm going to have to leave this for now as I'm trying to finish some programming that I have to do.
 
123
@JohnRennie Sure..
 
I probably won't have time to discuss this today, but we can look at it tomorrow.
 
123
@JohnRennie Sir i waiting for you long to find the answer.
I searched on book and internet but still didn't find any answer.
 
8:56 AM
@ManasDogra I have never seen these symbols used in my school days either, I think they're a specific obsession of some teachers
 
Would the tensor product of two states be a matrix?
oop nevermind
 
@Feynman_00 I mean, distinguishing between isomorphic groups is a bit pointless: We usually say a Lie group is a matrix Lie group if it is isomorphic to a group of matrices. Whether it is defined in terms of matrices or not doesn't really matter
 
9:18 AM
You could define it purely in terms of defining operations on a manifold if you wanted I guess
 
9:30 AM
@Slereah Could you help me understand the difference between an outer product, a dyadic product, and a tensor product of two vectors?
In particular, in the context of looking at an element of the tensor product of two hilbert spaces in QM
gah nevermind okay i think i got it figured out lol... looking at google images when you search tensor product of two vectors is quite deceiving. half the pictures are of other products
 
@ACuriousMind Oh ok, so the problem was only in the statement "$\mathrm{SO}(3)$ is a representation". In that case, I'd only make sense of this as "it is the image of the representation", as the representation is a map $G\rightarrow\mathrm{GL}(V)$
 
 
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Mad
12:39 PM
What is meant with cosmic ray flux? i am trying to understand this graph
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-flux-of-cosmic-rays-as-a-function-of-the-energy-Over-a-very-broad-energy-interval-it_fig2_236635142
 
 
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1:59 PM
@Mad it just means particles per unit solid angle per unit time. But since it's in a log-log graph they've just changed the units to give an example at what each point means
 

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