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1:45 AM
its been what feels like forever since I was here
 
 
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4:38 AM
Now it’s TODAY that got to know that my doubts about thermodynamics and electricity were genuine. It took so much (I mean it so much) time to accept electricity as just another form of energy and not something magical. Same with thermodynamics, it took long long time (and finally it was Planck) to understand that heat is really a form of energy
I used to feel tha I was dumb you know bcoz whenever my book wrote “heat is the form of energy” , “electricity is the flow of electrons” I used to get so much hurt bcoz I couldn’t understand these things (you all know understand is not same as accepting the things).
 
 
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7:17 AM
Adventure seeker
on an empty street
 
 
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9:05 AM
Did they fall for each other?
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Q: about my post - Optics - Snell's law (Finding distances) (Frobenius you there?)

PaluMy post was closed but in addition to that it was deleted. I was communicating with a fellow by the name of Frobenius on my post. Hope he sees this. I will like to discuss why the post was totally deleted. I don't understand why the reaction was so 'STRONG' that my post had to be deleted. Hope t...

 
9:22 AM
Is the formula
$$g_E-g=\omega^2 R_E\cos(\theta)$$
Or $$\sin(\theta)$$
Sorry $$(cos(\theta)^2) $$and
Sin squared
Where $$\theta $$ is the colatitude angle
 
9:37 AM
@Knight Snail's law
 
9:56 AM
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Q: My recent answer to a question (1st answer)

RishabThe question was Is tension a conservative force I am getting down votes on my first answer on physics stack exchange I am not sure about the reason. I had explained the doubt using an example of a pendullum.... Could you pls have a check if my answer was relevant to the question? Or was there ...

 
11:23 AM
I meant to say which is the correct formula, the one with cos or the one with sin?
 
11:38 AM
@NovaliumCompany Is it the magic of 🐌 snail ?
 
dsm
12:11 PM
@ACuriousMind I added a 'closure' to my post, connecting things to physics and making it a bit more appropriate for a posting on here. Thanks for the help, that answer cleared my confusion
 
12:30 PM
wow
that's a checkered timeline for sure
eight separate stints in the Reopen review queue
 
 
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2:41 PM
Anyone online? I have to ask a question
 
 
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4:06 PM
@EmilioPisanty do you you follow space exploration?
 
vzn
@Slereah would like to discuss this with you sometime, not totally following your musings, have questions on that, but think there is a solitonic version close to what you are inquiring about, an old conjecture of mine that think is on the horizon of testing/ experiment/ manifestation/ aka result(s). also believe that you would have much of the background required to extract an imminent breakthrough in the area with some not herculean effort... :)
 
4:24 PM
they are just random musings
and I don't think it's doable
 
vzn
@Slereah dont think whats doable? eg a "solitonic hydrogen atom" etc? think youre wrong...!
 
Well I don't think it would have a discrete spectrum!
I know you can have soliton bound systems
 
vzn
@Slereah honestly am very excited by your ideas, have outlined similar ones over the years, came up with this idea many years ago, have been waiting for fluid dynamics software to evolve to the point its possible to simulate, that day is now probably here and has been for a few yrs... aka ripe for discovery™
 
I am flattered by the invite but I don't rly have plans to work on this
 
vzn
4:39 PM
@Slereah :( (sigh) this is near to some of my life work... implore you not to drop it (casually), it is vital + monumental, you raised the issue yourself in a question, maybe my +1 is the only one on your question...!
 
I've got a lot of stuff to work on I'm afraid
And that's not even counting my actual job
 
vzn
@Slereah me too! so yeah, maybe the future of physics can wait a few more years! have a (mundane!) day job too!
 
It has been the future of physics for over a hundred years~
It can probably wait
 
vzn
4:57 PM
@Slereah lol ofc it can wait, just like your physics phd :)
 
Welcome to the real world
 
vzn
(know the feeling...!) life is what happens while youre making other plans™ ps at least read the quanta link it might cheer you up some, it did for me! :) quantamagazine.org/…
 
5:38 PM
@dsm You're welcome - this question exists somewhere in that grey area of "motivated by physics but kinda just pure math" where it's always ambiguous which of the two sites it should go on, so no worries
@EmilioPisanty Fun fact - you voted to leave closed in at least one of the reopen reviews yourself
 
@ACuriousMind so it seems
 
Don’t be discouraged about the state of physics. Biologists haven’t cured cancer, and how long have they been trying? — G. Smith 4 mins ago
 
6:28 PM
I cured cancer once
 
Hey @Slereah I'm super confused about how volume became a 1 form
mind enlightening me?
Relevant question
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Q: Intuition of $dV$ in $PdV$?

More AnonymousI seem to have some misunderstanding of $PdV$ in the first law of thermodynamics. $$ P dV = T dS - d U $$ I have a ballon. I apply some work (or change the temperature inside the balloon). Now, there are $2$ ways I have to describe the change in volume. Measure the change in volume in real sp...

 
Errr it is made from an $n$-form, because a volume is calculated from the span of $n$ vectors?
oh wait you mean in here
 
yes ...
and thanks :)
 
That's just kind of how the theory is built?
You have your contact manifold, made of the energy, your variables and their conjugates
 
But can I just substitute the other definition: "a volume is calculated from the span of $n$ vectors"
?
 
6:35 PM
Yes, but that's not what you're doing here
The volume is a given here
it's just the size of your system
If you want to treat the volume with the actual space, then you have to use statistical mechanics
Thermodynamics is the abstraction of that
so that you only consider the macroscopic measurements
 
Wait doesn't the first law hold in statistical mechanics as well?
This question happened to stem from here by the way
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Q: Positivity of $dt$?

More AnonymousBackground I had an idea to write time $dt$ in the first law of thermodynamics. So let us proceed with the $1$'st law in differential form: $$ dw = T dS - d U $$ where $w$ is the work, $T$ is temperature, $S$ is the entropy and $U$ is the internal energy. Now, let the work be in terms of pres...

 
The first law holds, but it is expressed differently
This is a different system
Statistical mechanics is just fancy QM
 
@Slereah where can I read about this version?
 
in a book about statistical mechanics, I suppose?
or QM in general
 
Any recommendation?
One with a differential geometry point of view?
 
6:38 PM
not really
 
I used tony Guenault statistical mechanics
in my undergrad
didn't have the opportunity to pursue it in my postgrad
 
You don't typically use differential geometry for it
There isn't a lot of geometry involved, usually
You just work in $\mathbb{R}^3$
 
But one could try to right? In say kinetic gas theory?
 
Sure
It's done for thermodynamics in GR, for instance
 
ah ... any good book recommendations for that?
Like what happens to the first law in curved spacetime?
 
6:47 PM
Errr Straumann is the only one I can think of that does it?
 
No
Also it's only like 5 pages
You'd be disappointed
 
@Slereah Link?
 
It's General Relativity, by Straumann
he derives the Boltzmann distribution in GR
 
6:57 PM
 
7:09 PM
I wanna program some tensorflow code but my pip won't install it properly, blqh blqh... is there any way I can run tensorflow code on the web?
 
The worst part of coding nowadays is handling libraries, unfortunately
sometimes I just recode neural networks from scratch rather than having to deal with libraries
 
@Slereah I need libraries, I'm still a rookie
what do I do?
 
I think there's a google API for tensorflow
but you need an account
 
7:29 PM
@dmckee---ex-moderatorkitten may I suggest that you add a link to your blog on your profile page(s)?
 
vzn
@Slereah lol! just want to say 1 more thing as motivation/ pitch. plz dont abandon it, treat it cavalierly or flippantly. isnt there something in future of physics worth expending energy for, even fighting for? lets continue to talk on it. think of it as once in lifetime opportunity. think the next einstein is on the horizon, and it will be on (basically) a solitonic model of atoms/ quantum mechanics. all the outlines are already there. it could just take 1 guy (or lady!) at this point...! :)
 
7:54 PM
Prepping for student labs next week and am confusing myself
Goal is to test what happens to a rubber band as temperature increases
A neat prediction being that, if you hang a mass on a rubber band and heat it up, then it should contract rather than expand
A way I was trying to test this was to place the mass on an electronic scale and attach a rubber band from above
So that the restoring force would be the actual weight less the scale weight
My intuition was: rubber band heats up (using a hairdryer), so it tries to contract (becomes stiffer). Hence the restoring force goes up and the scale weight would go down
But I tried it, and as best I can tell the scale weight -increases-
Not much, but it’s consistent
So I am confused.
I’m guessing it’s explained by this answer: physics.stackexchange.com/a/449049/55641
With elastomers being less stiff at higher temperatures but nevertheless contracting as temperature increases
 
Sounds like you'd need to choose the right kind of rubber band material to observe what you want to observe
 
8:13 PM
Probably
I suspect my specific confusion may arise from conflating a constant force setup with a constant length setup
 
there's a lot on youtube
you could "flip the lab" by having the students first watch the experiment before coming in...
 
8:51 PM
@NovaliumCompany You mean like colab?
 
@skullpatrol what’s hilarious about that: I’m at the UMN
That said: I’m seeming to get the opposite behavior
The most obvious difference is the power source: he uses a lamp, whereas I’m using a hair dryer
The prof running the course also commented that rubber bands can be low quality
The other thing I’m noticing is that, if I don’t turn on the lamp, I still see a rise in apparent weight
 
yup, poylmer chemistry is complicated
 
@Semiclassical You should make yourself look really disheveled. Come into class acting really eccentric, and use this lab to prove that science is a lie and that you've seen through it finally.
 
I would suggest contacting him.
 
9:06 PM
So the longer the rubber band is under load, the less stiff it becomes
Which, admittedly, would seem the correct trend if it’s going to change over time
 
polymer*
 
Looks like the last trend becomes a lot slower when the rubber band isn’t stretched as far
 
how many students are in each lab session?
 
About 15
Just tried it using an incandescent bulb instead, and same result
That still leaves the rubber band itself
 
how much weight are you using?
 
9:20 PM
210 grams of mass, so a bit less than he was. I probably do have 250 gram masses around
Also, my lamp is considerably less powerful than his
So my effect is a lot slower
 
18 mins ago, by skullpatrol
I would suggest contacting him.
 
The only bit I’m not sure about really is the quality of my rubber bands
 
You can teach your students another life lesson this way: Rubber quality is important!
 
explaining how those differences in quality affect the results would not be easy
 
9:42 PM
Quite
 

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