The h Bar

7:46 AM

@vzn All that I knew is we need as much fake news, fake entities and etc. we need as November 2020 approaches. The only way to "break the tyranny of the laws of physics and human nature" is to cause a collective global uprising, so that in the postmodern notion, everything from words to language to comprehension will be completely upheaval, changing human nature and hopefully fixing us humans for the better

The holy grail of reality is to make the universe to confuse it with fantasy, that way, new solutions will open up

actually no, too much fake news and Trump will be elected again, and that is no good

thus forgot what I said

Speaking about global politics, I think the north korea stuff is heading to the correct direction

But I seriously doubt about the relation between Trump and Kim

Secret

8:03 AM

Also fail (see eye like entity at arrow)

Jake Rose

11:00 AM

Why is the first term in the kinetic energy wrong in this situation?

Is it due to the fact that, a the origin changes so really I shouldn’t use a general result for the velocity in plane polars. And then to why the second term still works is that at each point the velocity is completely tangential, as if it was a fixed pendulum, thus only the second term is required (which takes into account the extending of the rope by the $\rho =l + a\theta$

vzn

4:02 PM

@Secret wild/ contrarian/ counternarrative/ cosmic pov and therefore found it intriguing, and then you immediately cast it away lol ... but do think youre onto something about a theme of the artificial, the simulation, reality vs fantasy, very deep threads/ archetypes in human consciousness being brought to some kind of climax in our time(s) it would seem...

@Secret reminds me of "uncanny valley" concept from robotics increasingly being applied to general ML field. yes that image has some glitches. the skin of her forehead blends into the lower left sunglasses. lower left and elsewhere looks a little like a painting. spot you pointed out does not looks so anomalous to me it looks like gray hair. its possible the algorithm has more trouble with nonhuman objects/ props like the sunglasses. but isnt it remarkable how effective they are?

woman also has earing + scarf... left shoulder fold looks strange... right shoulder missing? etc...! but notice how these dont pop out on initial inspection they are almost subliminal. its as if the algorithm is even reverse-engineering human perception of faces. possibly thats exactly what its doing...

vzn

4:16 PM

@NovaliumCompany some deep questions are you self studying philosophy? wikipedia has decent articles on all (3) items you mention why dont you start there & get back to us...

Secret

4:27 PM

@vzn Well tbh, I will thought those are photos of real people (because so many of them actually have similar faces) and will not think they are AI generated without the name of the link give it off. Compared to what I knew about AI in this direction back in 2010, it seems we have advanced a lot in the realism of the generated images

I do really hope that will happen, but I am not sure if everything can align enough at a global scale for that to be possible
Even though now I have reached out to the political sector, me and my political allies (which spans across the political spectrum) are as clueless as I am on that goal because there is just too much uncertainty

In fact, given the uncertainty itself, it is not even clear what exactly I want. I had a feeling I am actually letting the unknown to decide its own path and gamble that it will be to humanity's favour

But then, on a more scientific perspective, few have ever utilize the unknown in its pristine form, a form without it being describable by words and language, or being made clear on its specifics

John Rennie

5:29 PM

I'm off to eat some cake (just a bit). I shall see you all tomorrow.

Rudi_Birnbaum

5:46 PM

Hello all!

I thought about a very simple example for a QM perturbation theor. calculation. I thougt about the particle in the box say of length $l$ and the perturbationally extending the box to $l+h$ with a small $h$.

Then you have the trouble how to express the new new potential as a sum of the old and some additional potential. I thought about $V'(x) = V(\alpha x)$ with $\alpha=\frac{l}{l+h}$ and then using a linear approximation.

For that I need the derivative of something like $\infty H(x)$ ... since the potential is as far as I know an infinitely high step function. Then I get stuck.

any ideas?

Oh now I see I don't need that. Its even simpler ...

Thanks

vzn

6:13 PM

@Secret "terra incognita"... (not sure what you mean but thats not unusual lol)

Secret

Imagine being able to use the next scientific breakthrough... without ever able to give a name to it, nor knowing it exists

vzn

@Secret your musings sometimes remind me of tarot cards/ astrology/ nostradamus...

Secret

Or if you want something more concrete:

unsw.adfa.edu.au/conferences/sites/conferences/files/uploads/…

You produce an environment where unknown unknown and unknown knowns are likely to happen, and the constraints in that environment have a high chance to guide these unknown factors to your advantage

vzn

interesting reminds me of a really great book am reading right now bet you/ some others in here would like it The Sceptical Optimist: Why Technology Isn't the Answer to Everything / Agar amazon.com/Sceptical-Optimist-Technology-Answer-Everything/dp/…

Secret

This is theoretically possible because most phenomenon are bound by physical laws and it takes certain critical points to be passed before emergence can occur in a complex system

Thus a suitably designed constraint can potentially force the surprises themselves towards a certain desired state, even though we may not resolve what exactly those factors are

that is what I meant by utilising unknowns in its pristine form

vzn

6:23 PM

@Secret that weird mix of high tech + visionary + creepy at the same time. ML + military deeply unsettling. reminds me of protests in amazon and now microsoft. one might ask simply "how is this different than skynet" :o :P o_O 'We did not sign up to develop weapons': Hundreds of Microsoft workers protest $480m HoloLens reality headset deal with the U.S. military dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6745073/…

Secret

I think the millitary stuff will get messy, especially US is developing low yield nuclear bombs now as it gets more tension with russia

The prospect of a nuclear MAD is more likely because low yield nuclear bombs lowers the deterance of using them

vzn

@Secret !!! p10 WWWIII? :o o_O

Secret

nah, that picture is just a local shore region, not the whole globe

btw, the slides are actually from a seminar in uni a few weeks ago

vzn

@Secret lol curvature of earth manifest / thats what you think :P

Secret

I don't see why Australia will have to go to WWIII

and frankly even if WWIII do happen, we average joes cannot do much to stop it

vzn

6:36 PM

@Secret think WWWIII can start anywhere... that is further reinforced by the 2 prior world war histories. australia is interconnected to US in ways that arent fully openly discussed. eg surveillance/ "5 eyes" etc, and any country that wants the worlds best/ cutting edge military tech is intrinsically/ tightly connected to warfare & future wars. aka arms race/ MAD etc... its all just "wartoys" until the nukes get triggered o_O

Secret

What I am suspecting, however, is that WWIII, China, US, Russia will be the important players

vzn

@Secret ofc. but more to the story, prior world wars are started by the big powers but then suck in smaller powers in the 2-3 opposing alignments etc.

Secret

and there are many regions on the planet being identified as where it will spark, with the asia pacific being the most high risk region followed by the middle east

vzn

@Secret "wil spark"... am not fatalistic about it myself, think it can be averted, but see signs everywhere.

Secret

Honestly, I am not worried if WWIII happened. Throughout this entire life of mine I already knew who are dear to me. I have no regrets even if tomorrow we all died in a nuclear blast

For now, just keep up to date with then news and see how things goes

vzn

6:48 PM

← definitely more than regrets idea of nuclear blast anywhere while alive, if quickly incinerated dont know what will happen to those feelings, also quite aware that slow agonizing scenarios are not ruled out either o_O :P

user8718165

7:38 PM

Can somebody please answer my question?

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Q: Why does a charge moving parallel to the direction of magnetic field experience no force at all?

I can do the math using Lorentz force equation and it turns out that the angle is $0$. I understand that the magnetic field lines of force generated by the charge will be circular and perpendicular to the the those of the uniform magnetic field at all times. But I don't get how will those field l...

Nameless

8:03 PM

So I've been gone a while to explore a few concepts and discuss thoroughly with people in the real world (IRL) for a while. Here is what I've learned thus far . . . .

. . . . hang on

Test

ok cows is back online

So here is what I've learned

Putting aside human differences, it's generally hard to communicate

It turns out that even the most straightforward things have a ton of ways of being expressed and some languages carry more weight that others

So there is this particular idea I started by listening to (learning without much to say) then attempting to talk about (asking seemingly silly questions II ) to seemingly understanding (at least that's what I think when I run through the problem in my language)

I have had this simple Hamiltonian keep me up at night, consume me and question the meaning of existence

Then I learned about the motivation for studying it.

I have watched and listened to the party I have been trying to learn from crank out the implications of this H and have done some implication of this myself.

In my head all is well( as of this moment) and I'm not sure what the meaning of it all is. H is specifiable, and the traditional route meant to probe its measurable implications is trivial to state and only medially tough to execute. I choose not to because I've been dissuaded based on the power of the more modern approach

I have just cranked out the calculation on paper mostly because I wanted to look back at my soul and prove a point to my mind's heart

Now what?

I did said computation first by merely stating the result and then following up with a proof.

However I feel a sadness, I feel like I lost something

Physics Meta

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Q: Is it necessary to use heavy maths and math Jax?

Is use of high knowledge of maths in physics and heavy use of MathJax necessary to ask any questions, what if my question do not use heavy maths and do not sound complicatedly interesting like "Quantum Bayesianism", "Finding angular momentum of an electron", "Using 'this' Lagrangian to evaluate '...

discussion questions mathjax

cows

8:19 PM

The new and old calculations are in the cloud now.

I need to meet more humans

I want to talk about food, dance, music, and culture.

I want to talk about art and make jokes, and walk and jump in the streets and make meaningless gestures fully free and boundless. I want to laugh and obsess about anything on anyday

It turns out that communication, speech and human capacity to reason spontaneously about simple things is the most amazing thing I had never appreciated before

I want to say more but this is just how I feel right now

It's all simple and seemingly obvious or may be I'm just too stupid

What's next?

. . . . .

building or refining ?

or both

I don't feel like hitting the cloud again today

I miss this chat. It was very human, more human

than . . . . some IRL encounters

may be this allows the option to perlin in human aspects .

I think I want to go back to a time when 90 percent of my friends were girls

that was fun

what is the deal with H and it's implications

If everyone does it why write ? Hmm may be I should ask about this

It turns out another thing I discovered was that

. . . . .

I can't understand textbooks very well. It's much easier for me to pick a project and then learn from it than trying to read a book. For one the pronunciation of things and practical implementation of ideas is useless without a party with knowledge passed down from someone descended from the idea originator

At any rate, I learn by doing . . .

Others learn differently

I have a strong ability to ignore "noise" (This is probably foremost)

The big fat giant question now is . . . so what? You know some simple things about H

so what

. . .

do you do H_1, H_2 based off H and repeat process? Do you build or code? Do you just eat and dace?

I'm going to take a few days off and not think about any physics or math

May be 2 weeks , and rethink things, purpose, meaning, life, culture and humans

It's time for me to embrace modern methods, techniques , code and so forth and move into 2019 with everyone else

but communicate with humans (talk about art, food, dance, etc and eat live, laugh and all of that)

I'm also going to launch a startup

been wanting to do this for a while

I think this is the right year for that

cows

9:07 PM

So yeah, taking a 2 week break from thinking about physics related things

Will be happy if anyone on here randomly pings me about anything else lol

Emilio Pisanty

10:34 PM

Preserving this comment thread here for future reference

-1, this answer is wrong on numerous counts. When a mechanical clock goes slower it's because the cogs go slower. That might be because the pendulum is going slower, but isn't because some unseen ju-ju is going slower. It's the same for optical clocks. An optical clock goes slower when its lower because light goes slower when its lower. See my answer here for more information. — John Duffield Feb 25 '17 at 18:55

@JohnDuffield Your comment is wrong on numerous counts; however, since you don't even attempt to offer any substance, it's pretty pointless to discuss further. — Emilio Pisanty Feb 25 '17 at 20:45

My comment is not wrong, the substance is in my answer here. The speed of light is not constant. We define the second as 9,192,631,770 periods of microwave radiation, light in the wider sense. When the light goes slower the second is bigger. The metre doesn't change because the slower light and the bigger second cancel each other out. All electrons are not suddenly 10% lighter, and there is no magical mysterious thing called time going slower. Read my references. — John Duffield Feb 26 '17 at 10:23

... so now it can hopefully be nuked.

though I guess that that would kill the +5 score on the middle comment.

cows

10:48 PM

Grabbing a mocha nearby

I think I might do something a little different tonight. Might be coding a portion of an idea.

Right now I just feel like hanging out and walking around with my mocha

I think I'm going to create a small package to automate these kinds of calculations. I'm not sure what language to code it in.

I think I want to spend the next two weeks to write create a small language.

I don't know how people just compute on other platforms and use ideas from others without feeling sad.

This is probably the hardest part.

That older people have done this all and I am reduced to implementing or extending if I get lucky.

It kills a part of my being.

I can lay no claim but implementation claims to all I have tried and done thus far. It's defeating

Let me just mocha and walk for now. May be even work on a small language so that I don't just use everything from all over like I made or invented or discovered it just to implement things that are trivial in the eyes of many.

Actually I will take my laptop out somewhere tonight and work out of there or something

cows

11:19 PM

Just bumped into me cousin walking . . . Can't even have that alone time lol

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