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hi @DanielSank and @EmilioPisanty
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@KyleKanos Hey
 
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06:06
Morning.
I've always wondered, how people like Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, Elon Musk and more... come up with those genius business ideas? The most fundamental, simple and essential business ideas that they came up with are so hard to spot.
Were they lucky to get exposed to the right stimulus that will lead them to those simple but genius ideas?
I'm sitting here trying to come up with an idea, but I think it's better if I just expose myself to diverse stimulus.
 
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11:28
> It is only the clearest of minds that are the first to think of something which once stated is clear to everyone.
Hi all, I have a complex vector field on R^3 with divergence free real part and curl free imaginary part. I wonder if there is a special term for that and if this might ring a bell with anyone here?
 
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\o @dmckee
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@skullpetrol okayy... didn't really get it but fine. What am I supposed to do, not learn anything and have my mind empty and "clear"?
@NovaliumCompany I believe "the clearest of minds" means the clearest of thinkers in that quote.
13:13
able to think clearly
Still makes no sense
which part?
when you are confused; things are unclear, right?
13:35
@NovaliumCompany disciplined thinking that is clear, rational, open-minded, and informed by evidence
as opposed to undisciplined thinking that is unclear, irrational, closed-minded, and not informed by evidence
 
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15:02
that's brilliant
that's going to be remarkably useful on this site
I can think of several threads that went down that way
Oct 19 at 16:53, by ACuriousMind
The recent xkcd has potential to be cited many times on this site in the future...
You're late ;)
:-)
Welcome @AntonioJPan
@skillpatrol that was good
15:18
thnx
@ACuriousMind tbh I mostly wanted to have the link where I can find it 😛
So, to that effect: "perpetual motion"
@EmilioPisanty what do you think of the quotation that I was trying to explain to Novalium?
> It is only the clearest of minds that are the first to think of something which once stated is clear to everyone.
16:14
@skillpatrol "simple" and "easy" are, at best, orthogonal dimensions
they probably have a negative correlation
@EmilioPisanty true, the quotation is an oversimplification
no, what I mean is that young students often get very frustrated by the contrast between the arguments that they're able to produce and the (much simpler) arguments produced by professors and textbooks
"if it's so simple it must be easy, and I must be stupid because I cannot write think like that"
which is, as it turns out, bunk
the fact that those arguments are simple is precisely the reason why they're hard to produce
"simple" and "easy" are at best independent descriptors, but for anything meaningful, it's much more likely that being simple makes it harder, not easier
though, that said
@NovaliumCompany if you think those guys' business ideas are simple, you really don't understand what makes them work
for one
for another, it's extremely hard to understate the role of selection bias in getting you to care about those guys instead of the million other people who had "simple" ideas but who weren't as lucky in their path forward with said ideas
16:32
@EmilioPisanty that, I believe, is a part of the humbling experience of trying to understand
@skillpatrol to the extent that that implies that the associated frustration and humiliation are somehow intrinsic to the process of understanding any given subject, I disagree
it is a belief based only on personal experience
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Q: Where do I ask non-mainstream physics questions?

CuriousMind9Where do I ask non-mainstream physics questions? For instance, a question that links the human mind, physics, neuroscience & perhaps mathematics like- According to physics, do our visual thoughts (possibly others) appear to be not real because they occupy physically inaccessible higher dimension...

> An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made, in a narrow field.
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@EmilioPisanty They are not simple, but obvious, or at least seem obvious after you spot them.
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Q: Why is this question on hold?

CuriousMind9If gravity is a fictitious force, whats its real force counterpart? Why this question is on hold? I tried to ask the same question in 3 ways!(not including the title) And some people have put it on hold. I don't understand why its difficult for them to understand what I am asking. I don't think...

This is why the name "fictitious force" isn't great...
Good morning/afternoon/night for everyone!

Hmm.. the Necromancer badge, you earn just for answering a 60 day (with five or more points) old question, or you have to answer a 60 day old question with your answer been received five points?
18:04
@M.N.Raia the score threshold is on the (i.e. your) answer, not the question
you can see previous awarded badges on the badge page, physics.stackexchange.com/help/badges/44/necromancer
there's at least a few recently-awarded Necromancer badges with questions at score <5
seem to be the lowest question scores for Necromancer badges on this site
both at score zero for the question
no, wait, that's complete bunk
Steve Byrnes' Necromancer badge here physics.stackexchange.com/help/badges/44/… for his answer to the (truly terrible) question "Do we need Maxwell's Equations since they fail to account for an experimental fact at least in one occasion?", currently at score -26, is the winner
See this SEDE query for the full results
> Ohanian's book in general gets everything wrong. Here is a complete list of Einstein's mistakes (I put an expanded version of this on Wikipedia years ago, but it slowly got reworded, watered down, and moved. That gradual process, of course, was the work of Satan)
(from that list)
boy, this site has had some idiosyncratic writers posting here over the years, that's for sure
though I reckon even relative old-timers like @rob didn't see these things go down in person =P ;-)
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@EmilioPisanty I like when you give infodumps from SEDE queries in the chat. It's usually pretty interesting, and I never think to dig through these things myself.
@JMac ;-)
it's quite easy once you get over the initial hill of getting comfortable with SQL
(or, in my case, once you get over the initial hill of digging up the SQL that you learned in high-school five ten fifteen seventeen years ago)
I've made one or two for myself, but yeah I know nothing really about SQL. I could probably figure it out, but I'm not well versed in much coding in general.
yeah, that's the difference between five minutes and an hour writing a query
it's definitely not worth an hour
but these kind of digs are well worth five minuts
yeah, my threshold is usually about 5 minutes. For me, it's basically googling if I can find a similar query that is easy to make work for myself. If it's nothing overly specific, that often does the trick. If not, giving up usually works out okay :P
 
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@Loong OP has now deleted the example post they mention there
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@EmilioPisanty I have a question. I'm not entirely sure what area you are knowledgeable in quite yet. So I'm hoping you'll be able to help me with this. Just one second.
@EmilioPisanty I heated a neodymium magnet past it's curie temperature. To ensure no magnetic field was maintained in the magnet. Many magnet websites claim that heating neodymium magnets past the curie temperature would permanently damage the magnet. Or at least this type of magnet.
@EmilioPisanty I tested the magnet for residual magnetic flux. And as expected there was only outside magnetic flux from the earth. So I then let it cool down in room tenperature until it was entirely cooled down. It cooled down surprisingly slow.
@EmilioPisanty I then heated it up way past it's curie point and till I could get it glowing red. But keeping it from melting. That transition point on these types it magnets happens very very fast. Then as it was red hot I set it on an electromagnet powered by AC. (Transformer from a microwave)
@EmilioPisanty I turned it on for 1 second intervals 3 times with a 1 second pause between each interval. Once I turned it on 3 times I then turned the power off. Then I took water with ice in it that had cooled down to 33 degrees Fahrenheit. And dumped it on the magnet to cool it down rapidly.
@EmilioPisanty Ok last part. I then measured the magnetic flux on the edges of the magnet where the magnetic flux is the highest. It read 8,650 gauss. It actually was more than when the magnet wasnt demagnetized. When the magnet was magnetized before from the factory it read 5,600. (This nunber is rounded up, was very close)
@EmilioPisanty Here's my question: How did the magnet gain this much magnetic flux? Or did the manufacturer not saturate the magnet all of the way?
@ScientistSmithYT no idea.
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@EmilioPisanty Ok, do you know who would know? Thanks for being honest. I appreciate that. :)

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