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12:02 AM
@s.patroller The second footnote is kind of sloppy.
But quite typical
It's trying to imply the IAT test scores have a correlation with how one behaves with people varying over the existing races or genders. There's no definite data on that.
(i.e, it's entirely possible that it's completely irrelevant as part of a blogpost on part of the community being unwelcoming to people of a specific racial group or gender)
 
 
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4:45 AM
@BalarkaSen My thesis now contains a proof of the Hodge theorem...because why not
@BalarkaSen Unfortunately I need to nuke the problem with some Big Theorems, though I do think I could avoid FT.
So it's probably not worth it
 
5:20 AM
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A: Why do electrons in an atom occupy only the stationary states?

George XuDepending on specific situations, I can think of two independent answers to the question "why we mostly only care about stationary states": decoherence by photon interaction (I won't focus on this aspect); all (effectively nondegenerate) systems becomes (improper) ensembles of stationary states...

Good answer
 
 
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6:31 AM
@s.patroller Good
 
7:20 AM
I'd go on the sci fi stack exchange more but almost everything is about Star Wars and Harry Potter
 
@Slereah agreed. I only look at the story id questions on the SFSE. It's a good way to discover interesting books.
 
7:32 AM
@BalarkaSen is $\mathbb{N}$ a manifold
$0$-dimensional manifold with $\aleph_0$ connected components
 
7:45 AM
@bolbteppa Wait is that actually true
I never realized that
 
Hey @DanielSank you once said that you might be able to answer this one
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Q: How can one recover the classical frequency-modulation Bessel sidebands from a quantum emitter in a harmonic well?

Emilio PisantyConsider an atom that emits at frequency $\omega_0$ that's located at a position $x$ that moves under the influence of a harmonic oscillator at frequency $\nu$. In both classical and quantum physics, the Doppler shift induced by the motion on the emitted radiation causes the appearance of sideban...

 
nice tribute at the end
 
Yeah, that was a damn tragedy =/
 
I don't think I've ever seen that on a question +1
 
8:07 AM
@s.patroller well, he died after I left London (he went to the hospital with a headache and got diagnosed with a brain tumor) and I couldn't make it to the memorial service. So I really needed to say something.
@DanielSank also several terrible answers there =/
 
 
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9:41 AM
@JohnRennie on the other hand, when it is warranted, it's a whole other story.
 
10:19 AM
@SirCumference is what true?
 
 
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12:05 PM
@Slereah Correct
@0celo7 Nice
 
12:16 PM
no more "hi chat"? @Semiclassical :P
 
Greetings talking room
 
oh yeah, that was for the math room...
wait a minute for this room:
24 messages found
yet, for the math room:
1260 messages found?
 
fun fact chat means cat in french
 
what does cat mean in french?
 
nothing
though it did mean "cat" in old french
oh wait
apparently "cat" can also be a type of tree in french
Khat or qat (Catha edulis, qat from Arabic: القات‎) is a flowering plant native to the Horn of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Khat contains the alkaloid cathinone, an amphetamine-like stimulant, which is said to cause excitement, loss of appetite, and euphoria. Among communities from the areas where the plant is native, khat chewing has a history as a social custom dating back thousands of years analogous to the use of coca leaves in South America and betel nut in Asia. The World Health Organization (WHO) classified it in 1980 as a drug of abuse that can produce psychological dependence, although...
more of a plant apparently
 
12:30 PM
A dark horse is a little-known person or thing that emerges to prominence, especially in a competition of some sort, or a contestant that seems unlikely to succeed. == Origin == The term began as horse racing parlance for a race horse that is unknown to gamblers and thus difficult to place betting odds on. The first known mention of the concept is in Benjamin Disraeli's novel The Young Duke (1831). Disraeli's protagonist, the Duke of St. James, attends a horse race with a surprise finish: "A dark horse which had never been thought of, and which the careless St. James had never even observed in...
Happens back in my 3rd year undergrad and also my honours year
Where it is the final professor that I talked to among the list of candidates supervisor then become my supervisor
Actually, I think it also happened in my PhD supervisor also...
 
@Slereah mmm amphetamines
 
I'd like some cat please
 
@BalarkaSen Basically I figured out how to get the Hodge theorem for a large class of weakly elliptic operators with rough coefficients
 
$$\huge{القات}$$
This is actually shaped like a cat
 
this dog is asking for some cats
 
12:34 PM
@BalarkaSen but the proof is so involved at this point that Warner is probably more readable, I dunno
 
who you calling a dog
 
would you prefer dawg
 
dogs are pods
 
Hey, could I get some help in here on making a question more specific befor I post it, or would that be something to put on physics meta instead?
 
@0celo7 Rip
 
12:35 PM
@Rithaniel Roll those dice
 
@BalarkaSen I can make it shorter because the Laplacian on forms is very strongly elliptic. I might add that as a remark.
Exercise for the reader
 
I ain't reading a site with ASCII math
 
Fair enough. The question as it currently stands is (paraphrasing, as I'm here via phone): Suppose a civilization persisted well into the later years of the lifespan of the universe, how might it need to develop/how could it survive?
 
@BalarkaSen And what I prove is slightly different and not really comparable to what Warner does!
 
12:38 PM
urs schreiber commented below
 
So it's probably worth it.
 
run in the opposite direction asap
 
@Rithaniel not really physics-related
maybe ask the worldbuilding Stack Exchange instead
 
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of
 
@BalarkaSen I get Hodge for bounded measurable coefficients when the operator is strongly elliptic, and for uniformly continuous ones when it's weakly elliptic
Also my method lets me capture some boundary behavior, though Hodge-Morrey might be out of my reach
 
12:40 PM
Worldbuilding is not a very welcoming community, from my experience.
 
@0celo7 I would have had a more coherent look at your schtick if I wasn't super busy.
 
@Rithaniel this whole network is becoming a very unwelcoming place
 
They are far too liberal with closure of questions (because they don't like opinion based questions, which I find odd as worldbuilding is all about creative writing.)
 
with "Be nice" shoved down our throat!
 
I say build a wall on PSE
 
12:42 PM
@s.patroller deduced from self-executing a few IAT tests
 
I don't know about the network as a whole, my experience is fairly limited.
 
flayless lagic
 
@BalarkaSen am i wrong about the "Be nice" policy?
 
The SE is no match against The Magic, however (Example of Worldbuilding statement)
 
you can't force people to "be nice"
 
12:45 PM
I don't understand your statement about the Be Nice policy. It's explicitly about regulating unwelcoming and rude behavior, all it's flaws notwithstanding.
 
Though, what you say about "being nice" being forced upon you, it sounds like the network is making itself less, welcoming by trying to make itself more welcoming.
(As someone who knows nothing about this policy, of course)
 
@BalarkaSen fuck, Morrey calls the boundary of the region $b$ by $b\mathfrak b$
 
@0celo7 what
 
$$\mathfrak{\huge{b}}$$
 
what kind of dumbass notation is this
 
12:47 PM
I wouldn't say it's being forced upon us. It's, like, the general set of guidelines for having any civilized discussions whatsoever with any other person; the guidelines are written down explicitly because anonymity over the internet is ideal for breaking the boundaries of any civil dialogue.
 
I say let's get the pitchforks
 
The flaw is just that it's being stretched indefinitely to censor non-offensive comments
$\pitchfork$
 
I break civil norms all the time in real life too
 
@0celo7 As Serge Lang would have said, "Your notation sucks"
 
Because they are so terribly inefficient
 
12:49 PM
$$\Huge{♆}$$
 
whoa
 
$$\Huge{♆^{\Huge{♆^{\Huge{♆^{\Huge{♆^{\Huge{♆}}}}}}}}}$$
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@s.patroller Lol
 
$$\Huge{😈♆}$$
its me
 
12:52 PM
Ok I gotta go
 
$\newcommand\VHUGE{} $
 
smell ya later
 
$\VHUGE{♆}$
 
Jesus just read the mathjax documentation
 
12:55 PM
looking up...
 
1:14 PM
looking down...
 
2:00 PM
Stop.
 
please?
:-)
 
2:24 PM
@BernardoMeurer @BalarkaSen Post Malone new album
 
2:49 PM
In wave optics, why is angle of reflection = angle of incidence?
 
first, the reflected and incident have the same wavevector $k=\omega/v$ where $\omega$ is the frequency and $v=c/n$ is the speed of the wave on the reflected side
I'm writing the wavevector as just $k$, but of course it's really $\vec{k}=(k_x,k_y)$ with $k$ being the magnitude
 
So what exactly is multilinear algebra, and does it have to do with tensors?
 
the statement that angle of reflection = angle of incidence then amounts to the claim that, upon reflection, the only component of the incident wavevector that can possibly change is the one perpendicular to the surface
the component parallel to the surface shouldn't change
 
@Semiclassical what is wave vector :/ ?
 
wave optics concept. if you're not familiar with it, then this is a bad route to go down
 
2:57 PM
Okay, I'll learn that and then ask about this.
 
one thing to keep in mind is that, if you stay within geometric optics, then that angle rule isn't something you derive so much it's something which is taken as a starting point
you can derive it within wave mechanics, in which case it can be understood as a statement about how waves behave at an interface
and it pops out of the math in that case rather nicely
 
 
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4:07 PM
ughhhh debugging code takes forever
so tedious
 
4:21 PM
oh god libgen is down
the world has ended
prepare for the reaping
 
@0celo7 check disc
 
what's libgen
 
@Slereah Now, now. There are also a fair number of questions on the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and the Battlestar reboot, and Star Trek.
 
@dmckee boo
 
4:30 PM
@enumaris it's a book pirating website that's fast and reliable
 
More seriously, of course the big franchises dominate the space in numbers (and in voting), but there is a pretty deep pool of knowledge on the broader fields.
 
@0celo7 did you try ALL MIRRORS
 
You just have to initiate the conversation.
 
I see
 
The thing that chaps my hides is that the people who have the tunnel vision on those few big properties don't recognize that it is a problem: they have no clue how broad and rich the field is.
 
vzn
4:36 PM
lol sign of a hardcore geek: intense emotions about scifi
 
::bows with a flourish::
 
@vzn sign of a physics phd: intense emotions about QM/GR
(On that note, along with the presentation I got a chance yesterday to be at a lunch/conversation with Bush and afterwards had some time for one-on-one talk. So that was neat)
 
vzn
has several longtime wild/ haunting ideas for scifi worlds/ screenplay(s)/ stories
 
(Not going to want to talk about that in any detail right now...need to write write write)
 
::Is currently thinking abut spacetimelessness while reading a ferroelectrics journal article::
 
vzn
4:40 PM
@Semiclassical congratulations youre one of the few, the proud now... cant wait to hear juicy details... loosely related, have wild idea for a classical bell experiment, was looking up parts last night, found a $25 polarizing beam splitter, looking at calcite crystals too etc o_O
2 days ago, by Semiclassical
plus I'm not sure whether the experiments in that vein have been successful in replicating the features of Bell's inequality.
 
swarms
1000 of them
(and no bug spray)
 
vzn
@Semiclassical luv haunting band freaky name/ lyrics have played several of their songs in Rock Band :)
 
in Mathematics, 9 mins ago, by Bernstein
thank you , please vote for this question
Nope, too generic
 
@vzn now i've got 'black hole sun' in my head
which isn't a bad thing, mind
@vzn eh, I don't think I"m among the few to hear it---he's given this talk at a bunch of places. (The relative few who take it sorta seriously, perhaps)
 
vzn
@Semiclassical lol think of it as more than a theory--- a vision of the future™
 
4:59 PM
:/
I think you're overselling both what one should expect of it and what Bush himself would expect
on the one hand, Bush was very much of the opinion/suspicion that the origin of the seeming weirdness of QM arises from a yet-undiscovered fast time scale for the hydrodynamics. (I remain dubious on this option)
on the other hand, I did not at all get the impression that this would 'revolutionize' what we can do with QM
 
vzn
@Semiclassical plank didnt (initially) anticipate a revolution either. bush is (too?) modest. think he doesnt realize/ consider much the longterm implications.
 
An aside: There's an old story in statistics that goes like this. Back in WWII, lots of Allied bombers were getting shot down. To address this, they wanted to add more armor to the planes. But they couldn't add a lot, since this would unduly weigh them down. So they needed to decide where to put the armor.
Now, the immediate inclination would be to look at the planes that had come back and where they'd been shot to hell
And therefore to put the armor there. That's a natural idea, but it's a bad one
 
vzn
read catch22 by heller in high school english class, thought it brilliant/ very edgy/ subversive
 
It was based on sampling the planes that came back, not the ones who didn't come back. For the ones who did come back, the places where they'd been shot were evidently not fatal.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical great analogy luv it! reminds me of bell experiments! o_O
 
5:08 PM
The lesson being: Judging the probability of success of a given endeavor based solely on who succeeded in such endeavors can give a very misleading impression.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical it also relates to the so-called "fair/ (un?)biased sampling loophole"... the photons that are detected are those that "succeeded" so to speak... o_O
 
For that reason, I think the supposition that Bush is in the same position as Planck is sketchy
 
@Semiclassical Did you know that the Abraham Wald, of the WWII armour tale, was Robert Wald's father?
 
He may be. But there's a lot of people who were in similar-looking positions who didn't give rise to revolutions.
 
Robert Wald the author of the (in)famous General Relativity book.
 
vzn
5:10 PM
@Semiclassical consider looking at history. plank wasnt realized to be a revolutionary scientist for probably a solid decade or more after his results were published. same with einstein. etc! "velocity" of "human awareness spread" has to be taken into acct
 
So just pointing to Planck is pretty unpersuasive to me.
We remember Planck because he succeeded.
We don't remember all of the people who failed.
@JohnRennie no, but I don't really know who Wald is either soooo
The only way to judge a scientific revolution is by the evidence it provides and the success it has had up to that point.
Hyping up what it 'could be' may be good PR but it has little scientific content.
 
@Semiclassical not a GR fan then :-)
 
vzn
@Semiclassical life is lived fwd but understood backward™
 
For that reason I think Bush's attitude was antirely appropriate.
@vzn quite. So stop trying to understand forwards :P
 
vzn
@Semiclassical calling all promising new theories "hype" is throwing out the baby with the bathwater. (too?) conservative. but you are no different than all the rest wrt that cautious attitude.
 
5:14 PM
Maybe. But calling a new theory a 'vision of the future' strikes me as hype.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical the theory will be built up by some with vision, they will win nobel prizes. some make things happen, some talk about what happened, some wonder what happened.™
 
vzn
@Semiclassical When :P
 
vzn
Yes :P
only a matter of time™ o_O
 
5:16 PM
 
vzn
plank planck oops sorry! dictionary.com/browse/plank?s=t
> 3. something to stand on or to cling to for support.
 
hmm
 
well, that does pretty well describe how you're relying on Planck :P
 
vzn
new theories are a lot like bridges...
 
burn them all?
 
vzn
5:25 PM
dont burn your bridges™ :P
 
burn only the bridges you don't need :)
 
I burn all my bridges
this way I'm safe behind my moat
 
my attitude, I guess, could be summed up as: "Ye shall judge them by their fruits."
Are there promising seeds within the hydrodynamics account? Yes, I think so.
Have they borne fruit yet? No, I don't think so.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical no objections but science is (also) about (plausible) hypotheses/ conjectures/ choices and making bets...
 
By contrast, for all the weirdness of QM and QFT, they have been tremendously fruiful
Prior success is not a guarantee of future success, of course, but it's a useful heuristic nonetheless
 
vzn
5:29 PM
@Semiclassical its extremely young, and yes it has already born extremely substantial fruit in short time, but thats a subjective call (ofc it helps to be well informed/ objective to make them). revolutions initially are entirely subjective, and they grow increasingly objective over time.
 
In particular, from QED we've been able to confirm the anomalous magnetic moment down to 10 order of magnitude
that seems like it should set some pretty strong constraints on how well we understand QM in that regime
 
vzn
@Semiclassical predict QED will be found to mesh highly with fluid/ soliton dynamics, even more than already demonstrated...
 
(Bush was indicating that he suspected stuff might be going on at the level of the Compton wavelength, but I don't buy that given how precisely we've verified the anom. magnetic moment)
 
vzn
@Semiclassical think hes right, think its already seen/ shown in the math in various/ numerous places.
 
Unless you're arguing that QED is basically hydrodynamics in disguise, I'm going to call BS
 
vzn
5:34 PM
@Semiclassical its fluid/ soliton dynamics in disguise, this is already semi understood with madelung fluid... just needs some "unification"... again on the horizon...
 
madelung is nonrelativistic QM
I mean, I see three options: 1) QED is not hydrodynamic in origin. It behaves weirdly because that's how the universe works. 2) QED is hydrodynamic in origin, and we'll be able to see observable corrections eventually. 3) QED is hydrodynamic in origin, but the corrections are impossible to observe.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical havent studied it much myself, just ran across it relatively recently, but our (currently) limited understanding shouldnt be mistaken for its limited nature so to speak...
 
The second would be the most dramatic option.
But I feel like our knowledge of precision QED experiments already places strong constraints on what we could observe for corrections.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical it seems to be a kind of frictionless fluid dynamics which predictably is not well studied/ understood to date.
 
Where do we expect to see it in the anomalous magnetic moment? We're up to 10 orders of magnitude in precision. Do we need 12? 15? 20? 30?
That's one type of statement I'd love to have seen
 
vzn
5:37 PM
@Semiclassical this shows the limitation and ultimate near futility of merely trying to add precision of decimal places to measurements. ie it will not inevitably lead to new theories...
 
most likely the underlying mathematics happen to be similar and so one theory kinda can be used to predict the other
weez
 
To me it more shows the futility of asserting the existence of subquantum physics without any knowledge of where that scale would be
I did discuss this a bit with Bush, mind, and he did say he's trying to learn more about how hydrodynamics would work vis a vis QFT. so i'm curious what will come out from that
 
vzn
@Semiclassical the "hidden scale" is accessible with existing technology.
@Semiclassical have looked into that myself a bit )( and think that one avenue may be looking at connections between soliton dynamics and feynman QED diagrams. have found some rough leads there...
 
@vzn I didn't get that impression from Bush at all. My take was that he thinks it has to be there, but he didn't know how it could be revealed
 
vzn
@enumaris exactly aka bridge
@Semiclassical (being human!) he doesnt have all the answers, it will take many with similar vision, it will take many years to fully play out, but the initial outlines are now visible/ in place.
 
5:47 PM
mmm
I forgot to eat breakfast today
getting hungry...
 
@vzn Maybe. My main problem is one which I also have with stuff like SUSY: How exactly do you falsify a subquantum scale?
It seems like you can always say "oh, it's just beyond what we've done"
but unless/until you find it...
Talk is cheap, basically.
 
vzn
@Semiclassical it will take ingenious experiments but have heard of some already being sketched out. just ran across a new idea wrt double slit experiment, have some ideas myself.
@Semiclassical yeah esp in internet chat rooms eh? :P
 
One thing I'll admit I did find interesting in his talk was the suggestion that it's easier to have compatibility with relativity in the hydrodynamics picture than in the pilot wave picture
I'm not sure I believe that, though.
Something to look into when I"m not under the thesis gun
 
vzn
@Semiclassical think relativity in a fluid was already worked out roughly with sound waves in gases maybe early 20th century and nobody is paying close attn yet... :(
 
I am planning to follow up with him a bit at some point, but grad school deadlines allow but a little consciousness
 
vzn
5:53 PM
@Semiclassical think it would be way cool if you pursued that! good/ best of luck there
 
one thing I would be curious myself about: Can you use visualizations from pilot wave theory to design better QC elements?
that's a bit pie in the sky, perhaps
 
what's ur thesis on?
 
vzn
@Semiclassical think so yes, thats already been shown with double slit, think it will continue/ advance.
 
but if it's going to be relevant for QC, I think it'll have to be in the hardware not in the software
 
vzn
@Semiclassical havent noticed QC connections yet myself but think they will arise at some pt...
 
5:55 PM
@enumaris semiclassical calculations in quantum/statistical mechanics :>
 
hmm
 
@vzn well, for the logic of QC programming I don't see much reason pilot wave would matter
 
not sure I'm too familiar with that field
 
you need stuff to be modular
 
I do everything in the cloud now
 
5:55 PM
but it does explain the username
 
lolyes
 
vzn
@Semiclassical re that theres this really great book you might like, was just reviewing it last nite...
 
@vzn I mean, it's like the difference between programming a computer and building a computer.
I don't think pilot wave thinking will help with the former, but it might have some insights for the latter.
no guarantee for that, though
 
at some point I'd like to actually read up on DeBroglie-Bohm theory
it was not covered at all in school other than a couple of passing remarks
like "oh yeah, this thing exists too"
lol
 
Take a look at Travis Norsen's stuff on scattering/spin. they're pretty good
 
5:57 PM
but what I really want
the thing that really eludes me
is a good book on QFT
 
ugh, yes
QFT is there-be-dragons territory for me
 
like clear and easy to follow, and not totally hand wavey or totally dense
I've tried a lot of diff books on it and they all just lose me after the first chapter or so
 
vzn
there are probably some QFT fans in here, maybe ACM can help with refs
 
I feel like Weinberg's book is likely to be the most complete
but it's so freaking dense
and so freaking long
lol
 
my own suspicion is that, for all people talk about philosophy of QM, they're really missing the point if they restrict it to nonrelativistic quantum theory
b/c QFT is both its own thing and is one of the most precisely tested theories in science
 
6:01 PM
QFT is weird in that it's supposed to be built on QM, but it looks so different than QM
even in the fundamental things you calculate...
 
bottom line being that there really needs to be more philosophy of QFT
if hydrodynamics were successful in making it less confusing, that'd be pretty impressive
 
in QM the fundamental thing you calculate is the wave function...in QFT it's more like the scattering matrix
 
vzn
@Semiclassical suspect relativistic vs nonrelativistic is probably largely just the QM + GR unification problem in disguise.
 
if you make the analogy with statistical field theory, it's like the partition function
 
6:02 PM
so you go into QFT expecting it to extend QM, but instead you get bogged down in feynman diagrams and calculating wick rotations and crap like that lol
 
lolyes
I know how QM works, mostly. I mostly don't know how QFT works.
 
indeed
I feel like I actually do know quite a bit of QFT, but I just never feel comfortable with it...and I'm too lazy to actually do the calculations so...
 
agreed
 
at some point I'd really like to get a good intuitive grasp of QFT and the standard model
 
well, the problem with intuition for the standard model is that it doesn't need to be intuitive for it to work :P
 
6:15 PM
well, I mean, I don't require a strong physical intuition into the model if the model itself is inherently physically unintuitive, but I would like at least a strong mathematical intuition into the model.
like at least "here are the base mathematical inputs, here's how you perform calculations, here are the outputs and roughly what they mean" in a clear and concise way
hard to explain lol
 
Anonymous
@Semiclassical Any idea how to convert a .nb file to .cdf ? Do I need to buy the entire Mathematica for that?
 
can't u just rename it
:P
 
Anonymous
@enumaris Well, I only have the free CDF player which I downloaded from the Wolfram website. Are you saying that I should save the .nb code file as .cdf and try opening it using the CDF player?
 
Anonymous
Also, any quick Mathematica tutorial that you know of? I found a basic framework of the code I needed online. Just need to modify a few things to suit my needs.
 
6:31 PM
@Blue get mathematica through your university
 
Anonymous
@0celo7 I don't think they provide Mathematica subscriptions for engineering students
 
@Blue of course they do, every engineer uses mathematica
 
Anonymous
Eh? I thought they use Matlab ;)
 
engineers are intelligent enough to use multiple programs
 
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