The h Bar

enumaris

12:52 AM

cough

ACuriousMind

::hands @enumaris a lozenge::

enumaris

thx :D

dmckee

2:01 AM

@MartianCactus It's been well over a hundred years since mathematicians starting mucking around with things that they consider more fundamental than mere arithmetic.

Slereah

8:28 AM

hello my dudes

Akash. B

@Slereah hello

Slereah

last day of work before the break

Akash. B

@Slereah for me too

last day of study before break

undefined

8:53 AM

good morning

yes, last day today. Next work day is the 14th for me :)

Slereah

woo

not a good place for a footnote

Akash. B

footnote?

undefined

the 6, I guess

Slereah

9:09 AM

yes

Slereah

9:39 AM

arxiv.org/pdf/1612.04643.pdf

mama mia

undefined

@Slereah interessting

I recently read this one arxiv.org/pdf/1612.04889.pdf

Slereah

10:17 AM

Jesus

That's a pretty bad conformal diagram

undefined

why is it bad?

Slereah

It is complex

John Rennie

Looks to me like there's a hole in your universe ...

Slereah

10:33 AM

Several, even

it needs stitching up

Slereah

10:49 AM

I'm pretty sure that's the diagram Jesus was crucified on

Avnish Kabaj

11:40 AM

Potentially flaggable

Slereah

I stand by that joke

John Rennie

12:21 PM

Agreed, just because Sam made a slightly tasteless joke that doesn't mean we should crucify him.

3

Slereah

Forgive them @JohnRennie for they know not what they did

Slereah

12:38 PM

Hey @ACuriousMind

ACuriousMind

Ahoi

Slereah

Can you describe operator-valued distributions as sequences of operator-valued functions on $\mathbb{R}^n$

ACuriousMind

12:51 PM

@Slereah For real-valued distributions it is true that every distribution has a "nascent" representation as a limit of functions. I don't know enough about the formal theory of operator-valued distributions to say whether this holds there, too

Slereah

I'm trying to define $H$ properly but since it's a distribution I'm not sure $\int dx \mathcal{H}$ makes sense

So I must ruse

So I'm guessing it's something like $$H = \lim_{n \to \infty} \int d^3x \mathcal{H}_n(x)$$

Or something similar

Also the integral is probably some projector valued measure I guess???

I dunno

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Well, it is the distribution $\mathcal{H}$ applied to the identity. Whether or not that its well-defined doesn't change if you replace $H$ by a limit, since the limit is in the sense of distributions, anyways, i.e. always taken outside of the integral.

Slereah

Well I'm assuming that things make sense here

ie the Hamiltonian density is properly renormalized first

Not worring about products of distributions for now

whole other can of worm

undefined

1:15 PM

did you guys learn matlab/latex at university?

ACuriousMind

not really. At some point you were just expected to know it :P

Slereah

I think I had like 2 classes of Matlab

undefined

ohh okay :o

Anonymous

@undefined We have some Matlab workshops every now and then. I never attended though.

Anonymous

Matlab is pretty easy to pick up

Anonymous

1:18 PM

LaTeX is hardly taught here (maybe it's taught to the PhD students...I dunno)

undefined

I have to read more about it but it looks like a programming language for me. For example the thing Slereah wrote starting with $$

Anonymous

Well, it is sort of a programming language (more of a typesetting language)

Anonymous

(Turing complete too)

ACuriousMind

You can program in it, but it's meant to be more a text description language (like html).

Anonymous

69

Q: I've heard that LaTeX is Turing complete. Are there any programs written in LaTeX?

It's possible to do interesting things with what would ordinarily be thought of as typesetting languages. For example, you can construct the Mandelbrot set using postscript. It is suggested in this MathOverflow question that LaTeX may be Turing-complete. This implies the ability to write arbitra...

undefined

1:23 PM

one time someone explained somthing to me and wrote something like this $$ and so on too. And I was very confused because I had no idea about the meaning. After thinking about it for a day I though "well, what if its latex?" and I pasted it into a latex interpreter, just to realize it was really a readable formula after interpretation

I felt meh

Anonymous

If you want to learn just enough MathJax to use Stack Exchange, this is the ultimate reference

Anonymous

You can learn it in one day

undefined

Thanks, Blue. I'll look into it :)

Anonymous

The $- symbols are just delimiters

Anonymous

Some sites use \$ instead....like the Electronics SE

undefined

1:26 PM

are you people able to read that "code" without an interpreter? I mean, is that expected?

ACuriousMind

@undefined You can make it so you see it interpreted in chat, too. See the MathJax link in the room description.

undefined

ohh

Anonymous

@undefined math.ucla.edu/~robjohn/math/mathjax.html

undefined

thats pretty useful, thanks

@Blue that link works really well, thank you :)

Slereah

0

Q: How to define the Hamiltonian properly in quantum field theory

In a rigorous fashion, how does one define the Hamiltonian of QFT as $$\hat{H}(t) = \int d^3x \hat{\mathcal{H}}(x, t)$$ For now I'm ignoring the fact that $\hat{\mathcal{H}}$ itself may be ill-defined since it involves product of distributions. Let's assume that $\hat{\mathcal{H}}$ is a properl...

quantum-field-theory operators hamiltonian

plz halp

Avnish Kabaj

1:42 PM

Differentiate it partially wrt c you should get a 0

Slereah

1:57 PM

Hm

I guess maybe I could do it as the limit $$\lim_{n \to \infty}\mathcal{H}[\phi_n]$$

With $\phi_n$ a test function of increasing support

Captain Bohemian

2:14 PM

@Blue in my elementary school, children with stutter problem would be sent to a special-education class.

Anonymous

2:29 PM

@CaptainBohemian What do they do in a special-education class?

Captain Bohemian

@Blue When I was the first grade, I didn't pronounce some characters accurately and my teacher (I hate her) found that and sent me to that special-education class one day a week, where a teacher would make 1-to-1 teaching with me. I was too native to understand what it means to send me to that kind of class that time, but people in my family told me that's a discrimination to me, so forcibly opposed to send me to there and made protestion to the school.

So I was withdrawn form that class only after going to that class several times.

maybe it's protest, not protestion.

ACuriousMind

2:47 PM

@Slereah Consider that $H$ is already undefined in classical field theory if $\mathcal{H}$ is not integrable over spacetime. So it would seem entirely consistent with the classical approach to simply assume that $\mathcal{H}$ evaluated on $1$ is well-defined, just as we assume classically that the field configuration is such that the integral does not diverge.

Slereah

Well yes, that is entirely reasonable

But I'd like to show properly that it does for specific QFTs at least

Like try that method for KG

After you read enough math you just stop trusting anything

WHAT IF 1+1 ISN'T EVEN 2

ACuriousMind

@Slereah I'm not sure you can write down the "operator-valued distribution" "concretely enough" to do this for any theory.

Slereah

Yeah I'm not quite sure what that would be really

Like if $\mathcal{H} = a^+ a$, then what is $\mathcal{H}[f]$?

Is it $a^\dagger[f] a[f]$?

I guess that bit I'll need to actually do the generalized function bit maybe

I dunno

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Sure. But then you're back to square one - what is $a[1]$?

Slereah

Well the important part isn't so much the actual form of $H$

It's more $[H, \phi]$

but then I'm not sure what that would be either

ACuriousMind

2:53 PM

In the end, I think this is just not a very useful line of thought. You're making the idea that the fields are specific operator-valued distributions the centerpiece of QFT, but the entire path integral formalism works without ever saying the words "operator-valued distribution".

Slereah

I never said I wanted to do something useful :p

If I wanted to do something useful I'd do carbon nanotubes or whatever else

ACuriousMind

In particular, since we do not know the interacting Hilbert space, your demands for rigor will always be isolated to the free theory and the few examples where we do know the interacting space

Slereah

Oh this isn't for the interacting case

I'm trying to do it 100% free right now

ACuriousMind

@Slereah But for this to be a useful (in the theoretical sense!) line fo thought, it should naturally extend to the interacting case.

Slereah

just bothers me mildly that it's the stuff everyone uses in QFT and nobody bothers to axiomatize that part

ACuriousMind

2:56 PM

I do think there is a difference between doing something just because you've never seen it done, and doing something because you know where you're going with it. The latter is good theory, the former just busywork.

Slereah

You won't get an argument for me

I'd just like to know though

I ain't getting paid for this certainly

ACuriousMind

@Slereah But no one actually uses it! :P All the meaningful computations are not done with "operator-valued distributions". They're done with path integrals, and CFT vertex algebras and whatnot, but I have never seen a derivation that actually made good use of the nature of the quantum field as a operatur-valued distribution

Slereah

Well when I say "everybody uses it" I mean the traditional QFT stuff

Where we just pretend it's all functions and hope it works out

(And don't get me started on path integrals either!)

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Yeah, the traditional pedagogy is very much unrelated to what the practitioners are doing nowadays :P

Slereah

Also the whole AQFT thing is used for like

Semiclassical gravity

ACuriousMind

3:02 PM

@Slereah But see - for path integrals, there's lots of clear attempts to axiomatize them properly, and some that succeed in low dimensions. That's because people actually use path integrals!

Slereah

Well sure, but

Do I have to only do useful things

In my free time

ACuriousMind

@Slereah And yet the most famous predictions of semiclassical gravity like Hawking radiation make no use of it at all :P

Slereah

I mean I'm not sure I've ever had an interest in an area of physics that someone would qualify as useful

ACuriousMind

@Slereah You can of course do whatever you want. I'm just suggesting that - especially if you want to attract potential supervisors - you could do something that at least a larger fraction of other theorists would consider meaningful.

Slereah

Well they don't have to know

I'm not putting that in my resume

ACuriousMind

3:05 PM

Alrighty, if it makes you happy I'll cease to pester you ;)

I have to go buy a vase, anyway

Slereah

I mean don't worry I'm also reading up on useful things

But string theory has a lot more ressources than constructive QFT

also a benefit is

Weird areas of physics

It's a lot easier to find some area to work on

Otherwise you just find out that whatever you wonder about string theory has been solved 40 years ago

It's not like some weird ass field of physics where maybe 5 people have worked on

No idea what's an actual open problem that someone can just work on on their lonesome in string theory or whatever

I mean I guess I can try picking a random Calabi-Yau manifold and look what happens on it, try to chip at the $10^{500}$ landscape thing

vzn

3:21 PM

← routinely crucified for slightly tasteless jokes o_O :( ps merry xmas everyone! :P

Anonymous

@vzn Merry Christmas :) Any plans?

Sid

Christmas is great for sleeping and whatsapp statuses. :P

Also, my results are going to be out, tomorrow. I am scared. :(

Slereah

Man why are none of the Calabi Yau examples simple

Why can't $T^6$ be one

Anonymous

@Sid ;_;

Anonymous

Bad timing for results

vzn

3:34 PM

@Blue (thx!) :) family is travelling but not with me... :'( coding up a storm as usual. did you celebrate diwali? my large banking + IT corp had a big event (indians nearly a majority at this point!)... didnt go...

Slereah

Father Diwali is coming to town

undefined

marry christmas for all of you

see you next time

Anonymous

@vzn Yes, we did celebrate Diwali.....aaaand I burnt a neighbour's curtain :P

Anonymous

The rocket misfired

Ice Inkberry

That's every block's story

Anonymous

3:35 PM

Luckily that family is still out of town...and I don't think many people noticed

Anonymous

@vzn I had an impression that Indians constitute a considerable majority in US IT firms....that confirms it :P

vzn

Anonymous

@vzn Nice...which place it that? :D

vzn

@Blue did you know blue is a synonym for unhappy in english? :P

Anonymous

@vzn Hehe, I do

vzn

3:40 PM

@Blue lol just randomly googling the title was cheap floating pond lights on pinterest but they look like diwali lotuses at a indian river to me...?

Anonymous

@vzn I guess it's one of these

Anonymous

Can't identify the river/pond though

vzn

@Blue you guys are taking over... alas sometimes race to the bottom™ without anyone realizing it, hey welcome to 21st century precariat capitalism o_O

Avnish Kabaj

They banned crackers in Delhi

vzn

@Blue very close )( but the leaves are slightly differently shaped.

Sid

3:43 PM

@AvnishKabaj A very correct decision.

vzn

@Blue lol wait you didnt tell em? o_O :o

Anonymous

Diwali causes a lot of pollution though

Anonymous

@vzn I'll them when they return I guess :P

vzn

@Blue from a lot of fires?

@Blue its the completely ethical thing to do, so ofc... at your "discretion" :P

Sid

@Blue Why? Just pretend you have no idea...

Would save you money of replacing their curtain.

vzn

3:46 PM

theres this thing in english countries called the honor system... alas it seems an increasingly dishonorable age

Anonymous

@vzn Yeah, fires and add to that the gases produced by the fire crackers. The air pollution level rises by around 5% in one day during that time

vzn

@Blue fireworks do create a lot of smoke...

Anonymous

Honestly, I like staying in my home and watching the sky lanterns instead of burning crackers

Anonymous

I just had to accompany by brother though....but I guess he'll grow out of it soon

Sid

I heard Delhi got a PM of 2000 during Diwali...

vzn

3:49 PM

@Blue so you are doing EE now? what year? btw here was some interesting QC news shared by work cohort... let me dig it up... how goes the modding over there?

Anonymous

@vzn Yeah, EE undergrad, second year now

Anonymous

@Sid Heehee ...I'm still deliberating

Avnish Kabaj

It smells like smoke when I go out to jog

Sid

@AvnishKabaj See, that's the problem with Delhi. Normally Jogging is a healthy exercise. In Delhi, it's actually harmful. You would be better off staying at your home.

Anonymous

Beijing has been able to control their pollution level...or so I heard

Sid

3:52 PM

@Blue The causes of pollution in Delhi and Beijing are far different. Delhi's pollution is significantly harder to control

Anonymous

I'd say...just ban all >10 year old vehicles and it will be significantly reduced

Anonymous

What happened to the odd-even rule? @AvnishKabaj

vzn

in theory salon, 1 min ago, by vzn

Ion-based commercial quantum computer is a first / Physicsworld

in theory salon, 1 min ago, by vzn

National Quantum Initiative Act: An Important Step for American Leadership / Amazon web services

in theory salon, 1 min ago, by vzn

Milestone Experiment Proves Quantum Communication Really Is Faster / Quanta mag

Anonymous

Chris Monroe's work? I heard of it :)

vzn

yeah hes a living legend... has done a lot of (world class) Bell entanglement experiments...

Anonymous

3:54 PM

On the other hand Ewin Tang struck QML hard

Sid

@Blue Stubble burning and Construction dust are also major factors of pollution(both of these aren't present in Beijing)

Anonymous

@vzn Indeed

vzn

@Blue maybe heard about that think have some links on that trying to remember what thats about...

Anonymous

@vzn That whole Paris group...Diamanti, Kerenedis, Laplante,...is working on quantum communication complexity now

Anonymous

It's not an easy field....I tried reading some of the communication complexity papers and those seemed to go way over my head

vzn

3:58 PM

@Blue probably have cited their stuff on my blog but not too familiar at moment...

Anonymous

(extremely mathematical)

vzn

@Blue complexity theory is one of the most advanced areas of Theoretical Computer Science these days... yes it can be very formidable/ daunting at times...

Captain Bohemian

why does hotmail change from time to time? When I used to click "reply", the recipient would be the other person I have the correspondence with (I have only had email correspondence with one single person), but now as I click "reply", the recipient becomes the immediately precedent person in the whole correspondence series. Sometimes when the person I wrote to doesn't reply me, and I click "reply", the recipient becomes myself(isn't this absurd? who writes an email to self?)

Avnish Kabaj

@Blue it was scrapped way back

Anonymous

@vzn I'm looking forward to working in the complexity theory and algorithms area in the future (along with some quantum information theory perhaps). One huge roadblock for me is that most physicists (including my current advisor) don't have a strong background in complexity theory and I don't have much people to talk to.

Avnish Kabaj

4:01 PM

Most households have 2 cars

vzn

@Blue (crawling thru bookmarks...) ah yes Tang, very impressive, budding/ future QC genius it looks like... if SA is impressed then youre golden... expect him to win award soon or see major popsci profile of him... :o quantamagazine.org/… scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3880

Captain Bohemian

@Sid I have been to Beijing in April when the dust storm prevailed and I ate a lot of sand whenever I went.

Avnish Kabaj

@Sid I can't study properly if I don't do cardio of some sort

:/

Anonymous

@vzn Yes, Tang has a very impressive profile :)

vzn

@Blue can chat with you about complexity theory anytime you like :) :P alas (leading) science can be solitary at times, dont forget there are bazillions of excellent refs, and much online...

Anonymous

4:04 PM

Cool! :D I'm currently working my way through Sipser and Nielsen & Chuang's chapter on complexity theory

Anonymous

I'll mention if I find something interesting

vzn

@Blue actually was just thinking of N&C as one of the foremost refs... Nielsen has written a lot of other interesting stuff on open science too, have cited it in here occasionally, highly recommend it... :)

Dec 18 at 11:35, by Blue

In hindsight, I think CS would have been better for me

Anonymous

Hihihi :P Yesh. I would have chosen CS if it were now.

Anonymous

I was too uninformed back then. I guess most highschool students are.

Avnish Kabaj

You took ee because you were getting a better uni?

vzn

4:09 PM

maybe you can squeeze in some CS on your major (aka "minor" in US) but have heard something like that isnt easy at indian schools.

Captain Bohemian

I only chose physics, chemistry and biology for univesity major because only they are in high school subjects.

Anonymous

@AvnishKabaj No, I had a choice to take CS at my current uni (given my rank). But I chose EE as I though it would have more "physics"....just wish someone had told me that it was the wrong kind of "physics" :P

Avnish Kabaj

Sad

Captain Bohemian

students in CS seem to be very leisurely.

Anonymous

@vzn Yes, we have some CS electives in the third year. Hopefully, it will get more interesting then. :)

Sid

4:11 PM

@vzn It depends on the uni.

vzn

@Blue lol yes "electives" kind of a funky word, glad to hear you have some wiggle room, thought somebody said they were rare at indian schools... some of my favorite classes were electives...

Anonymous

@AvnishKabaj Taking an informed decision is very important, when you're choosing your major ;)

Captain Bohemian

I used to have CS students as my roommates and they were so leisurely.

vzn

@CaptainBohemian lol just wait til they get a job, if they manage to :P (my new cohort in CS at work got thru in 3yrs working at school + job!) o_O

Captain Bohemian

@vzn well, I just saw their desks were full of recreation magazines, snacks and had a lot of clothes. And they chated leisurely most of time. My desk had only research papers and textbooks and I didn't have many clothes.

vzn

4:16 PM

@CaptainBohemian lol maybe dont be to quick to judge, maybe its a sign of work life balance™ :P ... ps not sure what clothes have to do with it...

Captain Bohemian

@vzn they were my roommates for several semesters and I had observed they kept being that way.

vzn

@CaptainBohemian what do clothes have to do with work ethic? seems like non sequitur

Anonymous

Being leisurely is fine....when you have a job in hand :P

vzn

@Blue most employers would not agree :P

Captain Bohemian

@vzn people who are busy in work have no time to shop and buy so many clothes.

vzn

4:20 PM

@CaptainBohemian oh like the kardashian effect? :P ok ... think theres not much wrong with looking stylish, quite to the contrary ;)

Captain Bohemian

they had unusually many clothes and need to bring extra storing boxes and tools to place those clothes.

vzn

@CaptainBohemian actually dont know many in CS who are into fashion. quite to the contrary see my cohort with holes in his jeans sometimes... cringe o_O

Captain Bohemian

the cubboard the school dorm offered was not enough for their clothes.

vzn

lol maybe a future in beverly hills or hollywood :P

reminds me of this story from a few yrs ago After Backlash, Computer Engineer Barbie Gets New Set Of Skills npr.org/2014/11/22/365968465/…

Captain Bohemian

they also had a lot of skin protection products.

vzn

4:26 PM

@CaptainBohemian lol are we talking about men here?!? :P

Captain Bohemian

they are women, but don't men use skin protection products?

vzn

@CaptainBohemian oh geez you left out that part, the truth is revealed :P in this case clearly/ simply their feminine nature overrode their geek nature... (+ ps thx "god(dess)" for that!) :P

ACuriousMind

@CaptainBohemian Uhh, what? Even busy people can take a day off to go shopping.

If you feel so busy that you can't make time to buy clothes, you're not "busy", you're overworked

vzn

← now wants to see pictures :P

Captain Bohemian

@ACuriousMind they had an overwhelming quantity of clothes and skin protection products.

ACuriousMind

4:35 PM

I got that. I just don't get why you think there's anything wrong with that :P

Captain Bohemian

I would be happy to have a lot of clothes but I was too poor to buy many.

enumaris

weez

Slereah

@ACuriousMind what's a useful thing to work on anyway

Like what's a string problem I can just pick up and work on

enumaris

how to tie a bowline knot?

Captain Bohemian

@vzn I think women in technology in my country don't have this problem.

Avnish Kabaj

4:45 PM

@blue I am officially informed

vzn

@CaptainBohemian what problem?

@CaptainBohemian exactly. maybe it was more a sign of "disposable income" spent tastefully. aka class...

danielunderwood

@enumaris by getting the fake ones

Anonymous

@enumaris Time for a "how to tie a tie" video :D

enumaris

:D

Anonymous

@Kentucker_Filled_Turkey Yo! Your name reminds me of Kentucky Fried Chicken. Mmmm

Blazar

4:52 PM

@CaptainBohemian Are you frpm egypt?

From*

Anonymous

And again you did something weird with your profile, I see :D

enumaris

what hat is that

Anonymous

@enumaris Rubber duck

enumaris

rubber duck on a wave?

Anonymous

Yep

enumaris

4:55 PM

thought it was just squiggles lol

Kentucker_Filled_Turkey

.g n j, n j

enumaris

I can only see up to "Turk"

is this a bug or a feature

@Kentucker_Filled_Turkey

Anonymous

@enumaris Depends on your screen size and zoom settings

Anonymous

Zoom out and you'll see more

enumaris

but now his name is Kentucker_Filled_Turk which is also funny

Anonymous

5:00 PM

So...there's a new Spiderman animated movie? The trailer sucks

enumaris

The movie is pretty good tho

Into the Spiderverse :D

Anonymous

Watched it?

enumaris

Yep

Kentucker_Filled_Turkey

']

Anonymous

@enumaris Oh nice. Might give it a try then

enumaris

5:02 PM

:D

Avnish Kabaj

@Blue whaa

I loved the trailer

The chnanges the animation style radically

It looks like a comic book

Anonymous

I guess I'm not much into the 3D animation stuff

Anonymous

Also, it didn't look too original

Avnish Kabaj

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous

I loved Homecoming though

Avnish Kabaj

5:04 PM

Wak

It was meh

No actually pretty decent

enumaris

Does the order in which you compile the files matter in compiling multiple file C++ programs...?

John Rennie

No

enumaris

IIRC The order mattered for Fortran...which is why I had to have a large makefile to figure out the dependencies and compile in the correct order...

John Rennie

@enumaris really?

enumaris

95% sure lol

I never figured out what would happen if you had a loop dependency

but I'm pretty sure I spent some time figuring out which file to compile first and which file next etc...

John Rennie

5:17 PM

Googling tells me it's true. That's bizarre.

enumaris

XD

fun times...

never going back to that again!

gets job coding exclusively in FORTRAN

regrets statement

ACuriousMind

@Slereah physics.stackexchange.com/q/351423/50583 :P

Slereah

@ACuriousMind I would guess from the smiley that it is not at all

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Yeah, I don't think there's any problem you can "just pick up". You'll always first have to learn the "basics" of the problem, which in this case usually encompasses a lot of stuff only found in a few papers since there are no standard reference works beyond the usual "introductory" string theory books

Slereah

Yeah that's kind of the issue

ACuriousMind

5:27 PM

But I do think my linked question is a good example of a concrete question in string theory that one could solve

It might even be solved and I never found the paper or misunderstood the given references

John Rennie

@enumaris I guess when compiling Fortran the compiled object file acts like a C(++) header file i.e. it contains the details of what arguments functions in that module expect. In C(++) this is done explicitly using the header file so no such mechanism is necessary.

enumaris

haven't gotten to the header file tutorial yet :D

Anonymous

@enumaris Which tutorial are you taking?

Slereah

Maybe I should just invent my own quantum gravity

And write 30 papers on it

enumaris

@Blue learncpp.com

Slereah

5:36 PM

What if spacetime was really... an algebra... of geometries...

something something

enumaris

@Slereah only if you're correct tho

Slereah

What if spacetime was made of fruit

enumaris

otherwise, what's the point, you ain't getting no nobel prize fo dat

Slereah

I'd settle for getting a job

Anonymous

@enumaris Quantum gravity people wouldn't get a noble prize anyway :P

danielunderwood

5:37 PM

@Slereah what kind of fruit? Like are we talking blueberry spacetime or pineapple spacetime?

enumaris

they would if they were right

John Rennie

@Slereah gravity is blatantly emergent - figure out how, write paper, guaranteed Nobel prize. Easy.

Slereah

what if it's not though!

What if I just stole Duffield's ideas and made a paper from them

John Rennie

@Slereah Nothing is fundamentally non-linear. Non-linear theories are always emergent. Now where did I put the address for the Nobel committee?

Slereah

why not

John Rennie

5:40 PM

@Slereah print it on soft paper and I'd buy a few rolls.

Slereah

womp womp

Guess I'll have to settle for the nobel peace prize

John Rennie

Dear Dr. Lereah, I am currently sitting with your paper before me. Shortly it will be behind me.

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Easy: Trick all nuclear powers into replacing their weaponry with your wormhole bomb based on your QG theory.

Either your theory is right and you win the Nobel Prize, or it's wrong and you earn the Nobel Peace Prize

Win-win

Slereah

Brilliant

John Rennie

Though it could mean the end of the world ...

Slereah

5:43 PM

Eh, who's gonna miss it

World's pretty lame

John Rennie

Please don't bring about the end of the world before the Hellboy film is released. After that you can go for it.

enumaris

sounds legit

Slereah

Once in a while I try to read De Witt's paper on defining the path integral properly even in the non-Euclidan case

But they I try and it's all measures and sup norms and my mind starts to go

enumaris

fun beans...

Slereah

alas I must learn about measures

it is pretty important

enumaris

5:48 PM

they be ways to measure sets

Slereah

Not wrong

Captain Bohemian

6:08 PM

@vzn well, women in technology in my country are not deemed more disable in technology. Well, I don't think whether a person is good at technology is related to gender. My MSc advisor (a man) was very poor at computer and often asked his students to help him with it. A string theory professor I knew didn't know much about computer--he said he can only surf internet and use email and he even had a secretary help him type his PhD thesis--meaning he can't use LaTeX at all.

danielunderwood

@enumaris is "wide learning" layers with huge numbers of neurons? Or just some new marketing term? I've heard it a couple times and I have no idea what they're talking about

I also saw an article last night that said people were "combining artificial intelligence and machine learning" to achieve something...

vzn

@CaptainBohemian lol the word in english is "beauty creams" :P your story also reminded me of this before the end twist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosexual

Captain Bohemian

@vzn I don't quite know what you mean, but I am not very into shopping or style and if I have more usable money, I would prefer to spend it on traveling to some wild places than buying clothes, though I would definitely buy more clothes (just a little bit more as I don't really have many clothes).

by wild places I mean the places characteristic of wilderness.

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