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I am currently writing a clear account of what "smooth on the boundary" means
There are two definitions, and the fact that they are equivalent is folklore
00:55
Does anybody know what this banner is?
@EmilioPisanty It's a standard mod-applied banner, I think, mostly meant for use on Skeptics although it is available network-wide AFAIK
@DavidZ ok, cool
thanks =)
np
BTW I mean "standard" only in the sense that it's one of the default post notice options available to moderators on all sites
I don't think we ever use it here
 
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05:05
Why is energy released when we add an electron to an atom?
I understand that energy is required to remove an electron from an isolates gaseous atom, but why is there release of energy while addition of electron to it and why does higher electron gain enthalpy imply higher affinity for electrons?
user228700
Hi, everyone :-)
Sid
Sid
(Since I am watching the dark Knight now.. ) Good mo-rning, ladies and gentlemen
@Abcd that's not true. Energy isn't always released when electron is added to an atom
user228700
@Sid And since I haven't watched that movie, I'm afraid I don't understand this reference you are making but good morning nevertheless!
Sid
Sid
@Abcd It is released only if after you add an electron, the atom becomes stable..
@Kaumudi.H Whaaa... You haven't watched "Dark Knight?" The Dark Knight?
user228700
Nope.
user228700
Chris Nolan's trilogy is very good
batman is mostly recognized as a vigilante than a hero
but w/e
Sid
Sid
The Dark Knight grossed more than a billion dollars during the time of recession I think..
@Sid I know it's not true for Nitrogen, Beryllium, etc. , but why is it released or not released?
Sid
Sid
05:27
@Abcd Anyway, if after adding an electron, the atom becomes more stable, then, Energy is released(since, stable states have very low Energy)
@Sid Did you understand all this in 11th or later?
Sid
Sid
You will understand things better when you apply these basics in 12th..
Don't worry now. Keep calm.
@Sid For example, you studied chemical bonding in 11th and many "Why's" populated your head. How did you deal with them?
@Sid I'll try.
Sid
Sid
I searched google. :)
Also, you can always ask your teachers for clarification of doubts..
yes, right.
user228700
05:34
Whatever happens, however, do not waste hours upon hours watching detailed explanations on YouTube like I did; there isn't a less productive way to feel productive!
I was going down the movie reviews rabbit hole a few days ago
user228700
And..?
I somehow ended up going to a worse rabbit hole : youtube.com/…
i dunno exactly how it happened
user228700
Omg x'D rofl.
nnnever again
user228700
05:41
Suuure :-P
but i watched a lot of slavoj zizek reviews before that shit got real so there's that
@Kaumudi.H Morning (slightly belatedly)
user228700
@BalarkaSen Ah, this was YouTube? I thought you didn't prefer YouTube to watch even the most remotely educational video...
user228700
@JohnRennie :-) It seems that I may need to jump on the next bus to Kerala to report at my college on time for them to verify all my documents and officially admit me.
eh, once you're in the rabbithole it's hard to get out
i only watch interviews, opinions of some of the people i like (eg slavoj zizek reviews) and shitposts
05:45
@Kaumudi.H A bit of a pain, but presumably you could scout out the hostel at the same time to see what you'll need to bring with you.
user228700
^ YEP.
You're going to get very used to that bus journey over the next few years :-(
user228700
:-( Perhaps. I can hope that I will be able to book train tickets in advance while in college...
user228700
@BalarkaSen Funnily enough, I haven't ever gone down some of the more completely random rabbitholes on YouTube. If I do, it's always just Vlogbrothers videos.
Remind me when term starts. August wasn't it? Why do they need you to come to the college now?
user228700
05:47
August, yes. To admit me by verifying that all the documents that I submitted online are really real.
user228700
...and to pay the rest of the fees, I presume. (We paid some of it online when the result was published, as we were required to do)
I bet, when you get there, they'll say there's some obscure document you should have brought with you ... and it'll be back on the bus again
user228700
No. NO. We are taking all precautionary measures to make absolutely sure that this won't happen. 15 hours on a bus is no joke!!
user228700
They've published a list of the required documents.
oh great i'm on that instant regret list again
well, shit
user228700
05:51
@BalarkaSen Yeah, I figured. I was about to say "Don't fall into the hole again!"
user228700
@Balarka: Hang on, isn't ur school s'posed to have started already?
it has. i just go 3 days a week
user228700
And that's completely OK with the...authorities?
Sid
Sid
Isn't there a 75% attendance policy or something?
user228700
05:53
^^ ?
Sid
Sid
3 days a week=50%, right?
i think we're told to maintain a 60%
officially a 75%, sure, but hey who cares
user228700
Man, I would love to have been in your school; especially in 12th, we were hardly allowed any days off.
Sid
Sid
Neither were we. Those who missed school, their parents were contacted by the authorities and they had to reach school within 30 minutes of being contacted..
user228700
And they threatened us using our practical marks, which was completely on them.
05:57
harsh
Sid
Sid
lol. We used to laugh whenever any teacher threatened us with practical marks
user228700
Speaking of which, @Balarka: You go to school on those days in which u have ur labs?
user228700
'Cause you gotta know ur labs, right?
i have 2 lab days, because no biology
so i just go an extra day and i'm done
user228700
@BalarkaSen Dude x'D
user228700
06:00
@BalarkaSen Ah, right, it's not like you've gotta use the school's computer to code.
i didn't take CS either
it's statistics for me
user228700
Oh, wow. Your school is...cool.
user228700
CBSE, right? What's ur stream called?
Sid
Sid
CBSE CS is one of the worst courses that they could give..
nah, WBCHSE
or whatever that's called
user228700
06:02
Ohhhh. OK...
user228700
@Sid I...don't agree.
user228700
Why do u think so?
i think one of the reasons i did not go to an eng med school is because ICSE and CBSE have oppressive and totalitarian education policies
being a Marxist, i plan to destroy that
You don't like programming?
I just don't know anything about it.
user228700
06:03
@BalarkaSen eng med school?
user228700
@BalarkaSen And how, exactly?
revolution
user228700
Sure sure.
Sid
Sid
We learnt more in 10th ICSE than students of CBSE CS do till their 12th..
There's a lot of memorization in stats compared to CS.
user228700
Guys, we've lost Balarka. R.I.P @Balarka. You will be missed.
Sid
Sid
Though, I need to brush up my programming stuff a bit. I have somewhat forgotten some of the Java stuff I did.
Ok, this is pure art now.
Sid
Sid
@Kaumudi.H You were CBSE till 12th?
user228700
06:09
@Sid Yep. Same school from class 1 sigh.
user228700
OK, I gotta go see about this admission thing. Toodles!
Sid
Sid
No offence but, CBSE students don't read even half of what ICSE students do till Class 10th.
In ΛCDM, can I travel to a galaxy outside our local galaxy group and wait there long enough that I will never be able to return to my home galaxy group, due to universe expansion?
06:41
@ACuriousMind Do the previous games fully explain the story or does one have to read the books? The wiki is terrible
Unlike the ol TES wiki
06:54
I'm trying to figure out if I'm interpreting these diagrams like e.g. here correct: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/60519/… i.e. that I can travel arbitrarily close to what is (currently) the edge of the event horizon (which currently extends outside our local group) and then that I can wait there long enough to see my old home absorbed into my (new?) event horizon.
07:34
08:00
Is Grigori Perelman a wizard
08:19
Nope, just a whizz at math.
@Slereah looks like a dark sorcerer to me
he looks like a magic man
He's gonna trick someone in the woods
he def looks like a wizard
so does gromov actually
He has that trickster wizard smile
You have to solve one of his riddle or you'll turn into a newt
(The riddle is the Riemann hypothesis)
Riddle me this, mathman!
As if he's holding is magic stick
08:29
Gromov looks more like an academical wizard
in a wizard tower
@Slereah yeah i think the difference is this: Perelman is an evil wizard
Well, not evil
Just a trickster wizard of old
Hm, who looks like an evil wizard
Cedric Villani is more like a magic man
not an old wizard but a magic man
How does not wanting a million dollars make you "evil?"
08:33
Wizards have no need of your earthly riches
Someone should take a Gandalf and Saruman picture and photoshop Gromov and Perelman's faces in there
he has unlimited power
Hey, the names even rhyme!
The money goes to charity.
Boltzmann looks mildly evil
But more in a supervillain way
Like he has hypnotic powers
and he's gonna rob banks with it
08:35
Oh, I know of a superevil
Boltzmann looks like a mad mage
Legendre is definitely very very twisted
he does look fairly evil here
Like a man out of hell
He's downright satanic rage there
His air aloft with evil power
08:38
Da raiders are known in sports as "the evil empire."
That's why we have Darth Raider as our leader.
Here is Sylvester, of the famed Sylvester matrix laws
He looks like Darwin.
fairly calm eyes
like an archmage
08:40
the face of amphetamines
high as fuk
He came up with 5 theorems just now
AH. HERE HE IS
Alexander Grothendieck is da wizard
Is that a KKK hood?
The Grand Wizard.
Definately evil
Someone is getting sacrificed
This is the man
Have you met him?
Do we know for sure yet if inter-universal Teichmuller theory is real or if it's an elaborate scam
A friend of mine is applying to be a master student of his
@Slereah There have been conferences going on with some top number theorists to decipher his proof
08:57
He does look mildly evil too
but that's just his expression
Good morning @JohnRennie
he looks like Tom Riddle
Fritz Zwicky doesn't look evil but you're getting a piece of his mind
that eyes tho
not evil but twisted for sure
He's this close to kicking your ass
09:03
lel
Close enough?
Defining a clock in GR is not fun
Defining time is not fun.
Hm, I guess that if the spacetime admits a temporal function, I can define this for the entire spacetime
09:21
This is just the bohr model, not modern quantum mechanics!
and even babies know the 1s orbital is peaked inside the nucleus
Also there is no maximal orbital energy
The upper bound is a free electron
indeed indeed
At least in three dimensions
(in two dimensions there is no ionization energy)
you get arbitrarily large orbitals
because $E$ field is constant wrt distance in 2D instead of inverse square law like in 3D?
09:29
Well it's not constant
It's $r^{-1}$ instead of $r^{-2}$
This causes a two body problem to not have any state of positive energy
I see. Hmm, I guess for 1D we don't even have bound states since E is constant wrt r?
user228700
10:19
@JohnR: Tomorrow! I'm going tomorrow and that too by train! :-)
@Kaumudi.H Aha, you got lucky in the ticket lottery!
user228700
I did! :-) A.C and everything. Apparently, food will also be served!
What are you taking with you to read on the train?
Do they have wifi?
user228700
@JohnRennie Room. I have already started reading it but haven't gotten into the flow of it. I hope to in the train.
user228700
10:21
@LasVegasRaiders Nope.
@Kaumudi.H Apparently, food will also be served - the bad news is that it's sambar and rice :-)
user228700
NO! There will be roti, sabji and all!
user228700
Even creamy tomato soup!
How long is the trip going to take?
user228700
10:25
About 11 hours.
Wow, I've just Googled Room and it doesn't look like a barrel of laughs ...
user228700
@JohnRennie Certainly not, no. Like I said before, I had started it but it's narrated by a 5 y/o you see, and this is annoying now but hopefully, I will get used to it...
Read Finnegans Wake
user228700
10:26
@BalarkaSen Oh, you're back from the dead!
How to solve this question?
It's hard to die twice
user228700
:-/
Not for James Bond
user228700
> It is significant for its experimental style and reputation as one of the most difficult works of fiction in the English language.
user228700
10:27
Nah, not now...
I also know that the Ionisation Energy of He^2+ = 54.4 (calculated using a formula because it's a hydrogen like specie)
what a shame
user228700
@BalarkaSen Not on the train, man.
@JohnRennie or anyone?
it's a disgrace. i refuse to suggest you further rAeDiNg material from now on
(that's a threat? really?)
@Abcd The first ionisation energy is the energy required for the process $He \rightarrow He^+$, and the second ionisation energy is the energy required for the process $He^+ \rightarrow He^{2+}$. Add them together and you get energy required for $He \rightarrow He^{2+}$.
@JohnRennie Yes I know that but we need energy for $He^{2+}$ to He, is it the same?
user228700
@BalarkaSen :-( I've been finding it extremely difficult to get back into reading, man, so I don't want to try to read "one of the most difficult works of fiction in the English language" on the train...
tbh you should not want to try to read it anywhere ever
unless you're effed in the head like me
user228700
Wut?
user228700
10:34
@BalarkaSen I'm fairly certain that all of are effed in the head, mate...
@Abcd The processes $He \rightarrow He^{2+}$ and $He^{2+} \rightarrow He$ are the same process in reverse. So the energy changes involved have to be equal and opposite.
@Kaumudi.H speak for yourself ...
@JohnRennie Alright. I got confused thinking that it had something to do with Electron Gain Enthalpy
I am the very model of sanity
user228700
@JohnRennie Oh, you are too, I'm sure! Everyone is.
10:36
Though I will concede that the rest of the universe is somewhat effed up :-)
user228700
@BalarkaSen I don't understand the first line, even :-!
@JohnRennie If that's the case, then EGE and IE should be numerically equal, am I right?
Can't you guys tell this is a marketing trick?
10 mins ago, by Kaumudi. H
> It is significant for its experimental style and reputation as one of the most difficult works of fiction in the English language.
@Abcd yes, though electron affinity/electron gain enthalpy tends to be used for the combination of an electron and a neutral atom to form an anion.
user228700
> The fall
(bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntro
varrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!) of a once wallstrait
oldparr is retaled early in bed and later on life down through all christian
minstrelsy.
user228700
10:38
...very nice(?).
beautiful
it's not a book per se. it's a nonsense verbal poetry mainly based on multi-level puns
@JohnRennie Thanks a lot, I didn't know that.
user228700
@BalarkaSen I...see.
"bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawnt‌​oohoohoordenenthurnuk" is actually an amalgamation of "thunder" in various languages
user228700
I'm baffled; how is one to know this while reading?
10:41
obviously one has to be a intergalactic supergenius to understand all the references
user228700
@BalarkaSen Intergalactic super genius, huh? A tall order, that one...
That particular line is referencing the fall of Adam and Eve on Earth, or something, I think
@0celo7 The first has nothing to do with this one's story, but the second is kinda a prelude to it. I think the character descriptions in the game menu do a decent job of explaining who is who if you don't know and/or remember them, though.
user228700
10:44
Did u read the whole "book"?
ofc not
I have been at it for a while :P
whatever "read" means
user228700
:-P Ah. I don't fancy reading books that require me to reference the dictionary every 30 seconds...
user228700
That was the case when I tried to read David Copperfield 7 years ago.
user228700
@LasVegasRaiders It detracts from the joyful experience of being lost in the pages...
10:47
on the other hand you could die in it's pages
many Joycean scholars have
lost and never found
user228700
Geez. No, thanks.
You need a good math book to keep you grounded.
user228700
No, man, you need Ruskin Bond.
@LasVegasRaiders I use a piece of wire to keep myself grounded ...
10:50
or that^
:-D
i need Brothers Karamazov
user228700
I assumed you'd have it already.
i do but it's too long
user228700
Huh?
i read Crime and Punishment after my secondary examinations. i need one like that for this one
Brothers Karamazov is like hundreds of pages
on two volumes :3
user228700
10:52
@BalarkaSen this one?
I meant the novel in question. "Brothers Karamazov"
user228700
I see...
user228700
And I need sleep. I slept for 3 hours last night >.<
i should take up a project to read the most lengthy and complex fictions and films in history one day
"Satantango" is on my list of films
user228700
@BalarkaSen Ah, but school and exams and Math and when will u have the time?
10:55
@JohnRennie I understood that Tl+ is more stable than Tl3+ due to inert pair effect but why is Ga3+ more stable than Ga+? Brief explanation would suffice.
user228700
@BalarkaSen seven-hour episodic film, wow.
i hear it's damn good
k, i have to run now
I ain't got time for that
Cya
Are tensor distributions defined on non-orientable manifolds?
If their support is the entire manifold
Since integration isn't well defined then
@Abcd no idea. That's chemistry rather than physics.
11:10
@JohnRennie Okay.
Well that was an easy max for the day. Don't you just love the HNQ list?
11:30
"Proof. (You should not read this proof the first time around)"
Nonlinear book
12:23
@ACuriousMind does this game hold the record for the longest mq?
Sid
Sid
@JohnRennie HNQ is the worst thing in SE unless I get rep from it. :P
@JohnRennie do you mean the zeroth law says you will equibriate at a constant temp?
I believe that is word for word the zeroth law, not the second
12:42
yeah, zeroth law said if A is equlibrium with B and B is in equlibrium with C, then A is in equlibrium with C and thus has the same temperature
put that in a more mathy way: the equlibrium relation is transitive
@Sid Yes! :-)
@0celo7 the zeroth law says equilibrium is transitive doesn't it?
@ACuriousMind I want to read the books but there's like nine of them and thousands of pages
@JohnRennie maybe; does the second law say equilibrium happens at constant temperature?
@0celo7 The second law says heat flows from hot objects to cold ones. Well, one of the many ways of phrasing the second law says that.
I'll need to see a proof.
@JohnRennie I ordered thermal paste and a fan cable. I have a feeling my water cooler should be cooling better than a stock fan...
@JohnRennie I thought the second law is that entropy increases
12:54
@Kenshin you can blame entropy for anything and you might be right
@0celo7 it will do no harm to redo the thermal paste, though I doubt you'll see any difference. Just don't break anything unclipping the cooling system :-)
@JohnRennie But I'm not using the right fan for the radiator
I stuck a case fan on there because the good Corsair fan didn't come with a long cable
It's conceivable the airflow isn't optimal
I don't know about AMD processors, but Intel CPUs are safe up to 90C. The i7-3540M CPU on this laptop regularly runs up to the mid 70s and higher if I'm really hammering it. Bernardo claims to have got his i7-3740QM CPU up to 100C.
So your CPU temp seems perfectly normal.
@JohnRennie Ok, but I'm at 80C when at full blast. I have a water cooler, I should be able to overclock.
The point being that I don't want normal, I have a water cooler.
If you aren't using the fan supplied with your cooler then getting the right power cable and using the proper fan does seem a good idea. I'd try that first and see what difference it makes before you go changing the thermal paste.
12:58
Aight
Once a CPU is installed, and the heat sink attached I'm always a bit reluctant to mess with it because the heat sink clips can be quite tight. I'm always nervous of breaking something trying to get the heat sink off.
@0celo7 It's one of the longest I've played, at least
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