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5:00 PM
Yep :D
 
Quite remarkable :-)
Though I have to say I suspect a little of that sort of thing goes a long way. I feel no urge to rush out and buy any albums by them.
 
@JohnRennie I think that one won them a grammy
 
Therefore, is why they look so suspiciously similar
 
@Mithrandir24601 Indeed. But that doesn't change my opinion.
 
@JohnRennie Fair enough - I really like them due to the sheer variety of stuff they do :)
 
5:12 PM
The blue eyes in that video occupy that weird middle ground between creepy and fascinating :-)
 
I am thinking of giving myself a English name or a Western name
Peter sounds pretty cool to me. but some of my American friends laugh at me when they hear it.
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform I think the problem is restricted to pure Yang-Mills.
 
I don't understand what's wrong with "Peter".
 
You are right that adding too many fermions removes confinement in some models
 
5:17 PM
@Shing Why not your original name?
 
what if we add anyons?
@Shing we'll call you Timothy from now on
assuming you are a he
otherwise, Yolanda
 
Hey @AccidentalFourierTransform, I need another QFT person to check my sanity here: Are my comments at this answer justified?
 
ah, I read that answer before
I didnt quite understand it :-S
 
The answer makes almost no sense to me, yet it sounds so sure of what it is saying.
 
yeah lol
it's like when I read answers about ST
I have no idea of what's going on
but I assume they must be fine
 
5:20 PM
Well, I would be fine with not understanding it if it were about a field I don't know, but this is something I am reasonably sure I should understand.
 
@Avantgarde My original name is Shing. But I think if I have a English name, my foreign friends will have a easier time when they need to call me.
 
@ACuriousMind yes, here I wouldnt expect to be that lost
 
I mean, it's renormalization, so a bit of wackiness is expect, but... :P
 
5:22 PM
Lawrence doesn't seem to post QFT answers very often
 
'cause it's awesome
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Timothy? any reasons? is it a cool, but much uncommon name? (I am a he)
 
Tim is a very common name
 
@Shing I see. Well for one, Shing seems a pretty easy name to say. And secondly, not being able to say a name is their problem, not yours! In any case, I don't know of what name to suggest.
 
and you are Tim to me from now on, whether you like it or not
 
5:24 PM
lol okay
 
@Shing try Diego
plenty of famous Diegos
say
 
@Avantgarde haha thanks. I actually like "Shing" quite a lot. I guess I will stay for that.
 
I like the former Diego better
 
@Shing I'd do the same ;)
 
5:27 PM
@EmilioPisanty Diego? Is this a Spanish name? or it just spells "Die-go"?
 
@Shing yeah, Spanish name
with a short e
 
neutrinos are the worst
I really dislike electroweak physics
everything is so awkward
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform what, 'cause it's actually interesting?
=P
 
and messy and inelegant
nope
QED, that's something one can like
QCD, more or less
EW=ewwww
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform neutrino oscillations are our best bet at beyond-SM physics by a loooong way
whether y'like it or not
 
5:31 PM
it's not that I like it or not
IDGAF about phenomenology
and the ST is boring too
I dont like it, and its extensions are usually even more awkward
 
@EmilioPisanty haha thanks, I think I get it, Diego sounds pretty cool.
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform that's cause Spain is weird
it's the most common name in my generation
 
you get about one per twenty people or something like that
 
you Mexicans with your wrong tortillas and wrong chorizos
 
5:33 PM
there were all these parents in the late 1980s who just independently decided to name their kids Diego
with obviously no influence from any football players or anything
=P
 
lol
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform meh
 
I feel nauseous
Stop.
 
@BalarkaSen with the food, or just meat-based products?
 
food
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform that's a good start
is better
@BalarkaSen OK, I'll stop now
 
wow
 
@EmilioPisanty What is the rub? Something with chilies in, perhaps?
 
5:38 PM
@dmckee chilli powder and lime
obviously
 
Nice.
 
yeah, Ill never understand why Mexicans eat fruit with chilli, lemon, salt...
 
@dmckee yassssss
 
dude, its supposed to be sweet
 
is that spicy mango?
 
5:39 PM
@AccidentalFourierTransform 'cause it's better that way
 
I see Food bar is finally back in operation
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform 'sabout right
 
tbh, Mexican food is usually very good
I mean, for us foreigners it is usually are a one-way ticket to a very tasty food poisoning
2
but its worth it
hey who deleted my comment about Diego's being bad people!?
 
huh
how was that inappropriate?
 
5:50 PM
My name is Diego and I was offended by that
 
I am
(Sorry, my English isn't very good. I'm native Mexican, you see)
 
@Danu :-) Unfortunately, I am a different one.
 
@Slereah I need your help
 
6:17 PM
@BernardoMeurer wot
 
@Slereah I need a French paper on Transcendental Numbers from 1851. I have it, but this shit is in French. I got my friend to translate it and I'm typesetting it now, but I need someone who actually knows maths to review it
Plox
halp
 
you can send it in
I'll see what I can do
 
@Slereah Sweet! What's your email? I'll send it once I finish typesetting
If you know how to use GitHub I can just make you a contributor there :^)
 
You can send it at slereah@yahoo.fr
 
@Slereah Alright, will do. Should be done typesetting today if nothing shows up :^)
 
 
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8:20 PM
Any astronomers here?
 
@SirCumference If they don't mind me pinging them, I believe @HDE226868 is interested in astro. related things...
 
Well, I'll just pose the question: the Kármán line is defined as the dividing line between the atmosphere and space. Yet the thermosphere and exosphere are both defined as parts of the atmosphere, and extend far above the Kármán line.
What type of weird definition nonsense is this?
 
If I remember correctly, the Karman line is somewhat arbitrarily defined
 
@SirCumference By an ever weirder coincidence, I ended up reading this only yesterday... If you read further down the Wiki page, you find that, according to Wiki "The Kármán line is the altitude where the speed necessary to aerodynamically support the airplane's full weight equals orbital velocity"
 
@Mithrandir24601 I suppose it depends on who you ask. The FAI defines it as the boundary between Earth and space.
 
8:27 PM
it turned out to be completely irrelevant for my uses and it was actually about 10-15km up that the effect I was looking at (parts of atmospheric attenuation) effectively went away
 
For all intents and purposes for them, it's fine that way
 
If you use e.g. MODTRAN for atmospheric attenuation, you do find that it (the online version anyway) does only go up to 99km
What I also find weird about it is that it's too low for a low earth orbit as there's too much drag :/ so it really does just feel arbitrary, but I know nothing about astro. stuff :P
 
@SirCumference shrug The exosphere isn't always regarded as part of the atmosphere, partly because there's no real way to determine where it really ends.
Also, @JaimeGallego's right: It's not a particularly objective definition.
 
^ That short film has the plot of a woman slowly floating upwards to space :P
Artists don't know what to make these days
 
9:26 PM
the beach was lovely tonight
the water was perfect
 
(removed)
2:05 AM now, have exam at 8:30 AM. Still one chapter remains.
 
9:42 PM
@DanielSank General consensus is that superconducting qubits would be more interesting :)
 
Does anyone know the prequistes for this book: books.google.com/…
^ is it just Linear Algebra ?
 
@Zophikel For some reason, the link isn't working and it's not displaying the full URL for me to copy and paste :/ (not that I'll know the answer anyway)
 
@Mithrandir24601 books.google.com/…
                                      ^ It's this quantum computing book I want to read
 
9:58 PM
@Zophikel It seems to start at the basic principles, so it looks promising on that front, but I've never actually read it, so don't listen to me :P
(yes, the link works this time :) )
 
10:43 PM
@Mithrandir24601 do you know the extact prequistes
I'm thinking it's just linear algebra since knowledge of Information Theory and Complexity Theory
aren't necessarily required but helpful
 
@Zophikel My guess (and I really mean that) is that it doesn't look like you need much knowledge beyond linear algebra... A basic knowledge of classical logic might be useful? I don't know, to be honest, but that's what it looks like at first glance
 
@Mithrandir24601 have you done Quantum Information Theory ?
 
Yep
(and before you ask, I've also done quantum computation, yes)
 
@Mithrandir24601 I have tons of questions about the field what are the intial prequistes before starting i've done lots of linear algebra
I don't have any Physics background(Classical Mechanics)
 
@Zophikel So have you done any computer science related stuff? You don't need a ton of knowledge of QM, so linear algebra should be fine (as in, I don't personally think that you need to spend ages learning QM as well) with a book that introduces you to the relevant QM
 
11:01 PM
@Mithrandir24601 I used to do computer security stuff
 
@Zophikel before you start reading textbooks, you might want to try reading through the IBM quantum experience user guide to give you a good flavour of what's going on first and that might help tell you where you might want to learn more stuff before going into it properly
 
all right @Mithrandir24601
 
@Zophikel Nice! :) So with that and linear algebra, personally I think you'll be fine
 
@Mithrandir24601 also do you know any texts that dive into the relationship between Fourier Analysis and QC
 
(not that computer security has that much relevance outside of quantum key distribution, although for all I know, it does, but you hopefully understand what a gate is and so on)
 
11:04 PM
@Mithrandir24601 it's been a long time since i've done electronics stuff
oh @Mithrandir24601 and for that book I linked it's just linear algebra and basic analysis that's the prequisties
 
@Zophikel I don't know any books but the bit on the Quantum Fourier Transform is where you want to start at least
 
@Mithrandir24601 also what areas of math is QIT connected to
 
@Zophikel So, everywhere I've been, quantum info. is considered to be applied maths
(or 'mathematical physics')
 
@Mithrandir24601 ahh ok
 
If you want a more direct/detailed answer than that, I'm not a mathematician, so can't help you further :/
Quantum Computation by the way, is a different matter - I know mathematicians, computer scientists and physicists who study it
 
11:11 PM
@Mithrandir24601 could you direct me to them
 
(and quantum engineers actually trying to build one, but for some reason, I consider 'quantum computation to be the theoretical side and quantum engineering to be the experimental side, but maybe that's just me?)
 
@Mithrandir24601 What level of student will be in the audience. Give me as much information as possible.
 
@DanielSank Do you mean for lectures?
 
@Zophikel That's like asking how addition and physics are related.
@Mithrandir24601 For whatever presentation you want me to give!
 
@DanielSank Oh, oops sorry, I though you were @Zophikel
:P
 
11:13 PM
?
 
@DanielSank So, we've all got Masters degrees in physics or maths with physics. We've all had lecture courses in quantum information, quantum computation, quantum optics, all the platforms that I know of except for superconducting. We've all spent a week at D-Wave
 
Oh.
ok
 
@Qmechanic Heh, that's not that absurd.
 
@Mithrandir24601 O.O i'm just a mere undergrad
 
@Mithrandir24601 So a discussion getting into how a superconducting qubit actually works would be appropriate.
@Zophikel He wasn't talking about you. I'm giving a guest seminar (or something) at his university.
 
11:17 PM
@DanielSank oh sorry
 
There are many folks in this chat that don't have masters etc. :-)
@Zophikel No apology needed. Online chat is confusing.
 
@DanielSank yeah I know
 
@DanielSank Yeah... I think so... The above lecture courses were at Masters level, except optics which was just for us first year PhD students
 
You should update your profile: it says you're in high school, @Zophikel
 
@DanielSank I still am
 
11:18 PM
1 min ago, by Zophikel
@Mithrandir24601 O.O i'm just a mere undergrad
?
 
@DanielSank dosen't undergrad also include high school
 
@DanielSank apart from that, we're a mixture of people with all sorts of backgrounds. Some will go on and do theory, others experimental/engineering work. I'll e-mail you a link of a webpage that I'm too embarrassed to share on here that gives our individual backgrounds in a bit more detail, if you want to read that
::hides::
 
@Zophikel I've never heard of any high schooler being called undergrad unless it's a nonstandard definition.
 
@JaimeGallego I did look up the definition of undergrad and it included HS
 
It may depend on the ed system.
 
11:28 PM
ahh ok
 
@Zophikel Not usually, no.
 
@Mithrandir24601 Would there be a way to join this seminar from outside? I'm not a quantum information person (and I wouldn't expect anyone to break it down to my level), but I would be very interested in hearing @DanielSank explaining how a superconducting qubit works.
(I'll survive if the answer is "no")
 
@Mithrandir24601 It's a perfectly reasonable website...
 
@DanielSank We've also had lectures in Device Engineering and it's probably helpful for me to mention that optics included some things like the optical Bloch equations etc.
 
@Mithrandir24601 I usually go out of my way to not assume the audience knows specific stuff like that.
Do you have a google account?
 
11:34 PM
It's a good website, I'm just embarrassed at that paragraph on me - I'm not a fan of writing short paragraphs like that on myself :P
 
@Mithrandir24601 ah
 
@DanielSank yep
 
Well nobody else here knows your real name.
 
@DanielSank yeah, they do - if they could be bothered to find it in the transcript
 
Ping me on Google hangouts, please.
 
11:37 PM
@ACuriousMind Hmm... That's up to @DanielSank firstly and the lecturers secondly (I don't see why they'd have a problem with it)
 
@Mithrandir24601 I don't care who shows up.
@Mithrandir24601 Wait... who are "the lecturers"?
 
@DanielSank The 'management' for want of a better word
(they're not actually going to be lecturing or anything)
 
@Mithrandir24601 I dont think your paragraph is embarrasing :)
 
Ping me on Google hangouts.
 
@DanielSank I thought I had :/
Tried again, using a different e-mail address
@ACuriousMind Thanks :) I still do though :P
 
11:45 PM
@Mithrandir24601 nothing
Are you pinging me @google or @gmail?
 
@DanielSank huh - @google
your profile pic is an octopus, so I'm pretty sure I've got the right person...
 
...yet I see nothing.
 
Just to check - by 'ping' do you mean 'send an 'invite''?
:/
 
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