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12:12 AM
Having a bit of a brain-fart. If I'm given force maginitude at distance for couloumb's law and point charge, how can I get maimum force magnitude?
 
12:53 AM
@ACuriousMind No physicist lawyer cougar for me :(
listofthingineverthoughtidsay++
 
You're growing up :)
 
1:08 AM
@0celo7 How did it go?
 
2:03 AM
Seems I missed a fight or something.
 
for me it showed 2400 unread messages
 
2:29 AM
@BernardMeurer just got back
 
Baby got back?
 
@KyleKanos she does
 
That would be awkward if she didn't.....
 
@KyleKanos Let us see your handwriting
 
2:32 AM
Uh. Why?
 
^
 
It's a competition, who has the worst one
Currently @0celo7 is champion
 
Eh, mine's okay.
 
wtf
 
It's legible. Mostly
 
2:32 AM
Mine's in the transcript somewhere
actually no, @FenderLesPaul's one might be worse
 
I thought @Danu had the worst
 
Was it Danu that tried to summon Cthulhu on the board?
 
You guys do weird things here
 
oh no that was FLP
 
Yeah his is the worst
 
2:34 AM
FLP?
 
FenderLesPaul
 
Friendly Little Pony
 
Not being here, acronyms are lost on me
 
Really KK, really?
 
2:36 AM
Well, when they're about people.
 
I'll get ACM to FLP your JD
 
I know ACM! I know that one!
I presume JD is Duffy?
 
Yep
Goddammit we need more acronyms
 
I learn lots of new things at the Jaerb
 
Jaerb?
 
2:38 AM
Probably before your time
 
The hell
hahahaha
I'm 17, most things are before my time
 
I think I was in early undergrad when that was popular
 
@ACuriousMind Ok, so the key theorems are the following: Theorem 1. Let $\omega_g$ be a volume form and $\{E_i\}$ be an orthonormal frame. Then $\omega_g(E_1,\dotsc,E_n)=1$ iff $\omega_g=\sqrt{g}\,\mathrm{d}x^1\wedge\cdots\wedge\mathrm{d}x^n$. Theorem 2. If $\iota:S\hookrightarrow M$, $S$ has codim 1, then $\iota^*(i_X\omega_g)=\omega_{\iota^*g}$. Unfortunately, I don't see where exactly in Lee he uses any property specific to Riemannian manifolds...(as opposed to pseudo-Riem.)
 
(that being Homestar Runner)
 
OMG
THIS IS GREAT
I'M CRYING
 
2:40 AM
@0celo7 You'd be proud: some of the documents I write at work use $\mathrm{d}x$ for integrals and derivatives
Instead of being lazy and using $dx$
I also managed to use the term group isomorphism to describe an attribute of $\ln(x)$
 
@KyleKanos Holy shit how
@KyleKanos :)
 
Homestarrunner is life
 
@0celo7 Because $(\mathbb{R}^+,\times)\mapsto(\mathbb{R},+)$
And I used $\ln(a/b)=\ln(a)-\ln(b)$
 
@KyleKanos Oh, are you sure you don't mean homomorphism?
 
You just turned the plus sign there man, quit cheating
 
2:45 AM
@0celo7 No
 
Oh, is $\mathbb{R}^+\cong\mathbb{R}$?
Yeah, they have the same cardinality.
 
Sigh, I really want to learn maths
 
If I'm not mistaken, the $\mathbb{R}^+\to\mathbb{R}$ is the homomorphism aspect, but the group of positive real & multiplications to real & addition bit is the isomorophism
@BernardMeurer I also removed a plus sign too
 
@KyleKanos Right but I don't think that two groups can be isomorphic unless they're isomorphic as sets.
 
Heck if I know....
 
2:47 AM
Now it's not even cheating, it's just magic @KyleKanos
 
But we haven't gotten close to groups in my algebra lecture, so all I have is conjecture.
 
And bijecture
 
:D
@BernardMeurer I can recommend a book.
 
@0celo7 Please do, will it be understandable tho?
I'm willing to put hard work into it
 
@BernardMeurer Introduction to Smooth Manifolds by Jack Lee.
 
2:50 AM
Which is something I don't even do for my survivel
 
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
 
He reviews calculus in the back.
Implicit function theorem, PDE stuff, the basics.
 
Options, Futures and Other Derivatives by John Hull
 
@KyleKanos I stopped reading fiction, it caused me to daydream
 
@BernardMeurer Seriously, if you ever get into geometry, pick up a copy of Lee.
Because you're not ACM and can't remember every proof.
 
2:51 AM
The prices on these books
 
He has most of them in his book.
 
@BernardMeurer I got mine for $25.
 
Yeah but 20$USD is a lot of Brazilian monopoly moneys
 
I sat near some Brazilians when Jose Aldo got KTFO
That was rather amusing
 
2:53 AM
@KyleKanos Yeah just finish making me sad man, REAL NICE
 
Almost as funny as Anderson Silva shattering his leg in his first fight after getting KTFO for being an idiot
 
Every day it's a new 7x1
I'll go back to my corner
 
Sorry.
I'll stop
I'll be heading off to bed soon anyway
Working 12 hour days (commute included) kinda sucks
 
Working 7 hour days (not including commute) sucks too
 
At least you guys have a job
 
2:56 AM
Well you're probably making close to minimum wage, no?
 
@KyleKanos Si, $11/h
@ACuriousMind IT FOLLOWS FROM THE MINUS SIGN IN THE METRIC
 
You follow the minus sign
 
I CRACKED THE CODE
 
I'm glad I'm not making $11/hr
 
Me neither
But I ain't glad
 
2:58 AM
I couldn't afford the wife & kids
 
@KyleKanos I'm glad I don't have your kids.
 
I'd have to sell them for science or something
 
Kidneys.
 
@0celo7 My kids are awesome
 
@KyleKanos Kids?
 
2:59 AM
You have what, like five kidneys at your disposal?
 
4 kids
 
@KyleKanos WILL BABYSIT FOR MATHS
 
Yeah, they're like 6, 4, 2 & 2 years old
They're not really ready for maths
And I can teach them
 
No no
You'll teach me
 
@KyleKanos what math do you know
teach them Riemannian geometry first
on surfaces
it's intuitive
 
3:01 AM
Practical math: 2+2=5
 
@BernardMeurer btw it went well
 
@0celo7 Good thing
 
@KyleKanos Ah, give them 1984 right off the bat.
 
Was her mother a zealot after all?
 
No, she's super nice
 
3:01 AM
I wish I had a pocket mathematician
Did she allow you to perverse her daughter?
 
@BernardMeurer no, @ACuriousMind is mine
@BernardMeurer the fuck
 
@0celo7 I concur...that was awkward
 
@KyleKanos It's what he'll do
Crystal crusher
 
Occy don't know jack about girls
 
Occy?
 
3:03 AM
Ocelot
 
@KyleKanos my nick is Ossie
 
No, your nickname is either 0celo7 or Occy
Your real name is something else
 
@KyleKanos Ryan
 
His real name is John
 
I know what your real name is
 
3:03 AM
He's lying
 
my real name is
 
dammit
 
JOHN CENA
 
Your email last month has your full name in it
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA
@KyleKanos Stalker
 
3:04 AM
@KyleKanos my full name is not a secret
@BernardMeurer has met my sister
 
@BernardMeurer He emailed me
 
@0celo7 True
I had drinks with her
Would any of you trade books for my organs?
 
I don't think I've met anyone
And I think that is a good thing or something.
 
@KyleKanos Really? Not even your wife?
 
3:05 AM
me ^
 
@BernardMeurer Nope. Somehow managed to have 4 kids without ever meeting her
 
@KyleKanos TEACH ME
 
It's actually quite difficult
 
@KyleKanos gloryholes are fun
 
Does she even know?
 
3:07 AM
but you know about that ;)
 
Oh no @0celo7 You didn't
You dawg
 
Well, now that that joke was killed by two teenagers...I was meaning I've not met anyone from PSE
 
Hey hey, it wasn't my fault
 
@KyleKanos you're gonna have 4+ of us running around in a few years
@BernardMeurer Yes.
 
@0celo7 No, they'll be 4 of me running around
Very different
 
3:10 AM
@KyleKanos Won't make it past his kids' teenage years
 
@KyleKanos So you were better than us?
@BernardMeurer check snap, my first offer
 
Oh, now I get it
 
@0celo7 Probably
 
I want introductory books
 
@KyleKanos Define "better"
 
3:12 AM
Didn't make sex jokes?
 
@BernardMeurer bro it says INTRODUCTION to String Theory and M Theory
 
Isn't string theory kind of broke?
Like my morals
 
Well I'm heading to bed now
 
I have to have some introductory shit around here
 
g'night folks
 
3:14 AM
@KyleKanos Really?
I don't even make them that much anymore
 
@KyleKanos Have a goodnight man
 
@BernardMeurer I don't think I have anything here you could read :/
maybe Weinberg if you know some calculus
or Shankar
 
I know some calc
 
vector calc in n dimensions?
 
3:25 AM
@BernardMeurer that's an issue
 
See, I need MATHS
 
so learn vector calc
maybe you can learn concurrently with @KyleKanos 's youngsters
@BernardMeurer once you know vector calc there are many many options for you to explore
 
@0celo7 Sigh
 
@BernardMeurer stop sitting in your room doing whatever you're doing and go learn vector calc
 
@0celo7 Give me a pdf
 
3:33 AM
I don't have a vector calc pdf
 
And I'm searching for a job currently
vector calc for dummies
 
vector calc is trivial, why would I have a PDF for that?
 
Dunno, some larger book that went over it as well
 
no
 
FIND ME ONE
 
3:54 AM
"an event is starting in 7 minutes"
what event is this
 
Was about to ask
 
4:32 AM
@user507974 not for this room. The next scheduled event is a chat session on March 8.
 
@BernardMeurer have you watched the MIT calc 3 vids
 
@0celo7 Nope
 
user116211
@0celo7: Saw that question
 
user116211
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Q: General expectation value

TheGhostOfPerditionI have a basic question related to finding expectation values of an operator $\hat{Q}$ We know that the expectation of $\hat{Q}$ (in the position space) is given by $$\langle Q \rangle=\int {\Psi^* Q\Psi \,\mathrm dx} \tag 1$$ How do we know that the above equation is valid for all $\hat Q$? ...

 
user116211
What do you think?
 
4:46 AM
@user36790 I'm too worried about orientations on Lorentz manifolds to care
 
user116211
Don't you think it happens only when $\Psi$ is a stationary state of Q
 
user116211
@0celo7 O.O
 
user116211
That means a pure state
 
I don't know what that is
 
user116211
@0celo7 Pure state?
 
4:48 AM
yes
 
user116211
$$\hat{H}|\eta_i\rangle= E_i|\eta_i\rangle$$
 
user116211
That is pure state of $\hat{H}$
 
you mean an eigenstate?
 
user116211
@0celo7 yep
 
then why don't you say the standard word?
 
user116211
4:52 AM
@0celo7 Because I only knew it now by googling
 
user116211
I followed Feynman lectures where he called them 'stationary state'
 
@user36790 my naive understanding is that it only works if $|x\rangle$ are eigenstates of $\hat Q$
@user36790 that's definitely not normal
 
user116211
@0celo7 Yes, that is what I'm saying
 
user116211
@0celo7 O.O
 
@user36790 ok, leave that as a comment
 
user116211
4:53 AM
@0celo7 Okay
 

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