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user218912
10:01 PM
ah I remember
 
user218912
Feb 10 at 23:54, by 3507
I bought this random qft book from a booksale and idk if I should read it.
 
you can use it as tinder to start a fire
 
user218912
why shouldn't I read it?
 
user218912
it seems o.k.
 
oh you can also read it
I never said otherwise
 
user218912
10:03 PM
it doesn't cover LSZ
 
a pretty big omission
 
weinberg doesn't cover LSZ either.
nor does Zee
 
Peskin does
 
@0celo7 That's not true.
 
YES! My copy of Hartshorne just arrived!!!
I can stop being lost in class!
 
10:10 PM
Yay, now you can be lost in Hartshorne!
 
@ACuriousMind Proof?
 
@0celo7 page 438
 
That's literally the reason I think it's a terrible book
 
@ACuriousMind For about the next six or seven weeks all I have to worry about is 1.1, 1.2, 2.1, and 2.2! Should be fun!
 
where
@ACuriousMind where is the LSZ formula
 
10:13 PM
he just told you
 
it's not on this page
 
@0celo7 It's "encoded" in the text as "the usual Feynman rules".
 
@ACuriousMind huh?
@ACuriousMind This really frustrated me when reading the book
I do not see it on this page
 
You see the "The above result" in the second paragraph, yes? The result talked about is essentially the LSZ formula, but he didn't write it down again because he already knows how to compute the n-point function by Feynman rules, so saying that the procedure gives "the usual Feynman rules" is enough
I don't see what is surprising about this, Weinberg does everything differently :P
@NeuroFuzzy What, one and a half months to learn the definitions of varieties/schemes?
Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by 1.1, 2.1, etc.
 
Thermodynamics question
I am cold
What to do
 
10:19 PM
Burn stuff
 
What if it's an endothermic burn
I could end up even colder
 
@ACuriousMind No I don't see that...
 
user218912
it's cold here too.
 
user218912
like 10 degrees.
 
user218912
@Slereah dafuq is that?
 
10:21 PM
a joke
 
user218912
oh
 
@0celo7 Argh, you have a hardcover, don't you? :P
Just go and look in the index for LSZ
 
@ACuriousMind nope
 
@ACuriousMind Chapter 1 section 1, chapter 1 section 2, chapter 2 section 1, chapter 2 section 2, over the next 5 weeks. Very doable pace!
 
user218912
nice I found a worked out solution to one of the problems in my problem set on the internet which I will use to check my work only.
 
10:28 PM
@ACuriousMind does your page look like this?
 
Yes, and I can see "the above result" in the second paragraph clearly in your picture :P
 
Huh?
It literally say "the above famous theorem"
 
Oh, it's theorem, not result, sorry
...was that really the issue?
 
WHICH famous result, dude
that's my problem
 
The above one :>
 
10:30 PM
there's a mess of shit on the previous page
and what's with that factor $N$ he mentions
god my QFT is rusty
 
Get the Jabba the Hutt and Gromm book
since u like math so much
 
@Slereah do you even own any math books
 
@0celo7 Aha, so the problem is not that Weinberg doesn't cover LSZ, it's that you find his presentation confusing!
 
@0celo7 I own Robinson
Also Abramowitz Stegun
 
I'll not argue for Weinberg being a paragon of clarity, but this isn't the same as "Weinberg doesn't cover LSZ".
 
10:32 PM
And the integral one
 
@ACuriousMind Ok
"Weinberg does not cover LSZ in any form understandable by nonexperts"
$\cong$ Weinberg does not cover LSZ
 
I dont think Weinberg is intended to be read by non-experts
 
What non-expert is gonna read Weinberg
 
me in high school
 
Neither is any other QFt book, which is why learning it from books is so hard :P
 
10:33 PM
That's like telling some pleb who wants to learn about GR to read HE
 
@ACuriousMind can you please just explain
this is your chance to save me
 
user218912
@Slereah sounds familiar...
 
BASIC ALGEBRA AND CALCULUS
 
user218912
someone told me exactly that.
 
It was probably a joke
 
10:34 PM
@0celo7 explain what?
 
user218912
@Slereah no they were 100% serious.
 
@ACuriousMind page 437
@bloo you got trolled, son
@Slereah Steenrod
Schouten
 
user218912
@0celo7 :(
 
I can't just pick a random page in Weinberg and start explaining it, I would need to backtrack and decipher the horrible notation first
 
@ACuriousMind Fine.
Next summer, you, me, Weinberg.
We'll read it together
 
10:35 PM
Why would I read a QFT book?
;P
 
I also own a bunch of logic books
But they're not really books
 
@ACuriousMind to help me
 
They're like
Compilation of articles
 
I don't want to hate physics
But Weinberg is why I do
 
Best GR book for plebs, btw
I read that as a kid
It was pretty cool
 
user218912
10:36 PM
@0celo7 can I join assuming I do well in both my qft courses by that time?
 
no
 
user218912
wow
 
imo Schwartz to learn QFT
 
@Slereah And there your obsession with weird spacetimes began? :D
 
@ACuriousMind It does speak of wormholes
 
10:37 PM
@bloo you'll be reading Lee
 
Tho my weird spacetime obsession actually stems from Stephen Baxter's books
 
user218912
@0celo7 why?
 
Since that's where I learned for the first time about closed timelike curves
It's a very poorly documented topic in most basic GR books
 
Carroll barely mentions it
 
10:39 PM
@bloo from top to bottom
 
user218912
@0celo7 what...
 
user218912
I don't like mathematician books.
 
Here is my tip to learn physics
 
user218912
lol...
 
user218912
I agree, once I git gud the learning physics part becomes trivial.
 
10:43 PM
@bloo at least read the bottom one
 
user218912
@0celo7 maybe someday
 
Wald as an intro might be a bit much
 
well then
I have the perfect book
 
user218912
I'm reading carroll right now.
 
user218912
I like it so I won't change books.
 
10:44 PM
 
That pleb book contains an explanation of hawking radiation for children, btw
It involves virtual particle pairs
What a bunch of scrubs
 
user218912
@Slereah well I'm a pleb right now.
 
@ACuriousMind It's weird, Weinberg's GR book is very lucid
But somehow he's a confused old man in QTF
 
Which is weird because that's what he got the nobel for
 
right
 
10:46 PM
Best intro book for GR math imo
 
is it?
why not Lee GSM
got some actual math
 
user218912
actual math is boring.
 
Actual math does not make for a very good intro
 
user218912
only the physics part of math is interesting.
 
@ACuriousMind has this chat always been so hostile
I'm putting Weinberg cosmology on my desk cuz it's so good
 
10:48 PM
@0celo7 I don't see any hostility.
Except from you directed at Weinberg, that is :P
 
my desk is being overrun by books :o
 
Callahan is pretty good because it starts with accelerated frames in SR and then embedded curved surfaces
Not a lot of actual GR but it prepares the way nicely
 
11:26 PM
@ACuriousMind help are you still there?
I have a delta potential
$V(x)=-\alpha\delta(x)$
 
I'll give you Steenrod for that delta potential
Mail it to me
 
They want me to compute the discontinuity of the derivative of an eigenfunction
in terms of $\alpha,m$ and $u(0)$, but won't it depend on $E$ too?
 
11:42 PM
^disregard
@bloo learning anything good in Carroll?
 
Carroll has exactly one closed timelike curve
pretty weak imo
 
yikes
 
It's not even a standard example
It's some weird fake spacetime thing
 
oh well that's good?
what's a fake spacetime
implying Godel isn't fake
 
Godel is at least based on a physical model
Rotating dust
 
user218912
11:59 PM
@0celo7 not yet, working on QFT right now.
 

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