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obe
12:00 AM
idk how he concluded that
from where
random?
 
what
that's the simplest quadratic Lagrangian!
I don't see the issue
 
obe
why is it the simplest?
 
find me a simpler one?
 
obe
...ok.
so he defined it to be that?
 
he's telling you that's the simplest one
 
obe
12:01 AM
it isn't derived from somewhere right?
 
it is the simplest one
well...not the way he did it
 
obe
ok i see.
i'm fine now.
well i didn't understand how to simplify the integral.
or did i
 
if you have the KG equation and interpret $b$ as the mass squared...it can be derived
 
obe
i see so that's how the mass term got there.
 
simplify the integral?
 
obe
12:03 AM
what about the del in the hamiltonian?
 
just vary the action and verify that you get $(\Box+m^2)\phi=0$
 
obe
like the integral for the hamiltonian of the creation and annihilation operators?
he got an infinity after simplifying it though didn't show the steps.
"the infinity doesn't mean anything"
 
slow down
the del in the Hamiltonian
so you know how to get the conjugate momenta and
do that transform
er...Legendre?
 
obe
and it will give del?
yeah
 
yeah note that del is just the spatial part of the spacetime gradient
 
obe
12:05 AM
right.
 
like $\partial_\mu=(\partial_t,\nabla)$
 
obe
how do you pronounce $\partial_\mu$?
 
d mu
 
obe
right.
i heard someone say something else.
nvm.
 
perhaps, I'm self taught
next question
 
obe
12:06 AM
i'm fine... just need to review the notes a bit.
if i slack off though i'm screwed.
should do the problem set.
 
so you get who the infinite term in the Hamiltonian doesn't matter
 
obe
yeah.
 
why
 
obe
normal ordered product
it disappears
 
that's too formal
 
obe
12:09 AM
like you can define the zero energy state somewhere else
 
the physical reason is to say that we can only measure energy differences
 
obe
not at 0.
 
yeah
 
obe
differences? he didn't say that.
 
and in energy differences the term $\delta(0)$ will always fall out
 
obe
12:09 AM
wait he did i wrote it down.
nvm, thanks.
 
so we just adjust the lowest energy by $\delta(0)$
please post the notes
I don't have them on this OS
 
obe
let me find them.
@0celo7 here
 
thanks
 
 
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1:15 AM
NbCeID 12
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150923133508.htm

What else can we do to manipulate the phase of the wavefunction of other particles, and what else can we achieve besides tuning orbital angular momentum?
 
...when your fucking roommate starts playing LoL when you're doing homework
 
obe
aloud?
 
Is he a psychopath
YES
 
obe
LoL. lol.
 
Talking to people. I'm sitting here reading! I was reading when he entered the room!
 
obe
1:17 AM
perhaps psychotic. detached from reality.
or careless.
disrespectful... he doesn't like you?
 
He hasn't said anything
Are you doing the problem set -.-
It's a lack of empathy. He is unable to place himself in my shoes and see why his actions are detrimental. @obe what are some mental illnesses characterized by a lack of empathy?
 
You should politely talk to him.
He's probably lonely.
 
What?
He's playing LoL with his friends back home.
His argument will just be "you can go to the study room"
Which I did
 
obe
@0celo7 Idk really, I'm sure it is a side effect of a lot of illnesses.
reminds me i'm really into this psychology business.
 
@obe If you want the title of Canadian mini DSM, you'll get me that list
 
obe
1:28 AM
time to learn advanced psychology. which book?
@0celo7 Believe me I wrote a DSM-5 a few weeks back.
 
Doubtful
Diagnose that weird kid in physics
 
obe
I have neurological disambiguation disorder and depression by DSM-5.
:(
 
Damn Canadians
 
obe
I am already diagnosed... will I be able to diagnose others?
 
To "write" something
Means to WRITE it
 
obe
1:32 AM
write what?
lol
 
You don't write a test unless you actually come up with the words on the test
You did not WRITE the DSM
You TOOK the test
 
obe
dammit.
:<
 
What is "neurological disambiguation disorder"
 
obe
idk really.
 
Phone Google skills come up empty
 
obe
1:35 AM
It generalizes synesthesia.
and other things.
only in dsm-5.
 
So you're an alien
 
obe
I guess.
 
The eyes in your new avatar look pscho :P
 
obe
now you know why I'm really skilled at building stable orbits.
@skillpatrol It's from a game, persona 3.
 
cool
 
1:39 AM
I've heard good things about persona
 
Me too.
 
obe
it's cool.
 
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem as if I'll ever be able to play another game if my progress in getting Kerbals to the Mun stays this abysmal.
2
 
obe
it's weird.
@ACuriousMind how long have you been playing?
 
@obe "only" 11 hours so far
(not all today)
 
1:45 AM
dude
even 11 hours in a day isn't bad
I guarantee I got that many in a day when I got GTA5
> 11 hours
@obe I'm up for skyping this problem set with you now
I have 1.75 hours
 
obe
@0celo7 sure that would be really cool.
 
voice chat
I want to be able to play GTA
 
obe
I am unsure if my mic works.
hmm.
 
::sigh::
 
obe
like I can hear my voice playback on the computer though in skype it's not loud enough.
 
1:51 AM
send us something
 
obe
I don't trust other people with my voice.
except you, acm, flp and gonenc.
 
what the fuck does that mean
 
obe
who knows.
 
::plays GTA:: let me know when you've fixed...whatever it is that's broken
 
obe
it works.
ehh....
of course you won't hear me.
 
2:05 AM
NbCeID 13
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150921112729.htm

Thermal cloak again
 
obe
2:16 AM
 
2:37 AM
I just love academia.edu links.
Because they could be imagined to give a superficial gloss of respectability to papers either unpublished or published in faux journals they actually end up functioning as a channel marker for off-the-beaten path ideas.
That is, mostly junk.
Of course, claiming to predict or explain absolutely everything except the whether is another subtle hint.
 
@ACuriousMind can you obtain the Lorentz condition directly from the Proca lagrangian
I'd have to invoke degrees of freedom of a 4vector need to be cut down to 3
 
@0celo7 The "Lorentz condition"?
I'm not sure what you mean
 
user54412
2:53 AM
"I'm sorry ma'am, it appears you have an acute Lorentz condition."
 
@ACuriousMind div A = 0
 
user54412
"As is clearly stated in Article 3, Section 2 of the Lorentz Conditions..."
 
@0celo7 That's the Lorenz gauge
 
user54412
"I hate it when my Lorentz conditioning breaks in the middle of a heat wave."
3
 
"I hereby agree to these Lorentz terms and Lorentz conditions."
 
2:55 AM
@ACuriousMind I know
 
@0celo7 Why did you say "Lorentz condition" then?!
 
obe
Because of me.
 
Although proca has no gauge symmetry
 
@HDE226868 Careful...have you even read through the vanishing terms?
 
Or does it
 
2:56 AM
@0celo7 It depends:
 
@ACuriousMind Ah, I found a different way to complete the pun. Turns out the Lorentz factor has a second name.
 
If you take it as the equation of motion for a massive spin-1 field which just...is massive, then the "Lorenz gauge" is not a gauge choice, but just an equation of motion/constraint that has to be implemented
If the mass of the spin-1 field is generated by an Abelian (or Stueckelberg) Higgs mechanism, then this is indeed a kind of gauge choice, and the Stueckelberg action was gauge invariant (albeit under $\mathbb{R}$, not $\mathrm{U}(1)$)
 
Stueckelbuckle
 
Yeah, obe's problem set doesn't want the second option
 
Ah, you're asking how one gets the Lorenz gauge equation from the E-L equation of the Proca action?
 
3:04 AM
Yes
 
Well, you take the Proca E-L equation, and you separate it into two equations - since there appear two different indices on the $A$.
One of these equations is the Lorenz gauge equation, the other is: $(\partial_\mu\partial^\mu - \text{const})A^\nu = 0$
 
Playing GTA while doing physics doesn't work
I'm gonna look at the EL equation
That might help
 
Good luck with that, I'm off to bed.
 
weakling
it's only 5am
@ACuriousMind welcome back
@ACuriousMind er, how do you separate the EL equations like that
@ACuriousMind yeah I don't understand why you can separate them
 
3:26 AM
@0celo7 Ah, "separate" was the wrong word. You can differentiate the E-L equation once more to make two of the three terms vanish, and what's left is the Lorenz gauge.
Plugging that back into the original equation, you get the 4-vector version of the K-G equation.
 
@ACuriousMind figured that out while changing
That's a pre-sleep idea
Who knows what I'll figure out while actually sleeping.
 
4:09 AM
Small question: If I have a chemical reaction that occur when I mix reagents A and B together without any extra heat or light input, is the reason in the physical scale why the reaction happens using conservation of energy is that the electronic energy of the reacting molecules can become lower after the reaction?

That is, one in chemistry will say the energy needed for the reaction is chemical energy, but besides the electronic energy of the electrons in the molecules, what other energy types are involved in chemical energy?
 
 
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5:17 AM
@dmckee subtle indeed :-)
 
 
1 hour later…
6:43 AM
bah....not convinced at all
 
 
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8:20 AM
Hey
 
G'day
 
G'day m8
 
:D
 
 
3 hours later…
11:24 AM
Good morning
 
hey
 
Hey is what horses eat
 
No that would be grain
 
11:44 AM
::sigh::
what would the French know about farming, anyway
 
We are 1-1 for the first time in 13 years
RISE my nation RISE
 
@obe the problem set disappeared
@yuggib QM is becoming a meme in this chat
@obe is the $N$ in the coherent state an overall factor or the number operator?
 
12:10 PM
> It was a big deal last year when Konev and Lisitsa used a SAT-solver to prove that there’s always a subsequence with discrepancy at least 3; Tao’s result now improves on that bound by ∞.
That's some improvement
 
Why not 2 times that
 
12:26 PM
Is chemical energy fundamentally just electrostatics between electrons and nuclei in the molecules or between molecules, or is there more to that?
 
@0celo7 It's a physics chat. How could that be a "meme" and not "frequent discussion topic"?
 
1:00 PM
@ACuriousMind because
 
obe
@0celo7 The site lags sometimes.
damn I'm late for relativity.
cya
 
1:48 PM
Travel really, really fast and you'll get there on time by your watch :P
 
once again the media (and our glorious president) completely blow something out of proportion
 
Indeed.
 
2:04 PM
@skillpatrol wait, are you talking about that article or the original situtation
 
@0celo7 this
 
@skillpatrol no, the original situation should have never made national news
kid gets arrested for bomb hoax. done.
 
Btw can you believe I just had to down load iOS 9.0.1
 
that article is a glimmer of insight into his family
 
Strange kid.
 
2:08 PM
indeed. takes a clock apart, puts it in a metal box, zip ties it and makes it go off during class
on 9/12
10/10 intelligence there
definitely MIT and NASA worthy
 
From Texas?
 
don't know
 
Yep, Texas high school
 
why does that matter
 
The same state that a turban wearing Indian was shot at a gas station right after the real 9/11
So, yes it does matter to his family
 
2:15 PM
got it.
so all people in Texas are racists.
 
No. But odds are...
 
you have some numbers on that?
otherwise it's a completely ridiculous argument
 
nvm, your debating skills are too highly polished now that you're a university man :D
 
you can't just say "Texans are racist" and use this to claim his arrest was unjust
it was a bomb hoax.
he did not make that clock, his engineering teacher told him not to show it to anyone and then he made it go off on class!
 
All I'm saying is stuff like that seems to always happen in the confederate states, nothing more nothing less.
 
2:20 PM
"Bomb hoax" implies malicious intent methinks... but I think we'd agree. Someone in my middle school got arrested/homeland security got involved, because he made an electromagnet that looked an awful lot like a pipe bomb (~2005?).
 
suppose I come to school looking like this
should I get punished?
 
Not in Texas
 
ignore the state
 
@0celo7 okay. I'm out.
 
Later pal
 
2:23 PM
that's just obnoxious
 
not really.
why is a ghost costume obnoxious
 
Wasn't it Louisiana they hung a black doll on a tree at Halloween?
 
you're great at stereotyping @skillpatrol
this group of racists did some thing so the whole state must be fucked
 
4 mins ago, by skill patrol
All I'm saying is stuff like that seems to always happen in the confederate states, nothing more nothing less.
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
 
you still haven't answered my question
should I be allowed to wear my ghost costume
 
2:27 PM
Try it this Halloween
That^ will be your answer
:P
real world experimental evidence
 
you're implying that I'd get the shit beat out of me
but it's a ghost costume!
I made it for home ec!
it's showcasing my sewing skills!
 
Ghosts don't have pointed heads.
 
I mis-sewed
 
Tell that to the judge :P
I'm not going to judge you.
 
judge?
so I'm going to get arrested?
for what? having a ghost costume?
 
2:34 PM
If a fight breaks out you're on your own pal.
iirc they ended up chopping that tree down in Louisiana
16 mins ago, by skill patrol
Wasn't it Louisiana they hung a black doll on a tree at Halloween?
To prevent future incidents
 
why not use a different tree for future doll lynchings?
chopping down the tree makes no sense
@skillpatrol once again, school policy, not angry mob policy
 
But it was on school property
They didn't want to deal with it in the future
 
still coughing up stuff
this is a hardy sickness
 
Go to the clinic
 
wtf I already did!
I still have 2 days of antibiotics left
and like a gallon of cough syrup
which doesn't work
well it does work but I cough twice as bad when it wears off
 
2:49 PM
Tell them that
 
and my throat gets clogged full of stuff
I really don't have time to go
I'm leaving for NC at 4
won't be back until sometime Sunday
 
The antibiotics should have kicked in by now
 
they have
I feel a lot better
but now I'm producing mucus like a mofo
all that crap is dying
 
Make time for your health
You need rest.
Enough said.
 
did the chat just die there
or was that just me
I think I'll pick up a pack of mucinex
 
2:55 PM
Have you talked to a pharmacist?
 
no
there might be conflicts
I don't have time to go to the pharmacy
 
-__-
 
you can say "make time" all you want but I can't make time...
 
Think about the long run...
 
http://nuclear.ucdavis.edu/~tgutierr/files/sml.pdf
turning this
http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2010/02/14/lets-draw-feynman-diagams/
to this
How did Feymann get such idea?
 
2:58 PM
...what if it gets worse?
 
yeah, I skip class, get an F on an assignment, miss the trip, drop out of college
 
Okay if you aren't 90% better in two days you must take some time off.
Go to a doctor and get some real advice.
Not some stranger on the internet :P
 
3:14 PM
Two days I'll be in another state :O
 
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Plan accordingly @0celo7
 
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No you fool
Don't mention the Einstein-de Haas effect
It will attract unwanted attention
 
For some people any attention is wanted attention.
Especially on the internet.
 
3:29 PM
i'm having lotsof fun with riemann curvature tensors
oh boy. i love covariant differentiation...
q.q
 
4:11 PM
@NeuroFuzzy covariant differentiation is the best
 
4:22 PM
(missed question 1)
Is chemical energy fundamentally just electrostatics between electrons and nuclei in the molecules or between molecules, or is there more to that?

The reason to double check on this understanding is to understand how the energetics are contributed by physics phnomenon. Unless I have overlooked something about electronic states, isn't the energy from a chemical reactions is due to the electrons in the orbitals being able to be achieved a loser energy by gaining strong columbic attraction to the nuclei of the atoms in the molecules as the chemical reaction rearrange the m
 
@Rigor what??
 
If your sickness gets worse in two days have a backup plan @0celo7
 
4:39 PM
hypothetically speaking if I asked a question, it got answered and then for some reason I wanted to delete that question, would it be possible to do so?
 
@skillpatrol like??
 
@AngusTheMan not if there's an upvoted answer.
 
shotgun retirement?
 
@AngusTheMan you would have to get a mod involved and have a good reason; though they can also anonymize the question if you just want your name off it
 
@0celo7 like finding a doctor
 
4:42 PM
@MikeEdenfield how would I go about getting my name off it?
 
@AngusTheMan flag the question for moderator attention and explain what you want.
 
Cheers thank you :)
 
I've never done it, only seen it done, so I don't know how much is involved
 
I see, well ... I'll give it a go :)
 
> hypothetically speaking
guess it wasn't so hypothetical after all
 
4:46 PM
@0celo7 hahah not at all ;)
 
(missed question 2)
@skillpatrol can you help me on that question?
 
I have no clue what @skillpatrol's expertise is in
and he refuses to let me know
 
5:12 PM
so a guy told me objects cannot move if space is not quantized
his "reasoning": without quantization there would be an infinite number of positions between any distance, and we can never reach infinity, so objects cannot move any distance
 
That's known as Zeno's paradox.
 
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