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02:31
@ACuriousMind I'm reasonably sure that we have two regular users who simply cast contrary votes on anything (or nearly so) they see downvoted in a way that they attribute to the cabal of high rep users.
If that is true there is nothing to be done about it except wait and hope that they get bored and go away.
 
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05:19
@dmckee Well, there is something to be done about it: use your votes liberally (cc @ACuriousMind)
which is probably good general advice for an SE site
 
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11:07
hey @DavidZ and/or other mods: Is it allowed to have multiple accounts ?
Yeah, it's fine
What's not allowed is to have them vote for the same post, or vote for each others' posts, or anything else that you wouldn't be allowed to do with only one account
(I converted that post to a comment since it wasn't an answer)
 
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Jim
Jim
15:22
So I have an admirer of sorts. I'm pretty sure he's been upvoting all of my posts and he asks me to weigh in on all of his posts even when I make it clear that the subject is outside of my area of expertise. Thoughts? Questions? Suggestions?
To be honest, it's all getting a bit uncomfortable, but I don't want to be mean to the guy
@Jim Ignore
Well, after stating that it's outside your expertise
Jim
Jim
I did ignore for a while. But now he constantly pings me when he thinks there's something I should see on anther post. And he's rising to become a common contributor
All because I was nice when he first started. Maybe I should start being mean to all new users
@Jim Uh...would it be mean to just say that you don't like to be pinged on stuff outside your area of expertise? (That is, don't just state that it is outside, but that you're not interested. Or did you already do that?)
Jim
Jim
No clue
I don't think it'd be mean
Jim
Jim
15:34
I do know that he's the one who's been serial upvoting me strategically to avoid the automatic reversal
That's pretty smart of him
I recall some SE team member stating that whenever someone thought they "knew" a serial voter, they almost always either had the wrong person in mind or there wasn't such a voter at all
Jim
Jim
So 3 votes a day within a minute of each other on random old answers isn't strategic serial upvoting?
he used to leave a comment "Nice post Jim, +1" on all of them before I told him to stop serial voting
@Jim Ok, then it's pretty obvious
However, this is a few weeks ago, right? Because your recent reputation history doesn't show that pattern
(Yes, I went looking)
Jim
Jim
Yeah, it was a little while ago. But 2 days ago he did another 3
15:39
I see
Jim
Jim
I assume it was to throw me off the scent
But paranoia will not be fooled by anyone
Yeah, well, you can't do much about a groupie ;)
Jim
Jim
On an unrelated note, I posted a meta.SE post asking to change Guru to a gold badge, anyone want to discuss why that's a bad idea?
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Q: Can we make Guru a Gold badge?

JimBefore you rush to say "No, that's a terrible idea! We have it as silver for a reason and you're going to accept that reason or else we'll taunt you a second time!" listen to my reasoning first. So we have three tiers of badges for number of votes on an answer; Nice/Good/Great Answer for 10/25/1...

@Jim Not a bad idea at all, this has irked me, too
Though I wouldn't have phrased it as "[...]it will fill a void I think many people feel is glaringly present." :D
Jim
Jim
true, it's probably just me that sees it as glaring
I'm open to suggestions
15:53
Apparently not well received ^^
It seems for all the discussion of the Fastest Gun In The West problem people still want to encourage fast answers
Which puzzles me, because if we want to be "a knowledge base", your contributions shouldn't be praised more just because they were fast
The point about "building off existing answers" makes a kind of sense, though
Interesting arXiv preprint: Crowdfunding Outreach Programs (specifically for astronomy, but probably applicable to all fields)
 
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Jim
Jim
17:04
@ACuriousMind you can build off answers even if you were the fastest gun in the west
I never understood what the difference was. I don't like it when people do that, but we have to accept that people do use placeholders and they can still improve based on answers other post later
So the timing of the answer is kind of diluted in importance. Once you make posting first desirable, that doesn't reward early posters so much as it does encourage the fastest gun in the west attitude
What does "placeholder answer" mean?
Like typing "asdfkjhsad" and hitting enter
then answering?
Jim
Jim
Yeah, I'm not sure anymore
Or just, "No, that's not right, it's A"
then answering
The latter seems to be an accepted practice and the former seems to not at all exist in my experience
Jim
Jim
I usually use them as "this is just a placeholder, but in short this is how it works..." And then I write the long version and replace it with that
And that, in my opinion, is an acceptable practice
Jim
Jim
17:15
I would agree. But I also agree that the non-existent "abfglsfopjd" placeholders are unacceptable
Though, thinking about it, is it really a terrible practice
I mean, it's obvious that someone doing that is intentionally doing that so as to get a particular badge
The point of the badges is to get them, right?
So is it really terrible a thing to write "dsaf;hl" and then answer it correctly (and completely) in the next few minutes?
OP gets their answer, answerer gets their badge
Jim
Jim
I'm not sure what the point of normal badges is. Tag badges give you privileges I believe
But "jhksbdbef" is terrible because it is selfish
If someone else gets an answer in first, then they answered first. But then, I don't see the point in rewarding timing of answers anyway
except answers to old questions
that timing is rewardable
Yeah, timing rewards doesn't really seem like a good idea, IMO
 
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18:49
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Q: Is it possible to calculate the length of a tube if the 'near' diameter and 'far' diameter are known?

Joe O'TooleWhen looking down and through a length of tube, the 'far' diameter is less than than that diameter that is closest to the viewer's eye. If, for example, the tube's internal diameter is measured at 80mm and (again, as an example) the internal diameter of the tube that is farthest away (the other ...

On-topic? It seems like H&E.
Does seem awfully, "can you do this for me"
 
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21:07
@Jim The only tag badges that give you privileges are the gold badges that grant you the dupe hammer
awwwyis, MODMODE ENABLED
@Danu ALL HAIL THE DIAMOND!
@Danu: Congrats, I see you took the job :)
Yesh, yesh I did
21:21
So now what are your plans? I mean, how do you mean to achieve global world domination?
Also: the prevalence of theorists on this site sucks when I answer numerical/computational-oriented questions
@KyleKanos: Why?
@JamalS zero votes
:D
@KyleKanos Hang on
@KyleKanos First, I will eradicate my political opponents
Yay, votes
On numerical questions
21:24
@KyleKanos: Oh, I wonder who that could be...
@JamalS Also: I'm not sure how Hermite basis functions are derived for cubic Hermite splines
@JamalS Probably some stalker
@KyleKanos: Yeah, I think you've acquired a stalker that's going to make sure you don't feel under-appreciated.
@Danu And then?
@KyleKanos: What shape functions would you use for a 1D Euler-Bernoulli beam?
@JamalS Just what I need for my ego!
21:26
@KyleKanos Overthrow the reigning class
@KyleKanos: I've tried just using bubble functions, but the result is nothing like the analytic solution
@Danu And then?
(FYI: The load is a Gaussian load.)
@JamalS No idea,
@KyleKanos Have you executed for annoying questions
21:26
@Danu And then?
BOOM
@Danu: I challenge you to a chess game!
@JamalS Ok. Got an account on chess.com?
Yes, I'm FeynmanJS :)
lmao
sent you a friend request
21:30
Chess
Real thinkers play Go
(or Reversi, if you prefer)
^lol. Classic go player, so condescending :D
@KyleKanos: I play Go too :)
I actually learnt to play it before Chess
I actually prefer Speed Go. You have 0.5 seconds per move
I prefer chess because there are much more interesting things one can achieve by having different pieces collaborate, IMO
It makes the computer much tougher
21:33
@Danu: 15 | 10?
you gotta go to Live Chess
sorry, no time for long games like that right now
@Danu: Oh, I don't like Blitz...
Some other time then
oh, ok
I really rarely have time for longer games these days
@Danu: How long have you been playing Chess?
About 2 years
quite intensively, but self-taught
21:44
0
Q: Is it theoretically possible to obtain the knowledge of a formally-educated without formal education?

Margaret RosaI was debating this with someone and they told me this is a good place to discuss theories. I am asking in regards to obtaining the knowledge within the realm and range of one who took 8 years or more of study, primarily to be a medical doctor (M.D.) or Physician in the United States. The quest...

That is actually kind of interesting that the person chose the tag
@KyleKanos Lols, neat
22:28
Annnnd there goes the last close vote again
Also, I cast 10 down- and 1 upvote today. Am I too mean?
@Danu: You will like this ;)
22:47
:D perfect
Honestly, you may actually be too mean... no offense :P
Not mean, per se, but strict
23:03
@ACuriousMind nah, you are just being prudent and looking out for the site - no meanness involved
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user54412
23:31
I really don't get bots like this. I mean, this can't be an actual person just mindlessly copy-pasting stuff into a text field, right?
user54412
But the alternative, that someone programed a bot to mindlessly copy-paste stuff around on the internet, doesn't make any more sense.

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