The Loop

userabuser

04:06

@toscho See what happens when I don't answer questions!

kaiser

10:20

Same goes for me. Currently there's too less time to go on answering...

Rarst

ah, BS :) I answered when I was at my busiest and not answered when I had nothing at all to do

toscho

exactly

userabuser

It's different, when you work for someone else its on their dime :) When you work for yourself it can be more difficult when your projects increase...

toscho

You can at leats vote each time you read a post.

userabuser

...assuming I read them :/

I need to get back into a groove... once you get momentum going you can probably keep up a reasonable answer rate.

kaiser

10:25

Voting? I do.

Funny __construct()

userabuser

nice ASCII art

Tom J Nowell

@userabuser yeah, I tend to have fits and bursts of rep

userabuser

yup..

One of you sugar daddy rep whores should donate some to me though...

toscho

You can get all the rep I lost due to rep cap. :)

userabuser

Where do I collect it? :)

toscho

10:40

That’s difficult, because they are double-virtual.

userabuser

Sounds like quantum physics

Tom J Nowell

Toschian Dynamics*

kaiser

10:56

General Toschian©

Rarst

read this tweet (retweeted by scribu) and almost choked on tea twitter.com/gamerz/statuses/327226675047833600 :)))

Tom J Nowell

lesterchan, and actual development progress?

Rarst

no, read the tweet. "Plugins Repo Moved to Github" :)

Tom J Nowell

yeah I got that part

I thought lester chan had ceased all development after getting hired or something

Rarst

the plugin repo, not a plugin repo

Tom J Nowell

11:12

yes I got it, my comment on him and development is a general Lester Chan comment not a tweet specific one

Rarst

ok. I am just getting to my tea, not full brain power :)

Tom J Nowell

Im on my second

userabuser

@Rarst White Tea, Green Tea, Black Tea or Red Tea?

Rarst

@userabuser black

userabuser

Ahh proper English then!

toscho

11:24

Let’s make pagination off topic.

userabuser

Sure.

kaiser

And rewrite rules as well.

userabuser

May as well include WP_Query, that one is annoying.

Rarst

"...in controversial move WordPress Stack Exchange declared WordPress off topic"

6

userabuser

Politics.

kaiser

11:39

@Rarst :D

we should rename our site to ********* StackExchange.

userabuser

@Rarst Send that out in a tweet for some amusement.

Rarst

meh, won't work out of context

userabuser

@Rarst Most people don't even know what "context" is, so don't worry about that.

kaiser

userabuser

Omar Borkan Al Gala was kicked out of Saudi Arabia because the government was afraid women wouldn't be able to control themselves around him.

haha

Rarst

12:13

can't get good idea how to proxy all of WP stuff into Composer format... it doesn't do dynamic exchange (submit package name, recevie packages data) so need to generate static for ALL of it... so need to crawl (and re-crawl) ALL of it... which will end up in Otto doing bad things to me.

kaiser

where bad things can't be anything aside from words... what a pitty.

Rarst

ban my VPS IP and thing (to-Composer-converter) is dead

kaiser

You need to do it client side (love that phrase) ;) ... in other words: Write a plugin, share it and people who use it will do that for you.

Rarst

so instead of me doing crawling once there are bunch of people doing it? there aren't enough shit list points for that

kaiser

Isn't distributed official repo crawling the reason why got plugins? Call the plugin WP_Tor_Crawler :D

And try to get it into the official repo.

Rarst

12:29

you know I do things to actually get something done, not to screw with core folks... :)

kaiser

Make it a Ninja Operation: Use new account for wp dot org, add new account on GitHub, etc.

@Rarst I'm disappointed :)

@Rarst btw: couldn't you crawl through TOR network?

toscho

@Rarst Can’t you just reuse your existing login-botnet?

Rarst

@toscho you are confusing me with some other just denizens :)

kaiser

@Rarst Short PHPStorm question. Inside a class method I got a comment line starting with @see. But everything I tried returns with Cannot find declaration to go to: @see MethodName() | $this->MethodName() | ClassName::MethodName(). Any idea how this works?

When I just throw it in the phpDocBlock it works with just the MethodName().

Rarst

phpDocumentor spec says class::methodname(), works for me?..

kaiser

12:42

@Rarst Inside a method?

Rarst

what do you mean inside?

kaiser

public function ABC()
{
    // @see XYZ()
}

public function XYZ()
{
    // @see ABC()
}

Rarst

that's not valid PHPDoc

kaiser

I know, but PHPStorm 6 tries to resolve the target, so I thought it might work.

Rarst

/** @see WP_Query::get_posts() */

kaiser

12:45

@Rarst works. thanks!

Rarst

13:00

PhpStorm even autocompletes this form of tags so not even more typing

kaiser

13:17

Not too sure how reliable measuring of a levensthein distance based on metaphonetic comparison is in languages like Mandarin.

Ok. That sentence is over-the-top-nerd. hehe...

> My solution is universal like for core php developer also.

- jaybharatjay on the WP dot org plugins forums

@StephenHarris In case you got that message...

Rarst

13:51

I so much dig that I can just add third party composer-unaware git repo to my composer one and just have it work

not perfect (only works per-package = for each version separately), but it works

toscho

♫ No rep today, the fun has gone away …

Rarst

14:08

hm, it seems like dynamic composer repo might be doable with providers-url but don't get how it works yet... :)

Rarst

14:18

curious convo on twitter - does singular page need Loop

toscho

no?

kaiser

14:47

You should really try and use this backlink search engine based on WP: http://nutritionbomb.com/seo-tools/wordpress-backlink-search-engine/

works soooo well :)

Rarst

@toscho wp com theme guidelines say needs full loop. I can't think of anything other than loop hooks won't fire otherwise...

toscho

@Rarst depends on your definition of a loop

Is array_walk() a loop?

Rarst

> Full loops must be used in all templates. Just calling the_post() in a template like single.php or page.php is not enough.

I assume they mean while(have_posts())the_post()

toscho

eurgh

The while is nonsense

have_posts();
the_post();

userabuser

15:22

@toscho Why doesn't WP_Query class define functions with visibility, public, protected, private? Are they just being sloppy or what?

ok never mind.. this is antiquated code

Stack Exchange

15:44

0

Q: Bug in the Tag Wiki edit form

There is a minor bug in the tag wiki edit form. In FireFox on Debian, the "excerpt" box is partially covered by the right hand sidebar. It makes editing the excerpt a bit annoying as you can't see part of the content.

bug

Rarst

15:58

hmmm.... chicken/egg - need sha256 to request composer file, so need it in advance and can't form dynamically

userabuser

hmm perhaps you are screwed...

toscho

try all possible values

Rarst

16:28

created issue Composer repository with dynamic response without pre-crawling sources?

Sisir

16:56

can anyone recommend my any plugin framework which allows creating plugins quickly and good format for option pages? I like option page with tabs

I am searching on github now..

Rarst

@Sisir scbFramework

Sisir

@Rarst from scribu?

Rarst

that's what scb means, yes...

Sisir

documentation looks good.. checking it out now..

Rarst

17:35

broke a tea pot... don't expect brain activity from me tomorrow

bosco

@Rarst cowboy-coffee style yo. Go loose-leaf in a sauce pan and dump it through a coffee filter. I'm not saying you shouldn't mourn your teapot, but it doesn't mean you have to skip the tea!

Rarst

I guess I could make it in [0.7l] cup twice for same dosage...

Sisir

$tea_pot = new TeaPot; // you have a new one now! :)

Rarst

17:53

if only... I am also blocked at home by crazy hair - no hot water :\ weekend is not looking up

kaiser

I found out that the Russian Federation has 21 "independent" republics. Maybe @Rarst wants to choose some new place where hot water actually exists? ;)

Rarst

I don't live in Russia, you ignorant Australian

:D

kaiser

hehe

Rarst

also I live in the capital... as far as this country goes this is the top of food chain :\

Rarst

18:13

screwed with Composer :( will have to crawl if doing it...

Sisir

18:36

how do i pass saved option data..

scb plugin framework.. pastebin.com/9bccjzFJ

Tom J Nowell

@Sisir that's not a gist?!

Sisir

??

scbFramework plugin on wp reop is it suppose to be installed and activated? its ends up with fatal error..

Rarst

@Sisir not really, that is just example

Sisir

@Rarst okey.. but you might want to have a look at it.. when i try to activate it the require doesn't find the file causing fatal error..

Rarst

what do I care? go bug scribu :)

Sisir

18:47

:P I see your face on the plugin page..

Rarst

it's on github with issue tracking and stuff

that was my punishment for contributing style and extract() cleanups in several classes :)

kaiser

19:41

@ALL Any idea how I could reliably check if a the current query as well was a tax_query?

Rarst

@kaiser check if property in query object is set?..

kaiser

What I got so far:

empty( $GLOBALS['wp_query']->tax_query->queries )
get_query_var( 'taxonomy' )
foreach ( get_object_taxonomies( get_query_var( 'post_type' ) ) as $tax )
{
    if ( '0' !== get_query_var( $tax ) )
        $flag = true;
}

Not sure which one is most reliable.

Rarst

22:23

@Rarst FirstWordProblems. Duh.

Tweeted by ipstenu on April 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM in reply to Rarst

coined and hereby to be used as "first world problems in WordPress" context! :)

Tom J Nowell

JetPack for iOS might just be the most addictive thing ever.

Tweeted by WrongPete on April 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Rarst

Jetpack Joyride?

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