The Loop

Aahan Krish

03:11

Weird, I see no option to edit this post: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/56139/…

Is that because I just edited a post? Is this come kind of "flood control" over edits? or just me?

Ajay Patel

07:04

0

Q: Common user login with session for WP & WPMU.

I have one WP and another is WPMU installation. I want to make common user login with session. I have solved by common login with db. //table name use in two wordpress define('CUSTOM_USER_TABLE', 'wp1_users'); define('CUSTOM_USER_META_TABLE', 'wp1_usermeta'); Its works for common user login, ...

Any one please help me

@toscho Do you know the solution for this wordpress.stackexchange.com/q/56152/12261

userabuser

@Rarst Let me know if you need some help with names for your plugin because I am working on a similar project (bit more in depth than that described by where-am-i) except its a web/iphone/ipad app (not wp plugin) anyway I had come up with the same name but opted for another on a list of candidates I came up with, anyhow, there are some that didn't make the cut for my purpose which might be suitable for your purpose.

Ajay Patel

07:25

@userabuser Can you please help me '

for common user login ?

userabuser

@AjayPatel Hi, not at present as I am working on a project. Give it some time people will start to help you on site :)

Ajay Patel

@userabuser Okay Fine :)

Brady

07:39

@TomJNowell vocal trance/vocal chill out mainly

electronic music in general.

userabuser

@Brady Good man! Electronic head here too :)

userabuser

08:01

@Brady lol @ your website headline.. haha

Rarst

@userabuser I went with "This Place Is" at moment... mine has nothing to do with geo btw, thing for WP devs

userabuser

Ah ok, yeah I was trying to make sense of it on your twitter stream :)

You could also try, "Where is" or "Show me where" or "I am here" or something like that too..

Rarst

userabuser

ok got you now!

looks good, always need more good dev tools

Brady

@userabuser yeah thats when I was a kid. I don't think its fitting anymore.

the site is over 5 years old...

Rarst

08:07

@userabuser and some code needs tools more than other...

Brady

doesnt get much attention

userabuser

@Rarst No doubt!

@Brady So you're 18 now right?

Brady

@userabuser huh?

userabuser

Obviously flew over your head...

Brady

@userabuser obviously...

userabuser

08:09

5 years ago you were a kid. So I said you're 18 now, making you 13 at the time, what I'd call a kid.

Brady

I call a kid someone that is not of a legal age :P

as in 18 ;)

so turning 18 then 5 years would make me 23. which I am :)

userabuser

or that...

youngster

Brady

And I did say over 5 years ;)

userabuser

well that could have been 5 years and 1 day which is still over 5 years..

Do you fit in with anybody yet? Chat misfits excluded

Brady

08:31

@userabuser yeah Ive had girlfriends since then ;)

College and University were lonely times for me

Do an electrical and electronic engineering course means there are no women in your class

userabuser

@Brady The price you pay to earn the big bucks

Brady

@userabuser urm... I wouldnt say big bucks

my career is in web development

userabuser

oh.. in that case you're poor like the rest of us.

Brady

electrical and electronic engineering is a fallback if I get bored of web dev

It doesnt bother me. I earn more than everyone that I went to college with

most of the people I went to uni with too

userabuser

Web dev only gets boring (I find) if you are not able to work on projects of your own, or further your learning... I suffered this problem a while back and then decided to shift my focus to personal web projects

was taking the piss on income, web dev can pay nicely

Brady

08:36

@userabuser Yeah I'm starting to get bored at work. Ive been here just over 2 years now

userabuser

eg. a close friend of mine just got another 200k pa dev job...

Brady

@userabuser nice

userabuser

@Brady That usually happens to the types of people who are really creative, usually entrepreneur types

lkraav

what's "pa dev"

userabuser

pa = per anum (per year)

but thats working as an employee not for himself

JavaScript developer

Brady

08:38

@userabuser not me. I have no creative bone in me

I'm just a do'er not a creator

well i do create things but its always someone elses vision ;)

userabuser

ah, you just havent given yourself the opportunity yet thats all...

got to go for a bit back later...

Brady

@userabuser problem is I don't have many personal challenges in my life that can be fixed by code.

The only challenge I have is I need more money to get a property that I can call my own.

lkraav

@userabuser word, impressive. what area?

Tom J Nowell

09:27

Morning

@Rarst this looks useful, where can I find it?

anu

09:41

Opinions about TinyMCE or ckEditor for comment editing wysiwgness? Particularly concerned about mobile usability. Was using redactor, but it's quite broken for iOS

userabuser

@lkraav E-commerce, data visualization, real time development and a number of areas. Though JS is not the only area of expertise. Some really good paying jobs out there if you like to work for start ups etc.

@Brady Firstly its not about whether YOU have any personal challenges that can be fixed by code, its often about others. There's nothing wrong with doing whats already been done also, as opposed to having to be original each and every single time (common misconception). However that last statement there about you needing a property to call you own is a big enough driving force to underpin creativity, for profit or otherwise. That I know first hand...

@anu Both TinyMCE and ckEditor are highly extensible via their own APIs - I quite like both, even though I am more partial to ckEditor, I get a long with TinyMCE just fine considering the aforementioned. Are you talking about front-end comment editing?

If so, consider something like Aloha editor too!

lkraav

is this stackexchange chat engine open sourced yet?

i'm looking for a a self-hostable web chat engine to replace the crap that is skype text chat

userabuser

Don't know... though I've been playing around (as a hobby) with building my own using node.js - not that difficult if you can be bothered

I think there are some example real time chat engines you can use as starter code too

lkraav

i'm already building like 10 things, already way above my limits

:(

userabuser

There would even be other real time open source chat engines you can DL as read to go products...

lkraav

09:49

i was looking at candy-chat

this might be a good base to roll with

userabuser

haha.. sound like me... always take on more than i can handle

lkraav

yet it would also require a whole bunch of UI customizations

well yeah, with software, imagination is your only limit

and imagination really needs to be stopped :)

userabuser

yeah but at least you have a starting base to work with... ui customization ain't nothing...

lkraav

it gets you into trouble

userabuser

don't i know it :)

i resort to writing my ideas down in a book now so i can get them out of my head, kind of like a process to stay focused, it does help...

lkraav

09:51

yep, i run my own instances of trac

try to keep track of everything at least halfway

userabuser

nice

lkraav

re what area that 200k was, i was wondering about the geographical area

userabuser

Australia

But its an International company

US/AU

lkraav

wow. ok.

userabuser

guy has skill though...

lkraav

09:54

no doubt

Rarst

@TomJNowell it's barely alpha, I spent like a total of one hour on it yesterday... will probably be for official repo release

@lkraav nope. hosting chat is pain, we went with HipChat service at work

userabuser

Candy Chat is nicely documented

lkraav

oic, hipchat also acquired by atlassian huh

Rarst

grrrrrrr... PHP resolving symlinks seriously cramps it

userabuser

slow?

lkraav

10:05

@Rarst yeah i'm seriously feeling the "symlinking plugins fail" core bug too

i basically need to keep most of my critical business plugins in git, to keep track of what the regular fails are and why

Rarst

@userabuser when you have things symlinked into WP from other folder, it all resolves to external location and wreaks havoc on functions that assume it's in proper place

lkraav

symlinking is much easier than even git new-workdir

Tom J Nowell

we have a fix for junctioning with PHP 5.3 here =p

Rarst

@TomJNowell which kind of a fix?

Tom J Nowell

if things don't look right it modifies to the appropriate value

@Rarst it compares paths and the plugins_url hook

the other developer here wrote it, his plugins URL is a huge mishmash of junctioned in plugins from /trunk/ folders elsewhere on his drive

gist gist.github.com/2971872

place in your mu-plugins folder

junction not function-fix.php gist.github.com/2971872

Rarst

10:20

@TomJNowell I can and do that myself.. however it only works with some functions. plugin_basename() for example has no hook to use :(

this seems more elaborate so I will poke it later... deadline today

thanks!

Tom J Nowell

@Rarst =/ well we use it here with no issues, I'd ask but he's in a meeting right now

Rarst

@TomJNowell I had to nag Yoast about this in his plugin... he saves stuff in constants and there was no way to deal with it at all

I just performed manual plugin upgrade via SSH without thinking much into it... sitting here slightly scared of myself

anu

@userabuser cheers and yes, front end comment editing. Looked at aloha, quite heavy, dont like the ribbon, or the floating toolbar. Probably can all be customised, but too much effort. Looks like tinymce, annoyed at how broken redactor is for iOS

userabuser

@anu There were a few editors on Github I found, have you looked there too?

how bad is it broken for iOS? not possible to fix?

anu

10:35

@userabuser looking at many options, but easiest to just settle on one of the 2 most popular choices. I'm sure it's possible to fix redactor, but as it's a commercial offering, that's something the developers should do.

userabuser

true, though tinymce/ckeditor seem quite heavy for comment editing

Tom J Nowell

what're peoples opinions of the _s' theme?

anu

@TomJNowell it's a nice basic starter - built a couple of sites with it recently and it went well.

Tom J Nowell

I'm throwing away my grand designs for my new site and wanting something I can get up quickly but be extensible

anu

@userabuser aloha is similarly sized, and right now I just need something working

Tom J Nowell

10:44

@anu any pitfalls or forks I should look at?

anu

@TomJNowell nothing comes to mind - it's very bare-boned, so there's not much you need to understand. I haven't looked at any forks or frameworks (if there are any) that have been built on top of _s.

Pankaj

@userabuser Hi Thanks for your answer but still i am not able to do that i dont know what i am missing I put the code in archive.php in the loop..

		 <?php if ( get_post_meta($post->'p=93', 'pdf_link', true) ) : ?>

          <a href="<?php echo get_post_meta($post->'p=93', 'pdf_link', true) ); ?>">
          read more
          </a>

        <?php else : ?>

          <a href="<?php the_permalink(); ?>">
          read more
          </a>
        <?php endif; ?>

toscho

11:02

morning

Pankaj

very good morning

userabuser

get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true)

your code is incorrect, the example I give is what you need

Refer to my answer: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/56048/…

Pankaj

so i am supposed not to put anything in ID

@userabuser I was doing from there only

userabuser

no.. your not supposed to touch $post->ID

that gets the post ID for each post displayed as dictated by the loop

I need to go out for a little bit, I'll be back if you are still struggling I will help you more

Pankaj

okay corrected, I made it as you have shown on the example still no luck might be i m putting this in wrong file

@userabuser Okay..

userabuser

11:06

yes no doubt in wrong file

Pankaj

@userabuser Okay you go till i'll try index, archive and others

no luck surely I am doing some silly mistake.

Rarst

weird one... getting Catchable fatal error: Object of class stdClass could not be converted to string but it's absolutely string - hardcoded and source and xdebug tells it's string...

Pankaj

11:40

stuck at the second part not able to connect both :|

can anyone help me?

saltcod

12:03

EXTREMELY basic question.....almost embarrassed to even ask this....but anyway.....here goes. Lots of functions use "global $post". Is this saying, "There's a global variable out there, outside of this function called $post, go get that and we'll use it." or is it saying, "Lets create a global called $post" ?

toscho

@saltcod both

saltcod

ack. It's always both

toscho

if there is no global $post var it is created by this statement.

which is why you shouldn’t do that

if ( empty ( $GLOBALS['post'] ) ) return; is slightly better.

the best option is to get the post as a regular parameter.

saltcod

Know of a basic "$post for Beginners" ?

toscho

no

maybe I should write one …?

Stephen Harris

12:19

@saltcod More often than not you don't need to use global $post. As @toscho said its usually passed as a parameter, else you can use get_the_ID() to get it's ID.

Pankaj

help me please i am stuck confused

toscho

Don’t worry. Confusion is the natural state of every programmer.

Pankaj

I am no programmer even :|

saltcod

@StephenHarris I've been seeing it around a fair bit lately and wondered what it was up to. If I used it, I certainly wouldn't' have know why =) I think its a fairly basic/essential thing that I'm missing though

Brady

@Pankaj then there is medication for that

Pankaj

12:23

@Brady medication wont let me face my boss ;|

saltcod

@StephenHarris Thanks for your help with this yesterday too: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/56088/… I left work just as you posted it and never got back to it last night. Thanks a million.

Brady

@Pankaj yes there is. There are drugs that make you braver :)

Pankaj

anyways can some one tell me about this wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/56048/…

I am not able to do 2nd part of the answer

the guy who helped is on run and need to solve this any how..

@Brady what kind of it is?

Stephen Harris

@saltcod no worries :)

Brady

@Pankaj Cocaine, Amphetamines, and Methamphetamine

Stephen Harris

12:28

@Pankaj Have you determined you're editing the right template?

Pankaj

12:43

@StephenHarris I am putting this where loop start i.e. in index,php

i tried putting this on archive.php also

but no luck

@Brady from where i get this?

should i make a function for this specific link ?

Brady

@Pankaj from your local pharmaceutical supplier.

Pankaj

@Brady they want to know specific name

Stephen Harris

@Pankaj ok, but are you viewing the index.php template?

Pankaj

@StephenHarris Yes i am on it right now

Stephen Harris

@Pankaj so inside the loop, if you put 'This is the index template' it appears? If so put this inside the loop:

Pankaj

12:49

let me explain you the situation in short

i am showing some post on my homepage there are some read more links(excepts)I need to open a pdf on one of some of them.
as answers told me i applied custom filed form after this nothing is working for me i tried putting the code index and archive one by one but it did not worked

Stephen Harris

var_dump(get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true));

@Pankaj I'm aware - but I'm trying to determine what the problem actually is - the answer solves that, but you're having difficulty still. First you need to determine you're editing the right page. Next is to determine if you can retrieve the post meta correctly.

Pankaj

and if i use the given answer just next to my title <?php
$query = new WP_Query(array('cat'=> '4', 'posts_per_page'=> '6', 'orderby'=>'modified', 'order'=>'DESC'));
while ($query->have_posts()) : $query->the_post();?>
<strong><?php the_title();?></strong> answering code..

it shows up perfectly just next to the title

Stephen Harris

@Pankaj ok, so now the post meta?

Pankaj

in this case there are 2 read more links one from this answer code and another from function's default read more

Stephen Harris

@Pankaj ah...

Pankaj

12:53

@StephenHarris when i click on that link which is just next to my title it goes to the pdf it means it's working fine

Stephen Harris

@Pankaj ok, that wasn't clear :). In that case, you should use the excerpt_more filter

@Pankaj In fact your theme is probably using it somewhere (functions.php). Alter the callback so that it either returns the standard 'read more' link or - if the PDF post meta exists - a link to that

Pankaj

first read more is due to just <?php
$query = new WP_Query(array('cat'=> '4', 'posts_per_page'=> '6', 'orderby'=>'modified', 'order'=>'DESC'));
while ($query->have_posts()) : $query->the_post();?>
<strong><?php the_title();?></strong>
<?php if ( get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true) ) : ?>

//replace read more link to value of read_pdf key if exists

<a href="<?php echo get_post_meta($post->ID, 'pdf_key', true) ); ?>">
read more
</a>

<?php else : ?>

//show normal read more link if no pdf attached.

toscho

@Pankaj Install the debug hook plugin and request your page like this: example.com/?hook=excerpt_more. This should tell you what filters are running on that hook.

Pankaj

now how can i get the pdf on second link not on first. first was just for testing purpose the code is working but not showing on second link ahhhh hope i am clear to everyone

I should die..:| else my senior will hang me today

@toscho I see will try this soon

userabuser

13:39

@Pankaj Get it to work?

Pankaj

@userabuser yep at last have to ask my senior the mean one and he scold me and told me :|

infact I dont think so this is the right way its just alternative i guess now i have to style this read more again

he told me this
if ($post_ID == 93)
{
echo "<a href='".get_post_meta($post->ID, 'pdf_link', true)."'>Read More</a>";
the_excerpt();
}

else
{
the_excerpt(__('(more�)'));
}

userabuser

That will only show a link for a PDF file on POST with ID #93... what if you add more PDFs in the fututre? That will not cover it!

The code I provide you does the same thing essentially, but will work in any future instance where you might use a direct link to the PDF. That is the better solution because you are adding a useful feature instead of a restrictive feature based on a single post.

Personally I would advise against boxing yourself into a corner like that and instead use my example which offers you that flexibility. That should always be the ultimate goal with user-experience, to extend the usefulness of a feature so that it can apply to more than a single instance, when applicable and this is a case where its applicable.

    function twentyeleven_auto_excerpt_more( $more ) {
   	if ( get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true) ) {
    		echo '<a href="'.get_post_meta($post->ID, 'pdf_key', true) ) .'">read more</a>';
    	}
    	else
    	{
    		return ' &hellip;' . twentyeleven_continue_reading_link();
    	}
    }
    add_filter( 'excerpt_more', 'twentyeleven_auto_excerpt_more' );

Pankaj

13:59

@userabuser brother i applied your example only but i failed to find that page where i have to put this after loop..

userabuser

Take the code above and replace the function starting on line 336 in your functions.php file

Pankaj

@userabuser I know this i told my senior to but being a senior mean you know the best and junior know's nothing kinda :|

userabuser

I'm not sure what I can say, I've just given you two answers that will work. The first one (on the main site) is a general approach, the second one above now is for the twentyeleven theme specifically.

Pankaj

@userabuser I believe you more than my seniors

userabuser

ok, so you don't need help anymore then?

Pankaj

14:06

@userabuser I am trying above code it throwing some errors

userabuser

    function twentyeleven_auto_excerpt_more( $more ) {
   	if ( get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true) ) {
    		echo '<a href="'.get_post_meta($post->ID, 'pdf_key', true) .'">read more</a>';
    	}
    	else
    	{
    		return ' &hellip;' . twentyeleven_continue_reading_link();
    	}
    }
    add_filter( 'excerpt_more', 'twentyeleven_auto_excerpt_more' );

I had an extra ) on the third line

mistake

Pankaj

i removed that code which was suggested by my senior and applied this on function.php now its again throwing errors on page.php I am too dumb in making changes

1 hour ago, by Pankaj

i want to to get that pdf on bottom link the top one was created when i pasted your code just to the_title that above links goes to the pdf smoothly but how can i get this on bottom link and right now again it;s not working

@userabuser Thanks for your great help

:)

userabuser

I'm trying to figure out how to get my excerpt to show up in twenty-eleven, I don't use that theme at all (ever)...

toscho

14:22

@userabuser Filter 'the_content' and return an excerpt if ! is_singular().

userabuser

@toscho Eek, I need to filter the content in Twenty Eleven theme to get an excerpt to show? Thought that theme would do it out the box.

toscho

nope

		<?php if ( is_search() ) : // Only display Excerpts for Search ?>
		<div class="entry-summary">
			<?php the_excerpt(); ?>
		</div><!-- .entry-summary -->
		<?php else : ?>
		<div class="entry-content">
			<?php the_content( __( 'Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&rarr;</span>', 'twentyeleven' ) ); ?>
			<?php wp_link_pages( array( 'before' => '<div class="page-link"><span>' . __( 'Pages:', 'twentyeleven' ) . '</span>', 'after' => '</div>' ) ); ?>
		</div><!-- .entry-content -->
		<?php endif; ?>

userabuser

@toscho I was looking for some stupid theme option button within the theme... my first thought was to filter yeah...

but... seems I need to do what you just said.

toscho

Looking at TwentyEleven’s code makes me sick.

userabuser

@Pankaj Based on what @toscho just said, did you actually modify your theme to show an excerpt in place of full-content?

Pankaj

14:25

@userabuser yes i did

userabuser

@toscho Well bloody said.. which is why I've never used the thing.

@Pankaj Ahhhhhhhhhh! Which code block did you create/modify please.

Pankaj

something like removed the_content(); and place
the_excerpt();

userabuser

@Pankaj I need to replicate what you have done so as not to create you something entirely different that would clash with what you've done.

Pankaj

from page.php

userabuser

ok.. are you sure you want to do that on page.php?

page.php should be for reading full content

Unless its a custom template handling posts...

What URL are you viewing the post at in the screenshot above?

Pankaj

14:29

@userabuser I am sorry that changes i have done in content.php not in page.php my mistake

-1

Q: Show Excerpts In Twenty Eleven Theme

I just need to create a blog I have done everything i guess, its showing posts but they are supposed to be kind of summary first and after click the whole post. I already selected the "For each article in a feed, show summary" from reading option from dashboard I already activated the hidden op...

excerpt theme-twenty-eleven

userabuser

ok

Pankaj

@userabuser I am working on my local system and just pasted screenshot above

userabuser

i know... but the just the relative path

/category/post-title

Pankaj

its like project name/news-events/

news and events is category

@userabuser i'l join you after some time need to leave now

userabuser

Hang on

I have solution for you...

Pankaj

14:36

okay okay I am here for a while

userabuser

Undo the other function I told you to do on line 336 and instead replace the function on line 364 with...

function twentyeleven_custom_excerpt_more( $output ) {
	global $post;
   	if ( get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true) ) {
		echo '<a href="'.get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true) .'">read more</a>';
    	}
    	else
    	{
		if ( has_excerpt() && ! is_attachment() ) {
			$output .= twentyeleven_continue_reading_link();
		}
		return $output;
    	}
 }
add_filter( 'get_the_excerpt', 'twentyeleven_custom_excerpt_more' );

Pankaj

Done

userabuser

Eek.. sorry about the code output there, bit messy.. Anyway this works. Remember to change the key from read_pdfif you use a different one!

@toscho Thanks for the clue in the damn P.O.S theme!!!

Pankaj

p.o.s :o?

userabuser

piece of... you get the idea.

Pankaj

14:40

:D

userabuser

Its code. I do not like it. One bit!

Pankaj

@userabuser It start showing the read more link but excerpt is gone

excerpt of the same section

and this is the right solution it will identify the pdf's if they are present and it will show them with out doing anything else thank you so much for great help

@userabuser Time to leave now will join you soon after reaching my palace ..

userabuser

ok

toscho

gist: Replace full content with excerpt, 2012-06-22 14:47:09Z

replace-content-with-excerpt.php

<?php # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
/**
 * Plugin Name: Replace full content with excerpt
 * Description: Replaces the full content on post listings with an excerpt
 * Version:     2012.06.22
 * Author:      Thomas Scholz <[email protected]>
 * Author URI:  http://toscho.de
 * License:     MIT
 * License URI: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php
 */

add_filter( 'the_content', 't5_replace_content_with_excerpt', 100 );

/**
 * Return excerpt if we are not on a singular post view.
 *
 * @param  string $content
 * @return string
 */
function t5_replace_content_with_excerpt( $content )
{
	if ( is_singular() )
	{
		return $content;
	}
	// remove our filter temporarily.
	// Otherwise we run into a infinite loop in wp_trim_excerpt().
	remove_filter( 'the_content', __FUNCTION__, 100 );
	$excerpt = apply_filters( 'the_excerpt', get_the_excerpt() );
	add_filter( 'the_content', __FUNCTION__, 100 );
	return $excerpt;
}

wp_trim_excerpt() sucks. Badly.

userabuser

@Pankaj Instead use the following...
function twentyeleven_custom_excerpt_more( $output ) {

	global $post;

   	if ( get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true) ) {

		$output .= '<a href="'.get_post_meta($post->ID, 'read_pdf', true) .'">read more</a>';
		return $output;

    	}
    	else
    	{
			if ( has_excerpt() && ! is_attachment() ) {
				$output .= twentyeleven_continue_reading_link();
			}
			return $output;

    	}

}
add_filter( 'get_the_excerpt', 'twentyeleven_custom_excerpt_more' );

@toscho Yes it does suck!

8 rep points off 1000. Once I reach that I am retiring.

toscho

14:55

goes downvoting

userabuser

lol should have kept my mouth shut

toscho

don't forget that when you reach this marker again next year

userabuser

what, 2000 rep? ha.. I'm puzzled how some of you guys build some insane rep... respect.

toscho

no … 1000

userabuser

bahaha

lol

toscho

14:59

But, really, it’s easy to make 1000 per month. Where is the problem?

userabuser

ooo fancy...

I guess I need to answer far more questions really...

Not considering upvotes for instance I'd need to answer over 60 questions per month to get 1000 rep points, granted the more questions you answer the more snowball effect you receive from up votes

Does show some serious dedication from some of you guys which is great... ;)

toscho

some motivation :D

userabuser

saw that before, you are also #1 for top 5% in quarter (me 17th)

toscho

because I know all the little tricks and secrets

userabuser

Rarst 31k rep

@toscho I vaguely remember you mentioned a couple not long ago but haven't found them in transcript ;)

toscho

15:08

1. Be the first. Especially on weekends people are grateful very fast.
2. Add code examples. Nothing beats copy & paste. People are lazy.
3. Use formatting: lists and headlines are rep magnets.
4. Screenshots. People _love_ to see pictures.
5. Useful links.

userabuser

I pretty much do that anyway... habit really.. but good tips - didn't think of the 1st though

toscho

Answer fast, edit later until the answer is really good.

userabuser

I tend to do that... pretty it up

toscho

Oh, and if you think your answer is really, really good, post links on Twitter and Google+.

Stephen Harris

@toscho oh, and give good answers :)

userabuser

15:14

Ah really Toscho?

@StephenHarris Hadn't thought of that one tbh.

Stephen Harris

@userabuser don't blame you - doesn't actually work :)

toscho

An easy way to get rep without thinking: Go through old unanswered questions and read the comments. Sometimes the answer is hidden in a comment. Ask to move that to an answer, come back one week later and do it yourself.

userabuser

Interesting indeed... how does that gain you rep? Just via upvotes? I avoided old questions because I wasn't sure the policy on digging up the past around here whether that was not recommended.

Speaking of abandoned questions that is...

Tom J Nowell

@toscho hmm Ive been quiet lately

need to start up the rep amassing engines again

userabuser

@StephenHarris Haha... I knew it.

toscho

15:19

Yes, you get upvotes. These answers are rarely accepted but that doesn’t matter.

Tom J Nowell

@userabuser there's a limit of 200 rep per day ( bounties dont count )

userabuser

rep off?

@TomJNowell Didn't know that either... still, 200 rep a day is good work.

@toscho How does Twiiter/G+ factor in? You're speaking of traffic to your Q&A thread netting you extra votes no doubt?

toscho

@userabuser This is highly encouraged. There is even a Revival badge for that.

@userabuser we have 14k users. There is a good chance some of your readers are already registered and drive by just to vote for your answer.

Also, edit the question you answered to make it really good visible on Google. And vote for that question! This is important.

userabuser

Hmm.. clever..

toscho

and delete long comment threads. people don’t trust answers with lots of comments. Beeing a mod is quite handy here. :)

Tom J Nowell

15:25

@userabuser once you start pushing it you'll find somedays you dont have to do anything and youll still reach 200 rep

userabuser

@toscho Not sure I agree with deleting transcript that may otherwise contain useful information...

toscho

@userabuser Move the useful information into the answer first.

userabuser

good point i guess

toscho

off topic? the question is valid for non-wp code too, right?

userabuser

off topic yes, I flagged that

Well.. its more so that there is no right answer to that question

toscho

15:36

@userabuser the right answer is no. That is too short for our fine site.

Regarding reputation: Share what you just learned before you forget how hard you striggled to get something right. Use WPSE as your WordPress blog. Diana just started doing that. Nice!

userabuser

what about if I do a screenshot of NO in photoshop?

Stephen Harris

@toscho yup - not specifically related to wordpress at all. But I thought the same about that which versions should I support question...

or more precisely should I support old versions of my plugins and wp

userabuser

@StephenHarris Agree... Though, it seems to me that there is no other collective forum where questions of that nature can be asked around the Net. Hence why they tend to end up where.

toscho

@StephenHarris Yeah, but that was at least more WP specific because we have a similar problem with WP itself.

userabuser

gray area

toscho

15:51

btw I wish we had a strict policy to close all slider questions.

They are almost always too localized.

userabuser

That much I agree!

Very laborious to answer... as a result.

Brady

16:21

Imagine trying to explain to an Australian that your name is Emma Chizzit. They would think you are saying How much is it?

userabuser

LOL! Funny because I'm from Oz. Gonna use that joke mate good one!

Wyck

@all I don't suppose anyone knows how to view the revisions history of a specific line in hg?

Rarst

@Wyck I know PhpStorm can do it so probably there is command for it...

Brady

@userabuser I know a few bad aussie jokes :)

userabuser

@Brady Got a laugh out of me :)

Wyck

16:33

@Rarst ah found it, at least in tortoise, you can search history for line and then view changeset

Rarst

@Wyck it [rpbably works on top of diff, can't google anything for precisely lines

Brady

BBC News: An ultra-light plane has crashed into a Ferris wheel in a village north of Sydney, trapping four people, Australian officials say.

Some people dream of being a pilot, others simply fail to see the attraction.

userabuser

haha

Wyck

I could not find the proper command, ended up using the gui

userabuser

good one mate lol

Rarst

17:17

Hybrid Core alpha went GPLv2+, yay for combining with Bootstrap!

Sisir

how do i find templatepath (not uri) on child theme?

Wyck

@Sisir get_stylesheet_directory

Sisir

@Wyck thanks!

Rarst

17:49

@toscho @brady @eamann think it's time we knifed this one?

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Q: Definitive list of WordPress books

I've been thinking about what other large community wiki post site can benefit from. Questions about books come up all the time and I think it will be beneficial to have one large list to consolidate available literature on WordPress. Please include: title author(s) (preferably with links and ...

books

saltcod

Trying to return the top-most page in a list of hierarchal pages. Can I use wp_list_pluck and wp_list_pages together?

wp_list_pluck(wp_list_pages) =)

toscho

@Rarst it is out of date so fast

Rarst

@toscho I think long term it fails as "polling" question... as far as I remember book lists where closed on SO last year

toscho

close it

Rarst

done

userabuser

17:56

I object!

toscho

closing your own question is fun. I have done the same recently. :)

Rarst

@userabuser you object! :)

userabuser

hehe

i->object

toscho

three-digit-user’s voices don’t count

userabuser

8 points damnit upvote me!!!

toscho

17:59

suspended for using multiple exclamation marks. rep reset to 1 … beep

userabuser

Q:

toscho

what?

userabuser

exactly

Michael Ecklund

What do you have to do to become a UK citizen?

Sisir

@all is it possible get_posts() to mess with main query?

Stephen Harris

18:14

@saltcod no, wp_list_pluck only works for arrays of array/object where you are trying to pluck a particular key/property

@Sisir nope :)

Sisir

@StephenHarris i don't know. looks like its happening to me :-/

userabuser

query_posts is for that, but why would you want to do that?

in what way?

saltcod

@StephenHarris Didn't think so =)

Stephen Harris

@Sisir it really really can't :). It doesn't change any of the globals - it just performs a query.

userabuser

@saltcod Assuming you know the hierarchical tree of pages you want the top most parent from you could use get_post_ancestors

the top most parent is returned as the last value in the array

that ought to do it for you, along with something like $top_parent = array_pop($array_of_ids) or even something simpler like echo end($array_of_ids);

lkraav

18:58

sup yall

whats your recommendation for an access control plugin. looking to restrict a page and its subpages to a certain role+above.

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