The Loop

Mark Kaplun

02:39

@Darth_Vader from my POV answers that refer to a plugin are just usually bad because they almost never explain why the plugin is the answer and how to configure it to solve the question. Someone gave a list of 10 plugins, so he didn't even had one to recommend...

The answer that was not downvoted there cover like 10% of what a true answer should be.

lazy poorly researched questions many times lead to bad answers

Mark Kaplun

05:09

we got a winner for the question with the most buzzwords per content ;) wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/228544/…

Mark Kaplun

08:09

hmm was deleted

Michel

12:15

hi. I'm very new to wordpress... I have to add a search into the blog, but the agency that developed it previously did something... The widget menu on the admin doesn't appear. and there is no search files/form in the project :X I'm kind in a dead end... as I don't have anything to show I didn't open a question =(

CoderSte

@Michel Have you tried contacting the agency?

Michel

12:35

@CoderSte not yet, as the task was "simple" they just pass it to me.

CoderSte

I don't think the widget menu has anything to do with a search

Darth_Vader

12:59

greetings

Mark Kaplun

morning the dark one ;)

Michel

morning

@CoderSte how could I implement a search then? I spoke with my boss, the agency doesn't exist (this is why he gave me the task. I'm both php and c# senior, but... saying that i'm junior wp is being nice).

CoderSte

Do you have FTP access to the site?

Michel

I'm almost going for the hard mode (getting the fresh wp copy and try to get all the layout of the actual on this)

Yes I do

Darth_Vader

@Michel have you looked to see if anything exists in the functions.php

Michel

13:07

@Darth_Vader wp_content/themes/my_theme/functions.php right?

Darth_Vader

@Michel to make sure Im reading correctly. You're in the widgets area trying to get the search form to work but it isn't showing on the site?

CoderSte

Vader I think his problem is that he has no search.php and no search-form.php file which means the search function work for the sites

Darth_Vader

@CoderSte I think so too

CoderSte

From what I gathered is he check the project and no search files exist

Michel

@CoderSte Correct

Darth_Vader

13:08

I thought if the search file existed it would generate the search widget?

Michel

I added the search.php and searchform.php at wp_content/themes/my_theme/ but, nothing changed

and the widget menu still is not showing up

CoderSte

The search.php and searchform.php won't make Widgets show

Michel

But they will work ?

CoderSte

Take a read on this function to see if it can help you :) developer.wordpress.org/reference/functions/get_search_form

Michel

ok =) thanks

CoderSte

13:11

You want the search form to display correct?

Darth_Vader

that gives me an idea for a search box..

Michel

@CoderSte Correct, all I need is to add the search input and it to work like it does in the default wp

CoderSte

Yeah the get_search_form() function will get the content inside the search-form.php which should be the search field and stuff and then search.php display the results

Michel

I added <?php get_search_form ( bool $echo = true ) ?> but it gave a fatal error (i think). I'm looking where can I enable the errors so I can know what happened

Darth_Vader

@Michel this may help" premium.wpmudev.org/blog/build-your-own-custom-wordpress-search

Mark Kaplun

13:18

I think that in later releases you do not have a widget menu if you don't have a sidebar

the search form do not have to be in a theme, core supplies a default one

can't believe anyone will disable the search widget on purpose

Michel

@MarkKaplun I couldn't find any search call in any place :( Also, following your suggestion, how could I implement the search?

Mark Kaplun

get_serch_form should work, wherever you place it

developer.wordpress.org/reference/functions/get_search_form

CoderSte

We are linking him to the same stuff xD

Mark Kaplun

lol

didn't see that link

CoderSte

Aha

Mark Kaplun

13:27

you know programmers, rushing to solve problems before reading the previous documentation ;)

CoderSte

;)

My worst habbit is trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing then causing me a lot more problems xD

Mark Kaplun

been there

CoderSte

Not a good place to be ;)

Darth_Vader

@MarkKaplun never, lol

@CoderSte lol sounds like me

CoderSte

@Darth_Vader probably most developers xD for some reason we like to make things more of a challenge ;)

Darth_Vader

13:33

Ive been trying to learn about wp more by making custom items

Michel

@Darth_Vader I need the default. Not a custom one. But even so, I took a look, but I'm unable to call the searchform

Mark Kaplun

what error do you get?

Michel

19 mins ago, by Michel

I added <?php get_search_form ( bool $echo = true ) ?> but it gave a fatal error (i think). I'm looking where can I enable the errors so I can know what happened

Darth_Vader

is this on a live site?

Mark Kaplun

yes, but what is exactly the error

Michel

13:35

and here I'm, looking for the place to add errors

Darth_Vader

is there any way you can get the theme and load it locally?

Michel

@Darth_Vader yes (but it's not in english)

Darth_Vader

@Michel what do you mean its in english?

Michel

@Darth_Vader typo

Rarst

search is WP is just is, it's hard to break. try example.com/?s=test for starters

widgets and templates are entirely optional for it

Mark Kaplun

13:37

@Michel, so how do you know it is a fatal error? blank page?

Rarst

get_search_form() should output default form and just work.

Darth_Vader

agree with rarst even though it's not in english you should still be able to follow the code

Rarst

of course the gifted agency might have made a site that is fubar

to show errors enable WP_DEBUG constant in config

Michel

@Rarst blog.contadorx.com/?s=test it works (with an horrible layout, but works)

Darth_Vader

@Rarst isnt it bad to enable wp_debug on a live site?

Rarst

13:40

it's bad to disable wp_debug ever. for live sites just log errors instead of showing.

Mark Kaplun

+1

Rarst

I am skipping nuances for our cowboy coding session here :)

Michel

@MarkKaplun <html><body></body></html> this is the source code I just assumed that is a fatal error that is suppressed by code

@Rarst thanks going to add it to see

Rarst

@Michel well, that's a start... you'll have to figure out what's up with template and why search form errors though

Mark Kaplun

so it is not fatal fatal

Michel

13:41

@MarkKaplun why?

Mark Kaplun

because you have valid html, meaning something went bad but code ended successfuly

Rarst

I do actually see search form there (on ?s=test page), it's just under messed up header

Mark Kaplun

I see a form with no method or action, if you can you should just make them fix things

Michel

@Rarst first things first, adding the search form to the page Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '$echo' (T_VARIABLE) the line code: <?php get_search_form( bool $echo = true ) ?> I was thinking in just add a random form with a input and a submit, but I don't like to not to use things "already create" for it

Rarst

you don't need bool $echo = true part

Michel

13:47

<?php get_search_form( $echo ) ?> show nothing

This $echo where it come from:

?

Rarst

do you define $echo to something? just give it no parameters

no, wait...

Michel

Trying to follow: developer.wordpress.org/reference/functions/get_search_form

Rarst

yeah, true is default, just <?php get_search_form() ?>

Michel

Sorry for asking for such noob questions :X

Have to do something without time to read docs is not a nice place

worked

thanks guys

now I need to fix the layout =)

Darth_Vader

14:05

rarst is the white knight

kaiser

Very WordPress-y: Connect two connectors.

Mark Kaplun

LOL

it is a nice ad, but do they actually have answers?

Darth_Vader

14:38

@MarkKaplun looks to be fifty/fifty

Darth_Vader

15:56

so you guys playing with the WP API much? I wanted to dive into APIs but I'm gonna have to figure out how to create new fields to utilize what I want to pass in

Howdy_McGee

Is it incorrect to ask a question and immediately answer it with a solution in hopes someone else will come along with something better / more efficient?

Rarst

16:16

@Darth_Vader API as in what? most of WP dev is just using APIs...

toscho

@Howdy_McGee that's fine

Rarst

@Howdy_McGee is fine, but you might want to note on Q that it's intended for self-answer if you don't post it like immediately

Howdy_McGee

Gotcha. I'll ask the question and leave it hang for a bit. I have a solution but it's kind of lengthy... and uses output buffering :)

Rarst

see above if you let it hang. if someone else sinks time into something you have solved they might not be happy about it.

Howdy_McGee

Mmm good point.

Rarst

16:21

just note it upfront that you already have a take on the answer, then it's fine. if someone chooses to work on it they are aware.

Darth_Vader

@Rarst looking to take a JSON feed and all its names and pass the entire contents to WP. Would completely by pass the need to allow authors into posts except for approval.

Rarst

which API you mean?

PHP? REST?

Darth_Vader

after research I see WP API v2. So what Im debating is creating a PHP file to pull the other API into a folder then through a cron push into into WP with PHP

Rarst

you don't need REST one for that

Darth_Vader

interesting.. sits down in front of the master, lol

do tell, please.. or recommend any documentation to go on a journey down the rabbit hole?

Rarst

16:31

wp-cron > wp_remote_get() > wp_insert_post()

Darth_Vader

haven't heard of wp_remote_get(), going to look at the codex thanks

ha Tom McFarlin wrote a post on it too

Rarst

18:10

Tom McFarlin wrote a post on everything

Darth_Vader

18:43

@Rarst at least he references your site, lol

StackExchange

21:16

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Q: Is there a way to receive notifications from specific questions updates?

Sometimes, there are questions that let you really curious about what will be the final solution (if there is finally a solution). And I wonder if there is any way to subscribe to that question, and receive updates as they happen. Thanks!

feature-request

Howdy_McGee

21:51

We've had like, 3 questions on the Hot Network Question list today - good day apparently :D

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