Discussion on question by Andrew Halve: How to mount an exFAT external hardrive? Using ubuntu 11.10

Andrew Halve

04:02

unable to locate

package exfat-fuse

i tried
cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d

sudo rm ./*

Videonauth

did you sudo apt update before ?

and after that ?

Andrew Halve

ah yes sorry i did not, you mean in software & updates

do i need to go check mark all of those

Videonauth

yes :)

if they are set you forgot to update the lists, the computer cant serve you anything he does not know

Andrew Halve

i'm updating again

i did the updates

no i do sudo apt update

now i do sudo apt update

then
sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils

says app stream cache update failed

i did the sudo exfat-fuse etc... now at progress bar

let's see

ok everything is fine

now the problem is that i cannot view certain folders from the live usb stick

says i do not have permissions

and those did not copy over

Videonauth

wen you right click on those folder and choose properties what do you see on the permissins tab?

Andrew Halve

04:16

user # 1000

which i've never

seen before

and at the bottom says

you are notn the owner, so you cannot change the permissions

Videonauth

user ID 1000 is your normal user in ubuntu

yep you might need to do this from command line

Andrew Halve

like transfer files over command line

or to change permissions

Videonauth

you could do both if you sure youre not going to use the 11.10 system you had set up again you could take ownership of those files

what does the general tab say where this folder is located at?

and what does the properties general tab say where your backup drive is located at ?

Andrew Halve

Says /media/ubuntu/86cce761 then a long set of numbers and letters

and the back up drive says

/media/ubuntu/Dre's 4Tb drive

type says inode/directory

Videonauth

and you want to copy all of that drive to the backup drive ?

Andrew Halve

04:24

yes actually that would be great and I would delete what's necessary after

Videonauth

ok you can make use of tab completion in the terminal so type no return untill i sa the line is finished:

cp -rv /media/ubuntu86

press the tab key

and then when it completed the name followed by a /

Andrew Halve

which name?

Videonauth

ok do following so nothing gets harmed cd /media/ubuntu/86 then press tab and afterwards return

the name with the many numbers should get completed automatically

unless there are two drives which have the same number at the start

Andrew Halve

ah ok

Videonauth

did it tell you that youre have no access to that directory?

or are you actually in that directory ? you can confirm by typing ls

and it should list the stuff in the directory you want top copy

Andrew Halve

04:31

yep in the directory :)

no error message

Videonauth

ok now type:

mkdir /media/ubuntu/Dre\'s\ 4Tb\ Drive/backup

Andrew Halve

do i need to put the name exactly as it is

or will it auto detect as well?

Videonauth

yes since you where so clever to name your drive with spaces and special characters in the name :D

you can type Dre and <tab>

and it should complete the name for you

Andrew Halve

hahaha awesome

yes it comeplete

then i hit return

and it sais

Videonauth

and it has the same baslashes as i did i guess ;)

did you complete the line ?

Andrew Halve

04:34

yes exactly

after i hit tab

i hit return

should i have done something else

it said ....4TB\ G/

Videonauth

the line should look like this before you hit return

mkdir /media/ubuntu/Dre\'s\ 4Tb\ Drive/backup

this creates a directory in your backup drive called backup

brb getting me something to drink

Andrew Halve

no problem

says no such file or directory

Videonauth

huh? ok does it show a new directory which is called back in your backup drive when you look at it in the GUI ?

Andrew Halve

not sure what that means "GUI" ?

sorry

Videonauth

GUI == graphical user interface

where you before looked at the properties etc

does it show there a new folder in your backup drive ?

Andrew Halve

04:45

don't think so

says /media/ubuntu/Dre's 4TB

then i can't see the rest

Videonauth

well that drive is not there it has another name

Andrew Halve

the name on the left says

Dre's 4TB G

the main name for the hardrive

Videonauth

and on the right side are there any new folders in that drive?

Andrew Halve

nope i did rename the main folder

where I initially did the transfer

because i assumed we'd be doing another fresh transfer

so i didn't want it to replace the existing folder from the first failed transfer

the last one where i had to shut off the computer

there's also a system volume information folder

not sure if that's new

Videonauth

yes and your command should have created a folder ;)

if you did it complete

mkdir /media/ubuntu/Dre\'s\ 4Tb\ Drive/backup

Andrew Halve

04:50

ah no it did not

Videonauth

and that folder should have been named backup

Andrew Halve

nothing

because it said error

i'm retyping it

i wrote mkdir /media/ubuntu/Dre\'s\ 4Tb\ G/

i press tab

I pressed tab after dre and that's how it completed it

should I add something esle

Videonauth

do

ls -lah /media/

and make a picture of it

Andrew Halve

imgur.com/a/Kg2Ny

Videonauth

and in

ls -lah /media/ubuntu/

sorry

Andrew Halve

04:59

imgur.com/a/3PrML

Videonauth

mkdir /media/ubuntu/Dre\'s\ 4Tb\ G/backup

Andrew Halve

what do you think

yes now it did a backup folder :)

Videonauth

cd /media/ubuntu/86<tab+return>

then do

sudo cp -rv ./* /media/ubuntu/Dre\'s\ 4Tb\ G/backup/

and let it run

Andrew Halve

said cp

invalid option

Videonauth

woot ??

only invalid option or did it say more ?

Andrew Halve

05:08

sending you a picture

imgur.com/a/eo7lY

Videonauth

you missed a space between -rv and ./*

sudo cp -rv ./* /media/ubuntu/Dre\'s\ 4Tb\ G/backup/

Andrew Halve

ah yes

code is precise isn't it

Videonauth

and sure . is not a valid option ;)

yes it is

Andrew Halve

shall i start from the beginning

Videonauth

press arrow up key in terminal and then with left and right arrow move to where you made that boo boo ;)

but make sure you insert the space at the right place

only that line again without errors please this should copy that whole drives contents over prompting you a line for each file

Andrew Halve

05:13

i did it again

instead of going up

now the code is going crazy

i'm assuming it's backing everything up

Videonauth

now it is copying

when it stops outputting a line for each file and gives you back your command prompt its done

Andrew Halve

perfect

Videonauth

when it is done you might want to take ownership of all files inside your backup folder

Andrew Halve

now will this remove the permissions for that previous files i wasn't able to copy

Videonauth

no it wont remove the permissionis it simply overrides them becasue you say youre root/superuser and tell it top copy and not to move

Andrew Halve

05:16

ah perfect, will everything still act normal when i remove the usb live version and use 11.10

by normal i mean how it was before

not with access to exfat

but just the general settings i had before

Videonauth

it should unless your previous copy attempt did move files over

hope you didnt delete the backup folder you had made before ?

Andrew Halve

i did not

Videonauth

ok good

because there you did a move action when dragging and dropping the icons

what you do now is making a copy

you can test if 11.10 is running still after you did your copy, ping me in here when the copying is done

Andrew Halve

perfect

i'm assuming I could then try and upgrade my ubuntu copy

to newer version

and not worry since i have the entire hard drive back up after this

Videonauth

and whats with the stuff on your encrypted disk?

tbh if i where you i would go for a fresh install instead of an upgrade

Andrew Halve

05:27

there are more files on their i want to back up on my big 4TB

so it is possible that this new transfer of files is only transferring the files i did not have permission for earlier

or is it transferring the same files as my last backup with the drag and drop + the new files that I did not have permission for earlier

Videonauth

since it froze and you restarted the computer it might have files which are as well in your other backup, but you can sort that out later

i think?

and you should look int o mounting that crypted volume

Andrew Halve

yes i agree, i just want to make sure this new copy of files is everything as it is

and the old i could delete

but you're thinking this new transfer may be missing some files from the last backup?

Videonauth

err no the old one you might want to keep for now too, since im not sure which files got moved already and which are not

ok now for starters, your first attempt moved files to the first backup folder, which are now not being copied because they don't exist anymore on the drive you moved them from

the actual running command is doing a copy of the rest of the files which are existent on that drive you wanted to backup

so you might want to keep both folders for now and maybe you have to take ownership of those folders later on

Andrew Halve

i see, is there a way to merge them and see what's a duplicate or not

Videonauth

to be able to access them if youre doing a fresh install of ubuntu on that laptop or another computer

you could copy them over to a third directory and merege them there and afterwards testing for completeness remove the old folders ?

?

Andrew Halve

05:38

i see

either way this new copy of files should get everything

right

Videonauth

yep and they are even still on the disk you copied them from

Videonauth

06:16

o/ @sudodus

sudodus

07:10

o/ @Videonauth

I see that you are solving the problems :-)

Videonauth

07:59

i try to :)

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