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Downgoat

00:12

@Mego I think it's time we make Languages a DB model

we can add a /languages.json endpoint that returns all the languages as a JSON for JS to use

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ASCII-only

02:26

@Pavel it doesn't if you can specify I/O formats

@NathanMerrill +1 re: last pronunciation

Pavel

@ASCII-only My submission returns a pointer to a delegate that returns a Singleton System.Collections.ArrayList with a System.Data.SqlTypes.SqlDecimal that is my result, how to specify?

ASCII-only

03:22

@Pavel :| is sqldecimal a valid return type on PPCG

@Pavel and since when would that be anywhere near golfy

Downgoat

03:49

Optimally I'd like to make it so you can "Create a Language" in the same way you can create a tag on SE, and that way we can still have users enter information about a language and get rich features like syntax highlighting, but we can still also have people use esolangs they made the other day

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ASCII-only

05:38

@Downgoat i'd prefer if they could actually add languages

that actually run

using like a custom TIO instance if needed. but that may be too much overhead

also: a way to set language creator/language info admin

basically someone that manages highlighting, maybe basic details too (and possibly control edit permissions to those too)

Downgoat

@ASCII-only create language is generally synonym of add language?

@ASCII-only oh, well you'd be able to specify a TIO id

ASCII-only

@Downgoat i mean they can add run script for e.g. esolangs they made the other day

Downgoat

run script? we're definetly not doing automated testing

@ASCII-only very insecure to allow arbitrary javascript though

ASCII-only

wait what

@Downgoat what does js have to do with this

Downgoat

@ASCII-only syntax highlighting would require both ace javascript files and highlightjs javascript files

ASCII-only

05:47

@Downgoat ...

ace supports .sublime-syntax IIRC...

or textmate

but either way that's 0 js

Downgoat

@ASCII-only you can use an ace script to obtain javascript but there is still XSS posibility and the fact you also have to write a JS script still to wrap it, and also highlightjs

ASCII-only

@Downgoat ???

Downgoat

not to mention the fact we'd need to repackage ace

and recompile it then

ASCII-only

@Downgoat wait really?

Downgoat

point is, for a quick random esolang you can still use it

ASCII-only

05:51

i thought you could literally go like load_highlighter('path.tmhighlight') on clientside or whatever

Downgoat

but you can also just use the submission form and in like 1 day I can go and get full nice support for your language

ASCII-only

it's been ~1 day and Charcoal's not there yet :P

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Esolanging Fruit

08:25

Is the site up on an official domain right now (i.e. is it possible for me to easily view it)?

ASCII-only

09:02

@EsolangingFruit axtell.vihan.org

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Pavel

13:07

@ASCII-only A) Why would it not be, B) Maybe I need a fixed point data type for my solution to work

ASCII-only

@Pavel idk. i don't think i've ever seen a non-stdlib int return type?

@Pavel fixed point?

Pavel

@ASCII-only Yeah, SQL decimal is fixed point instead of floating point.

ASCII-only

@Pavel well you could always try casting every return value that's supposed to be an int to decimal or something

Pavel

Decimal is still floating point and can have floating point errors.

Anyway, the point is that golfing on ppcg sometimes leads to unexpected output formats that you can't always account for.

ASCII-only

13:25

@Pavel well, it isn't too hard to find every numeric/string/list type in a standard library

Pavel

For every language?

And hey, outputting to the screen is a valid output format. What if my solution displays a png?

Anonymous

If we were to support automatic validation, it wouldn't be mandatory

Pavel

@Mego Submissions could have a "verified" check mark if it was automatically validated by a computer or by an approved human validator.

That could be one of the moderation roles.

Anonymous

@Pavel I'm not sure how I feel about that

Pavel

Could even have its own review-like queue.

@Mego I think making solutions that are known to be valid is good, especially on particularly tricky challenges.

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Downgoat

23:30

@Mego fixed github.com/Axtell/Axtell/pull/112

Pavel

"fixed" or "removed test entirely"

Stan Strum

23:54

If any of you need help with diagnosing or just general help with some tricky code I'm usually available.

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