StackMobile Discussion

George Edison

02:04

New changes!

I have gotten rid of the little icon in the corner and replaced it with a dialog.

Allows for much more flexibility.

@RolandTaylor: This is good because now you can easily get back to the home page.

Still gotta figure out where to put those page numbers...

The Evil Phoenix

cough

what page numbers?

George Edison

They're not there yet :)

They're in the planning stages.

The Evil Phoenix

ah

ANYWAYS

lemme see if that rendering issue remains

George Edison

Oh yeah.

The Evil Phoenix

if it does i'll grab a screenie and get it up here or something

George Edison

02:17

If it does, I might have a quick fix to try too.

The Evil Phoenix

HOLY HELL

EMAIL FLOOOOOD!

interesting...

its working now...

no clue why

George Edison

Really? Well, that's a good thing.

Does the new options button in the corner work okay?

The Evil Phoenix

f... safari crashed

sec

yeah a popup shows up

three buttons

George Edison

Great!

The Evil Phoenix

home page for stackmobile, a "Display page on ask ubuntu" and "close"

George Edison

02:20

Do you think that it makes sense to put it in a dialog?

The Evil Phoenix

oh, and the little "x" in the top left

speaking of which...

George Edison

@TheEvilPhoenix That's right. That's what it's supposed to do.

The Evil Phoenix

why the hell did you put that x in the top left

George Edison

@TheEvilPhoenix Uh... I didn't.

That's where jQuery Mobile puts it.

The Evil Phoenix

...

George Edison

02:20

I actually don't have control of that.

The Evil Phoenix

reminds himself to destroy jQuery

George Edison

Any other features not working?

The Evil Phoenix

remember i couldnt test?

checking users now

George Edison

@TheEvilPhoenix Why not?

I can't remember now.

The Evil Phoenix

building had no reception inside xD

George Edison

02:21

Oh, right.

Tip: you can find sites quickly on the home page by typing in the search box.

The Evil Phoenix

yeah

i'm testing askubuntu first

then SO

George Edison

SO has Prettify enabled... so you should see syntax highlighting.

The Evil Phoenix

wtf "UserExchange.php:48 - Undefined index: users"

George Edison

What page?

The Evil Phoenix

when using search on users

George Edison

02:23

That's an error.

The Evil Phoenix

indeed

George Edison

Hang on.

The Evil Phoenix

i searched for me with this string: The Evil Phoenix

George Edison

Yup. My bad - it's confusing the spaces.

I'll quickly roll a fix for that...

The Evil Phoenix

same occurs for post searching

slightly different page and index though

George Edison

02:24

[Slaps forehead.]

The Evil Phoenix

lol...

tag search...

George Edison

Wait... my RegEx does allow spaces. Weird.

@TheEvilPhoenix Oh, you found the page that isn't done yet :)

The Evil Phoenix

"The 'q' parameter contains an invalid value"

lolol

George Edison

@TheEvilPhoenix Which one is that?

The Evil Phoenix

tag search

searching for: "mysql mysql-5"

going to try each separately

George Edison

02:26

Ah, it rejects dashes.

That's what's causing that one.

The Evil Phoenix

oh, and btw, tag search fails :P

well that sucks... because some tags have dashes.

and i might need to search those tags... so...

George Edison

But I can of course fix it.

The Evil Phoenix

</massive feature and bug fix request>

George Edison

It's not that massive.

The Evil Phoenix

tags button under the site you've selected returns a "Page is still under construction"

George Edison

02:28

That will need to still be added.

The Evil Phoenix

questions list shows up right.

lemme see about reading a question.

George Edison

If you see a question with comments, click the button to show them.

I created the animation for that :)

The Evil Phoenix

ok, sec.

the question and answers render right.

comments button does as well.

George Edison

The animation is nice?

:)

The Evil Phoenix

well

lags a tad on this device

and WHY THE HECK CAN'T I TALK AT MY NORMAL SPEED THAT I USUALLY COULD??? ITS GIVING ME A DAMNED 10 SECOND DELAY BETWEEN MESSAGES IN HERE!!!!!! </RAGE>

George Edison

02:30

FlackBot was having those problems earlier.

Seems to not be limited to one user.

The Evil Phoenix

although you seem to be unaffected. because of your mod?

George Edison

No clue.

The Evil Phoenix

works for SO as well, same errors as previously outlined still occur of course

George Edison

Found the bug.

Seems like it chokes when the API returns no results.

The Evil Phoenix

is the search bar dynamic search?

George Edison

02:33

@TheEvilPhoenix Dynamic search?

The Evil Phoenix

as in it dynamically changes what's displayed as input is given.

George Edison

No...

That would be impossible due to the speed of the API.

The Evil Phoenix

then wtf is causing this keyboard lag...

George Edison

Searches take around 4 - 6 seconds.

The Evil Phoenix

because the search bar lags with me just typing in characters.

i have to wait >= 30 seconds for chars to be entered

George Edison

02:34

@TheEvilPhoenix On the search page...? or the home page?

The Evil Phoenix

home page, search bar to search SE sites

George Edison

Ah, that does make sense.

Seems like jQuery Mobile is heavy on resources when it searches.

What browser?

The Evil Phoenix

yes but i didnt hit "go" yet

safari on the iphone

George Edison

Ooooooh. That one is instantaneous.

Sorry, my bad.

The Evil Phoenix

also btw, search failed and didnt run

George Edison

02:35

Yeah, that is a bit weird, 'cuz in the webOS emulator, it's pretty quick.

@TheEvilPhoenix Which search this time?

The Evil Phoenix

home page, search for se sites

George Edison

It failed?

The Evil Phoenix

searched for "ask ubuntu"

the full list of sites is returned

George Edison

Lemme try it...

You should just have to type 'ask' to bring it up.

That will leave only AU and AU Meta on the screen.

The Evil Phoenix

orly?

so its like the ajax search that google uses...

because that's whats happening on firefox on this machine

George Edison

02:37

Yeah, it should be only showing the ones that match the search as you type.

The Evil Phoenix

and it doesnt change the results on the iphone browser

George Edison

Try it on your desktop browser to see what it's supposed to be like.

The Evil Phoenix

well that explains two things: (a) the lag, and (b) why Safari sucks

i did

George Edison

@TheEvilPhoenix Safari is... well... not perfect.

The Evil Phoenix

it works perfectly on the desktop

George Edison

02:38

That's good.

The Evil Phoenix

@GeorgeEdison its the only out-of-the-box browser in the iPhone OS

George Edison

I know :(

There's also Opera Mini, but it lacks AJAX.

The Evil Phoenix

and Safari's ability to process AJAX on the iPhone 4 seems to be nonexistant

George Edison

I used to use Opera Mini on my 'dumb' phone.

It worked surprisingly well.

It can execute a lot of JS code server-side.

The Evil Phoenix

because (a) it isnt returning search results, and (b) isnt dynamically changing the list of items

George Edison

02:39

Yeah, that's no good.

You have iOS 4?

The Evil Phoenix

mhm

most recent

lemme test on my iPod Touch as well, 4th gen, same os.

nope, same lag and lack of updating of search results and stuff

George Edison

Opera Mini actually works quite well: opera.com/mobile/demo

Okay, I take that back :)

The Evil Phoenix

wtf network implosion :/

hehe, so i was RIGHT!

hits @GeorgeEdison with a 15 page document outlining standards for cross-platform-compatible mobile web applications

@TheX sup

@GeorgeEdison you know what I need... i need exactly 3 more rep points... then my rep becomes 1337 xD

George Edison

03:01

Just lost 141 rep. :(

The Evil Phoenix

ouch

how

George Edison

I think that person that was upvoting me yesterday.

The 'fraudulent vote detector' saw them and cancelled them.

The Evil Phoenix

heh

George Edison

That was easy.

I fixed the errors for searching with spaces.

@TheEvilPhoenix: So what are the remaining issues (besides the tags page being under construction)?

The Evil Phoenix

AJAX search being laggy as hell

:P

George Edison

03:08

Okay, that's one.

Anything else?

The Evil Phoenix

all the ones i mentioned previously

any ones you've repaired, ignore.

George Edison

P.S. It isn't AJAX search.

The Evil Phoenix

whatever it is

George Edison

Well, just so we get the facts straight.

:)

The Evil Phoenix

its laggy as hell and interferes with typing (the entire device slows to a crawl)

George Edison

03:09

I'll have to see if - wait a second....

Can you please try it now?

The Evil Phoenix

waits for someone to see his edits to askubuntu items

sure, after i recharge the devices

bug me in 2 hours :P

George Edison

I just made a quick change to it...

The Evil Phoenix

lolok

sec

holy god the text and the container are gone!

its all freaking SMALL

i seriously need to give you a screenie to explain it

sec.

George Edison

Try refreshing it a couple of times just to be sure. But I have a feeling that the problem is similar to what I'm seeing on webOS.

Does it look like this:

Lol... it searches much quicker though :)

The Evil Phoenix

yeah

George Edison

03:15

@TheEvilPhoenix But is the search fixed?

The Evil Phoenix

yeah

George Edison

Oh, well... one down... one to go...

The Evil Phoenix

whooo mass updates...

fun... >.>

hey want to see the windows crap i have to deal with daily?

George Edison

Why not :)

The Evil Phoenix

one sec

that happens with the net card

on any unencrypted network

on a daily basis

shows you how shitty Windows is huh

George Edison

03:21

Oh, I get that just watching a DVD on Vista :P

The Evil Phoenix

lol

George Edison

I think I fixed it... this time for real.

I think I got the search and tiny text fixed.

Might need to refresh the page once or twice.

The Evil Phoenix

or just close the browser completely and reopen the page :p

i dont use the cache on this device (hacked os!)

indeed its fixed

much faster and the text size is repaired

see... isnt it nice to have someone who has Apple crap? :P

George Edison

Victory!!!

Thank you for your time and help!

The Evil Phoenix

yep

but of course

George Edison

03:23

So now let's see what's left...

The Evil Phoenix

now i get to scrutinize your styling

>:)

George Edison

Really?

The Evil Phoenix

the title on the header is too long: "StackMobile - Stack Exchange Sites"

the color scheme is weird... black header/footer bars, subheader bars are light blue.

George Edison

Ah, I think I'll just cap it to "StackMobile."

The Evil Phoenix

the options button is too overbearing

George Edison

03:24

@TheEvilPhoenix That's jQuery Mobile's theme :)

But I'll make it a configurable option.

In fact, some day I'll make it so that anyone can write a theme.

The Evil Phoenix

:P

you'll notice i'm intentionally just complainin for the sake of it right?

to keep this room active xD

can we have flackbot just sit in here

actually...

so the room never empties?

George Edison

I get it...

The Evil Phoenix

:p

George Edison

Well, FlackBot only posts when people say something anyway.

So... he would have to be on a timer.

The Evil Phoenix

it just needs to sit here is all :P

George Edison

03:26

You mean never leave?

The Evil Phoenix

ah

yeah, to never leave. nevermind activity, i just dont want the room to empty out and be frozen the next day :P

George Edison

Well, I'll try to remember to stay in here often.

The Evil Phoenix

:P

George Edison

But I can actually bring FlackBot here...

One sec.

The Evil Phoenix

k

George Edison

03:30

I can't get him to bring up chat.stackexchange.com

Hrm...

The Evil Phoenix

heh

George Edison

Pings are timing out.

> "Reply from 130.81.140.228: Destination net unreachable."

Weird.

The Evil Phoenix

your system is imploding :P

or it was banned

George Edison

It's not mine :)

The Evil Phoenix

heh

George Edison

04:18

@TheEvilPhoenix: If you think of it later, please try adding the site to your home screen to see if the site icon shows up and if it looks nice.

The Evil Phoenix

13:19

@GeorgeEdison I will test that later, when i'm not busy :P

George Edison

19:42

@TheEvilPhoenix Thanks.

I've started adding relative times to pages now.

So you'll see '2 minutes ago' instead of 'Jul 1 / 11 13:41'

George Edison

20:25

And I fixed the rep too... 13.4k instead of 13428.

George Edison

20:43

Migrated questions will soon be handled properly.

Roland Taylor

21:10

Hi

@GeorgeEdison does StackMobile use cookies? I was considering having the option to pin sites (under options possibly).

George Edison

21:27

@RolandTaylor No, but it will.

It will allow logging in so that you can keep track of accounts, etc.

Eventually when write support shows up in the API, then you will be able to post answers and comments too.

Roland Taylor

21:48

Oh nice :)

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