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Gao

03:32

woah these studio ghibli style pokemon images of ash and misty look lit!

^actually that arm looks a bit manly lol

1 hour later…

Memor-X

04:55

@Gao well Misty was a Tomboy

and i can't think if there were any Tomboys in Ghibli films. so maybe in that art style they look even manlier

5 hours later…

Gao

10:15

@Memor-X San and Lady Eboshi from Princess Mononoke are Tomboys, but they still have slender body types. I was referring to the arm looking a little bit thick in that image

But man she looks gorgeous in that one, like a girl next door, and psyduck looks kinda more mature and less dumb lol

SPArcheon

@Gao you know both are AI generated, right?

Gao

@SPArcheon I guess so, they look like they're AI generated, but could also be drawn by real people? I didn't search for the source (supposedly come from a discord server using mid journey)

It's probably more the image composition than the art style, but I'd think real artists could try to make their work look more like those generated by AI?

SPArcheon

@Gao found a link for the second one that discloses AI usage

Sakamoto

Q: On what basis does Frieren (Sousou no Frieren) reject the rights of Demons to exist?

Frieren normally has a detached demeanour when it comes to the lives of others, with the sole exception of Demons to whom she sees their total annihilation as a just goal. The reason she often cites is that Demons are beasts that merely mimic human intelligence to increase their survival. Her poi...

culture

SPArcheon

also, IMHO, there are some small give-away.

Gao

10:27

@Sakamoto finally! first sousou no frieren question!

@SPArcheon what do you see are the giveaways?

the cloud background? i can't put it in words

Peilonrayz

@Gao Probably is pretty easy with img2img with a low strength. Previously I wanted to see if you could build up a plain 3d scene into something more impressive and well defined with AI. The tests on line-art -> scene were pretty impressive.

Andrew T.

Ash's hand with Pikachu looks a little weird to me

SPArcheon

- First, the "body" of Misty has weird proportions. Fair to have her "flat", but her back looks unnatural too.
- wrinkling on the pants looks generated, I guess an artist would have it look more realistic.
- size is the classic "AI" square
- single flower near her hand is very blurry. Either draw it more detailed or remove it.
- fingers have some distortion,
- the usual "white dots" in the sky - model learnt those but can't understand what they are

Gao

@SPArcheon ah, the white dots is probably it for me. i could explain some of them away with being pollens, but not the one under her hair

didn't spot that

SPArcheon

@Peilonrayz Not - exactly - the same frame but...

Peilonrayz

10:36

Nice yeah. Getting the 'perfect strength' is hard line between 'same image' and 'looks AI'.

SPArcheon

10:54

Warning, Shantae in (official) Shantae clothes

Peilonrayz

Victory pose after Team Rocket blast off again? ;)

Did you upscale to make the image so large?

SPArcheon

@Peilonrayz Pony XL does pretty good at 1024*1024, but yes, the image is upscaled with RealESRGAN

Pony XL is pretty good. Has some issues since the author tried to "hide" the artist embeddings (both to claim they were playing fair and not promoting style replication and .... be the only one able to use them)

Peilonrayz

Hmm, might have to look into AI art again. Was fun, but took forever! I don't recall using RealESRGAN so playing around with the upscaler could be interesting.

@SPArcheon Hmm, swear the image looks familiar. An older image you possibly posted in your chatroom?

SPArcheon

11:30

@Peilonrayz all the ones I posted today are from my room.

Peilonrayz

Ah my memory must be going if I only recognised one :(

SPArcheon

12:14

@Peilonrayz btw, excluding the use of LORA, I think the pony model is one of the few who actually support accurate generation of Shantae pictures.

SPArcheon

12:54

@Sakamoto Season 1 VS Volume 13: the question

Gao

13:09

@SPArcheon I think the answer is that it's just for personal and instinctual reasons, unless the manga delves into this more

SPArcheon

@Gao vol 13 is around chapter 120, season 1 (including the few unaired episodes or the next weeks) comes up to chap 60 more-or-less

Gao

The manga is published by Shogakukan Asia in the Singaporen regions, I wonder how's the english translation compared to NA publishers?

@SPArcheon and both manga and anime are still ongoing? i know a bit about macht from reading the wikis, but mostly i'll just be waiting for season 2 to come out and consume it

SPArcheon

@Gao there are chapters not yet available in volumes

Also, it is pretty blatant that before the manga ends, Frieren has to change name to ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜, then turn smol and change name again to "Little (Cute) Grass King"

Gao

13:29

???

the manga still ongoing

SPArcheon

correct, and the name change is a joke you didn't get :P

Gao

context please, i didn't get it

SPArcheon

@Gao the clue is still on the star board actually :P

@Gao short version: the joke was that Nahida is smol Frieren.

Long version... you don't want the long version, trust me.

Genshin lore is worse than trying to make sense of Evangelion

Gao

@SPArcheon isn't there a genshin impact anime coming out? would be funny if they're marked related

@SPArcheon i understand. i've long stopped reading gacha game stories because it's a chore and they're usually not that great anyways

SPArcheon

13:48

@Gao the Genshin anime should come out after the finale of Madoka with the wedding of Homura and the titular Madoka (rumors say that someone form this room may appear as a cameo crying in the crowd - it is unclear if because of joy or "it should have been me")

Year 2050 more or less..

Trad: yes, they announced an anime, but we got no more updates afterward.

It is also Ufotable, and I think they only draw one frame/year on average.

> As a reference Witch of the Holy Night, one of Ufotables other projects for TYPE-MOON was revealed in Dec 2021 and didnt get a 2nd teaser until Dec 2023 and doesnt have a release date yet I think. (Touken Ranbu has gone even longer being announced in 2017)

... well, I guess now there is no hope she won't notice the message...

I'll start to run.

Gao

@SPArcheon MAPPA be like ip man fighting 10 at a time

@SPArcheon THIS! Saw the trailer and was like "oh, it's coming out?" then jebaited

SPArcheon

@Gao let me see....

You saw the sheer horror of the trailer for the new (and finally looking good so far) movie for Ito's Uzumaki?

I think that has been "soon" for two years now too.

Gao

14:08

@SPArcheon there was a previous attempt before? the new teaser looks very stylish and faithful to the manga

oh, you meant gyo?

SPArcheon

Uzumaki

Uzumaki (うずまき, lit. 'Spiral') is a Japanese horror manga series written and illustrated by Junji Ito. Appearing as a serial in Shogakukan's weekly seinen manga magazine Big Comic Spirits from 1998 to 1999, the chapters were compiled into three bound volumes published from August 1998 to September 1999. In March 2000, Shogakukan released an omnibus edition, followed by a second omnibus version in August 2010. In North America, Viz Media serialized an English-language translation of the series in its monthly magazine Pulp from February 2001 to August 2002. Viz Media then published the volumes from...

and

Uzumaki (film)

Uzumaki (Japanese: うずまき, lit. "Spiral") is a 2000 Japanese supernatural horror film based on the manga of the same name by Junji Ito. The feature film directorial debut of Higuchinsky, it stars Eriko Hatsune, Fhi Fan, Hinako Saeki and Shin Eun-kyung. The film takes place in a town plagued by a mysterious curse involving spirals. As the film was produced while the manga was still being written and released, it departs from the story of the original work and features a different ending. The film was backed by the company Omega Micott, who released it in Japan on a double bill with Tomie: Replay,...

while the new version is basically "moving manga"

Which is as uncanny as it can be given that crazy man art style.

Gao

lol even ito liked it

SPArcheon

That said, I would have preferred a similar animated version of the cat manga instead

Gao

took 4 years to make 4 episodes and it's still not done...

the cat manga?

SPArcheon

@Gao imagine the same guy making a cozy manga about his cats... in his usual art style.

Gao

14:18

@SPArcheon i remember reading manga about brutally murdered cats. is that done by ito also?

it's giving me creeps

SPArcheon

@Gao doesn't ring any bell.

Gao

@SPArcheon its one of the relatively realistic horror manga i've read. i remember in one panel of a cat's head

SPArcheon

@Gao as I said, the above manga would be totally cozy, if it was not for Ito crazy art style.

Basically he wrote a manga about his cats with the art style of an horror manga.

and the dissonance is very uncanny.

in this scene (WARNING: there is a reason if I put it as a link) he is just jealous that the cat licked his wife finger/hand but refuses to lick his, but the face he makes his he standard crazy face from his horror manga

You know Chi?