Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Memor-X

01:56

lol, that's that .hack is used for, to honey pot the bots

ASCII-only

03:05

yay

github.com/somebody1234/star-thumn

starscript, now with lightbox and imgur thumbnail support

Memor-X

03:20

@ASCII-only what's lightbox?

ASCII-only

Memor-X

@ASCII-only oh

Mysticial

04:27

Wow, just finished Majou Shoujo Site ep5. I've never seen a show with such a high despicable/non-despicable character ratio.

Memor-X

@Mysticial what is the ratio?

Mysticial

@Memor-X There's maybe like 1 or 2 likable people in the show. Everyone else is like ugh...

But that's what makes the show good. lol

僕の彼女

:I

Memor-X

04:58

> User 1: you know what's more cuter than 1 dragon loli? 2 dragon lolis!
User 2: you know what's more cuter than 2 dragon lolis? the dragon lolis being yuris
User 3: ok who the hell is NTRing Kanna from Riko!

curious, is there a second dragon loli is Maid Dragon?

ASCII-only

05:50

@Memor-X IIRC not as of the current anime episode

Memor-X

@ASCII-only well then the likelihood of another dragon loli NTRing Kanna is low

Proxy

06:16

ohayou

Memor-X

@Proxy yo

Morwenn

07:32

Morning!

Taisho

2

Hakase

10:35

norming

I slept the fuck in and when I woke up with the weird sense of having slept relatively well after going to bed at 6 am I confirmed my suspicions, it was HIIII NUUUN

so I bounced to work immediately

thankfully nobody gives a fuck here and didn't notice >.>

Proxy

11:00

wut?

Hakase

nothing whatsoever

> Instead of learning server side technologies like they should, people have mashed and glued together JavaScript into an abomination it was never meant nor designed to be, and they act like everything is fine.

from reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8hetrn/…

Paul White

Given recent events, you all might want to give some thought to whether it is a good idea to post any lolicon here. Just something to think about.

Proxy

@Hakase that is more problem with people using stuff in the wrong way, rather then js

@PaulWhite what happened?

Paul White

@Proxy Nothing lately, which is great :)

Proxy

hm is it connected to the pinned posts here?

Hakase

11:15

@PaulWhite if you click on Taisho's recent posts page, do you see anything you'd think constitutes as flaggable?

I think there should be 30-50 posts in there

I mean if you're in a position to review that list :p

who knows how safe it is for your work

Paul White

It's not really me you have to worry about. I can take a look, but it's not really my opinion that is important.

Hakase

well, so far we haven't seen any recent complaints

Paul White

But given the external drama around the word "trap", it is something to think about.

No doubt that word had never caused any problems before it suddenly did :)

Hakase

I don't think we've used that word since then

no drama here, just our usual stuff that's been going on merrily for years

Paul White

Anyway, it's literally just a heads-up. I have no particular opinion either way.

Hakase

11:17

worst case Taisho gets temp-banned for 1 image for 30 minutes every... 2-3 years?

Paul White

If I had wanted to say "dont post things like x", I would have said so.

Hakase

well, it sounded like you were gonna say that so I had to inquire further :p

Memor-X

actually the only flag i saw raise here for around 8 hours was on a shoujo ai/yuri image

Paul White

@Hakase Yep understood, but no.

Hakase

@Memor-X a flag was pending for 8 hours? or was it 8 hours ago?

Paul White

11:19

I can tell you there was some debate about the suitability of some of the pictures posted here in the all-network moderators room, but no flags were raised or other consequences so far.

Memor-X

@Hakase no, i mean i was on here for around 8 hours and only saw 1 flag

Hakase

@PaulWhite so basically a lot of mods think other users may flag some of the images in the future?

Paul White

@Hakase A few. One or two. It's hard to judge what everyone thinks since they don't always state it in writing :)

Hakase

we get that from practically every outsider mod really

Paul White

Anyway, give it some thought. If you decide everything's OK as it is, sweet as.

Hakase

11:21

everyone is afraid we're gonna get in trouble for it, and we haven't in 6 years or so

Paul White

okidoki

Hakase

no probs

Paul White

BTW are such pictures acceptable on Anime & Manga?

Hakase

of course

we've accepted them for identification for a long time

Paul White

Then that should be ok here as well then. I guess.

Hakase

11:22

btw if you or any of the other mods would like to talk anime or get a recommendation, everyone is welcome to ask here

Paul White

yes thank you

I think some mods don't like to randomly turn up in rooms because people tend to assume something bad is about to happen :)

Memor-X

@PaulWhite well it sorta deserved because when something bad does happen there is a lot of mods involved

Hakase

a lot of our own regulars have become moderators over the years so it's just everyday life for us

Paul White

@Memor-X yep I get that

It would be nice to be able to turn the blue text off sometimes

Memor-X

@PaulWhite switch your chat user's parent site

Hakase

11:26

haha but I don't think the overall moderator community approves of that

Proxy

to jump in again seems i have missed some drama. Is it somewhere documented so i can read it up?

Hakase

I thought Logan said something about that earlier

Memor-X

@Proxy not really to my knowledge

Hakase

@Proxy maybe 3-4 years ago we had 1-2 of Taisho's images flagged and that was all the drama, so meh

Memor-X

@Paul's just giving us a heads up

Hakase

11:27

image selection in the first few months was a lot more objectionable, but they were all uploaded to googledrive and it has since been deactivated, so yuo can't see those pics now

so you can't even go back in history to deliberately stir shit and flag those old pics :p

Memor-X

@Hakase they were mostly Logan's as well

Hakase

yea, and he was there to defend them to an extent

these days we don't upload that flavor of pics

Memor-X

@Hakase well he was always careful which is what i assume of everyone who uploads to @Taisho

Hakase

yea

recently we get non-anime uploads for some reason though

or just vaguely anime-related

but only a small part

Taisho

3

Memor-X

11:31

which is why when the drama happened last week and the user was calling the image pornography i dismissed their entire claim because of the focus on the pornography aspect (by how they were listing off "offenses") without even explaining why it was. when they did i inspected the image more closely and looked at other tags and agreed with their point

Hakase

I still hadn't seen the image in question >.>

Paul White

@Memor-X Yes indeed that is an option, but I also need to moderator chat elsewhere as well so ... it's complicated.

Proxy

how do i get image info :D

Hakase

@Taisho what

Taisho

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Hakase

11:34

#info

Taisho

Bot app memory use: 69402624 bytes. Uptime: 22:39:02.0863582. 23 log files, size: 12561991; 0 archives, size: 0. 276 list files, size: 178724970; 2 archives, size: 35878187.

Proxy

oh ty

Hakase

no that's the wrong info

also I think uptime is actually just connection lifetime, not the app's lifetime

not that anyone ever checks it so that doens't matter

Memor-X

@PaulWhite oh so you loose the power too. yeh that does make it complicated

i thought when someone becomes a mod they switch the parent site to show off their new blue

Paul White

I will just have to explain myself each time. No biggie.

@Memor-X tbh I forget some of the details, they're rather esoteric.

Hakase

11:37

in any case, a moderator's presence shouldn't frighten any experienced users

and it's like this

if anyone is uncomfortable saying something in the presence of a moderator, they should be uncomfortable saying it all the time

since chat history is public anyway

I know there are at least 10'000 moderators reading all the time, just in a private browser tab :p

(hi!)

Paul White

Besides you have JNat who is much more powerful than any of us mere moderators.

Hakase

yea and he's our guy through and through

Gao

@Hakase everything is anime/manga art

Hakase

I think Gallifreyan has added a number of sci-fi arts

from one of the artists who also draws anime characters but not exclusively

Gao

@僕の彼女 You have neglected your darling for over a week. Start connecting now.

New OP is lewd

Gagantous

11:49

hello

eh, morning

Gao

a wild Gagantous has appeared!

2

Gagantous

it's been a long time since i visit this chat

Hakase

loooong time no see

Gagantous

@Gao o/ eyyyyyy

Hakase

how have you been

Gagantous

11:51

@Hakase nice to see you again, with your beloved cat!

@Hakase well pretty good

Hakase

I see you're bountying like there's no tomorrow

Gagantous

life getting harsh... eh hard...

Hakase

hardsh

Gagantous

:444476 it didnt get enough attention... so.... yeah

i need the answer... so.. i am just waiting and waiting .... and i got no result

Hakase

yea not enough active users

you can try posting on reddit

I'd also try forums if you reeeeally need that attention from all corners of the internet

Gagantous

11:56

@Hakase yea, i need that!!!

for my curiosity (?)

Hakase

ok then find some anime forums dedicated to that series

idk any but I'm sure they exist

I'd start with general MyAnimeList and AnimePlanet forums and such

there must be discord chats with fans of specific anime titles

Gagantous

but in my country i cant visit reddit

because it was banned for any isp in my country

try to use vpn

meh

slow connection

Hakase

use opera it has a built in vpn

Gao

huh, aren't you from the same place as darjeeling?

Hakase

it's alright for reddit and light browsing like that

I use it for some of my blocked image boards like one of the -boorus

Gagantous

11:59

@Gao eh, ? i have several question for @Darjeeling

i cant tag him

like imgurl

it's blocked

so icant see any image of your pp

Gao

@Gagantous I don't know if he'll ever respond to you. He rage quitted a few days ago.

Gagantous

mine neither

Taisho

Gagantous

but for some reason i could see Memor-X pp

Gao

@Hakase you said there's 3 ppl who left us after the debacle. who are the other 2?

Gagantous

12:00

@Gao eh ? why ?

Hakase

@Gao Ave, Yokhen and Darjeeling

Yokhen wasn't really coming here regularly for like a year

Gao

@Hakase Ave still lurking there. He stepped down from RO

Hakase

well, I still count all 3 as quitting

Gagantous

what kind of debate that make them rage quit ?

Gao

@Gagantous someone flagged taisho's image and ppl coming here saying we can't use the word "trap" as it is rude

i think that's what happened

Gagantous

12:04

@Gao and than....

ohh okay

so what should we said that instead of "trap" ?

Gao

no idea, make up a word maybe

2

Morwenn

depends on the situation v0v

Gagantous

@Gao LMAO hahahha

@Darjeeling

damn

Gao

we've almost always used the term in situations related to anime, so...

Morwenn

It can be rude when speaking of specific people, but when mentioning anime characters that have probably be designed with that term in mind...

Gagantous

12:08

:'( pretty sad i would say...

Morwenn

let's all start saying "it's a trip" instead :D

Gagantous

just like this video ?

https://youtu.be/HP6nZJsBmE8

Hakase

@Morwenn whoa careful! someone might get offended on your behalf and you'll be temp-banned

Gagantous

@Hakase banned from this site ? or chat ?

Hakase

@Morwenn "it's a trope"

@Gagantous when someone flags a message as offensive and it gathers a total of 5 votes to approve the flag, the message gets removed and the poster is temporarily unable to post in chat for 30 minutes per removed message

Gao

12:10

@Gagantous that's a hard question

Hakase

@Gagantous it's apples and oranges

Gagantous

@Gao ikr HAHHAHAHA i cant stop watch that vid

Hakase

it's like "is a guy who dresses as a girl attracted to other guys?" and look around, it's a convention of cosplayers where a lot of people dress up as characters of a sex/gender different from theirs

it's a pretty dumb question

people think it's funny but it's like 4-year olds repeating a very lame joke

they genuinely consider it funny though and what can you expect from a 4 year old anyway :p

Gao

i never know who Astolfo likes

Gagantous

the comment section are hillarious i would say

Gao

12:13

nor the other characters

Hakase

but from older people I expect some level of brain processing power capable of understanding that dressing choices and sexual preferences are different topics, not defining one nother

(rolls eyes) is all I can do react with :p

Gao

they're like shounen mc who is pure and uninterested in sex

Morwenn

I'm trying to look more like a girl to attract myself, how is that?

Gao

it's how they've been portrayed afaik

Gagantous

yeah regarding that kind of question

Hakase

12:16

well to be fair it's benificial for the artistic image because if you oversexualize evrything out the door, eveybody and their grandma will (rightfully) shout this is all porn and should be banned from production and "the filthy westerners have perverted our culture"

but a lot of the times artist actually don't intend to oversexualize anyone

one may think it's rare but it's more common

@Gagantous yea, that meme...

Gao

@Hakase wat, it's a meme?

Hakase

and it's really how it goes with some people when introducing them to the new interesting world's concepts

@Gao it's a 1 kilogram of feathers video

dude doesn't get that 1 kg = 1 kg no matter of what material

Gagantous

@Hakase it reminds me with the digibro on his channel

Hakase

keeps insisting metal is heavier than feathers but misses the point that it's 1 kg of each

I think the joke wouldn't work as well if they used a much more dramatic difference

like 1 kg of heavy metal like gold and 1 kg of package foam thingies

Paul White

what about 1kg of mint leaves though

Gagantous

12:20

WEIRD ANIME SEX! (and why it's okay)

►

NSFW

Paul White

would they finally make a decent mint tea?

Hakase

@PaulWhite if dried...

yea I think it depends on the mint plant type

Memor-X

which hurts more, a hand full of feathers or a hand full of sand

Hakase

depends at what velocity

and applied to where

and to what surface area

Memor-X

@Hakase the face

the correct answer is hand full of sand, because the sand is pocket sand!

Hakase

12:21

if you turn the feathers with their quill side..

Memor-X

POCKET SAND

►

Hakase

it hurts more emotionally, not physically

also sand grains can differ in size considerably

and be smooth/sharp

and sometimes acidic/basic

sand science!

reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8hb01v/…

windows 10 is a mess

Taisho

Memor-X

funny how @mirroroftruth's showed up and shortly after @Taisho posts that

Hakase

heh

mirroroftruth

12:25

oh a piece of blessing

:3

Gagantous

hey may i ask you guys some question

how could you learn english ?

i mean the grammar, vocab, etc

Hakase

no this is a no-questions web site, questions are off-topic :p

opinions only, no facts allowed here

Gagantous

how rude :')

Paul White

@Hakase so are answers!

Hakase

very unwelcoming!

Paul White

12:26

that's us!

Gagantous

@Hakase yeah i am fine with that

Hakase

duolingo.com

Gagantous

i dont feel like to ask this kind of question in English stack exchange

Hakase

it's good enough for basics but idk if it works well for learning from other languages than English

mirroroftruth

@Memor-X image saved :)

Gagantous

12:27

so yeah...

Paul White

English is weird and hard to learn

Memor-X

@Gagantous to be honest i think if we had an answer to that it would also apply to japanese

Hakase

I mean... you can select your native language in the app and it offers you to learn other languages with exercises translated to your language

eeh

so watch a lot of anime

or a lot of cartoons/movies

Gagantous

@Memor-X HAHHAHAHAH it reminds me

Hakase

with subtitles

mirroroftruth

12:28

what language do you speak, english and what do you want to learn, english

Hakase

and have a dictionary handy so you can translate every word you don't understand

at first you'll be translating more than watching but that's only the first week

Gagantous

@mirroroftruth Indonesian, ( similar with malay )

eh Bahasa, not indonesian

Hakase

very quickly you'll remember all the basic words

mirroroftruth

but the language i speak is not there

Gagantous

@Hakase yeah i have been watching anime with english subtitle for about 5 years

mirroroftruth

12:29

other that japanese which not good

i am better in english than japanese

Hakase

worth noting that sometimes english subs aren't perfect english either

Gagantous

well i am watching horriblesub works

lol

Hakase

ye but they're actually decent

on par with other top subs

mirroroftruth

and it is horrible

Hakase

it's just a meme name

they're good

Gagantous

12:31

well iknow some of it like, co*e sub, do fa**** and other

Hakase

if you see some unknown sub group it's usually because it's a niche anime which you only found because you're watching everything in the retro scifi genre

Gagantous

eh, we dont allow any piracy site... am i right ?

Hakase

no direct links

Gagantous

my bad

ohh

Hakase

but fansub groups aren't pirates

Gagantous

12:33

okay

Hakase

they don't make any pirated content just subs

and translations are considered new intellectual property

mirroroftruth

when watch anime with sub and realize that the sub doesn't match what they are saying and you know that there is not better translation for that sentence

Hakase

now distributing licensed content bundled with fansubs is illegal, so that's how they're associated with illegal activity

Gagantous

@mirroroftruth YEAAHH BOIII

@mirroroftruth like some underated anime....

Hakase

@mirroroftruth sometimes sub groups just say something instead of what the characters are saying and I know because I recognize a lot of the words and the subs don't match

Gagantous

12:34

i couldnt find any fansub other than that

Hakase

presumably this is because the translator wasn't available when the episode was due for release

mirroroftruth

when you start learning japanese you have that time most of the time

Hakase

there's one big problem when learning japanese for me: I can't read

Gagantous

@mirroroftruth yeah, so ican read many untranslated visual novel or manga

mirroroftruth

@Hakase so i watch anime without sub if it is slice of life genre

Hakase

12:36

I've found some textbooks which have only english transliterations, so I can read that

@mirroroftruth better find a japanese sub then

Gagantous

@Hakase lol it's so rare to find

Hakase

to also learn the written form or at least the transliterations so you can be sure that's what you heard

mirroroftruth

but i can't read japanese sub, lots of kanji

Hakase

I've learned a lot of new words by finding song lyrics

they're usually in all 3 forms

english translation, transliteration of japanese and kanji

mirroroftruth

song lyrics helps a lot to remember word

Hakase

12:38

you can still translate individual words to understand them better in different contexts from the song's lyrics

mirroroftruth

but does not help how to use it :'(

Hakase

translation sites offer usage examples

mirroroftruth

but still

there are lots of word which even japanese can't say why they use it

Hakase

romajidesu.com/dictionary/meaning-of-kuuki.html

mirroroftruth

there answer will be nantonaku

Hakase

12:39

@mirroroftruth ask other people then :p

someone who knows

that's just an excuse for ignorance

if you can't explain something then you don't know it

I always look up things so I could learn to explain them to others, but most importantly because it usually reveals a lot of interesting stuff about words and usages

and it helps remembering all that info better

mirroroftruth

no, it is really hard to explain unless you have very distinct example

Hakase

yea, so you find it and figure out why the word is used there in that way

ask on Japanese.SE if you have trouble

mirroroftruth

that takes a lot if time

Hakase

hah

Taisho

mirroroftruth

12:42

@Hakase no, never gonna ask there, just waste of time for me, actually most of the answer i searched there does not satisfy my question

@Hakase i mean if somebody can simply answer within few minutes then i would not bother to search myself for few hours

Gagantous

@Hakase lol i heard that horrible sub works is just a ripped of chuncroll subs, is it true ?

Hakase

@Gagantous maybe, I've heard that about some sub group

@mirroroftruth ask them in their chat then

it doesn't require asking a detailed question

and you can clarify what you want to know quickly

mirroroftruth

chat might help

but....

Hakase

it might not be as active as here though so miight need to wait for some time...

Gagantous

The number of active user that i know since my last visit is decrease

like galifreyan

or avery

or jnat

mirroroftruth

12:47

i think i should learn chinese as my next language

Gagantous

dimitri mx

mirroroftruth

he is here

Gagantous

@mirroroftruth all of them ?

who is he ?

mirroroftruth

beside avery

he is d mx

Gagantous

and i just notice that why there is "handholding" tags in Maid cafe ?

mirroroftruth

12:52

y

Gagantous

understandable

Morwenn

@Gagantous because memes :p

sometimes people like to be bold and lewd, and put it in the chatroom tags

Gagantous

@Morwenn i can imagine that :)

mirroroftruth

i don't understand that meme also, teach me sensei :(

Gagantous

because it's lewd ?

well i kinda like it

Morwenn

12:55

the meme basically says that handholding is lewder than any kind of porn or physical relationship

Gagantous

mirroroftruth

thank u senpai :D

Morwenn

so you can find big-pixel-censored pictures around the interweb of people holding hands

mirroroftruth

#post another yuno

Taisho

mirroroftruth

12:59

i said yuno not you only know

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