Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Unihedron

13:21

@Gallifreyan send a letter

Vogel612

ohai @Morwenn

Morwenn

hi

Memor-X

It's time for me to ramble on about the Totalbiscuit situation for a little over 15 minutes

►

i do keep forgetting he's not only sick but very sick

Unihedron

who's totalbiscuit? O.o

Vogel612

@Morwenn I keep wondering whether you've seen Emily L's latest question on "recreational template programming"

Memor-X

13:23

@Unihedron hold on, did you just say that elsewhere?

Morwenn

@Vogel612 nope, I haven't look at questions on CR in months :/

Unihedron

I may or may not have, what do you mean?

Morwenn

same for SO, except maybe for work

Memor-X

@Unihedron just saw the same message on Discord

anyways, TB is a Games Critic

Unihedron

well, I'm curious about what makes him important, and the guy in the video just honestly admitted he doesn't have anything interesting to say

right in the opening

Memor-X

13:27

@Unihedron well for Sid Alpha, later in the video he points out that TB inspired him to start his own channel and that TB was one of the people who signal boosted the while DMCA Situation with Alex Mauer

anyway was posting the video to signal boost the video about TB's situation

Unihedron

still don't know who he is, oh well

Memor-X

@Unihedron well there's not much i can say really. just that i have his Co-Optional Podcast running every weekend when i work on my game

Ave

@Unihedron he's a big youtuber

Sakamoto

0

Q: Why there are no a online store that sell a manga in pdf version?

What i mean was like, i have bought a copies of One piece, but i have to use some apps to read that, while i have bought it with a full priced. For example i bought a manga online on some random online bookstore. The price for the digital version of that manga cost about $7, for the physical vers...

manga-production

Yokhen

@Ave rack is offensive to women's chest. Be nice gurl

Ave

13:41

@Yokhen blegh

Yokhen

Blegh back to you

😚

Vogel612

@Yokhen tread lightly

Yokhen

13:56

@Vogel612 do you think I care? Any heavily policed place is not worth it at all.

Vogel612

kinda twitchy with all the drama across the network, you know?

Yokhen

@Vogel612 Yeah heard it was hilarious.

Vogel612

for some values of hilarious, yea

for some values of sad it was also sad ...

so there's that

Mithrandir

If you don't want to participate in a place that is moderated, then perhaps indeed this is not the place for you.

Taisho

Unihedron

14:12

@Ave oh.

Sakamoto

1

Q: Why is Luffy's smile so different in his latest wanted poster?

I don't remember which chapter this started in, but I've noticed that his smile is not as wide as usual. It's very different from his wide, rubber-skinned smile. Now it looks more like a girl's smile in One Piece. I know it doesn't matter much but could there be another artist besides Oda who is...

one-piece manga-production

Dimitri mx

@Mithrandir Moderation in moderation. If anything the current moderation is showing another form of elitism, which does not help with the 'welcoming' trend.

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Unihedron

14:32

I feel bad for laughing to that...

Mithrandir

@Dimitrimx In time, everyone will find a happy balance. :)

Dimitri mx

@Mithrandir If there are people left to enjoy it. :)

Yokhen

@Dimitrimx 😂😂

Unihedron

I miss when krazer would make us all gather together to watch anime on saturdays :(

I mean

it only happened twice officially, but it lasted for a few months through discord

Yokhen

I still watch animu with krazer.

Vogel612

14:38

@Unihedron go gather people to watch anime ?

Yokhen

He's just a nutcase like all of us

Dimitri mx

Should get him to join the discord :)

Yokhen

If I remember right he didn't feel appreciated enough or some bs.

I've asked him multiple times to rejoin to no avail

Maybe if people were more proactive, he'd feel like coming back but even when I watch animu no one but kroozer joins 😔

Dimitri mx

I tried to join you last time when you gave an invite.
You never approved of me joining ;(

Yokhen

Wut

My shit don't require approval

Maybe it was over and no one was in the room

Dimitri mx

14:44

ur rabb.it? It did.

Yokhen

Weird

Imma booty call kroozer so we can watch some with ya

Dimitri mx

Last wednesday. 9 pm or so. Tried to join, asked me to login. Logged in, told me that I was awaiting your approval D:

Yokhen

@Dimitrimx sorry 😓 I swear sugoi tori land is open for everyone, not just tori

Dimitri mx

sugoi tori land ._.? You linked to yokhen

Yokhen

I b Yokhen

Dimitri mx

14:49

b Yokhen sugoi tori land?

Yokhen

Yesssssssshhhhhh

Dimitri mx

そですか

Yokhen

So I see your notifacion in rabbit but can't find anyone named mxd

I wanted to freund you

Dimitri mx

probably d3ullist.

Yokhen

Sweeeeeeet I added u

Dimitri mx

14:54

I accepted you ;)

Yokhen

😍

Unihedron

ah

I completely forgot about rabbit

Yokhen

😑

Dimitri mx

@Yokhen Being a bit rebelious is ok. However, that was not, uncalled for even..

Unihedron

15:09

returned too late to see what was removed, use discord if it was important

Vogel612

@Unihedron wasn't

Hakase

lol wot did u du

has some shit gone down while I was asleep?

gonna have to read the transcript

Unihedron

people being people

Hakase

I don't get it we just talked about not stirring up shit and being cool

Taisho

Hakase

15:13

pff haha

stuff started happening exactly after I went to bed

daayum why

@ASCII-only me too

I thought it's just a meme term which doesn't get used in real life, only in humorous contexts

dayum that reddit post and all its comments

that's totally different from my view of the word

ASCII-only

yeah :| i thought it originated from the anime community, if anything

Ave

It's really insulty, yeah.

Trans people get called a lot of not very nice words, that's one of them.

ASCII-only

0/10 @animecommunity why did you have to use an existing word

Hakase

I guess it always depends on the intention

I would never get offended if called that by someone affectionately

it's not the word, it's the intent

but I suppose the number of people who think it is a very bad word outweigh my point of view, so using it on stackexchange is not a good idea

I get it, but it's dumb

Ave

thing is

when you get insulted as often as visible trans people you can't really bother with checking intent

Hakase

15:24

completely understandable

I don't think anyone here means it as anything derogatory

like in the case of one of the messages which caused flags earlier

Ave

That's true, but again, read this message

5 hours ago, by Ave

While the regulars of the room were not offended by the use of that word when it was used in the last couple years or so, someone was offended enough to flag it, and that's understandable due to the negative connotations the word has. I think that instead of fighting against the mods etc here, we should sit down and think a bit about how we can continue the existence of maid cafe while maintaining a friendly and welcoming environment here.

Hakase

yea I'm slowly going down the transcript, it's gonna take maybe 20 minutes

and I"m gonna need a cup of tea

I get it and I'll comply with the new strict regime

this is a public place after all and we can't complain when its rules change

Toshinou Kyouko

It doesn't really hurt anyone to just use different words to express their points

Hakase

if anything we say here becomes offensive, I guess we'll have to move elsewhere if we wish to continue doing things our way

it's interesting in a way

I've read yesterday about examples of users posting things I would find offensive without anyone explaining it to me

Toshinou Kyouko

@doppelgreener I like your avatar

Hakase

15:29

but then there are things you wouldn't find offensive if someone didn't explain what has happened in the outside world while you were busy doing your thing here

Toshinou Kyouko

for sure, it's all about context

Hakase

uhh I just read something else yesterday :p

Toshinou Kyouko

like, shortening Japanese -> Jap seems an innocent change at first glance, but then there is the context of that being used as a slur in wartime

I will do a big read tonight too :)

Hakase

oh you stopped being a mod

僕の彼女

I can only imagine what the mods are going through now lol

Toshinou Kyouko

15:33

yeah, i'm back to being a common tomato

Hakase

(can't find the link right now) but in short, sho9 and some other staff/CMs have said (in context of the scifi room meltdowns) that each message has to stand on its own without context

僕の彼女

not only for this site, but all of SE and SO

@Hakase which is kinda dumb

Hakase

there was also a comment about how anything posted in chat should be to further the goal of the site, and that is to help people find answers to questions

"anything that goes against that goal should be removed"

that's how it is :p

this isn't "our" site, it's someone else's and we have to obey their rules

僕の彼女

and that's why I'm migrating everything to discord :)

Hakase

I get that and it's cool

I don't think we're doing anything rule breaking here yet though

Taisho

15:35

僕の彼女

@Hakase can you kinda open source Taisho so I can probably port it to discord?

Hakase

the chat api is not gonna work for discord by default though, you'll have to figure that out yourself

and a lot of code depends on message IDs which idk if discord has

僕の彼女

yeah, I just want the logic for image posting :D

ASCII-only

@Hakase yes

Hakase

I can give you the current code version but please don't publish it anywhere, it's very dumb and I'm not proud of this iteration

ASCII-only

15:38

obviously

SE's API is total garbage, Discord's can't possibly be worse :P

僕の彼女

hah, true

Vogel612

@Hakase at this point I'm going to plug CodeReview.SE

ASCII-only

Side note, I've used Discord's C# and JS APIs. They're really nice.

Unihedron

@ASCII-only inb4 you get called out for being not very constructive

Hakase

@Vogel612 yea they'll propose a way to perfect the code which would take me 2 weeks of work straight

it's working, it's fine

ASCII-only

15:39

@Unihedron >_> it's not like I can do anything to change that though

Hakase

but I don't want my name associated with it in the professional world

Unihedron

Gahaha

ASCII-only

@Hakase or I could do it because I don't want to hurt my eyes :P

also since I have way too much free time for my own good

Hakase

then why would you want to spend it on modifying something that already works

make a game or something

I made my onenote viewer app in roughly 8 hours and it's working well enough for my needs

I needed it for gamedev note sorting

I got 6800 notes which need to be reviewed but the notebook structure doens't fit on the screen, so yea

I don't think anyone in the world uses onenote as extensively as I do

and this is pretty basic usage

so I gotta wonder how it got so much attention from the ms office developers to get to where it's at

ASCII-only

@Hakase yeah i'm working on a lot of things. most of them i'm not working on because 1. stuck on design decisions or 2. my brain hurts from overthinking or 3. i'll realize how bad of an idea it was soon

Hakase

15:42

@ASCII-only you keep doing it for 8 years and you'll have something to show for your efforts :p

I'm probably on about year 7 of my efforts currently

ASCII-only

@Hakase yeah too many things to show

and they're all basically useless

Hakase

I've made manga downloaders for probably every hentai reader site :p

wouldn't call them useless

ASCII-only

@Hakase 0/10 they should be unified into one

Hakase

more like 0/14

a lot of them are one-time use since I usually get the entire site and forget about it

Unihedron

should had made your own hentai hosting site

Hakase

15:44

yea who's gonna compensate my hard drive IO loss?

ASCII-only

@Hakase this is what I use WinHTTrack for

Hakase

I don't think there's any need to track anything about that though :p

ASCII-only

oh i've been doing things on glitch recently though

Hakase

I haven't even seen 5% of everything I've downloaded

ASCII-only

@Hakase tbh i'd be surprised if you did

if you're downloading entire sites

@Unihedron *hyperdrive

@Hakase IO loss?

Hakase

15:47

if I host it on my desktop and people use it, I'm not gonna get anything done

also I'd need a dedicated connection too

ASCII-only

@Hakase solution: use hyperdrive (well, dat). it's like a torrent except you can change it. then once someone else syncs it you won't have to open hyperdrive again until you have more things to add

Unihedron

@ASCII-only wow I've never heard of this

Hakase

also I don't want anyone to visit my home and confiscate the hardware for a security check and then lose it

ASCII-only

@Unihedron you mean glitch?

Hakase

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gonna need some links

Unihedron

15:50

yea

Taisho

ASCII-only

@Unihedron have you been living under a rock it's made by the people that cofounded Stack Exchange :P

@Hakase link. although I think IPFS is more popular atm, but 1. not sure what features it has and 2. that's only necessary when you want a URL

Hakase

a lot of things made by people who cofounded SE are unheard of, like ths SE podcast >.>

ASCII-only

@Hakase that's true

Unihedron

@ASCII-only oh that explains it

ASCII-only

15:55

Well, I actually didn't know it was made by SE people. I just found it and started doing stuff on it >_>

Unihedron

for like a year I really liked stack exchange, then my passion flipped backwards after a series of events that we shouldn't bother recounting right now so I slipped away

Hakase

is there like a directory for all the shared files?

a search? a tree view?

ASCII-only

@Hakase :| you can only share a directory, not a single file

Hakase

I mean not like a folder on a computer, but like a categorized listing

@Unihedron is it because of the people?

it's always coz of people, isn't it

damn people!

Unihedron

nah, more like cuz of myself

it helped me realize how useless I was

really puts me back in my place

Hakase

15:58

ah, that is deeply familiar to me

ASCII-only

@Hakase well there's a browser. should have all the functionality you're looking for

Unihedron

Me too thanks.

Hakase

ur welcm

僕の彼女

@Hakase github

Hakase

huh what hub?

@ASCII-only what functionality?

僕の彼女

15:59

github.com this?

Hakase

@ASCII-only are you familiar with DC++ sharing?

ASCII-only

@Hakase directory listing, search. not too sure about tree view

Hakase

a lot of ISPs have local area hubs and install the clients for each customer and explain how to do the illegal sharing

ASCII-only

@Hakase no

@Hakase wait. wat?

Hakase

or like any torrent site basically, it's got a search and some categories

@ASCII-only look up DC++ on wikipedia, it explains everything

what I want to know is does that DAT thing have some viewable categories where I can look for files and add my own

tags/categories

is there a gui at all?

Toshinou Kyouko

16:02

@ASCII-only that's p cool

ASCII-only

@Hakase yes. but only via an entire browser

Hakase

or is it just a url-only filesharing thing

alright I'll check it out later

ASCII-only

@Hakase as in a list of all files? no, since it's completely peer-to-peer (no hubs (well, yet, at least))

Hakase

so how do you discover other peers and their file lists?

ASCII-only

they use the BitTorrent peer discovery network

Hakase

16:03

hmm

nhahtdh

@Hakase Sound like XDCC in IRC, but not chat based

ASCII-only

and yeah you have to share URLs to get file lists

well, since it's open source anyone could start a directory list and add a browser plugin for that

nhahtdh

Might as well run a XDCC bot on IRC

If you need the "community" part of it. If it's just between a few person, DC++ or Beaker Browser are indeed interesting option

Hakase

@ASCII-only woudln't the users be against that?

someone publishing their file lists without permission

ASCII-only

@Hakase yeah the thing is nobody knows the URLs so people can't do that

Hakase

16:07

just… google for them?

ASCII-only

@Hakase they're not on the internet though. like torrents

Hakase

torrent links are all over the internet

what are you talking about

either magnet uris or torrent files

ASCII-only

@Hakase yeah. but only because someone posted them there

Hakase

yea

but also someone may never post a link but if their client publishes it to the DHTs it finds, it can be seen by other DHT users

Taisho

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Hakase

16:09

or is that not how it works?

ASCII-only

@Hakase hmm. i guess that's true actually

Hakase

I launched it, it's a browser

I have no links so idk

ASCII-only

there's an intro video on the site on how to use it

Hakase

ok so you have to share the urls some other way outside of this thing for anyone else to download anything

sounds pretty bad

and this "create a site!" but how do you find those sites that other people built?

ASCII-only

@Hakase well not if you use HTTPS with chat :P

Hakase

16:18

I gotta ask what problem does this solve?

(I'm gonna need some tea in here)

ASCII-only

@Hakase Well actually it was intended to be a versioning system for massive amounts of data

Hakase

oh

does a regular git repo not work for that purpose?

ASCII-only

it works, but it's not nice

the thing is though, they didn't have versioning last time i checked

Hakase

16:33

lol

so I guess they created an easy way to create private "sites" and share files securely

ASCII-only

essentially, yes. i think it's one of the few true p2p file sharing methods

Hakase

I wonder if transmission speed is weird like over bittorrent or as fast as it can be, limited by your channel

idk much about much but "true" doesn't feel like applies here

you'd still need to be connected via some relay if neither of 2 peers have a public IP

something something nat punchthrough idk

кяαzєя

oh boy what happened now

Hakase

oh hello

кяαzєя

hello.

僕の彼女

16:36

flags?

ASCII-only

@Hakase hmm. actually i think i heard them mentioning this. idk what happened though

@Hakase well, "true" as in serverless (or as serverless as possible)

@Hakase well, it does use the DHT

Hakase

well… bittorrent isn't server-dependent in a way? idk how DHT works but it seems to be hosted somwehere

ASCII-only

@Hakase yeah. you have to enter though a bootstrap node because you don't know anyone else's IP

IIRC hyperdrive/dat can actually use alternative servers as bootstrap nodes though? but yeah one way or another it's unavoidable

nhahtdh

Bittorrent starts with tracker, where you get a list of nodes, which bootstrap DHT to discover more nodes, which might be configured to avoid connecting to tracker

ASCII-only

@nhahtdh yes. but dat only uses the DHT

Hakase

16:40

I know that you can still download torrents without having a single tracker url in the link/file

the torrent client uses dht instead

but how does it connect to the dhts?

does every client come with an updated list of latest dht ips?

nhahtdh

@Hakase You can only do that after you have some nodes in the list

ASCII-only

@Hakase the DHT has a permanent server

nhahtdh

@ASCII-only Is there?

Hakase

so you can disrupt the entire thing by blocking it?

@nhahtdh doesn't seem so in my experience

ASCII-only

@nhahtdh well, not permanent server, but close enough. here

nhahtdh

16:43

@ASCII-only Well, looks like they provide a server to bootstrap DHT

Hakase

I think I've read about hosting your own DHT

nhahtdh

On the Japanese side of P2P, Share and Perfect Dark uses DHT exclusively (or some form of it), and it requires a list of bootstrap nodes to even start working

Hakase

wonder how that works and how much space it takes, bandwidth uses and cpu consumes >.>

Taisho

nhahtdh

@Taisho New Game, Monogatari, Your Name, Re:Zero. There are 2 girls I can't quite recognize

@Taisho What

Taisho

16:45

Uploaded (UTC): 16.11.2017 23:41:26 by (132581) Gao, tag:
http://iqdb.org/?url=https://i.imgur.com/ICVAHwR.jpg | https://whatanime.ga/?url=https://i.imgur.com/ICVAHwR.jpg | https://www.google.com/searchbyimage?image_url=https://i.imgur.com/ICVAHwR.jpg | http://tineye.com/search?url=https://i.imgur.com/ICVAHwR.jpg | http://saucenao.com/search.php?url=https://i.imgur.com/ICVAHwR.jpg

Dimitri mx

@JNat You up for a chat?

Hakase

@Dimitrimx is it about taisho?

Dimitri mx

no

Hakase

:44334462 I was never able to use that site for whatever reason

Dimitri mx

:44334462 Take a good look at anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2659/… svp

nhahtdh

16:48

The one in front is Girls und Panzer, and on the left in the back is Love Live Sunshine

Hakase

I see links to it on reddit all the time but I'm never able to access the pages

僕の彼女

@nhahtdh right

the back one felt like Love Live as well

Hakase

@Unihedron what do you mean by distinct users?

#post status

#post tags

um

oh that's what it was

nhahtdh

@僕の彼女 The girl in in the far back between Rem and the right on the left is from Your Name

Hakase

you know how sometimes you're typing text and then some notification pops up and grabs focus and you're hiting space and space is basically [enter] in most GUI apps, so it gets closed instantly and you're like wot

well that must have been some exception from taisho and he ded

#post status

Taisho

16:52

Post module status: Enabled. 15 minutes after the previous post, Post module will start checking if 50 messages have been posted since, and then wait 40 more seconds after the latest message before posting. Links unposted: 792, links posted: 11960, Total: 12752. Image count by user: Gao: 751; Gallifreyan: 39; Avery: 2; Next post is due in 49 messages.

Hakase

wish I implemented some sort of "approximately enough for X more weeks"

僕の彼女

where are the text files for img source for taisho?

Hakase

you mean the json files

they're on my computer

Unihedron

@Hakase distant... sorry!

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