Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Memor-X

13:00

@Darjeeling was that Nekopara?

Hakase

I just don't know if that's something that could be researched coz you know asking kids such questions is not really very professional and could be taken wrong by their parents

Darjeeling

don't know..

Hakase

− hey mom this professor here wants to know if I like pubic hair

Darjeeling

@Hakase do we really need to resize to thumb size 300x300 or is it fine as long as the size is small

Hakase

@Darjeeling it doesn't matter if the file is of reasonable size

Logan had pics of several megabytes worth so it was a problem then

Memor-X

13:01

@Hakase yeh that'll get you fired.....and a visit from the cops

Hakase

basically if you can upload it on stack, and it has 5mb limit, it's ok

I guess you could simply ask in a facebook poll and get pretty reliable data

coz kids hang around facebooks a lot

Darjeeling

yea the last picture original size is 68 MB, and the one I post is 80 KB, so I guess it's fine then.. now I just need a way to bulk upload it...

for Taisho of course

Memor-X

@Hakase and some of those kids are actually cops so chnaces are you'll get a visit from the cops

Hakase

oh btw guys it's the 1st

not sure if google's calendar is on 1st already tho

Darjeeling

13 hours ago, by Darjeeling

seems like Taisho is still working

Memor-X

13:05

@Hakase 1st of September? i know, it's been like that for the past 23 hours for me

Hakase

pics seems to be still working but let's wait until tomorrow

@Darjeeling oh that's what that was about

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A: Why is Mew numbered 151?

Ok aside from the what is stated in the video games, if I remember correctly, new was more of a myth and thought to be at the very most extinct. Dr. Fugi who had already been working on cloning and went in search for any remains of mew. After having found what he thought to be fossilized new rema...

arda

@Hakase prep to replace googledrive.com/host/ with ardao.me/host/ until we find them a new house

(add that to post code or whatever)

(ardao.me is on DO so I'm not breaking MS ToS)

Hakase

what's do

arda

digitalocean

Hakase

is it related to ms somehow or is it a completely separate thing?

arda

13:16

@Hakase completely separate

Hakase

let's wait one more day to make sure it's even gonna stop working

arda

testing

Memor-X

@arda i initially got "The requested URL /host/0B7wViSUJzkHcV3BrVk5PT2ZESDg/185_thumb.jpg was not found on this server."

Hakase

a bunch of youtube drama vids popped up as usual and guess what

the good guys make it short, some even under a minute

arda

@Memor-X thumbs are not ready yet, will do now.

Hakase

13:21

the bad guys make it just over 10 minutes long

coz of the aaaaad reeeeveenueueeeueue

Taisho

Memor-X

@Hakase is it about CS:GO Lotto? quite sure that Horse is still juicy with blood

it's no fun to beat a dead horse when there's no splash back of blood

Hakase

no it's about the new profanity and "not advertiser friendly" de-monetization rules

so bloody right now

Memor-X

@Hakase rules on youtube?

Hakase

community guidelines

arda

13:23

OOOH that's awesome changes imho

they're using it against the hate channels

Memor-X

@Hakase youtube community?

Hakase

they're blindly using it against everything

@Memor-X don't ask me I'm not following things so closely

it doesn't fix hate channels either, it just prevents monetization

arda

@Hakase if they don't earn money, they won't make vids

Hakase

which is bonkers coz a lot of really big channels technically break those rules and that will lose youtube a shitton of cash

those hate channels are not earning much coz they don't have comparable viewer counts

arda

@Hakase hahaha no

Hakase

13:26

unless it's like leafy and keemstar but they break other rules like witchhunting and the like

arda

a demonetized video:

Hakase

looks like youtube didn't think through the distinction between saying profane words and instigating witch hunts

arda

that was a witch hunt vid tho

Hakase

every time I see a video over 10 minutes now I know that it's 100% guaranteed it's watered down artificially to get that extra ad in the middle, which I can't even see coz of adblock, but the vid is so much worse off now

out of 6 of these new drama vids, 3 are under 1 minute, 3 are over 10 minutes

guess which 30 minutes don't get watched at all

arda

I use ublock

Memor-X

13:30

@Hakase how would a video longer than 10 minutes have more ads? i see the Co-Optional Podcast and generally there's only 2 Youtube ads and one sponsored ad TotalBiscuit adds in himself (most times he made the video but when it's Crunchyroll he just gabs their ad)

and the video is between 2 - 3 hours long

Hakase

quora.com/…

Dimitri mx

@Memor-X You can crank up the amount of ads on youtube. To display as much as 12 ads in a mere 15 minute video.

arda

make me stop

I made a terrible mistake

HoiHoi-san

HAMMERTIME!

arda

I read youtube comments

Hakase

13:32

support.google.com/youtube/answer/6175006?hl=en

ye I don't wanna talk about this anymore

let's change the topic

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/…

arda

I'll go and watch korra.

Hakase

creating an "audio system" for a thing that only produces sound from one point and placing it sideways on the table

Memor-X

@arda yes you should

Hakase

also f u if you use speakers in the office

Memor-X

@arda don't you know better that those are generally shit

Hakase

13:34

HP are geniuses of some bad kind

Dimitri mx

@Hakase Do headsets loud enough to be heard in the whole office count as speakers ?

Hakase

absolutely!

those open design ones which you can hear just as well on the outside as on the inside

Dimitri mx

@Hakase Then sue me, I love my logitech h800 boom box

Hakase

hope you sit alone or that you have exquisite taste and everyone around you loves it

arda

@Memor-X I do

Memor-X

13:36

@Hakase try fiddling with a HTML to PDF script and make it bug out that command prompt hangs and generates a weird tone noise.....only learning at that moment there are speakers in the screen and your not muted

Dimitri mx

Don't sit alone, but the people around don't seem to mind )

Hakase

but technically though you could get a stern talking to from hr for causing disruptions for others

Dimitri mx

company is not that strict luckely.

Hakase

@Memor-X I once listened to an audiobook in class at uni and the phones weren't plugged in all the way and it was on speaker for ~10 minutes and nobody around gave a fuck including the professor

Dimitri mx

thats amazing on a whole new level

Hakase

13:38

yea I was sooooooo spooked when I realized it

was wildly looking around but 0 fucks in the vicinity

Darjeeling

plays some anime theme song and see if people still don't mind

Hakase

I bet they'd smile a bit and still not react much

Taisho

Darjeeling

depend on the song I guess

Memor-X

@Darjeeling Play the Panty and Stocking with Gaterbelt OP

Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt - Opening HD

►

Hakase

13:40

I still gotta watch that

Dimitri mx

@Hakase try watching queens blade/ boku no pico. fucks will be ginen./

Memor-X

infact i remember a Critically Miss comic where a girl takes notice of cool music coming from an Otaku's ipod and when she goes to listen, at that every moment Panty and Stocking plays

Hakase

I just skipped a whole lot of classes in the later years

arda

thumbs are up

Hakase

Memor-X

13:45

FOUND IT!

NOTE: it's reads left-to-right

Hakase

yea like usual

idk I kinda automatically switch based on art style

also the rightmost frame doesn't look like the establishing shot so it doesn't seem right to start with it

Memor-X

@Hakase what? reading left-to-right or when you show off your music to a girl it always witches to the most inappropriate and weird song in your list

Yuuki

Item in the new WoW expansion:

Memor-X

@Yuuki for realz?

can WoW do that?

Yuuki

@Memor-X Blizzard makes tons of references.

@Memor-X And yes, this is from Wowhead, which datamines the game.

CuddleBunny

13:53

could also be a GM item, I know in RO GMs could make their own custom items

Yuuki

There are very few GM items in the game and I think they've deleted most of the ones that did exist.

And the ones that are wouldn't be statted out like this.

CuddleBunny

I see, I didn't play WoW for more than a couple days, never got into it

Sakamoto

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Q: What's the title of this song from Sekaiichi Hatsukoi 2 episode 2?

What is the OST at the beginning of season 2 episode 2 where onodera used to fantasize about christmas exchange and cakes?

sekai-ichi-hatsukoi

CuddleBunny

I was here: crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/08/31-1/… :D

can see the giant robot she had

@ about 5:25

Matt

14:39

Afternoon~

Hakase

it is indeed after noon

Ikaros

Yo @Matt

CuddleBunny

still 10:42 am for me

Matt

15:45 ish

Hakase

17

technically it is always after or before some noon

CuddleBunny

14:45

true

Matt

I think it's kinda bm that people are downvoting some of the mod questionnaire answers, I get why mine was since I covered it in gifs but there's nothing wrong with the 2 on the current page

Ikaros

15:00

@Matt I don't even get the point of downvoting this

Sakamoto

15:14

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Q: Where is Maria's "Double Contract" referenced?

I read somewhere that Maria has a "double contract" with her Symphogear. I searched on the TV episodes, but found nothing. Maybe it has to do with the fact that she can wield two different gears (Gungnir and Argentlam). So a few questions: What is this "Double Contract" exactly? Why is it spe...

senki-zesshou-symphogear

JNat

15:31

@Ikaros Probably people just disagree with what's written? Kinda like they'd upvote it if they agreed with it, no?

Voting there's irrelevant, in any case

Either up or down

Matt

Idk, there's a lot of questions for someone to blanket disagree. And even then it's the candidate's opinions. It makes no difference but it shows it in a bad light, the fact they're ordered and not randomised like the election page shows the popularity curve, which can affect people's votes

Ikaros

@JNat Yup

JNat

@Matt I get that, but what I mean is that's not a problem with downvoting the answers. It's a problem with voting being a possibility at all

But, there you go

Taisho

JNat

Was that me?

@Taisho tags

Matt

15:39

@JNat Yeah

JNat

#tags

Taisho

Uploaded (UTC): 10.03.2016 11:05:15 by (38771) JNat, tag: Plastic Memories

JNat

it was

thought so

@Matt So, though I get why you said you didn't get why people downvoted the answers, it would have been just as valid if you'd said it about upvoting instead: "I don't get why people upvote some answers but not others..."

Right?

Matt

@JNat Yeah, that's true

JNat

It'd be cool if we had a way of seeing how that voting influences users, but I'm not sure how we'd do that

Matt

15:43

Since it's anonymous I doubt we could, you'd be relying on people's honesty

JNat

true

Matt

I mean I'm happy to share my votes after the election is over, but one guy isn't going to tell you much

JNat

Yeah, it was just a "it'd be cool" kinda thing, not even a "I should consider looking into that" kinda thing

Hakase

@JNat you should ask the devs if they can make them randomized and disable voting

I wonder if mods have access to such functionality

JNat

@Hakase Just for this one usecase?

Hakase

15:57

well, it's a freaking important use case in my opinion

Toshinou Kyouko

@JNat can i get the ability to rig the vote

4

Hakase

how often do we have mod elections

Toshinou Kyouko

that's what people in power do

Hakase

sure, just upvote the guys you like and downvote the rest

already implemented :p

Toshinou Kyouko

:P

yeah i agree tho

Hakase

15:58

I'm telling you it has real influence

Toshinou Kyouko

downvote and upvote are basically two votes

cuz you can change that ranking by that much

Hakase

a lot of people vote just because they can and don't think much about who they vote for

this is why anonymous voting is bad in general but that's a talk for another time

JNat

@Hakase I'd say those people aren't likely to even bother looking at the answers to the questionnaire. They likely just go to the election page and do their thing

Hakase

yes, and especially because of that we should reduce the chance of skewing those rogue voters into voting for the top voted questionnaire posts

it would be useful not just for us but for every future election ever

JNat

@Hakase Would you care to make a post on MSE about this, then? It'd be good to have the input from all over the network on this

Hakase

16:01

I'd even discourage passerby voting by putting some notice like "you seem to have low activity on this site, so if you don't know who you're voting for, please just move along"

I'm not good with words

if you want me to be the poster you could write it up and I'll post it

JNat

You seem to have worded it pretty well here, I'd say.

Hakase

alrighty then

JNat

You see a problem: voting on Meta answers to the questionnaire can impact the voting from users who likely just vote 'cause they can.

And that's pretty much it

Hakase

yea, I guess that's enough

JNat

It can be solved by maybe disabling voting on the questionnaire, modifying the sort order, or maybe trying to figure out a way for the questionnaire answers to be on the actual election page, rather than on meta

But implementation details are exactly why it'd be better for this to be debated out in the open, where everyone can weigh in

@Hakase If you word it in the right way, this kinda thing may also be included in your post.

"How can we minimize skewing from rogue voters in elections?"

Or something of the sort

Make it a discussion, maybe, and not a feature request. Unless you have the actual feature thought up, I guess — up to you ;)

Hakase

16:11

I think I'll make it two separate posts

Taisho

Hakase

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Q: Prevent mod election skewing by randomizing all election-related post ordering

There is an election currently going on a site which I'm not gonna name to prevent passerby voting and additional skewing caused by the following: Mod Election Questionnaire answers are ordered by vote totals by default (evident from visiting one in anonymous browsing mode). It can be (and I sus...

feature-request election

for your consideration

JNat

@Hakase I'd remove the first paragraph

Hakase

I agree

JNat

People who want to mess up the voting, can easily find out waht elections are around and just do their thing

Hakase

16:19

yea

Matt

If someone really want to mess things up they're still going to be able to, no matter the amount of randomness we add in - it just means they need more research

+1'd the Q

Hakase

ah yes JNat can't vote he's involved :p

one more reason I don't wanna be a mod

free voting pew-pew-pew

Matt

Saw this on imgur, gave me a chuckle

Hakase

it's bad not to have a day

JNat

@Hakase can't vote on what?

Hakase

16:23

exactly :p

JNat

@Matt which is still good, since it minimizes easy trolling

Hakase

wow I got a downvote on that

not gonna ask why

I know

it's the manipulators

Matt

@Hakase they're here

@JNat Oh yeah, it's definitely a good thing, it didn't come across too well in my message

arda

16:39

@JNat elections

or can you?

JNat

Sure I can

The same way mods can

The fact that I work here does not mean can't be a part of the community

arda

@JNat mods != cm but meh, I don't care tbh ala you have same vote weight

Toshinou Kyouko

Jnat is a person too

JNat

Yeah, it's the same weight. The same way mods' votes have the same weight, which is the point I was making

arda

@ToshinouKyouko can only persons vote? in that case, you can't vote, tomato!

JNat

16:41

You vote as a user

not as a mod or cm or whatever

Toshinou Kyouko

@arda noo

arda

@JNat I know, it is usually not allowed, which is stupid imo

JNat

@Hakase It might be 'cause of the last paragraph, now that I think of it (the part about making the questionnaire mandatory part, not the including it in the election page part)

@arda What do you mean by "usually not allowed?"

Hakase

@JNat ye I removed that

arda

@JNat not on SE, but usually on (not national) elections etc, people who are part of the team are not allowed to vote, which I find weird

Toshinou Kyouko

16:45

obama gets a vote

JNat

@arda Like, people who are part of parties can't vote?

That's weird

Never saw that anywhere, to be honest

arda

again, I don't mean national elections. I saw some examples of that but can't remember, give me some time to think.

Hakase

16:58

getting killed here :/

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Q: Reduce mod election vote skewing by discouraging passerby users from voting

I have many accounts on SE sites with little or no activity, and I get invitations to vote in their elections despite of that. Sure, sensible users will not vote, but sometimes they will, just out of curiosity or because they don't know how much their vote matters. And many people like that votin...

discussion election

Michael McQuade

@arda do you mean like how McDonald's employees aren't allowed to play the McDonald's monopoly game?

Matt

Most companies have things saying that you can't participate in things where being an employee gives you an advantage - like the mcdonalds example, and my company forbids buying shares outside of the company share incentive plan

Hakase

why do you gotta be snarky like that, shog

Taisho

Matt

Votes don't really have any extra weight from mods or SE staff though as they're still community members

Hakase

17:05

is it the attitude you found to be the best to make people get on your side faster?

doesn't seem nice though

Matt

Ik, it's not great

He didn't even get what you were saying properly either

Hakase

(addressed to shog, he knows)

arda

@Matt ah, this. I was trying to say this.

Hakase

I know, right?

arda

@Matt ikno, that's one of the best things about SE

Sakamoto

17:10

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Q: When Obito awaken eternal Mangekyou Sharingan?

Spoilers if you didn't see episode 473 of the anime yet:

naruto

Hakase

you just have to be annoying to deal with to a certain degree to filter off anyone who isn't committed enough to a goal, frustrating everyone in the process

Matt

@arda Yeah, a bunch of my mod questionnaire from last year was about how mods were still community members

Hakase

I'm not a fan of that approach but I suppose at this scale it might be the best way to communicate with the masses

The SE team can get numbers, anonymous numbers, about votes. What I'm not sure they have numbers on is how much, if any, research a user does before voting. Without those numbers, we don't even have proof this is a problem. Which is kind of my point- Without numbers saying otherwise, I really doubt this is a problem. I'm sure plenty of other users are going to/do feel the same about this particular issue: It's not a problem. — Kendra 1 min ago

well, that is kinda the point, yes

I'm not committed to pursue this any further

Matt

@Hakase They've worded that badly, they're saying it's not a problem because there's no numbers saying explicitly

Hakase

basically there are no numbers saying either way

which is why I'm frustrated

shog doesn't wanna explain any details

he just says it was bad

Matt

17:15

Yeah, it doesn't say either way

Hakase

I guess we have no other way than to blindly trust what he says

Matt

I can see the frustration

Hakase

I'm kinda not cool with blind trust

it would be interesting to learn about this

Matt

There's definitely something to be investigated here

Hakase

we certainly have no access to that information

Matt

17:17

Maybe add a survey after the voting for people to say how much research they did (It's going on honesty but it's a start)

Hakase

like they would never lie in the survey :p

I could see something like a poll asking for people to say if they were voting without research

in my experience people are more likely to pretend they did good than bad

I'm no statistician but I bet the group of people who voted and the group of people who would see such a poll would be pretty different

poor actual statisticians, having to deal with skewed votes everywhere

they probably have methods to refine the results though

Matt

We just need to spy on everyone

Sakamoto

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Q: Can the Soul society exist without the soul king?

It was once stated in Bleach by Urahara "Urahara details that without the Soul King's existence, Soul Society would be rent asunder. The Soul King is the "linchpin" and if that linchpin is lost, then the world would simply crumble away and that is the way of the world " Wiki ! N...

bleach

Hakase

bubblegum-style

Matt

Aug 17 '15 at 21:08, by Hakase

I'm Hakase! I spy on everyone! No big d!

Hakase

17:21

that's a direct quote from PB

JNat

Possible duplicate. — JNat ♦ 4 mins ago

Hakase

as seen on this page adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/The_Cooler/Transcript

JNat

^^ CVs, maybe

Hakase

idk anything about naruto so I'll abstain

Toshinou Kyouko

Resumes

Hakase

17:25

I wonder how people who have to deal with big toxic communities feel

I've heard some points of view from game developers and how they have to stay away from the internet for a while coz things get too nasty

there's phil fish

yea that's a common enough practice from what I've read

big youtubers have talked about visiting mind guys

Taisho

Hakase

there are steam and blizzard forums which are huge

half of the posts are from banned users wherever you go

haven't played any real dotas so idk

interesting

I think I've read something about that

arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/…

Tonepoet

@arda No! How could you ... ! How could anybody ... ? It's quite time I taught you a lesson with my ultimate attack! Oh wait, B.R.B. I have to go charge it up for ten episodes. Please patiently await your penalty until then. (Said as if reading the comments wasn't punishment enough.)

Hakase

very cool

ultimate attacks should always be pre-charged

oh man what I just found youtube.com/watch?v=cBCcmuT99p8

@JNat I just noticed Princess Bubblegum's initials are the same as Possible Duplicate

ok I'm dumb or something

Tonepoet

@Hakase I remember that show ever so vaguely. Specifically there was an episode where the worm alien things were trying to decode some statement from other members in their species who spoke in a different dialect...

Hakase

17:36

that's PD

I'm a stupid stup

JNat

o.0

Hakase

@Tonepoet I remember how they love coffee and are extra useless in every situation

the intro though is the best

Men In Black cartoon intro

►

mm that tv grade quality

shame other vid has pitched tempo for the music

Tonepoet

Hmm, I don't think I watched it on Nickelodeon though. Come to think of it I'm getting flashbacks of the ~~C.C.S. dub~~ bowdlerization.

Hakase

well, I've lived my entire life in russia and I've seen it all on vhs

arda

hype

GOD DAMNIT

This show is so anime-ish that I feel like watching an anime with english dubs

Hakase

17:49

did pinball get unpinned?

it looks and moves like a western cartoon though

arda

@Hakase yeah, having 20 different dev tools open at the time made my taskbar hate me

@Hakase well yeah

Hakase

new voltron is drawn in that "anime-ish" technique and I don't hear anyone calling it anime

probably because everybody who has heard about it knows it's western in origin

but there's still the eastern aspect of martial arts involved

and the animals as different combat styles

avatar and korra outright have asian aesthetics

@arda have you tried 2-layered bar with small icons?

arda

@Hakase I might try that

Hakase

it's what I've been doing for years and it's plenty of space when I'm doing lots of things and it has window names which is super helpful

I think Bunny here has the same layout

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