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19:00
Tag for old series?
We should try to normalize tagging language
When should we use the Japanese title, when should we use the English one?
Or we use any and create synonym for all of them
I have no clue what to do about this unless the mods are willing to make synonyms every time.
I think we should use the english versions, even though they might be less popular in some cases
we currently have been using the most popular title, regardless of the language
and creating synonyms whenever necessary
19:02
sometimes it's a pretty even split though
I'd prefer to use the English version when an official one exists. But sometimes that doesn't happen until after the series airs, so we'd need to change the name for those tags.
@ToshinouKyouko Sometimes I only remember the Japanese title, but that's the only problem I have
but I think @ʞɹɐzǝɹ had some more defined thoughts on this matter
@Frosteeze I have the opposite problem
at least you would have to remember english
(I personally don't care which one is main, as long as both tags exist)
19:03
There will be a need for making synonyms
I dont think we can get away without that anyway
I don't mind merging and making synonyms, but I am not aware of all the tags and their other versions
So here's what I think that should be done
yes, always and regardless of any normalisation
When you guys see a tag that gets created, flag it with the alternative name
A moderator will gladly merge/synonym it.
@MadaraUchiha yes, agreed
19:04
Only mods can do the work, but all of you can do the detection.
That's fine with me
As for policy
sure, but new users won't know this - this should be written somewhere
@ToshinouKyouko what?
@JNat basically what @Logan said, but we should check at regular intervals, like monthly and make sure the tag wikis are up to date
19:05
I think that, as long as both versions exist out there, the more popular one (read, the one that's more likely to be searched with Google) is the one that should appear on the question.
@ToshinouKyouko Well the synonym thing is up to regular users more than new users
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ I'm actually thinking about making a bot to automate this.
@Frosteeze new ysers eventually become regular
some*
Make a meta post and be done with it?
19:06
There are some rare cases with the "always use English names" policy where a series can have 2 or more English names.
Making a meta post about it is always good
you could probably get a bot to make synonyms by querying MAL or something
25 char limit
e.g. Asobi ni Iku yo. Do we need a special policy for that?
a lot of alternative titles are way beyond 25
19:07
sure, but it would still help
Titles beyond 25 characters are to be discussed on meta.
anyway we cant do that presently
@LoganM Japanese as main, both English ones as synonyms, IMO
I think that's a system that works well and there's no need to change that.
@MadaraUchiha agreed
19:07
As for which is the canonical, I think that "the most popular" is still the right choice.
Especially if the alternatives be synonymed.
who is the judge of that though
also a note about long tags
we should shorten them wherever possible
personally i would think Jojo's bizarre adventure is more popular than JoJo no Kimyō na Bōken (an example)
@ToshinouKyouko I would agree
The thing is, don't sweat it
If we use one of them, and it turns out the other is more popular
@ToshinouKyouko The first got twice the results on Google
19:09
we change it
and synonymise
That can be a quick and dirty measurement.
I don't think that we should bicker about it too much.
We determine quickly which is the more popular.
If someone has an objection, just yell on meta.
Moderators can rename tags pretty easily.
@MadaraUchiha and if, for some reason and on a special case, we don't, meta it
@MadaraUchiha yes
so tl;dr staying the same apart from flag to add extra title?
Is everyone OK with that?
Works for me.
19:11
yes for both of the above
👍
excuse my inactivity as i make dinner
So our conclusions from this:
1. We tag according to which is more popular, and synonym to alternatives.
2. Please flag posts with eligible tags without synonyms with the alternative name(s).
3. If anyone has an objection towards the naming/priority of any tag, post on meta.
Next topic por favor. @JNat -dono
(No problem here, usual process, since this is not doable by regular users)
@MadaraUchiha We're over one hour now, and what was pressing for this discussion has been discussed. Maybe we leave it at this, and hand out the link for the survey.
Unless someone wants to add something
IMO
Unless we want to say anything else about the id-reqs again
since the tagging issue was settled easily and quickly
Don't do it
Its a trap
19:14
What about the H-stuff?
Let's put it to a vote.
If you'd like to continue with the discussion, please star this message.
If you'd like to end here and schedule another meeting, please star this message.
I cannot star on my tablet
But I vote #2
@ToshinouKyouko Voted for you.
so we're tied with 3 votes
@MadaraUchiha how @_@
19:16
@JNat 3-2. Madara voted for TK.
@Eric oh, ok
@ToshinouKyouko RO/mods can star own messages.
Those who wish to stay to discuss may stay
By pinning and unpinning (star remains)
19:16
Huh
anyone wanting a break should watch animu or read mangos
The next topic on the table is community engagement
In my opinion that should take a whole session
Oh
I thought it was more id-req stuff
Agreed.
wait, what about link to survey? for people leaving
19:17
When's the next meeting if we were to schedule another one?
I don't mind continuing other topics
So we'll probably skip that one for now, and move on to the H content
@Jnat where do we take the survey?
I think keep it pg + spoilers
Anything not PG-13 should be behind a link labelled NSFW in bold.
19:18
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ what do you mean?
@Eric I thought we can't link to NSFW things period? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/19395616#19395616
Alright, again, let's make things clear.
@JNat link to the forms
According to the content policy, but aside from my own posts I don't really care whether people do or not.
The Stack Exchange user policy allows users of age 13+ to join and participate in the site.
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19:19
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ How do you think we've been doing? Do you want to see us take a new direction in this new year? Let us know you thoughts here!
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This means that anything that is rated above 13 should be said carefully.
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ -dono, please edit it into something fancy to star and have it on the side
that way people who weren't here can still participate
There is a big difference between NSFW and H
NSFW is anything an average person wouldn't want on his screen at work
And H is, in my books, anything rated 18+.
H is a subset of NSFW.
19:21
What if u work in pornhub
So while NSFW can sometimes be okay
I think that, at the very least, we want those not be oneboxed and labeled
@ToshinouKyouko only if you do QA for them
As for H content, I hereby cast a veto on flat out pornography. As I see fit.
A line must be drawn, and this is where I put it.
19:23
Are we talking about for chat, or the main site?
What is your distinction
@Eric main site
or both, actually
As much as this is a chat, and we're having fun here, this is still under Stack Exchange and this is a system that expects some degree of professionalism.
From the policy link: Accounts that use Stack Exchange to post sexually explicit or pornographic material, or links to it, will be suspended.
Either way, as long as stuff is labelled NSFW and linked, I don't care what it links to.
19:24
I don't know what we mean by "flat out pornography". Taken literally, that would seem to ban lots of major series including e.g. .
If you'd like to share porn open an IRC channel.
is sexually explicit != pronographic?
@GaoWeiwei I wouldn't say so, but the law may
@GaoWeiwei It shouldn't be. Ecchi isn't hentai or porn
explicit = showing genital (?) not sure myself
19:25
What about questions that don't refer to anything super explicit
@LoganM I don't think there's a problem with discussing non-explicit material.
@MadaraUchiha by labelled you don't mean tagged, right?
@GaoWeiwei They aren't the same, strictly speaking. Pornography is sexually explicit material produced for the purpose of sexually stimulating the observer.
But post naughty pictures == big no no.
Or links to naughty pics
19:26
@JNat Here in chat, it's labeled
Depends, but I recently linked to the official website of a VN
@Yuuki Right. I'm okay with things that are censored even if they are porn
As for QA, extreme care must be taken.
!!define explicit
And you know what to expect in there
19:26
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ explicit Very specific, clear, or detailed.
For example, a documentary might be sexually explicit without being pornographic.
I don't want to ban all hentai questions, because there are merit in those questions.
But we must take extreme care with those questions.
So just ones that have link/pics/overly explicit language?
@ToshinouKyouko No.
Can u clarify then
19:27
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Imagine if someone were to describe 2g1c or BnP in a question
And not do it professionally or carefully
But flat out say "And then she ate her shit, and then they fucked each other's brains out" or a similar thing
That falls under language no?
Hey spoilers
I think it may be a saving spoiler though
In any case
Here in chat, I will personally enforce that.
So if question is educational and no pic/link showing sexual intercourse, it'll be fine?
As for QA, I don't think there's any other way than decided on a per-case basis.
@GaoWeiwei Probably.
19:29
quick! everyone flag him! (don't actually do this)
What if I ask about BnP like:
How does SE enforce that rule on human biology and sexuality sites?
@GaoWeiwei probably through mods
@GaoWeiwei It typically doesn't.
A hentai where there is love between X and X and there was a scene where NOTEXPLICIT happened
19:30
At least not literally.
@GaoWeiwei There was a sexuality site, which was closed down
@MadaraUchiha agreed. Despite the nature of the content and the cares we need to take because of it, they should be regarded as any other question. Point in case, an id-req question that asks for a hentai should only be closed or downvoted as any other id-req question would be (putting aside the language and possible image cares we'd need to take).
@GaoWeiwei Sexuality was shot down, as for Biology, I'm not sure.
The sexuality site was a special case, since it was only 18+.
@GaoWeiwei not explicitly
19:33
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Strictly speaking, biology.stackexchange.com/questions/24298/… is sexually explicit, though not pornographic, as are many of the questions they have there tagged [sex].
so looks like we have a consensus, summary if you will, Sr, JNat
Wait
Can I have my above question answered
So we're all agreed on this matter? H questions should be taken care of on a per-case basis (regarding the hiding and editing of content and language), but otherwise allowed and treated as any other question, both in terms of closing and/or voting
@ToshinouKyouko i think it's ok to ask that
@ToshinouKyouko it's fine
19:34
OK, then I'm fine with your proposals
@ToshinouKyouko allowed, and regarded as any other id-req question
(Not planning on asking this question btw :p)
@LoganM I was making a ironic pun with there being no specific rule on the explicit stuff
Once again, then, should we move on to the next matter, or wrap it up?
We've been at it for 90 minutes
19:35
Next up would be the allowing or not of Japanese language on questions on the main site
Vote below, please
Carry on
Wrap it up
As in: anime-related ones?
if no more votes are cast, I guess we'll wrap it up
@ToshinouKyouko Yes, written in Japanese
@MadaraUchiha that, yeah
19:36
@JNat Not answer?
Oh, like the question written in Japanese?
@nhahtdh Posts in general.
@nhahtdh questions and answers, yeah
@ToshinouKyouko yes
Ok, the votes are up, and we're gonna wrap it up for today
Yeah wrap it up until A&M .JP is up :p
Alright folks
Thanks for participating
19:38
Thanks everyone for participating today
Please take a moment to answer the survey linked to on the side bar
We need another meeting. Next week I won't be here at this time, though.
We will schedule a new meeting
We'll schedule another meeting in the near future
Stay tuned.
Probably not for next week
19:38
@Hakase celebrate by turning on Taisho :O
@MadaraUchiha this, yeah
#pantsu enable
Pantsu module enabled.
meeting adjourned
Shabadadu
19:39
#pantsu
Sexy
her eyes are so big because it smells like paint very hard in that room
Get high off paint
Hmm wait I thought you were going to sleep early
19:41
and I'm feeling like that girl right now
to the bed!
a meta regarding everything discussed and our conclusions will be created during this week
And the conversation is bookmarked for future reference, as usual (part one and part two)
@JNat post it!
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ done
19:59
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Not on my microwave
20:28
Next season of Ping Pong will play in that table*
Once you get the hang of it, that wouldn't be a whole lot harder.
It seems to be easier than flat table ping pong
The convex shape ought to focus the balls toward the center.
Although you could do some difficult-to-defend drop shots where you first hit the top side of the table and it drops to the bottom.
Actually, now that I think about it, if you get the hang of it, with the right spin you could pretty much instantly kill any shot on a table curved like that.
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21:08
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^This guy understands what's really important in life.
@LoganM he is quite enlighten, this one. we have much to learn from him
He does have a girlfriend though. He just needs to notice her first
21:24
> my waifu is a can of coke
^ @Frosteeze, 2015.
Speaking of noticing girlfriends, anyone else notice the CGI in Saekano? For me it's really noticeable and not at all good. Without it the series would probably be a lot higher for me.
 
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