Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Madara Uchiha

19:00

In Naruto, it's the one with the more complex/cooler eyes.

iKlsR

well..

Madara Uchiha

In Dragonball? It's the guy whose pants are up higher.

iKlsR

I still don't think Ichigo should have beaten Kenpachi

Madara Uchiha

Logan M

@iKlsR You realize you can star yourself, right?

Madara Uchiha

19:01

I'm not kidding.

iKlsR

Yay. I got starred. Liek if u cry evrytim 2. yolo swag

@LoganM I can't, I can pin.

not the same really. :P

XD wut

Logan M

@iKlsR Pin, then unpin

iKlsR

ah

Madara Uchiha

@iKlsR Apparently, Pin - Pin = Star.

Eric

@LoganM Don't teach him! >_<

iKlsR

19:02

:D

Logan M

@Eric I'm sorry!

iKlsR

:D

Eric

@iKlsR Nothing new here! :)

iKlsR

ahaha.

Eric

Honestly, I have no idea why, but @iKlsR and I have some kind of turf war. And it's awesome.

iKlsR

19:03

@Eric I'll be moving in soon.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric Madara approves.

Eric

@iKlsR Wat.

iKlsR

@ton.yeung wat?

yolo

In another universe I just arrived home.

Madara Uchiha

3 messages deleted

Eric

Aw, Madara ruined it all.

Madara Uchiha

19:09

@ton.yeung It is

iKlsR

@Eric nice handwriting.

Madara Uchiha

That's Hughes

Logan M

Aug 8 at 1:44, by Krazer

mod abuse!

Eric

Yeah. It's when he's afraid that the 3-year-old boys are going to put moves on his daughter.

Madara Uchiha

@LoganM You forgot the FTW!

Eric

19:09

@iKlsR I get that a lot. xD

iKlsR

@LoganM YES!!

Logan M

@MadaraUchiha Blame @Krazer

iKlsR

@ton.yeung me too. Liek if u cry evrytim 2.

Madara Uchiha

Aug 8 at 1:44, by Krazer

mod abuse ftw!

That's better!

iKlsR

heh

Logan M

19:10

room topic changed to Anime and Manga: General discussion for anime.stackexchange.com and now with more clientsfromhell.net [clients-from-hell] [comic-sans] [markdown-ate-my-baby] [memes] [mod-abuse] [off-topic] [papyrus] [poor-design] [random] [swag] [yolo]

iKlsR

@ton.yeung I'm a mainstream C++ guy.

Madara Uchiha

iKlsR

Cannot be unseen.

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Quick slacking off and go deal with the queued flags.

iKlsR

cannot be unseen

Madara Uchiha

19:12

@Eric Alright.

Eric

o.o

Madara Uchiha

Done. Want me to go again?

iKlsR

eek.

Cannot be unseen.

Madara Uchiha

@iKlsR I should ban you for that.

5

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Nope, there's at least one.

iKlsR

19:12

D:

Madara Uchiha

You just lowered the average IQ of this room by 0.1.

iKlsR

ermagherd.

:-'(

Logan M

4 mins ago, by Logan M

Aug 8 at 1:44, by Krazer

mod abuse!

iKlsR

anime-watchers-from-hell

Madara Uchiha

@Eric There isn't.

Eric

19:13

@MadaraUchiha Cheater.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric I didn't cheat. The flag wasn't there when I looked, another mod already handled it :D

iKlsR

@ton.yeung wat?

(removed)

Eric

@iKlsR -_-

Logan M

@Eric BTW for that flagged post, why wouldn't that question be banned according to the meta post.

Eric

@LoganM "Banned" is a pretty harsh word, but I suppose it would be considered off-topic at this point, yes.

It is unfortunately sad that we will lose some questions like this, but it's hard to justify leaving ourselves open to them.

Logan M

19:16

@Eric Yeah I at English not good

Eric

@LoganM You speak pretty good much.

iKlsR

Seems there are a few sites in the grad queue.

13

A: Why is Graphic Design still Beta?

Graphic Design will graduate... as soon as our designer Jin can get the new skin together. It's currently in line behind two other soon-to-graduate sites. I hadn't mentioned it because it still could be a while yet - Jin is only human! - and we didn't want to get anyone's hopes up. But, since yo...

Madara Uchiha

Nicholas flamel?

Wasn't that the guy from Harry Potter?

Eric

Nicolas Flamel

Nicolas Flamel (; prob. Pontoise, ca 1330 – Paris, March 22, 1418) was a successful French scrivener and manuscript-seller. After his death Flamel developed a reputation as an alchemist. However, these legendary accounts only appeared in the seventeenth century. According to texts ascribed to Flamel almost two hundred years after his death, he had learned alchemical secrets from a Jewish converso on the road to Santiago de Compostela. As Deborah Harkness put it, "Others thought Flamel was the creation of 17th-century editors and publishers desperate to produce modern printed editions o...

@MadaraUchiha Yes and no. He was adopted for Harry Potter, but is also a real person:

Madara Uchiha

Yeah, but he didn't exist in FMA, right?

Eric

19:19

He's never mentioned in canon, except that the alchemical symbol is called the Flamel.

Logan M

@iKlsR Top of the queue is Salesforce if I understood the podcast correctly.

Eric

@ton.yeung ._. ...

@ton.yeung Nothing... just going to go back to coding...

Logan M

#2 in the queue is harder to figure out. There are a bunch of sites which could graduate at any time based on stats, like Academia, German/French Language & Usage, Music, Movies & TV, The Workplace, and Bitcoin.

Eric

We're actually getting reasonably close ourselves.

Logan M

@Eric The thing that will hold us back for a while is our number of 10k users.

(currently 0)

Eric

19:25

Yeah. Everyone, go upvote Krazer.

@ton.yeung Many things. Currently, PHP.

Madara Uchiha

@ton.yeung ...

Eric

@ton.yeung Custom.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric One single question.

What's the line you write to access the database?

@ton.yeung That's... normal.

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Access, as in, query? Or access as in connect?

iKlsR

what color do you want the database?

Madara Uchiha

19:26

It's the people who are obsessed with frameworks are the ones I don't get.

@Eric connect.

Eric

@MadaraUchiha

$db = new DatabasePDO($CONFIG['db-host'], $CONFIG['db-username'], $CONFIG['db-password'], $CONFIG['db-database'], $CONFIG['db-prefix']);

Madara Uchiha

@Eric Sounds horrible :o but at least it's PDO :D

Eric

Not what you expected, is it? :P

Yeah, I am partly hating my custom framework lately.

Part of it is new, part of it was built 2 years ago.

Madara Uchiha

@ton.yeung It's like people never done JavaScript only jQuery.

Eric

So it has some horrible legacy stuff.

Krazer

19:28

@MadaraUchiha I've found that most ppl can't do ajax w/o jquery~

Madara Uchiha

@Krazer Many people can't do anything w/o jquery.

iKlsR

wee!! It's a @Krazer

Eric

@Krazer I can, but it SUCKS.

Madara Uchiha

It's a frighteningly accelerating trend.

@Eric It doesn't SUCK as long as you don't support browsers you shouldn't support.

Eric

@MadaraUchiha I support IE8+.

Madara Uchiha

19:30

@ton.yeung I disagree.

Eric

@ton.yeung I have had 10+ years of experience. lol

iKlsR

Vanilla JS is the most boring thing ever. Sips CoffeeScript.

Madara Uchiha

I believe that people should not use a framework, until they've at the very least, mastered OOP PHP.

Not a second before that.

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Why OOP? PHP4 worked fine.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric PHP4 is dead for over a decade.

Eric

19:30

(I love OOP, but I don't think it should be a restriction.)

Madara Uchiha

Most, if not all, frameworks nowdays are OOP.

@ton.yeung Not really.

Eric

@ton.yeung Erm... how? lol

Madara Uchiha

Not using a framework in production is a consideration I can usually take.

Eric

Of course, but robust security testing is essential to using a framework, too.

Madara Uchiha

@ton.yeung Why, do you think frameworks are more secure than normal PHP?

Eric

19:31

You can just as easily screw up security by relying on a framework.

Madara Uchiha

If so, you're delusional.

Eric

Just ask anyone using MySQLi and string concatenation. ;)

Madara Uchiha

It's your code that needs to be secure. Regardless of framework.

@ton.yeung All the basic attacks have very very simple solutions.

SQL injection is a matter of using prepared statements, and nothing else.

MrPineapple

@Logan M thank you :)

Madara Uchiha

And it's more often than not, more simple to implement prepared statements on your own then using a framework.

I very often go all MVC commando and start up with a short template I've made, and nothing else.

Sure, I reuse critical parts of the Model I've written before, such as the Authorization service, etc.

But more often than not, I prefer to not use a framework.

MrPineapple

19:34

There's a time and a place for everything~

Madara Uchiha

@ton.yeung Again, it's your code that needs to be secure.

Not the framework's.

Alright, let's continue this over in the PHP room if you want.

chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/11/php

No, but it's on-topic there more than it is here :D

Logan M

@MadaraUchiha This room is tagged as off-topic so IMO it's fine.

Eric

It's also tagged as random...

Madara Uchiha

@Eric Potatoes.

Eric

100 calls to rand(), for your viewing pleasure.

Madara Uchiha

19:38

9

Eric

9, 9, 9, 9, 9

Madara Uchiha

Logan M

Madara Uchiha

@LoganM SPACE?! SPACE!!!! WANNA GO TO SPACE! SPACE! HEY LADY, LADY, WANNA GO TO SPACE? LET'S GO TO SPACE.

Eric

SPACE!

Logan M

19:42

@ton.yeung Clannad VN

Madara Uchiha

Oh great, he's back.

Eric

imgur must hate us.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric "us" being... "you".

He knows :P

Eric

> "us" ~~being~~ including... "you".

I fixed it for you.

Krazer

@ton.yeung the mcrib?

Madara Uchiha

19:45

@Eric imgur doesn't hate me, we're on good terms since the last meteorite.

Eric

@MadaraUchiha That was yesterday.

Krazer

@ton.yeung if you so desire it

Madara Uchiha

Why do you say they hate us?

Eric

@MadaraUchiha I'm pretty sure we upload more high-res images and random garbage than Reddit.

Not just our channel, all of SE.

Logan M

@Eric Our image density is probably way above average for SE

Eric

19:47

@ton.yeung Racist.

@LoganM Indeed. And we have Thrills n Spills.

Logan M

(not just chat, but the site too)

Eric

@ton.yeung Probably, since they have their own subdomain.

@ton.yeung That's exactly what a racist would ask.

Krazer

@Eric sounds sexist

Eric

@Krazer O noes, you're racist too!

@ton.yeung ... xD

Krazer

@Eric what are we racing for?

Eric

19:48

Krazer

@ton.yeung the chinese are racist against everyone, even themselves

Eric

@Krazer Are they racist against the human race?

@ton.yeung Who?

iKlsR

CLIENT: What the hell is that?

ME: A drawing tablet?

CLIENT: DO YOUR WORK WITH A MOUSE. That thing creeps me out!

Krazer

@Eric they are racist against the race

@iKlsR this seriously can't be true

Eric

@ton.yeung I... what the hell...

Logan M

19:50

Eric

@ton.yeung Oh, I have no idea. Google probably does.

Me either.

._.

►

For those that have 32 minutes, watch it all. If you don't, watch from 8:35 for fifteen seconds or so.

iKlsR

> "Can you make it 20% less mysterious?" clients-from-hell

Eric

@iKlsR Look at the comments for that one.

@ton.yeung It's a DS stylus.

It's a resistive touchscreen. lol

Some of the knock-offs he reviews, idk how they even sell.

iKlsR

@Eric yh I saw.. XD

Eric

Even if they're $5, they're useless. Internet doesn't work, SIM doesn't work, no storage, can't use the camera. Most of them just don't even work as a phone.

iKlsR

19:58

A client requested a .jpg screenshot of the website. After sending it…

CLIENT: The links don’t work in this version. I need you to activate all the links in the jpg.

Danalog

20:10

I think our channel tags are eating our favorited quotes alive.

It's not going to matter if people ever get starred if you can't see the starred quotes anymore!

Eric

@Danalog Get a taller monitor.

Or turn its orientation 90°.

We're not regular people.

Krazer

@ton.yeung anyone in a school uniform

@ton.yeung katana or melon pan is mandatory

Eric

@ton.yeung Hiraga Saito?

Good choice! ;P

MrPineapple

20:27

The problem with 'regular' characters is that they're usually harder to recognise

Krazer

@ton.yeung go Sket-dance then~

Sakamoto

0

Q: How does Gankutsuou compare to the original book

Gankutsuou is based off the story - The Count of Monte Cristo I haven't read the original novel, but I loved Gankutsuou. How close to the original are the plot line and characters? Was it a faithful rendition or was there some artistic license, because there were several scenes which , to me...

gankutsuou

MrPineapple

If you crossplay really well, no one will suspect a thing ;)

Krazer

@MrPineapple girls pull it off better than guys

@ton.yeung how about angel beats then?

Madara Uchiha

20:50

clientsfromhell.net/post/6498199270/…

Oh wow :o

MrPineapple

@krazer true

iKlsR

21:01

oh man.. I have a burning question coming up ;)

Eric

@iKlsR -.-

Like this one?

iKlsR

@Eric nope, not as much ;)

Eric

@iKlsR Then it's not burning enough! xD

iKlsR

XD

Eric

@ton.yeung ... lol. That's the way to be

iKlsR

21:06

just finished taking the snaps, now to write!

MrPineapple

@Jon Lin thanks for the answer! Interesting

iKlsR

Hopefully people can understand that question. My mind is a bit full of wat atm.

I might also have answered that a bit, strange answers only pop into your head when you are nearing the end of the question.

Eric

21:31

@iKlsR I think you did, actually.

lol

iKlsR

@Eric That's some serious heat. Anyways looking for credible answers where it can be shown again.

iKlsR

21:53

@JonLin congrats on 8k site rep!

Sakamoto

4

Q: What exactly happens to a titan's body after it is killed?

I just started watching the anime and I haven't read much of the manga so I don't know if it is explained further on. We all know a titan's body gives of extreme heat from an encounter Eren had with the colossal titan and an episode where they learnt this in class. In episode 6 When Mikasa kill...

shingeki-no-kyojin

Logan M

@Sakamoto Just saw an ad for this question.

iKlsR

@LoganM eek. where?

Logan M

@iKlsR Math SE

iKlsR

ah

@ton.yeung eek?

Logan M

22:02

I already got rid of the tab so I can't printscreen it.

iKlsR

> Used when scared, introuble,impatient, angry or ust generally distressed ('eek' Is suposed to sound like a mouses cry)

ha. This is in the collider

9

Q: What are the cats watching?

So I came across the following picture in chat. What anime are the cats watching? Even cats love anime.

identification-request

Eric

@iKlsR LOLWUT

Logan M

@iKlsR Anything with that many upvotes in a day which is answered is going to be there.

iKlsR

oh nice, we also have a question from blender too. been a while since i saw one.

I don't go there often. Damn math and tex

Everything is a breakthrough -.-

Logan M

On anime we often get one or two on there. But they rarely make it high enough to bring in more than a few clicks.

Eric

22:08

@iKlsR Go ask any high school math question on Math.SE. Tag it soft-question and you'll probably hit the collider.

iKlsR

@Eric lulz. it's like science yo

Eric

@iKlsR Do you ever? You seem to post those a lot. lol

iKlsR

nope

Eric

Figures.

iKlsR

XD

Logan M

22:11

@Eric The one on top of the collider right now is something that everyone should know from middle-school level statistics, but clearly from the answers there even some "math experts" didn't know it.

I'm pretty sure the Scifi question about anime I answered recently got pretty high on the multicollider. I can't imagine my answer getting to +19 any other way.

> We shouldn’t have to pay you for this, because if we had the resources in-house, we’d be able to do it for free.

iKlsR

@LoganM XD "if we had" T_T but you don't sir.. so pay me.

Eric

@LoganM ... what the hell. That can't possibly have been a manager.

Danalog

@LoganM I'll try to use that excuse next time I eat out for dinner.

Logan M

In a similar vein:

> Since you have over-bid our project, can you recommend anyone who has your exact same design skills and client facing abilities for half the cost?

Danalog

@LoganM "Me, doing it half-assed?"

iKlsR

22:19

@LoganM Yeah, me when I'm filthy rich.

Logan M

Me: “Ok, we’ve pushed the site live.”

Client: “Why isn’t the site #1 on Google yet?”

Me: “We just pushed it live five minutes ago.”

Client: “Optimize the fireball.”

Me: “I’m sorry? Do you mean the firewall?”

Client: “I need more hits NOW, so I need you to optimize the fireball. I know what I’m talking about!”

Me: “We’ll get right on it.”

iKlsR

best response ever. I wouldn't quarrel either.

Logan M

@iKlsR Never quarrel with optimized fireballs.

Jon Lin

@iKlsR Thanks!

Danalog

@LoganM If they wanted to optimize the fireball, they should have hired Michael Bay

iKlsR

22:24

@ton.yeung nope. instant but not instant.

Danalog

@ton.yeung It can be either direct message or broadcast to everybody. Depends on how you send a message. But like 90% of it is broadcast.

@ton.yeung And by everybody, that includes Google.

@ton.yeung As lots of people have found out when their bosses found out...

iKlsR

NSA walks by

Danalog

Meh, NSA doesn't care if it's broadcast or private =P

NSA, much like honey badger, doesn't give a damn

@ton.yeung I'm sure it's anti-spam

Time to upvote spam 15 people to get up to Excellent avid users!

... I didn't say that.

Sakamoto

22:43

1

Q: Who sent the Luca Android to replace Luca

When it's found out that for quite a while Luca was actually an Android who had been transmitting information out of the Bentenmaru almost right after Luca appears and reveals she was on vacation the entire time yet she doesn't say if she had sent the android to replace her so i'm wondering who ...

bodacious-space-pirates

0

Q: Which are different between Kanon and Kanon (2006)

I only watched Kanon (2006 ) which is made by Kyoto Animation. Does any particular changes between Kanon and Kanon (2006 ) ??

kanon

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