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20:05
From a comment on animehaven - difference between the preview and the actual episode
The mob characters in Dandelion are quite well-defined
@nhahtdh If by "well-defined" you mean "occasionally invisible".
@Yuuki I'm not referring to the mistake in this image
Just a compliment to the studio, since they draw the mob characters rather well
Dandelion... is that about racing solar cars by any chance?
No. It's about a family of 9 siblings running for election to become king
... That also sounds familiar.
Main character is the youngest and a girl?
20:13
Joukamachi no Dandelion is the full title
@Yuuki No, she is the 4th eldest among the siblings
Ah.
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Q: Monthly Tag Bounties

FrosteezeIn the past, we had tag bounties before and I would like to bring them back. They draw attention to older anime and it might serve to increase user participation. This meta post will serve to gauge interest in a monthly tag bounty as a community feature and who wants to provide the rep points nee...

20:50
windows reinstallindows
@Hakase That looks like an awesome desktop background. But I imagine it would be hard to find icons on it.
I haven't had icons on my desktop for almost a year
I know where everything is on my hard drives :p
chat looks bland without our stuff
I use my desktop is a staging area for stuff I haven't archived yet. Likewise, all my most commonly accessed stuff is there.
I don't have a single icon either.
But I'm using Rainmeter with the Newspaper skin for fun and profit.
I have icons on my desktop but I just don't use them. Most of my stuff is either on external hard drives, flash drives, or easily accessible from the Start Menu.
20:54
I think windows has some option for better icon visibility like disable transparency of their names so they'd be white text on black rectangles
I still need to find the time to setup my sandbox drive to go to war with Win10.
hmm I installed all my chat plugins but the custom ones I haven't uploaded anywhere are lost
21:12
looks like I'm the only one posting scripts on stackapps
@Hakase Eh, it would be more like human stomachs, not skulls.
A leaf is not a tree's head.
And if we're talking leaf people, wouldn't it be whole bodies and not just the skull?
@Yuuki this is interestin
@ToshinouKyouko @ʞɹɐzǝɹ @MadaraUchiha meta.anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2611/… donate to the church of Tag Bounties
oookaaay there's a new fad of jokes about clocks being called bombs on the internet
it's not funny but it's popular
Kid in Texas was taken in by his school's police because he brought a digital alarm clock that he made himself.
Kid's name is Mohammed.
21:21
I'm leaving. Good night everyone :)
Insert cops being racist and/or prejudiced.
@Morwenn me too, gnight
@Frosteeze ill look at that in the morning :)
@ToshinouKyouko Thanks ^_^
@ToshinouKyouko mmmm fresh ripe tomatoes for morning breakfast
anyways night
I've been on chat in 1366x768 for almost three weeks and now it feels so spacious on fullhd
21:24
@ton.yeung Sounds good.
is it my imagination or did I hear in this room that Windows 7 is more stable than the newer versions?
22:03
SP is just a silly name for a bunch of various updates
maybe they'll just come pre-baked in later official installation images
I've seen win7+sp1 official image, but not anything with more recent updates included
maybe I don't know where to look
22:31
just after installing SP1 and all remaining updates
22:44
I have a list of Win7 updates to avoid.
I've been pulling it out a lot since I'm setting up my test box which will have no fewer than 6 Windows partitions with an OS on each and at least 4 more Linux partitions with various versions of Ubuntu coming later.
23:13
can I see that list?
I don't have it in front of me. Need to wait until I go home.
I've got forever :p
Unless you plan on using the sidebar or if your Win7 is pirated, all the "important" security updates are fine.
MS is pretty good on categorizing all the unnecessary shit under "recommended".
And by "unnecessary", I really mean, "unwanted".
so none of the non-important are good?
is there a bunch of spying shit in each of them or are they just not making anything better functionally or in terms of security?
I have a blacklist of "recommended" updates. They are updated as of a month ago. So they don't include the recent Windows 10 auto-download upgrade thingy.
The spying shit is on my blacklist.
For the most part, you can completely skip all the "recommended" updates.
The sidebar is actually still somewhat usable even with the security updates if you hack at it a bit.
23:23
windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/… says here there's no sidebar lol
They merely "disabled" it. But you can force it back on. A couple other hacks will let you get back the weather app.
Which is the one I really care about.
#donut
yepp, Taisho is not here
When I get the time, I will be interested to see if I can hack some control over Win10's updates and privacy.
But before that, I'm gonna play around with the Win7 firewall to see if it's possible to make it block everything (including itself) except for a whitelist of apps.
And see if the same can be done to Win10.
I suspect the answer will be no. And that an external firewall will be needed.
what about running a software firewall from within the computer as a function of hypervisor?
that would save the cost of buying an external firewall
I'm not there yet.
^^ This hints that it's possible to block Win10 updates via firewall.
Ideally, I'd like to have control over when and what updates to install. But Microsoft wants us to fuck off with that. So I think the best that can be done is to completely block Windows Update. And temporarily unblock it when you're ready to update.
23:38
vSphere documentation says it has its own firewall
@ton.yeung The guy is "blocking too much", including Windows update.
Which means it's possible to block it. But possibly with unwanted side-effects.
I'll be experimenting with this in the upcoming months.
I have two things that I need:
1. Control over *when* it updates.
2. Control over *what* it updates.
#2 is gonna be a longshot.
But #1 seems possible with a firewall.
The worst part about updates isn't the regressions, it's the force-reboots.
When I'm running shit, I do not want it rebooting.
what about you intercept those force-reboot calls and drop them
I don't think that's possible.
those are all system library calls
@ton.yeung I'm gonna bet MS doesn't make it that easy to disable.
23:44
there is a windows update service and you can toggle it via the usual services control panel
They don't actually. They let you "schedule". And it can't be more than a day.
If I'm running a multi-day long computation or in a long debugging session, fuck them.
@Hakase Is that Win10?
I highly doubt Win10 will let you do that.
23:46
well idk
Win7 is fine. It's Win10 that will be a problem.
I really do like Aero Glass so much that it's a deciding point for me to stay on 7
@ton.yeung I don't think that works. Win10 will still force reboot after a while. At least that's what I've heard.
@Hakase That's the sole reason why I'm still on Win7.
looks like we're stuck with it for a long time
Oh, in Win10 security updates (the ones with the force reboots) don't go through the Windows Update service.
I bet they did that intentionally do prevent you from just disabling the service.
Metered connection doesn't block security updates either.
23:51
Just set your router's firewall to block the updates
That's what I'll do if all else fails.
what about automatically rescheduling delayed reboot forever?
But it may be a long list of urls to block/unblock every time I actually do them.
@Hakase The whole system is designed so that you cannot delay updates for more than like 24 hours.
pff :I
That's the worst part of Win10.
23:53
For me, if I have a machine which needs to perform a computation for an extended period of time, I just don't connect it to the internet at all.
@LoganM Problem is that I need to remote into them.
hypervisor?
Can't you do that with just a local network?
Eventually, I'll need to use Win10 as a main machine. So I can't completely bypass this stuff by unplugging it.
disable network on virtual machine, remote all day every day
23:55
That's a last resort on my "things to try" list.
The absolute last resort is actually to unplug it.
I don't know how to configure a router to allow intranet, but block internet. But I know it's possible.
I'm not a network person, so there's some reading I'll need to do.
Supposedly if you set the connection as "metered" Windows won't update
It'll do security updates anyway. (which are the ones that also force reboot)
only allow connections from addresses masked 192.*.*.* or something
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Q: Minimize chat input area − remove links and site logo, no auto width

user1306322Chat input area background takes up all the horizontal space it can get. It's time to stop this greedy nonsense! This script removes the width:auto rule and hides the site's logo and links at the right side of the input area: // ==UserScript== // @name Minimize chat input area − remove li...

if anyone likes that stuff
@Hakase Or I can just block all outgoing connections from the machine period. Since remote desktop is incoming.
this reveals additional space on small displays for the starred images
you need a very tight level of security and reliability, and you can't trust the OS − don't try to do it with the OS's tools then :p
23:59
Don't even get me started on the privacy stuff.

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