@Zanna Also sed does count.

Do you know sed really well? If so, you may be able to help me with sed.

bc also counts. These are special-purpose languages... but so is bash.

@EliahKagan I know sed quite well :)

but I keep forgetting things

from lack of use...

you dont have to know anything, you only have to know where you can read it up

that what my instructor always said in my apprenticeship

haha. My best friend (a programmer) says "I literally know nothing without the internet". But I know she doesn't mean literally. Also I do physics, and physicists also don't waste brain power memorising stuff that can be looked up. But the knowledge of what to look up, and what to do with it once looked up, must be learned, is a knowledge that is acquired through work long and hard, I think

it is, practice is always needed, and the basics of something you should be able to understand, otherwise a lookup wont bring you far

but i graduated as a industrial mechanic and you would be surprised how much there is when it comes to work on metal and with metal

far to much for a brain to hold

oh interesting topic! Yes I can imagine there is a huge amount to know

metallurgy, molecular physics, static calculations, knwoledge about how to cut metal etc. etc.

@Zanna I hope I'm not distracting too much from the question being discussed right now. In your answer, you show assignment to LC_ALL followed by running locale and it changes the output. But that only works if LC_ALL was already exported. This will happen if it was passed into the shell's environment when the shell was run (the shell keeps environment variables exported) or if the export builtin was used, but this is not guaranteed.

Neither of the two systems I tested above have an LC_ALL environment variable in my shell's environment, and the commands shown in your answer don't work, though LC_ALL=C locale and LC_ALL= locale do, of course, work.

You sort of touch on this in a comment but you might want to say something about it in your answer (assuming you want to use those exact commands).

ah!

thank you for pointing that out... hmm... how did I end up with this...

worries about all my answers

Probably not as worried as I am about all my answers. I still haven't gotten around to fixing the problems there. I know what Bash actually does, based on reading the documentation, examining the source code, reading mailing list archives, and the testing I did with your help. A while ago I started editing... and I just couldn't make it make sense for some reason. I do believe I'll be able to fix it, though.

I possibly have some insight into what's going on with some of the wrong beliefs that have been expressed in comments, that contain a kernel of truth but not enough to be mostly right. Maybe they heard some of their wrong ideas from me! This other highly upvoted post of mine, though useful, is in the same circle of wrongness and needs to be fixed, and I'm totally sure about how to word that fix either.

This answer on Unix & Linux, not by me, is also wrong about when ~/.bashrc is read (even if it is not sourced by another startup script like ~/.profile). Once I figure out how to fix my two posts without making them unreadable or worded in such a way that they lend themselves to misinterpretation even if technically correct, I should know how to comment or maybe edit that Unix & Linux post.

I was going to ask about that answer, but, I thought, I can check myself to see whether you have edited it, and if you haven't, I don't want to bother you about it more than it already bothers you

@EliahKagan * not totally sure about how to word that fix either.

I realised that the not had gone missing

@Zanna :) You can definitely feel free to bother me about it.

haha :)

ok next movie on my list to watch again : Blues Brothers (1980)

@Videonauth we got both kinds! Country, and Western

I think actual my collection contains about 850 movies

Woah

all kinds of movies tho but i need something to laugh right now so blues brothers it is :)