@NathanMerrill I played that a long time ago. I think I have to agree

I think Slay the Spire has been the easiest roguelike I've ever played

FTL, NetHack I haven't gotten close to beating after months of trying, StS I got under a week ago

It actually kinda feels weird, like, that's all?

I'm really hoping that there's like a harder mode or something

... there is.

Into the Breach is also very beatable. Probably more consistently than StS even.

Oh joy

You'll get an idea once you've beaten the game with each character.

Speaking of which, @NathanMerrill @DJMcMayhem does the new character affect that somehow? ^

I remember getting all the way to the end of FTL my first time, thinking 'hey, this wasn't so bad' and then the final boss ship just comes out to be 5x more difficult than every other encounter in the game combined

I remember winning at some point many years ago but I don't think I've done it since losing my old save data

Getting to sector 8 is always easy, but I'm terrible at the boarding strategies for the flagship and there's pretty much nothing else that seems viable

Jeez, that must have been in middle school for me. I probably just had the Bad (TM)

Sam

I remember it being on sale for like $5, and getting both a Steam key and a direct installation of some sort, and having no clue what Steam was

so when that desktop died there went the save

On the bright side the Steam key was still valid so I didn't have to buy it again

In middle school we had a kid who sold flashdrives preloaded with a dozen or so pirated games that were low-resource enough to run on a school-issued laptop

I bought one for 10 cents, had FTL, binding of isaac, some other stuff

I still haven't played BoI, but my mentally unstable middle school best friend loved it

@MartinEnder No. As far as I can tell, the tokens don't appear until you've one with the first 3 characters. I didn't get any cutscene after beating the game with the 4th

Yeah, it seemed like fun, but I just couldn't get past the theme and art style, so I stopped playing after a couple of hours.

@Mego What does that stand for?

@MartinEnder Just finished seeker of xorn and unlocked Cynthrurenyq. Really excited to try them out, their deck looks really interesting

@DJMcMayhem Binding of Isaac

@DJMcMayhem Yeah that one's fun. Although I think they're considered one of the weaker classes.

@Pavel I also found StS easier at first than I'd want for a roguelike. I expected an experience where I'd slowly see a bit further of the game each time I had a good run. Instead I would up winning on my second try. And after not long, I've seen all the final bosses and most of the enemies, and while I can play on harder difficulties, it's missing that sense of discovery I want from roguelikes.

I guess the point is more about strategic discovery of different deck types and comboes, but I also think that only goes so far.

I wish something like Ascension 10 w/ keys had been the default starting mode.

I like games like Nethack or, yeah, Binding of Isaac, where just by not putting in effort I can essentially bash my head against its wall indefinitely to slowly unlock more content over time. I don't like FTL, where every decent run ends in a single obstacle that you know you don't even get anything for overcoming, just the end of the game.

You can unlock some stuff sometimes but that's about it

@MartinEnder Aw, that's a shame.

@MartinEnder How much do you remember about scenario #52? (Palace of Ice, Final in Seeker of Xorn quest)

We ran into a weird situation, and I'm wondering if we played it right

I have two questions:

2 is definitely correct, let me look up 1

yeah, 1 also counts (based on the fact that you'd get kill credit in that situation)

@DJMcMayhem they're still really fun to play

I don't think any class is unplayably weak

Btw, there's an important errata for that scenario: if you immediately create a character with that new class you get to keep the quest item.

@MartinEnder Oh, the staff?

yep

@MartinEnder hows subnautica?