@MartinEnder bah, I've finished every level except for the tower

(available to me)

and I disagree: It does not seem easier than it looks

....also, the operations just got way more confusing

I don't understand how or why

but lets say you have a stack of sausages that looks like:

B    M   T
--   ||  --
XX   ||  --

and you move that bottom sausage to the left

it matters where you stand

oooh, now I get it

if you stand underneath a sausage, it won't move because it doesn't have to

@Pavel me playing N++: gets You Suck but That's Okay achievement great :|

Finally finished the tower

I thought forever that I needed an L-shaped stack on each "port"

and getting to an L-shape on a single port is really hard

but once I did it, I realized that I was wrong.

I figured out the new stack shape made it way easier

@NathanMerrill nice work! :)

thanks. I'm having to spend more time contemplating the level before interacting with it

currently stuck on Cold Jag

(took me a while to find the level name)

I really like how this cold world feels

like, how you can see the breath of the character

and the colors make it like you want to huddle up next to one of the burners

yeah, he makes pretty good use of the minimalist art style he's going for

can you redo levels? I've just looked at a screenshot, and I think I'm seeing a solution, but I don't know if I can test it again.

I feel like I've had 3 different solutions

but none of them worked

is this the first world-2 level you're doing?

no

it's world 3, I think :)

oh, really?

and it's my second level

isn't the tower at the end of world 1?

unless you have a world 0, no

oh okay

then I must have misremembered that

anyways, the primary problem lies in getting off the sausages

correct

there are only two spots you can exit a sausage: Next to the ladder, and on the other side

but if you exit next to the ladder, then you have a sausage preventing you from going down

but if you exit on the other side...then there's no ladder

I imagine you're quite aware of this, but only two of those three statements are correct ;) (necessarily)

I know :)

I mean, I know that I have to go down the ladder

which means I have to exit there

but that's the part that baffles me

looks like I saved my game after completing world 4 but before finishing another level in world 5, so now I have to figure out how to build the bridge to get to world 5 again...

I feel like Stephen could have made secret levels

yeah (unless we just haven't found them)

like, a spot inside of an existing level that you can enter

I don't think he did

the other option is find a spot that is really hard to get to

even if it's plainly visible

so...I was reading other people's reviews of the game

it appears that The Great Tower really is really the hump of the game

the biggest leap in difficulty

either that, or where most people quit :)

yeah, at least it's the most daunting

I still think it's really hard too. It's the first level that you have to visualize the solution before implementing it

every other level up to that point, you can kind of play around and get a feel for the level

yeah, I guess that's true, but I also find that once you sit down and try to figure out what a solution must look like systematically, it ends up being more doable than it first seems.

I mean....that's only true if the solution you came up with is the right one

the first time I sat down and thought about it, I came up with the wrong solution (stacked L-shaped)

and it's really hard to get the pieces in the right spots for that

but perhaps I was simply unlucky

Now streaming myself deranking in Rainbow Six: Siege

twitch.tv/cat_dev_random

@Pavel camper :)

@flawr It's rainbow six

That's kinda the point