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8:09 PM
$(p+r)^2>q^2+(p-r)^2$
Does this imply that $(p+r)^2>q^2$ @LeakyNun when $(p+r)>(p-r)$
 
square must be non-negative
$a^2 \ge 0$
$(p-r)^2 \ge 0$
$(p+r)^2 > q^2 + (p-r)^2 \ge q^2 + 0 = q^2$
$(p+r)^2>q^2$
the condition $(p+r)>(p-r)$ is useless
 
@LeakyNun p and r are both positive
 
@Abcd useless condition
 
@LeakyNun How 0?
 
1 min ago, by Leaky Nun
$(p-r)^2 \ge 0$
 
8:14 PM
Oh. I see. Nice @LeakyNun !
@LeakyNun But that zero is minimum value
 
@Abcd so?
 
@LeakyNun We can't ignore their maximum value. Rather we should consider only their maximum value IMO
 
@Abcd why?
 
@LeakyNun why not?
 
@Abcd just point out which step is wrong
 
8:18 PM
@LeakyNun This one
 
@Abcd which step?
 
@LeakyNun Substituting (p-r)^2 = 0
 
$(p-r)^2 \ge 0$
add $q^2$ to both sides
 
done
 
what do you get
 
8:20 PM
@LeakyNun Understood
 
8:36 PM
Find the value of a for which $\dfrac{ax^2+3x-4}{a+3x-4x^2}$ takes all values for all real values of x
$\Delta$ is same for both numerator and denominator @LeakyNun
 
Let $y=\dfrac{ax^2+3x-4}{a+3x-4x^2}$ (introducing yet another variable :D)
 
@LeakyNun why?
 
Then, $(-4y-a)x^2 + (3y-3)x +(ay+4) = 0$
 
@LeakyNun How?
 
@Abcd simple algebraic manipulations
 
8:39 PM
@LeakyNun No, please tell.
 
@Abcd just multiply both sides by $a+3x-4x^2$
Then, since $y$ takes all values, the above quadratic solution has solutions for all $y$, meaning that for all $y$, the discriminant is non-negative.
$\Delta = (3y-3)^2 + 4(4y+a)(ay+4) \ge 0$ for all $y$
$9y^2-18y+9+16ay^2+(64+4a^2)y+16a\ge0$
$(9+16a)y^2 + (46+4a^2)y+(16a+9) \ge 0$
what am I doing with my life
since that has to hold for all $y$, the graph of that (where $y$ is the independent variable) must not cross through the horizontal axis, so the determinant is smaller than or equal to 0.
$\Delta_y = (46+4a^2)^2 - 4(9+16a)(16a+9) \le 0$
 
@LeakyNun 3- y instead of 3y-3
 
@Abcd how?
 
@LeakyNun $ax^2+3x-4 = y(a+3x-4x^2)$
$\implies (a+4)x^2 +x(3-3y)-+(-4-ay)=0$ @LeakyNun
@LeakyNun Never mind, I was wrong. Wait a minute. Reading the next stuff you have written.
 
3 mins ago, by Leaky Nun
$\Delta_y = (46+4a^2)^2 - 4(9+16a)(16a+9) \le 0$
$(23+2a^2)^2 \le (16a+9)^2$
 
8:47 PM
Please wait
 
you can always read later
$-16a-9 \le 23+2a^2 \le 16a+9$
$2a^2+16a+32 \ge 0$ and $2a^2-16a+14 \le 0$
$2(a+8)^2 \ge 0$ and $2(a-1)(a-7) \le 0$
true and $1 \le a \le 7$
$1 \le a \le 7$
 
@LeakyNun Didn't get the discriminant is non negative part.
@LeakyNun Correct answer.
 
@Abcd for all $y$, there is root for $x$, so $\Delta_x \ge 0$ for all $y$
 
@LeakyNun You mean $y \epsilon (-\infty, +\infty)$? and therefore y must intersect X axis too?
 
@Abcd no, stop thinking that $y$ must be the dependent variable
 
8:53 PM
where $\epsilon$ = belongs to
 
it's just another parameter
 
@LeakyNun Is y a function of x?
 
...
 
yes, it is
 
no it isn't
1 min ago, by Leaky Nun
@Abcd no, stop thinking that $y$ must be the dependent variable
1 min ago, by Leaky Nun
it's just another parameter
 
8:55 PM
@LeakyNun What do you mean by parameter?
 
what the question exactly meant by saying that $a$ is a parameter
 
@LeakyNun i guess this word's the reason I couldn't understand the previous question.
 
take it to mean "constant".
 
Oh and I think this is the reason I couldn't understand family of lines. PARAMETER!
@LeakyNun okay, then?
 
then what
 
8:59 PM
y can take all real values
@LeakyNun y can't take any complex value?
 
what the
 
@LeakyNun Hmm
@LeakyNun I know you are angry but why can't y take any complex value? I am damn sorry for irritating you sir.
 
26 mins ago, by Leaky Nun
Let $y=\dfrac{ax^2+3x-4}{a+3x-4x^2}$ (introducing yet another variable :D)
26 mins ago, by Abcd
Find the value of a for which $\dfrac{ax^2+3x-4}{a+3x-4x^2}$ takes all values for all real values of x
If $x$ is real and $a$ is real then $y$ how complex?
 
@LeakyNun Right. Got it.
@LeakyNun ?
 
@Abcd ignore it
 
9:09 PM
@LeakyNun Didn't understand the sudden shift to this part.
 
28 mins ago, by Leaky Nun
$(9+16a)y^2 + (46+4a^2)y+(16a+9) \ge 0$
for all $y$
so if you view this as a quadratic in $y$
 
@LeakyNun yes
 
then its discriminant would have to be smaller than or equal to 0
 
@LeakyNun Why
 
or else $f(y)$ would cross through the horizontal axis and be negative
quadratiception
 
9:13 PM
Why can't f(y) be negative?
 
3 mins ago, by Leaky Nun
28 mins ago, by Leaky Nun
$(9+16a)y^2 + (46+4a^2)y+(16a+9) \ge 0$
 
Got it.
 
good
 
@LeakyNun Also 16a+9 >0
 
@Abcd right
 
9:35 PM
@LeakyNun How $2(a+8)^2>=0$. I am getting (a+4)^2>=0
 
$2a^2+16a+32=2(a^2+8a+16)=2(a+4)^2$
sorry
the point stands.
 
9:51 PM
Find the solution for $x \epsilon (-2,3)$ of the equation:$(x^2+x+1)^2+1= (x^2+x+1)(x^2-x-5))$. I got $(-2,-1]$ but answer is no solution @LeakyNun
 
how do you get an entire interval as solution?
 
@LeakyNun i just used the fact that $x^2- x-5>0$ then did intersection of sets.
But you are right. Equation should have only 4 solutions.
Should I use same property for other (x^2+x+1) also?
 
$(x^2+x+1)(2x+6)+1=0$
$x^2+x+1>0$
$2x+6 > 0$
therefore there is no solution
 
@LeakyNun How?
 
@Abcd basic distribution laws
 
10:00 PM
yeah, got it. done.
$x^2-11x+a= 0$
$x^2 - 14x+2a=0$
How do I determine the condition for common roots?
 
solve them together?
 
@LeakyNun a=-3x?
 
right
 
then?
 
solve them
 
10:10 PM
@LeakyNun Solution says: $x^2/-8a = x/-a = 1/-3$ Why?
 
no idea
it's the same with what you wrote
 
@LeakyNun How to get that 8a condition./
 
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