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00:11
The chat's name should be changed to "this is so not fine"
 
2 hours later…
02:10
@HannahVernon lol. So true. Perhaps to MJ's last song: This is it.
Democrat Sam Liccardo wins House seat
Democrat Eugene Vindman, known as a Trump whistleblower, wins competitive Virginia House race
> Sanders noted that major economic factors likely influenced the working class vote on Tuesday, including stagnant wages due to inflation, the threat of automation from AI and robotics, and high healthcare and prescription drug costs. He also called out party leadership for not listening to constituents worried about Israel’s ongoing war in Gaza—which cost Harris votes in crucial swing states like Michigan.
> “Today, while the very rich are doing phenomenally well, 60% of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck,” Sanders said. According to a CNBC poll published earlier this year, over 65% of respondents said they lived paycheck-to-paycheck in 2023. Research published by the Bank of America Institute last month indicated at least one quarter of American households were spending most of their paychecks each month.
> when you zoom in on the details of that result, there’s a striking pattern: Democratic Senate candidates are outperforming Harris. Or, put another way, Republican Senate candidates are doing worse than Trump.
Sexism is not to be solely blamed for:
> Some might argue for racism or sexism explaining Harris’s struggles, but I’d note that several of the Democratic candidates who overperformed Harris were nonwhite or female. Others might argue that she was a uniquely flawed candidate or campaigner, but President Joe Biden was on track to do much worse if he’d stayed in the race.
> Harris’s electoral struggles were more about Biden’s unpopularity and her association with his administration than any newfound love of the American public for the Republican Party generally. (This is also reflected in the House of Representatives contest currently looking somewhat close and in Democratic success at the state level in places like North Carolina.)
It's economy, stupid:
> Call them the “I don’t like Republicans much, but the economy was better under Trump” voters. Biden lost them, and Harris failed to get them back
The myth that economy was better under Trump was perpetuated by Fox and other right wing media.
Anyone?
> Question 1 asked Mainers, "Do you want to set a $5,000 limit for giving to political action committees that spend money independently to support or defeat candidates for office?"
> As of Wednesday afternoon, the measure had passed 531,573 to 186,707, or 74% to 26%, with 89% of the estimated vote reported, according toThe New York Times.
> "We believe that political spending has spiraled out of control, in many cases, and that the absence of any limit on PACs is inappropriate and leaves America's system of campaigning and voting vulnerable to the whims of bad actors," the board argued. "If Maine can play a leading role in bringing some order and fairness to political spending nationally, we should seize the chance."
@Wipqozn I am noticing everywhere in the comments, forums that 20 million didn't vote. But I still haven't come across any substantial news source.
04:33
> Reboot culture has gone too far.
Democrat Raul Ruiz re-elected to House
> They never dealt with us. They didn’t show us any respect. I never talked to the lady, and she’s the candidate
> Harris senior adviser Brendan McPhillips accused Brady’s organization of failing to campaign door-to-door for the Democratic candidate, and even alluded to mismanagement of the city’s local party.
> Harris' campaign “knocked more than two million doors in the weekend leading up to Election Day, which is two million more doors than Bob Brady’s organization can claim to have knocked during his entire tenure as party chairman,” McPhillips told the paper.
> “If there’s any immediate takeaway from Philadelphia’s turnout this cycle, it is that Chairman Brady’s decades-long practice of fleecing campaigns for money to make up for his own lack of fundraising ability or leadership is a worthless endeavor that no future campaign should ever be forced to entertain again,” he said.
This is not helping anyone.
This lady was more competent than Kamala and Biden.
Also 75 years old.
Yes. As if that mattered.
That felon there is on dementia. He won.
Don't get me wrong. I respect Biden and adore Harris. And would support them, like I have in the past.
But in spite of barrage of propaganda and all racist stuff, ultimately they failed to respond to the economic woes and inflation that were directly effecting the people.
In stead of sticking to the working class message, they thought doing town halls with Liz Cheney would somehow persuade the undecided. Yeh, that failed. Miserably.
People don't care about democracy, climate change. They only care about the economy. Mostly. Of course there would be a section who are overtly racist.
That felon successfully scape goated the immigrants for all the miseries as well as with his brute assured economy would work again for the common people.
Not a single category he failed to scrap voters from the democrats.
Of course people are ill-informed, delusional. Who could believe this felon? Yet here we are. With Elon, Fox, Joe Rogan and what not, they efficiently preached and zeroed in on their message.
They were not ambiguous in their priority.
04:54
A section is overtly racist, a section is mind-bogglingly stupid/unformed, a section is very susceptible to charisma. The Venn diagram looks like a single circle from a distance. But I'm here for ideas. Remember this?
On the other hand, whatever good policies were there, Dems sidelined in their message and stuck to some democracy is in crisis from Trump stuff. This is a huge blunder.
@Jolenealaska hmm
@Jolenealaska Alaska went for that Felon.
We are not alone, to be honest. A sizeable portion did vote for Harris. Don't forget that. It was not 80-20.
Yes it did. It also ousted the Democrat congressperson we had for a nanosecond after a century and a half of Don Young.
Question - Focus!
Also remember it's not that the whole country has suddenly become Republicans. They are anti-Biden administration which Kamala was a part of.
04:57
Now I took that flag down last night, but it's been up for long enough that it has been seen by a lot of people, and people will notice that it's gone. So, I want to put it back up with something else as a window display demonstrating that we need to not give up.
2 hours ago, by User1865345
> Harris’s electoral struggles were more about Biden’s unpopularity and her association with his administration than any newfound love of the American public for the Republican Party generally. (This is also reflected in the House of Representatives contest currently looking somewhat close and in Democratic success at the state level in places like North Carolina.)
@Jolenealaska 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Exactly.
So that's why I'm here. I need ideas.
I have an MRI tomorrow and there's a print shop next door.
Days would be darker for the coming years ahead. But if we just sit in our basement, that would be final tragedy.
@Jolenealaska firstly listen to Rachel:
At the outset, take a breath. You are not supposed to move ahead in a funeral of a friend. Cry if you wish. Gather the like minded. It's good to be sad right now. Do it in a collective way. You are not alone. We are not alone.
Change cannot come overnight.
The democratic elders have to decide whether they would fall back to their centrist cocoon or re energise gradually for a working class agenda. Not that they didn't have one. But somehow those messages got muted.
I'll watch that and then I'll be back. I think I'm going to keep that window going as a protest display until, well, probably forever - conveniently, I have reason to suspect the landlords like it. So I need to come up with a slogan to be printed tomorrow. I have to go to the same place every 5 weeks so I can rotate my window display as a monthly routine.
@Jolenealaska 🔥🔥👍🏻👍🏻
Resistance wouldn't be dead.
05:10
I just had a great idea. I'm so damn brilliant I amaze myself. I'm going to have printed a giant QR code, almost as big as the flag which you will still be able to see behind the code
Now I just have to find just the right thing to send people to this month. People curious enough to see what my damn QR code is about.
Every month I'll swap out the code with some kind of indication that it has changed.
Three to one I can get the Anchorage Daily News to print it every time I change it out.
If you wanted to show a single YouTube video to hundreds of people, half of whom voted for Trump, from your living room so everybody knows where you live, what video would you choose as your first?
05:27
@Jolenealaska nice!
@Jolenealaska about what is lying ahead. Prospect of Project 2025.
There would lots of fodder in the coming days. If even two people get enlightened, that could be huge positive.
@Jolenealaska so far it's scant. Wait. But I have loved Rachel's one so far. Do wait.
I want to keep it light, at least for the first one. So far, I'm leaning towards the Jon Stewart post-election video. John Oliver hasn't done one yet, has he?
My point of hope: progressive policies won even the deep red states. Abortion got enshrined in places like Missouri. Down ballot democrats outperformed Harris greatly. Democrats didn't get rejected.
@Jolenealaska nope. Yes, Jon's was good one but I felt it was bit lighter and more broad talk. But I would have definitely sent one to my acquaintances.
@Jolenealaska that's great.
Yes. With a few weird outliers, progressive policies passed. Alaska lost (probably) ranked choice voting but we raised the minimum wage and passed family leave.
@Jolenealaska 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥🔥🔥
See that? Sanders was right all along. Wandering with a Cheney won't do a wonder. It's adhering and embracing progressive policies that actually impact the kitchen table would do.
I want the first QR code window to be funny. I'll get more and more serious as it goes along, but I want to grab them with humor. Every once in awhile as I go along I'll just put shit up that's funny - not even political.
05:38
@Jolenealaska I like this. Go ahead!!
There would always be some curiosity among the passers by. What it would be next. Even if you de sanitize one Trump voter, that's an achievement.
I can't re iterate enough that dems fail because they can't disseminate messages as well as the barrage of misinformation by Fox.
And Jolenealaska.com is live. It's just sitting there with 2-year-old homework from a freshman HTML for dummies class. I figured I might have a use for it someday, and that day might be now.
Those people would never view MSNBC. Dems need to devise something to take their message straight to them.
@Jolenealaska 👏🏻
Also he would be inheriting a booming economy which he would be claiming because of his achievement.
Whenever something goes awry, he would blame the previous administration.
Don't let that happen.
05:58
Along with the QR code I think I like the quote that I just saw in YouTube comments so I need to verify it: "I really thought we were better than this. And I am deeply sorry that so many of us aren't." -Mary Trump
I agree with the quote. But I don't want to antagonise who voted for Trump. Not all are racists white supremacists feeding on Bannon podcast. Some are really good people who are ill informed, deeply affected by the economy. I want a more constructive quote.
Trump has won the blue wall. That means he was successful in persuading the democratic voters.
The gravity of this is severe. It's not that Donald just won the vile racist base. He won the blue States too.
06:48
Finally, someone echoed my point:
> Matthew Sheffield, a former right-wing media insider, believes that Democrats have been making a massive mistake when it comes to waging information wars.

Writing on X, formerly Twitter, Sheffield explains that the Democrats have flat-out failed to create a media ecosystem that functions in the same way that right-wing media does by creating what he describes as a "partisan ecosystem" whose sole goal is to constantly reinforce negative partisanship among voters.
> "Partisan ecosystems make a party's job so much easier in several significant ways," he writes. "They can 24/7 attack the opposition without the candidates sullying themselves. They provide a jobs base that makes it easy for new party members to earn a living."
> Sheffield also argues that such ecosystems can "educate reluctant and loyal party members and maintain negative partisanship, meaning that people who dislike the leaders will still vote for the party," which he says was key to former President Donald Trump's 2024 election victory, as there was a significant chunk of voters who voted for him despite personally disliking him.
> Sheffield believes that Democrats have failed to engage with low-information voters who often lack college degrees, which has left them wide open to hear right-wing messages on social media platforms.
> "The people who lost the election are the Democratic leaders who have steadfastly refused to invest in advocacy media," Sheffield charged. "The average American is surrounded by partisan brainwashing media. There are now 7 right wing infotainment channels and 1 MSNBC. This is why Harris lost."
> Sheffield also thinks that the biggest mistake Democrats are making is relying on political websites and legacy media, while leaving low-information voters at the mercies of social media algorithms.

"Most Americans don't watch TV news or read politics websites," he argued Tuesday. "They turn on YouTube and see what's there. Overwhelmingly what they see is a torrent of right wing sewage. The same exact thing is true in podcasting."
 
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10:06
@User1865345 Yeah, that's the weird part, and something I've seen many people ponder on Twitter: 20M fewer people voted this election than in 2020, even though there have been reports of record turnouts
 
1 hour later…
11:20
@Nzall i know there would be someone who would be asking this at Skeptics SE in the coming days.
Irrelevant and nothing to brag about though, I hit 10k reps at CV! 😅
> The story that is about to be pushed hard is that Kamala Harris lost because she was too far left. It will be pushed because this is the Democratic establishment’s go-to explanation for all its failures.
Absolute universal fact. Prepare for more defeats if they scape goat Gaza ceasefire supporters, progressives.
It would be a race between Onion and Trump which can produce more outlandish headlines.
11:58
> The old saying is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result. So what do you call it when you fail, get a better result by doing something different, then go back and repeat the thing that failed the first time anyway?
@User1865345 idiocy
Exactly
> The Democratic Party had two real-world tests for what works in an election against Donald Trump. One campaign famously succeeded; the other infamously failed. Mystifyingly — going into an election it kept saying was “the most important election of our lifetime” — it decided to rerun the one that failed.
> There’s a flurry of desperate finger-pointing going on among Democratic influencers right now, pinning it all, as usual, on Russia, on their candidate’s race and gender, on her running mate, on the American public’s allegedly low character, and on anything else besides their own failures.
12:27
> For years now, voters have been telling pollsters that they were fed up with the economy, and poll after poll during this campaign registered them saying it was the issue that would most decide their vote, especially among those who were leaning toward Trump.
> they felt their personal financial situation was worse and they thought so at significantly higher rates than they did in 2020; and huge majorities of those who voted for Trump viewed the economy negatively, considered it the election’s most pressing issue, and voted for the person they thought was going to bring “change.”
> they were disturbed by Harris’s inability to offer a change from Biden’s presidency. One eighteen-year-old first-time voter in Milwaukee picked Trump at the top of the ticket despite generally preferring Democrats and voting for them downballot because “I’m mainly worried about economics.”
> what happened last night was not just predictable but entirely typical in the history of US elections: an unpopular incumbent sees his party roundly punished as voters look for change. This is exactly what happened four years ago as well as when Barack Obama won a Democratic trifecta in 2008, when Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter nearly thirty years before, and when Franklin Delano Roosevelt first took power nearly fifty years before that.
> As CNN’s Harry Enten had said, never in US history had a party won reelection when its president’s approval rating was this low and when this many people felt the country was going in the wrong direction under him — and history was not bucked last night.
> For many loyal Democrats, this will not compute. The Biden economy, party-loyal pundits have said over and over again, is tremendous — low unemployment, strong GDP growth, slowing inflation, a booming stock market — and anyone unhappy about it must simply be brainwashed.
In reality
> evictions up past pre-pandemic levels, record-high homelessness, cost-burdened renters at an all-time high, median household income lower than the last pre-pandemic year, inequality returning to pre-pandemic levels, and food insecurity and poverty growing by large double digits since 2021, including a historic spike in child poverty.
> Sometimes that happened due to factors outside Biden’s control and sometimes because of his own decisions, but it always took place with little fight from the president, and it contributed to the ominous rise in hardship under his tenure. That meant not only adding to people’s already onerous monthly expenses — in one case in a self-imposed October surprise that made student loan repayment much more unforgiving for tens of millions of borrowers just before voting.
> It also saw twenty-five million people being thrown off their public health insurance, many of them in some of the battleground states Harris lost last night. Recall that one of Biden’s attack lines against Trump four years ago was that Trump was going to strip twenty million people of their health insurance.
This all happened in the battleground States. Wow. We weren't aware of that.
> There is little career incentive for Democrats and their associated commentators to talk about the fact that, however incidentally it had happened, millions of Americans saw sweeping new economic protections in Trump’s final year and even material improvements in some of their lives, then lost them all under Biden. But if they had, they might have understood part of Trump’s enduring appeal.
> the Democrats compounded their miseries by sidestepping the democratic process yet again and simply picking a nominee who, just as much of the party had originally feared, proved a weak candidate.
> Particularly fatal was Harris’s inability to distance herself from Biden’s unpopular presidency and explain how hers would be different — with, ideally, specifics, something voters continually said they wanted to see from her as they made up their minds.
> Hanging over it all was the festering political sore that was Democratic support for Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
They could take examples from other places:
> The Dems could have looked at recent election victories in Mexico and France, where left-of-center movements won big and halted what seemed like the almost certain advance of a far-right candidate by delivering on or promising (or both) boosts to people’s purchasing power, most notably through minimum wage increases.
> In practice, Harris ran a campaign that was one part the Democrats’ 2022 midterm approach, one part Hillary Clinton’s losing 2016 strategy of exchanging progressives and working-class voters for suburban Republicans, and one part Starmer’s win in July.
> it was a somewhat absurd plan, since it meant Harris had to try to paint Trump, the challenger, as the incumbent, even though she was the sitting vice president and served in the unpopular incumbent administration that she refused to publicly break from.
> Harris campaigned more with Republican warmonger Liz Cheney than with any other ally and more with billionaire Mark Cuban — who insisted to the public she wasn’t serious about some of her populist economic proposals — than with union leader Shawn Fain. This was all while courting big business and toying with firing Biden’s high-profile anti-monopoly enforcer who they hate.
> Maybe most egregious, Harris seemingly refused to run on the broadly popular $15 minimum wage hike that had been a big part of Biden’s winning 2020 platform.
> This decision likely cost her. Voters in Trump-voting Missouri and Alaska have approved or are on the way to approving ballot measures raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour and instituting paid sick leave (another popular measure Harris declined to run on).
> Given a second chance by the friendly Stephen Colbert to answer the question of how her presidency would be different from Biden’s, Harris fumbled for an answer before reminding the TV host that “I’m not Donald Trump.” It may as well have been the campaign’s slogan.
🤧
> Harris ran a significantly more conservative campaign than Biden’s victorious 2020 run, one that eschewed that year’s ambitious progressive platform, kept at arm’s length many of its flagship policies, made a show of sidelining the Left, and rested on linking arms with corporate America and trying to win over conservative voters. It was a strategy that already failed once and that progressive voices warned over and over risked doing so again. They were right.
> “This is the leftovers of the 2016 kind of mess” that were never adequately settled due to the chaos of the pandemic, historian Leah Wright Rigueur told CNN in the wake of the result.
> As the Democratic Party picked up the pieces and figured out what it would do moving forward, she said, one important voice would be Bernie Sanders and his frequent calls that “[the party] needs to talk about bread-and-butter issues.”
> A law clerk whom Donald Trump frequently disparaged in social media posts during his civil fraud last year has been elected as a judge in New York City. Allison Greenfield, 38, ran unopposed for one of six seats on Manhattan’s civil court after her candidacy was endorsed by a local Democratic committee, reported the Associated Press. She clinched the seat in Tuesday’s general election.
14:15
Same thing as above.
No one is able to digest the stunt with war hawk Liz Cheney:
> The Democrats appeared more interested in courting disaffected Republicans, including war criminals such as Dick Cheney, than even merely dialoguing with their progressive flank. They refused to allow a Palestinian American to take the stage at their convention. Meanwhile, American bombs are dropped daily on Palestinians in what is widely considered a genocide, and Harris has had little to say.
> Harris probably had little to say about a lot of issues, so much so that the news site Axios labeled her the “‘no comment’ candidate”. The Republicans ran their campaign as a party of hate; the Democrats ran as a party that stood for almost nothing. Between hate and nothing, hate won.
> This must be the most profound wake-up call the Democratic party has ever heard. They must stop trying to be moderate Republicans and instead stand for equal justice, working people and human rights for everyone. Saying that they do just isn’t enough.
@User1865345 Yeah same here.
> The Democrats thought all the hate emanating from the Trump campaign was simply an emotion that they could neutralize by their expressions of “joy”. But what if hate isn’t an emotion? What if it’s an ideology? The answer to that question is what we, and the rest of the world, are about to find out. Pray for us.
@Wipqozn hm.
> U.S. voter turnout on Nov. 5 is projected to be around 65 percent, with more than 158 million ballots counted, according to data from the University of Florida’s Election Lab. That number is a dip from the 2020 U.S. presidential election, which registered a historic 67 percent turnout.
Hate destroys the hater.
Also wow:
> In Indonesia, which holds the largest single-day election in the world, restaurants handed out free food and coffee to voters amid heavy rain.
14:19
@Wipqozn does that account for the 20 million figure?
@Wipqozn search India where ECI open a polling booth for a single man.
@think_meaning_builds i will frame it in a better way: populist defeats a populist.
It looks like the 20 million figure is too high?
158,549,000 vs 159,738,337
There is a significant dip. Indeed. But 20 million? I have to churn some numbers.
Anyway where was I...
Yeah, that 20M figure is suspicious
14:22
> She shed young voters, Arab and Muslim voters, and Latino voters who had previously favored the left by running an aggressively bipartisan, centrist campaign, ignoring the active genocide in Palestine supported by the United States.
@think_meaning_builds My guess is people were coming up with the number way too early in the ballot counting process.
This seems to be counter intuitive. Turnout was high yet the total was less than that of 2020.
@Wipqozn I see.
> But this didn’t work either. The median voter, the bipartisan moderate voter, rejected her.
Just a guess though, but that would make sense. People were comparing final 2020 numbers to election night 2024 numbers.
Sounds like a reasonable guess.
IT always takes a few days and even up to a week until all ballots are counted.
Plus mail in ballots can show up really late, because so long as they're mailed by election day they're valid, right?
14:24
> The Harris campaign tried to find a path to victory by moving to the right, ignoring progressives and courting Republicans by parading around Liz Cheney. It didn’t work. And yet the lesson one imagines the Democratic party will draw from this loss is that they must move even further to the right.
@User1865345 It seems like whenever anyone loses the takeaway is "We're not right enough."
That's certainly what the CPC in Canada has taken away from their losses.
I think it was Erin O'Toole who tried taking the CPC further to the left socially, and his party lost their collective shit at him because they apparently just love their bigotry.
CPC being the canadian progressive conversative party
@Wipqozn in California it was till 8 pm Tuesday.
But still even after those "pet eating immigrant" remarks he wins
@Wipqozn when your party is funded by AiPAC and billionaire, chances are the scale goat would be progressives.
@think_meaning_builds No matter how ugly or odd it might sound to us, those narratives never mattered.
Rather it helped to make his persona as the doer of justice by deporting illegal immigrants who have caused so much misery.
@think_meaning_builds So from what I can tell, two things were the huge driving force between Trump winning: His hateful message spoke to a lot of people, and a lot of people only vote on the economy and nothing else, and believe Trump would be better for the economy (even if all evidence points to otherwise).
14:29
@Wipqozn exactly.
It's the economy, stupid. Always.
Money makes the world go round
Democracy vs Trump rhetoric doesn't lower the price of kitchen table issues.
@think_meaning_builds That's true. But it is always the economy.
2 hours ago, by User1865345
> It also saw twenty-five million people being thrown off their public health insurance, many of them in some of the battleground states Harris lost last night. Recall that one of Biden’s attack lines against Trump four years ago was that Trump was going to strip twenty million people of their health insurance.
2 hours ago, by User1865345
> There is little career incentive for Democrats and their associated commentators to talk about the fact that, however incidentally it had happened, millions of Americans saw sweeping new economic protections in Trump’s final year and even material improvements in some of their lives, then lost them all under Biden. But if they had, they might have understood part of Trump’s enduring appeal.
And the failure to counter Fox. That costed an entire election.
> Biden was unable to effectively communicate his domestic successes and take advantage of his bully pulpit as president. As a result, 45% of voters, the highest number in decades, said they were financially worse off than they were four years ago.
> Good policies don’t translate to good politics without an effective voice behind them and the president was unable to head off worries about inflation and immigration. The failures caused by his declining ability manifested itself most dramatically at the first presidential debate and Harris was forced to run from behind when she became the presumptive nominee.
This is the article:
8 hours ago, by User1865345
> Matthew Sheffield, a former right-wing media insider, believes that Democrats have been making a massive mistake when it comes to waging information wars.

Writing on X, formerly Twitter, Sheffield explains that the Democrats have flat-out failed to create a media ecosystem that functions in the same way that right-wing media does by creating what he describes as a "partisan ecosystem" whose sole goal is to constantly reinforce negative partisanship among voters.
14:56
@User1865345 Yeah pyramid of needs. Fucking hell who cares about the high level economic issues and the international geopolitics if I cant fucking put food on the table
Lots fell into that trap.
Exactly
Democrats thought let's persuade the moderates with Liz Cheney. What could possibly go wrong?
@User1865345 Also Dems mostly talked about big issues that yes, will impact the small ones
But Trump just fucking talked about small, direct issues
@Fredy31 that's his selling point.
and thats how he connects.
He talks in simple language. There is rhetoric. There is fear mongering. Yet there is simplicity.
Those who feel the coming four years would be the last of Trump, that is true. But Trumpism is not going anywhere unless democrats counter by an equally populist agenda, which feels highly unlikely.
15:06
Nobody wants to sit through a 2 hour economics course to know how that policy will help
Trump is just like 'I have a plan, it will help!'
it wont help
@User1865345 Hes gonna kick the bucket before the 4 years is up would be my bet
By force or just because hes an old unhealthy dude
The plan is Vance. Trump is the trojan horse.
Basically Trump is incapable, just a shitshow. Bad at politics, doesnt know how anything works. So he wont really be able to do shit.
But if he kicks it, Vance becomes in command, and he knows how shit works.
And when the GOP kills democracy, if the movement crystalised over the trump replacement or not wont matter anymore.
15:33
Dumb and idiocy helped Trump greatly.
@Fredy31 even he doesn't know the real players are JD Vance and Elon.
@Fredy31 yes.
@Fredy31 he ran for president only to pardon himself and to enrich him and his family.
Independent senator Angus King has won re-election in Maine, the Associated Press reports.
@Wipqozn 🤣🤣🤣
> President Joe Biden is furious that he is being blamed for Kamala Harris’ failed campaign and is going to war against his detractors in a bid to reunite the Democratic Party behind his middle-class credentials.

Biden remains convinced that his longtime ties to the trade unions and working-class men would have swayed the 2024 presidential election vote in his favor. Right to the end of the campaign, he insisted he would have beaten Donald Trump.
15:49
Yeah I was wondering how he felt, because he was convinced he could win again.
It's plain wrong to simply blame Biden. You ran a centrist campaign, then blame the whole on a man who is not on ballots. His Gaza indifference is responsible. But to blame him solely is wrong diagnosis.
@Wipqozn he would stick to the more progressive campaign mode touting his labor union association, one which Harris abandoned.
And Biden aides blame Obama aides who advised Harris.
> The Biden aides blamed Barack Obama’s advisers for the Harris missteps that ultimately cost her any hopes of the White House.
> “There is no singular reason why we lost, but a big reason is because the Obama advisers publicly encouraged Democratic infighting to push Joe Biden out, didn’t even want Kamala Harris as the nominee, and then signed up as the saviors of the campaign only to run outdated Obama-era playbooks for a candidate that wasn’t Obama,” a former Biden staffer told Playbook.
They are washing the dirty linen in public now. Backstage it was absolute mess.
> The loss of Pennsylvania was particularly vexing for the president, who won the state in 2020.
> “The deposing of Biden will remain a great source of controversy within the Democratic party. It’s clear that Biden, even with his cognitive disabilities, would have performed better than Harris in states like Pennsylvania,” political scientist Steven Schier told Newsweek.
An old, crippled Biden would have won Pennsylvania.
That was the sorry state of Harris campaign.
> Determined not to be a lame duck president for the remainder of his term, Biden is seeking to be a uniting force in the party, say Democratic Party sources. While he is determined to offer a gracious transition to the incoming administration, he is being urged by supporters to make his final months count as the party rebuilds.
Yeh go Joe, for one last time. Show a middle finger to the stupid nation and all those party elders who deposed you.
Maybe he'll challenge Trump to a cage match
I would buy the ticket and yell Eye of the Tiger song.
Some moron tweeted this:
> The only person happier than me this morning. has to be Joe Biden
- Don Jr.
Four more years of Don Jr. and Eric. 🤧🤮
Grandpa Joe has started addressing.
Not going to watch live. Will add the highlights later if there is anything significant, which I feel there won't be.
16:24
It's starting.
17:16
> Much of the work we’ve done is already being felt by the American people, but the vast majority of it will not be felt … over the next 10 years … We have legislation we passed that’s just only now, just really kicking in. We’re going to see over a trillion dollars worth of infrastructure work done, changing people’s lives in rural communities and communities that are in real difficulty.
> However, Donald Trump and his Republican allies in Congress could vote to undo Biden’s legislative accomplishments – something the Democratic president nodded to.

“The road ahead is clear, assuming we sustain it,” he said.
> “Together, we’ve changed America for the better. Now, we have 74 days to finish the term, our term. Let’s make every day count. That’s the responsibility we have to the American people,” he said.

“Setbacks are unavoidable, but giving up is unforgivable. We all get knocked down, but the measure of our character, as my dad would say, is how quickly we get back up. Remember, a defeat does not mean we are defeated. We lost this battle. The America of your dreams is calling for you to get back up. That’s the story of America for over 240 years and counting. It’s a story for all of us, not jus
A part of America is racist, a major part of America is stupid and idiot. This country is surely the greatest of all nations.
This Turkish proverb is all over the internet now:
> The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood he was one of them.
I feel so sorry for Tim Walz, a wonderful man. But America needs a psycho couch lover.
This has the correct message:
The commentator stated:
> Those who win economy, win the election.
> The special session responds to the public statements and proposals put forward by President-elect Trump and his advisors, and actions taken during his first term in office — an agenda that could erode essential freedoms and individual rights, including women’s rights and LGBTQ+ rights. A special session allows for expedited action that will best protect California and its values from attacks. The special session will begin December 2, when the Legislature convenes.
> The Governor’s proclamation calls for legislation to provide additional resources to the California Department of Justice and other state entities to pursue robust affirmative litigation against any unlawful actions by the incoming Trump Administration, as well as defend against federal lawsuits aimed at undermining California’s laws and policies. The funding will support the ability to immediately file litigation and seek injunctive relief against unlawful federal actions.
Hell yeah!
 
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@User1865345 Would put good money that none for the useful idiots that threw their lifes away with Jan6 or other frauds/crimes to help trump will not get a pardon, at all.
 
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So "Your body, my choice" is trending amongst MAGA men. Jfc. MAGA is a cancer on the world, and it just got reelected.

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