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02:03
@Wipqozn when rationality dies in Missouri.
02:28
> A survey released Wednesday found that Harris is ahead of former President Donald Trump 49 percent to 46 percent. The poll was based on the responses of 1,136 likely voters collected by telephone between October 17 and 21.

The poll has a margin of error of 2.9 percent, roughly the same as the gap between Harris and Trump. But it is a positive sign for Democrats as the same poll conducted at the beginning of October found Trump leading by 3 points (50 percent to 47 percent). That poll had a margin of error of 3.1 points and is based on the responses of 1,007 likely voters.
> According to a tracking poll by TIPP Insights, which was rated as the most accurate pollster by The Washington Post in 2020, Harris has a 2-point lead over Trump, with 49 percent support to his 47 percent.
> Trump is not expected to win the popular vote. Pollster Nate Silver's forecast shows that he has a 27 percent chance of winning the popular vote, while Harris has a 72 percent chance. Meanwhile, FiveThirtyEight's poll tracker shows that Harris is ahead by 1.7 points nationally, while Silver's tracker puts her ahead by 1.6 points.
No sane democratic nation has an abomination named Electoral College.
 
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04:40
> “They’re not taking the same exam.”

“He gets to be lawless, she has to be flawless. That’s what's unfair. That's what's unfair tonight,” said former Obama White House official Van Jones. “They're not taking the same exam. Look, she has policies, she may not articulate them perfectly every time…but she’s fighting for actual ideas that will help real people and he’s talking about people’s penises, and so they are not taking the same exam and that’s pissing people off – it’s pissing me off.”
05:57
> Trump has recently overtaken Vice President Kamala Harris in certain states' polling averages, but the data also include a huge number of GOP-leaning polls that could potentially tip the scales.
> TNR used the recent example of Trump overtaking Harris in North Carolina, and a GOP firm known as Quantus taking credit for it, to illustrate what the author said could be a problem.

"To proponents of what might be called the 'Red Wave Theory' of polling, this was a blatant example of a phenomenon that they see as widespread: A flood of GOP-aligned polls has been released for the precise purpose of influencing the polling averages, and thus the election forecasts, in Trump’s favor," the report states.
> "In the view of these critics, the Quantus example (the firm subsequently denied any such intent) only made all this more overt: Dozens of such polls have been released since then, and they are in no small part responsible for tipping the averages—and the forecasts—toward Trump."
> "In their telling, GOP data is serving an essential end of pro-Trump propaganda, which is heavily geared toward painting him as a formidable, 'strong' figure whose triumph over the 'weak' Kamala Harris is inevitable. This illusion is essential to Trump’s electoral strategy, goes this reading, and GOP-aligned data firms are concertedly attempting to build up that impression, both in the polling averages and in media coverage that is gravitationally influenced by it," the report says.
> "Rosenberg and Bonier, the leading critics of these polling aggregations, are quick to point out that even shifts of a small magnitude produced by GOP polls risk badly misleading people," the report states. These momentum reports could be the real underlying concern, according to Sargent.

"That's a real problem!" he added on social media in reference to journalists reporting on these minor shifts, which may be illusory.
 
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08:37
Eileen Cannon as potential Attorney General?!
 
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11:32
@Jolenealaska yes
Think about it.
In future, judges would rule in favor of the leader to get themselves positions. How corrupt, grotesque the very hypothesis is. And this could be reality.
Already the faith on Congress, Supreme Court are at all time low. Then this gem appears.
In Trump's iconic words, he is preparing to make America a "shithole" country.
Just remember the rot is in full swing:
A modern day cult:
Jan 6 peaceful rally was disrupted by outsiders and planned by the left.
What can you say about this pathetic cult? They only believe in the reality conjured up by Trumpolini and his minions at Fox.
12:22
The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential ticket wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome. Introduced in 2006, as of April 2024 it has been adopted by seventeen states and the District of Columbia. These jurisdictions have 209 electoral...
13:15
Companies are trying to prevent the FTC from making subscriptions easier to cancel, because companies don't have your best interests at heart reuters.com/business/media-telecom/…
14:01
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Q: Chat upgrade incoming! No feature changes, but major under-the-hood work

balphaTL;DR We'll be deploying a new version of Chat that has significant under-the-hood changes. Ideally you won't notice anything, but just in case, here's what's happening: ✅ status-completed On Wednesday, October 23, around 15:30 UTC, chat.meta gets the new version. I'll be in the Tavern when I de...

14:39
@User1865345 ... Did we just get a bot on a meta question?
@User1865345 for his supporters, this is a feature, not a bug.
@Nzall received a notification hovering above. Clicked it. Understood nothing. But thought it was relevant and hence posted.
@HannahVernon lol. Exactly.
@Nzall and balpha is apparently here, I just noticed.
Landlords' latest tactic in public battles with tenants: sue them for libel cbc.ca/amp/1.7361387
Fucking landlords. We need to stop allowing trash people from being landlords.
15:49
> Plan A was once fined $10,000 by the provincial housing ministry for violating a law 152 times, was found to have acted in bad faith in trying to evict a tenant and has faced more than one accusation of posting photos in rental ads that don't match the apartments tenants end up getting.
@Wipqozn sue them on what basis? Do they have any valid standing?
@User1865345 Libel
@Wipqozn the last one is textbook level fraud.
@Wipqozn ahh.
@Wipqozn It's not libel if it's the truth (or if it's pure opinion)
16:01
Wait. The thumbnails don't appear anymore?!
@MBraedley Yup
My god. 😭
Is this supposed to happen with the new changes in the chat?
The lack of title in YouTube videos or something else?
Yes
Lack of title. Or am I missing anything?
I posted an answer as a bug report to the meta post.
16:11
@User1865345 It appears videos posted after the upgrade aren't having their hover title, yeah.
Thanks @MBraedley
@Spevacus yep 🤧
Thanks for posting an answer. I threw a comment on it that links here for context.
Not sure if already posted but
Liberals lower immigration targets for Canada cbc.ca/news/politics/new-immigration-levels-plan-1.7361972
> the government is cutting the projected number of new permanent residents from 485,000 this year to 395,000 in 2025, with further cuts to 380,000 in 2026 and 365,000 in 2027.
Desperately needed. We're bringing people in faster than we can build housing to support them. The TFW program is also widely abused to suppress wages and find foreign workers that companies can essentially hold hostage. It's fucked.
Also, PP is holding a news conference. No idea on what. Hasn't started yet.
@Wipqozn i love that dude's impression in 22 minutes. Kinda gives mild Trumpy vibes.
@User1865345 Yeah, a lot of people call him Canadian Trump. I don't think I agree with that, but he's definitely an opportunist just like Trump.
16:24
I see.
16:34
Well, I normally prefer article links to video embeds anyway.
I remember there was a huge ruckus created over the video embeds in another chat room (Agora) by a user.
> Partners at the Wall Street firm backing Donald Trump’s social media platform Truth Social used company funds to pay for prostitutes, abused drugs, partied with strippers and lost millions of dollars gambling, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal.
Issue found, thanks! It's caused by a change in JSON (de)serialization behavior. Fix coming soon. — balpha ♦ 7 mins ago
🥳
I would be impressed if that succeeds to sway even one Trumper.
17:19
@User1865345 I'll never understand how people can defend the USA Healthcare system
@Wipqozn did you find any citizen defending that (apart from MAGA nuts)? Majority believe America has a dysfunctional healthcare. Well education, abortion, and every other thing too.
Thanks to Biden and Bernie, the prices of insulin got lowered.
Trump has "concept of plan" for healthcare. Half of the country has no problem with that.
Well, this McConnell was not that bold: McConnell endorses Trump for president.
17:53
@User1865345 fixed now
19:17
@Wipqozn I was going to share that on Facebook, but of course it's verboten by Meta to share anything even anywhere close to worthy of sharing in Canada (news sites are banned on Meta platforms in Canada, for the non-Canadians in the room)
@User1865345 may as well just have said "majority believe America is dysfunctional*
20:09
Thanks a ton @balpha!
@HannahVernon 🙂
And Donald is gonna fix it.
yes, yes he is. For the rest of time. Just like Adolf.
that's sarcasm of course, for those whose sarcasm meter no longer works.
If you notice especially JD Vance's argument, they wouldn't leave a stone unturned by telling again and again that if Kamala has so much plans, why she didn't do those in these three years.
They forget Trumpolini got a whole presidency and still no infrastructure, no "concept of plans" for healthcare.
Oh my bad. Their beloved tax cut and slashing of Roe v Wade and family separation at the borders. That count as achievements.
@HannahVernon 🤣🤣
20:48
@User1865345 what's that I hear you say, "the rich get richer"?
@HannahVernon Or as the GOP would say trickle down economics work.
It doesn't.
it trickles down one single drop at a time meanwhile the money is really gushing up hill into their pockets
20:50
I loved Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky for that
https://youtu.be/tTBWfkE7BXU?si=zByU8hfAUw6a87T4
Noam Chomsky Manufacturing Consent
One of the first videos that I watched on Chomsky.
yeah the book is beautiful, too
MAGA hates immigrants and trans athletes. They want control of women's body.
> 80% of the population, who's job is to not think
Exactly
Chomsky is a gem.
20:54
yes, yes indeed he is.
So, MAGA has no policy to fix America. Only christianize it in their version.
Laverne is awesome
👏🏻👏🏻
I wonder who Noam votes for.
Bernie
20:57
clearly Bernie if he ever would have been allowed to run
the Dems would never allow him to run though, because he's the antithesis of what they want to happen.
I know. Everyone knows.
I don't however think it would be wise to vote for any third party this time.
The system is what it is. The two party system sucks. The establishment sucks.
But one has to choose the lesser of two evils.
it would only be wise if you want to have Trump win, and I for one think things will go exxtremely badly if that happens.
Trump is a danger to the country.
21:00
100% agree
never mind the country, I would posit he's a danger to in the very least North America.
Never preferred Biden. But I would say with a slim majority, he has done a good job, except his lame response to Gaza genocide.
@HannahVernon to the whole world. He would dismantle NATO. Any climate crisis mitigation efforts. Everything constructive.
@User1865345 anyone with half a brain would have strongly objected to what has been happening in Israel for a very long time, never mind what has been happening lately. Its appalling that America isn't putting extreme pressure on Netanyahu
@User1865345 I agree, however I don't want to seem overly alarmist because many folks tend to focus on the alarm and not the actual possibly harm he'll cause.
@HannahVernon That he is so close to the White House speaks volume of the rot in this country.
He is only interested in bailing himself out of the legal woes and giving another tax cut.
21:07
yep. I mean just a few years ago, merely uttering BDS would get you screamed out of the room as an antisemite.
and that's an actual sane way to get Israel to listen.
@HannahVernon when they confound criticism of Netanyahu regime atrocities to antisemitism. How foolish one has to be to do that.
yeah, but then fully 50% of the folks are below average intelligence
you know, by definition
21:25
LA Times: for personal undisclosed reasons, the editor has left the building.
 
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