This Is Fine

it'd be less embarrassing than giving a speech like "actually it was good that the police did a hit and run" and then the sheriff's union posts like "I should be allowed to shoot bill deblasio"

Tim Stone

> Lights that usually illuminate exterior of the WH have been turned off

Unionhawk

Partially relatedly guess who might be getting into a fight over police "unions" it's meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee come at me national

(I wrote a bylaws amendment to exclude law enforcement and so-called police union organizers from our local but I'm pretty sure the second part is not allowed yet sooooooo)

Tim Stone

3:25 AM

@Unionhawk Or uhhh post his daughter's full address and personal info?

Unionhawk

(it's essentially the IWW rule plus the police union bit, no individuals sworn badged and armable by the government to enforce the law, no prison guards regardless of who pays them, and no union orgnizers that represent any individuals belonging to the aforementioned groups)

Tim Stone

"Physical condition: Apparently Normal"

Apparently they've managed to set the White House guardhouse on fire

Although I think looking at the map that building is actually on the far side of Lafayette Square

Unionhawk

oh no that notification

> Something about Biden visiting a Delaware protest idk I dismissed all to quick

no thanks

Tim Stone

I think he's just supposed to have a virtual town hall with Wilmington city officials tomorrow

Unionhawk

author of 1994 crime bill etc etc I'm tired you write the rest of the post

I don't get paid enough for this

Tim Stone

3:44 AM

> Delaware State Rep. Mike Smith (R-Newark), via a Facebook video, said there was "intelligence out there that there could be some incidents similar to what happened in Wilmington and other areas."

lol, this asshole

a) there wasn't
b) the median household income of the area he was talking about is over $100k

So he knew what he was doing

Unionhawk

what, happened in wilmington? The same shit as everywhere?

Tim Stone

> Reports of a Tiger on the loose near the Oakland Zoo. If you see it call 911. 98th Ave at Golf Links

@Unionhawk Yeah, of course

Unionhawk

intelligence suggests that people in more than one city are unhappy about a guy getting murdered by a cop

they may all be paid since as we all know people can't just act on their own wills

Tim Stone

The mall was supposed to open tomorrow but they'll be delaying now because while it was totally cool if my fiancee got COVID, can't risk the tiniest chance of looting

Tim Stone

4:04 AM

jk they counted the tigers and they're all there

Jolenealaska

4:24 AM

Cops took a knee with protesters in Oakland just now. Good moment.

Stormblessed

at 7:07 Birmingham protestors brought down a confederate monument!

the best “vandalism”

Jolenealaska

Another good moment!

Stormblessed

Does the government actually waste money maintaining these?

I’d assume so?

Tim Stone

kpop fans overwhelmed Dallas PD's snitch app with fancams until they had to take it down

lol Twitter deleted the SBA's tweet doxxing DeBlasio's daughter

Unionhawk

4:39 AM

good

meanwhile in portland, this PR stunt that lasted negative 3 minutes

Wipqozn

12:24 PM

@Stormblessed Confederate monuments? Absolutely

A large portion of Americans love their tributes to slavery monuments

Wipqozn

12:44 PM

Footage from around the whitehouse last night: reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guek6f/…

Officer who pushed over a kneeling girl gets confronted by another officer reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gubleh/…

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Oh apparently he did walk around talking to people in Wilmington

Wipqozn

lol fucking amazing

some streamer tried to get protesters to flip over a truck, and they called him out for being a piece of shit, and then he ran reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guajeu/…

Cop dropping off water for protesters reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu968x/…

You know, it's amazing how much more receptive to police protesters are when the cops aren't trying to shoot or choke them...

I'm sure that's not an indication of anything. NOPE.

The Terminator talking about how there's "No Two Sides to Bigotry" reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guiddj/lets_terminate_hate

Unionhawk

1:23 PM

@TimStone area man who was vice president in 2014 etc

> CPS suspends food distribution program ‘based on the evolving nature of activity’ in Chicago

ah

Wipqozn

1:39 PM

pbs.twimg.com/media/…

twitter.com/deAdder/status/1267417689494036485

MBraedley

@Wipqozn He's had some really good ones these past couple of days

Tim Stone

1:55 PM

Tom Cotton with the very specific dumb take

> If local law enforcement is overwhelmed and needs backup, let's see how tough these Antifa terrorists are when they're facing off with the 101st Airborne Division

Wipqozn

@MBraedley Yup. Him and Bruce are always greatr.

Tim Stone

> ATL Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms asked right now on CNN if President Trump is capable of delivering a unifying national message: “I think he is capable of reading one.”

Online betting taking wagers on this now

MBraedley

Is he capable of not editorializing it?

Nzall

@MBraedley I really liked his cartoons, but I had to unfollow him during my politics account purge

MBraedley

Yeah, makes sense

Unionhawk

2:09 PM

So it looks like cell jammers are being deployed in various locations

Kind of wish I had a HAM license right about now lol

Tim Stone

A swath of SCOTUS decisions this morning

Unionhawk

> To better secure your personal information, the FCC no longer displays your Password or Personal Security Answer.

did... the FCC display your password in plaintext upon registration in the past

God this website has some great UX lol

ok so a GMRS license is $70 for 10 years... hmm

If I'm declared a terrorist does that make me eligible for CIA money to pay for this

Wipqozn

2:35 PM

Just to see the other side...

Guy getting laughed at by rioters after they burned down his small business reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu7heh/…

Folks saying it don't matter since he's got insurance, probably, but uh, I don't think people realize how much insurance companies will try to screw over anyone that isn't a big business

Insurance companies aren't your friends. IF you don't got expensive lawyers, they'll try to fuck you over as much as possible. Small businesses included.

Unionhawk

I mean, they'd have no standing to deny this claim

what are they going to do, try and cite the war exclusion?

Wipqozn

Different angle of a video from yesterday of police just randomnly breaking into some car attacking people: reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu8pa8/this_is_fucked_up

@Unionhawk Mostly they can try to delay, underpay, et cetera

Unionhawk

I do wonder if the past few days is going to be considered catastrophic loss lol

Wipqozn

oh sounds like they got fired: ajc.com/news/breaking-news/…

Unionhawk

(CAT loss is reported in another bucket, to distinguish "town hit by tornado" from "restaurant has grease fire")

Nzall

2:39 PM

@TimStone anything really important?

Like, from an outsider perspective, I can't tell what most of those cases are about

Wipqozn

More examples of protesters and cops getting along reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gucy1d/…

Again, I don't know what the difference is between the examples when protesters hate cops and when they don't....hmmm..

Certainly has nothing to do with the behaviour of the police officers. Nah.

NAAAAAAAH

Unionhawk

Most of these cases I've seen they just kind of

grab a photo and then gear back up

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk lol yeah depends on the cop. For me it's all about highlighting how if the cops weren't, you know, being terrible then things wouldn't be so bad.

When cops arne't like, abusing protesters, then the protesters have no problem with the cops.,

aka cops stop being fucking terrible, and we wouldn't be in this situation right now

Tim Stone

@Nzall They skipped the more contentious rulings, the most well known one in this lot was probably the case about whether Puerto Rico's oversight board selection was constitutional and the answer was yes

Wipqozn

These protests are already having a positive impact, though, since quite a few cops have been fired for excessive force during the protests (like above).

Hopefully this leads to this becoming common practice going forward.

Unionhawk

2:44 PM

@TimStone I like all the 7-2 with Alito and Thomas dissent lol

Wipqozn

more skyhigh footage of crowds reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu4vi4/…

Chicago

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn New York State is looking at repealing 50-a which shields police personnel records

Wipqozn

Officers harassing more reporters reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guib8q/…

You know, if you're so concerned about being recorded, probably a sign you're doing bad...

@Unionhawk Good, good

Also I'm sure it'll be depressing lol but good

Tim Stone

3:11 PM

> Any push by Trump to readmit Russia to the G7 would be vetoed by the U.K., Boris Johnson's official spokesperson said Monday

lol imagine being bested by BoJo

Ave

@Wipqozn acab

Wipqozn

@Ave All Cats Are Beautiful? I agree!

Ave

agreed

Wipqozn

9Actually right now my younger cat is being a mschief maker

He almost posted a zoom link here for my comany wide meeting. What a guy. WHAT A GUY.

Also he's not got a taste for Mil-k+

All those typos are becasue of him

not that one though

Tim Stone

3:42 PM

Trump wants the governors to "dominate" and suppress dissent

Stormblessed

Ezra Klein: "This is a country on the verge of war…"

…what…

Tim Stone

Oh no we're going to very strongly activate Bill Barr

Also DC has imposed another curfew but also has an election open until after the curfew so hmmm 🤔

Oh good now he's talked to Putin, who I'm sure gave him sane advice about dealing with protests

Wipqozn

4:14 PM

> MORE: Trump tells governors: "You’ve got to arrest people, you have to track people, you have to put them in jail for 10 years and you’ll never see this stuff again," per audio obtained by
@CBSNews

Holy fuck that's absolutely insane

> TRUMP ADDS: "You know when other countries watch this, they’re watching this, the next day wow, they’re really a push over. And we can’t be a push over. And we have all the resources – it’s not like we don’t have the resources. So, I don’t know what you’re doing."

Actually what we're thinking is you're a dictator

Stormblessed

4:28 PM

National security adviser Robert O’Brien: “I want to tell our foreign adversaries, whether it’s un you know uh Zimbabwe or China…”

Zimbabwe being a threat to the US similar to China is a new one

Tim Stone

> Sources on Gov call say IL Gov Pritzker called out President Trump telling him: "the rhetoric coming out of the WH is making it worse..People are feeling real pain out there. We have to have national leadership in calling for calm." POTUS: "I don’t like your rhetoric much either”

lol this manbaby holy shit

Wipqozn

@TimStone Woooow

Honestly, whenever I think he can't sink any lower, he does.

At this rate I'm wondering how long it'll be until protesters and rioters just storm past the white house gates

Wipqozn

4:57 PM

Obama wrote a thing medium.com/@BarackObama/…

> So the bottom line is this: if we want to bring about real change, then the choice isn’t between protest and politics. We have to do both. We have to mobilize to raise awareness, and we have to organize and cast our ballots to make sure that we elect candidates who will act on reform.

Sure is interesting to see the difference in response from the current POTUS and the previous one.

@TimStone Related article: cbsnews.com/news/…

> "You've got to arrest these people. You've got arrest these people – and you've got to charge them," the president said to the governors. "And you can't do this deal where they get one week in jail. These are terrorists, these are terrorists, they're looking to do bad things to our country. They're Antifa and they're radical left."

@TimStone Fuller quote:

> And Illinois Democratic Governor J.B. Pritzker called on the president to tone down his political rhetoric. "We have to call for calm, we have to have police reform called for. … The rhetoric coming out of the White House is making it worse."

> "I don't like your rhetoric much, either," the president said before moving on. "But that's okay, we don't agree with each other."

Nzall

5:39 PM

> Biden said "there are a lot of different things that can change" about police training. One example he said was if cops rushed by unarmed person, they could "shoot them in the leg instead of the heart is a very different thing."

source: twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1267488711375228929

Unionhawk

5:50 PM

so apparently Cincinnati just held hundreds of people outside last night

"It's dangerous for you to violate the curfew" yeah man you run the risk of getting beaten up by 6 cops in full riot gear

and then get zip tied and left outside for 9 hours

Stormblessed

wow this is so great, Vox (an insane far-right horrible political party) in Spain is using Trump's declaration that Antifa is a terrorist organization for political gain

@Nzall he said "an armed person with a knife"

didn't say that they should shoot unarmed people

still should be shooting less people either way

Unionhawk

Honestly given that a lot of them train with the IDF it's surprising that they don't shoot more people in the leg

Stormblessed

@Unionhawk what's the IDF

oh Israel defense forces?

Unionhawk

Yeah

Stormblessed

do they come here to train them or is it that police go there for training?

Unionhawk

5:59 PM

Departments send guys there to train

amnestyusa.org/…

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk uhhh wtf

Unionhawk

Welcome to hell

Population: 1 guy who is surprised american cops don't play "see how many kneecaps you can shoot", and also the rest of you

Wipqozn

Stormblessed

@Unionhawk we should not do this

police should not train with a military, that’s insane

also one with so many problems with very excessive force

Tim Stone

6:17 PM

> The @courierjournal has confirmed the identity of a popular BBQ business owner fatally shot last night in Louisville PD, National Guard incident in West End

If looting is bad murdering a small business owner is worse right?

> Conrad said it is unclear if the person who was shot was the person who also fired at the officers

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Unionhawk

I uh, don't think that was unclear

Pretty sure that's actually "clearly did not"

Tim Stone

tfw you were definitely shot at but not sure if you shot the person who shot you, since it could have been someone else you shot

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is firing indiscriminately at other people

Nzall

I can't believe this isn't satire: Canada veteran frustrated he has to annually fill out a form to say his legs are still missing

Like, it's unlikely the guy managed to become a Knight Radiant.

Stormblessed

6:51 PM

@Nzall lol

Wipqozn

@Nzall Uh, okay

BradC

7:11 PM

I think the content was discussed above, but here is a full WaPo article on Trump's call with governors:

Trump calls governors ‘weak,’ urges them to use force against unruly protests

> Trump also called on the governors to take back the streets and use force to confront protesters. He said if they did not, they would look like “fools,” alarming several governors on the call as they communicated privately, according to the officials.

Yeah, soooooooooooooooo not what we need right now

Tim Stone

8:32 PM

@Unionhawk Hmmm apparently the police didn't have their bodycams on either! The police chief has subsequently been fired

Wipqozn

8:43 PM

@TimStone Sounds like the chief was already retiring this month

Tim Stone

Of course

Wipqozn

@TimStone Also no, because material goods are more valuable than people.

At least, that's certainly what a lot of people seem to think...

Unionhawk

So I watched the video from inside the courtyard of the Hamilton County Justice Center, where hundreds of people were held outside, overnight, with no food, water, bathrooms, or blankets, for over 9 hours, and I'm not having a good time right now

BradC

8:59 PM

@Unionhawk That's in Cincinatti?

Unionhawk

@BradC yes

1 prisoner had a seizure and needed to be revived

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk That's beyond fucked up

Wipqozn

9:24 PM

Trump: 'I wish we had an occupying force' cbc.ca/player/play/1744994371721

Landlords in B.C. who are eligible for emergency federal rent relief and choose not to apply will not be able to evict businesses that aren't able to pay rent, B.C. Finance Minister Carole James announced Monday. cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/…

> James said the order is meant to protect small businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic and to encourage landlords to apply for the Canada Emergency Commercial Rent Assistance (CERCA), which aims to reduce rent owed by small business tenants by 75 per cent for April, May and June.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday set a July 1 date for a nationwide vote on constitutional amendments allowing him to extend his rule until 2036, even as the nation is continuing to record high numbers of new coronavirus cases. cbc.ca/news/world/…

Mad Scientist

BradC

9:43 PM

Trump considering a move to invoke Insurrection Act

go back into your underground bunker, dude. Stop getting ideas

Wipqozn

> President Donald Trump could announce as early as Monday night that he’s invoking a 213-year-old federal law that would allow him to deploy active-duty U.S. troops to respond to protests in cities across the country, according to four people familiar with the decision.

Mad Scientist

@BradC He's really trying to escalate shit. I just hope that in the end nobody follows as most power is still with the states as far as I understand. He could override that, but then he'd also have no easy way to shift responsibility away from jim

@Wipqozn It's probably Stephen Miller egging on Trump, and a bunch of other assholes.

Wipqozn

> But the president could invoke the Insurrection Act to deploy active-duty troops without a request from a governor. Those troops would be allowed to conduct law enforcement missions. To invoke the act, Trump would first have to issue a proclamation to “immediately order the insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time,” according to the law.

@MadScientist It would certainly explain how he knew this was a thing that existed.

BradC

@MadScientist probably

> Some of the president’s aides have been encouraging him for days to invoke the act, as he weighs options for exercising executive powers to address the crisis. The act was last invoked during the 1992 Rodney King riots in Los Angeles.

Mad Scientist

If there is one thing Trump understands, it's shifting blame to others. I think that might be the only thing preventing him from invoking that kind of power

Right now he can just blame the governors.

Wipqozn

9:54 PM

George Floyd death: George's brother Terrence Floyd says more violence won't "bring my brother back"

►

Wipqozn

10:39 PM

OAP Claims He’s Been Mysteriously Receiving Pizza Deliveries He Didn’t Order For Almost A Decade igvofficial.com/…

I really want pizza now

Tim Stone

10:58 PM

> Source tells me park rangers are clearing Lafayette Park (with tear gas) because President Trump is going to walk to St. John’s church from the White House soon

DC police apparently aren't even involved, this is all the federal government clearing people out for Trump's photo op

RedRiderX

How did park rangers even get their hands on tear gas?

Tim Stone

I'm assuming it was some combination of federal agencies

Tim Stone

11:18 PM

My god, this is just so breathtakingly dumb

Wipqozn

Trump threatens to deploy military amid national unrest axios.com/…

The fact he doesn't even seem to address, you know, the incident that started all this and the police brutality just speaks volumes about how little he cares

Videos from outside the whitehouse twitter.com/atrupar/status/1267586046595923968

He makes a point to say he's protecting your second amendment rights. Fucking psychopath.

@TimStone Good thing he tear gassed all those protesters to do that

Tim Stone

"Is that your bible?" "It's a bible"

Unionhawk

11:42 PM

Bill de Blasio is apparently going to use the first veto of his mayorship

He's going to veto a ban on the use of chokeholds by NYPD

@Wipqozn oh huh

I just saw this presented as a possible angle

Terrorism Risk Insurance Act

The Terrorism Risk Insurance Act (TRIA) (H.R. 3210, Pub.L. 107–297) is a United States federal law signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 26, 2002. The Act created a federal "backstop" for insurance claims related to acts of terrorism. The Act "provides for a transparent system of shared public and private compensation for insured losses resulting from acts of terrorism." The Act was originally set to expire December 31, 2005, was extended for two years in December 2005, and was extended again on December 26, 2007. The Terrorism Risk Insurance Program Reauthorization Act expired...

Tim Stone

@Wipqozn Holy fuck the GOP already tweeted it out as an ad clip

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk tl;dr?

@TimStone Holy shit. Wow.

Tim Stone

@Wipqozn If you're involved in a terrorism your insurance company doesn't have to pay out

Wipqozn

@TimStone Gotcha

Tim Stone

"Ah sucks you lost an eye but shouldn't have been involved in a terrorism, since by protesting you are clearly antifa, and thus a terrorist, because you're anti-fascist"

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