@BunsGlazing there is a difference I think between "I created this for the sake of art" and "I created this because I am producing art as a service", although "I am creating art for the sake of art" still doesn't mean you should get to be a shit heel and express harmful bigoted stuff.
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@TimStone that's wonderful. People are fantastic. sigh
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@GodEmperorDune fucking hell. I hate seclusion/restraint because people use it when they shouldn't because it's "easy" rather than y'know, dealing with the actual issue
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(I was trained in some restraint stuff as a personal support worker, but it was always phrased as absolute last resort, and if I ever used it with the agencies I worked with, the amount of paperwork and tracking and explanation and monitoring I would have gone through made it very much preferable to find alternate options when possible. I hate that not everywhere is like that.)
@Ash yeah a proper restraint should never kill anyone and you are NOT SUPPOSED TO DO IT FOR HOURS
Scoop: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin spending the day in Cabo on the phone with bank executives in a bid to reassure investors before markets open on Monday via @CNN https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/23/politics/treasury-mnuchin-bank-executive-market-volatility/index.html
Mnuchin: don't worry, despite the shutdown everything is fi..... Investor: Trump just tweeted that he signed an executive order firing everyone from the federal reserve bank Mnuchin: oh for fuck sake
Because many LGBT people can’t spend X-Mas Day with their blood relatives, many gay bars stay open so they can be with their chosen families instead—and some even serve a full Christmas dinner at no cost, a.k.a. FREE HAM.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-lgbt-bars-are-open-on-christmas-day-for-cheer-and-company
@Wipqozn I would feel the same way I do about them now, which is that they're stupid for not being willing to do that, but I don't think they should get in legal trouble. I'm sure it's not hard to find an artist who doesn't hold the same beliefs
and the bacon thing idk it seems similar in that it's asking a service provider to go against personally held beliefs
when you can just find one who doesn't hold the same ones
right?
@Wipqozn Yeah I guess for whatever reason I find this to be fucked but the marriage art thing less so. That's weird.
well there are differences
They are doing art for weddings, they probably don't feel comfortable creatively expressing that, but I mean a restaurant is just food service they have no excuse
Please do not yet again mistake this for me defending their actions to decline, I just dont think legal trouble is appropriate
@BunsGlazing it is perhaps a mistake to take this bait but "I'm not defending them, I just think they should be allowed to do the thing, which is different. Please notice this difference." theyre-the-same-picture.jpg
“It should not be the job of America to replace regimes around the world. This is what President Trump recognized in Iraq, that it was the biggest foreign policy disaster of the last several decades, and he’s right...The generals still don’t get the mistake.” @RandPaul
I don't know it still feels wrong to me to try and force them to make some art that goes against their personally held beliefs, however 'wrong' we may see those to be
Israel has halted the entry of vaccines to Palestine: http://imemc.org/article/no-vaccination-for-palestinian-children-decides-the-occupying-power-israel/?fbclid=IwAR0x2ngIaf3g1Q-QYrYGkVIVMDDbMPWEBX3mHmCqlwwABFwb-BAReKA870Y
BREAKING: Columbus Mayor Andrew Ginther announces Columbus Police Chief Kim Jacobs will retire in February of 2019. https://www.10tv.com/article/chief-columbus-division-police-retire-february
Non-Binary Will Be An Official Gender Option At D.C., Arlington, And Alexandria Schools | DCist https://dcist.com/story/18/12/10/non-binary-will-be-an-official-gender-option-at-d-c-arlington-and-alexandria-schools/
@BunsGlazing A persons personal belief doesn't give them justification to infringe another persons right to just exist. And there's no quotations around wrong. Being against same sex marriage is just pure bigotry, no more, no less. Folks can wrap it around with as many excuses as they want, but it's just bigotry, and a tolerant society can never tolerant intolerance.
And when you start a business you give up certain rights as far as "expressing yourself" goes
FWIW I don't think that last part is technically true as far as US law goes, for better or worse. But we can probably avoid the argument about what constitutes a valid religious exception because I think the suggestion that anti-LGBTQness is a core part of Christianity is absurd and manufactured for the sake of discrimination to begin with
I am all alone (poor me) in the White House waiting for the Democrats to come back and make a deal on desperately needed Border Security. At some point the Democrats not wanting to make a deal will cost our Country more money than the Border Wall we are all talking about. Crazy!
EXEC1F - Climbing out from Palm Beach, Florida
Melania Trump heading back to DC for Christmas...
🇺🇸 US Air Force
C-37B 09-0525
http://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9026851
@TimStone idk what the flight plan there was (depart from PBI or from some air force base) but I assume they either had 09-0525 on hand there, or flew it in
These are indeed, the only two possibilities
it's like when you use the ship transfer service in elite
but in real life and with the air force
INCOMING MESSAGE: your gulfstream g550 has arrived at PBI. thank you for choosing the united states air force
@Unionhawk I meant more like what they did with the other plane that it didn't fly back. Although I guess they expected AF1 to show up, so that makes sense
It's my understanding that Kevin Spacey, instead of in any way trying to atone for his sexual abuses, has just tweeted a video where he goes full on sociopath. So between that and Trump's rambling we're having a very normal & cool Christmas Eve today
yeah he is definitely doing the frank underwood character. still highly inappropes
it is some meta commentary on the final house of cards season that was done without him. could be just extremely poorly timed to coincide with the felony charges
but definitely a multi layered thing about the abuse, no matter the timing
NEW: A federal judge has awarded parents of Otto Warmbier more than half a *billion* dollars in their lawsuit against North Korea, writing the regime is "liable for the torture, hostage taking, and extrajudicial killing of Otto Warmbier and the injuries to his mother and father."
I am in the Oval Office & just gave out a 115 mile long contract for another large section of the Wall in Texas. We are already building and renovating many miles of Wall, some complete. Democrats must end Shutdown and finish funding. Billions of Dollars, & lives, will be saved!