This Is Fine

12:16 AM

Brock Turner conviction affirmed. http://www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/nonpub/H043709.PDF

Tweeted by ScottGreenfield on August 8, 2018 at 11:55 PM

👍👍👍

This CBC interview with a spokesperson from a DC-based Saudi lobby group is really something: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-wednesday-edition-1.4777527/saudi-arabia-justified-in-cutting-ties-with-canada-says-head-of-pro-saudi-group-1.4777535

Tweeted by MazMHussain on August 9, 2018 at 12:04 AM

Don't forget that Saudi Arabia's "border protection" with Qatar involves possibly digging a trench and dumping radioactive waste into it

1:44 AM

@TimStone but give it a month and the asshat or his laywers will find another way to try and change the definition of rape

2:01 AM

lol damnit Maddow did that crap again

BREAKING: @maddow has fundraiser audio of Nunes saying this: "If Sessions won't un-recuse and Mueller won't clear the president, we're the only ones -- which is really the danger. That's why I keep, and thank you for saying it by the way, I mean we have to keep all these seats"

Tweeted by AaronBlake on August 9, 2018 at 1:00 AM

Like that's not explosive at all, it's just dumb as hell because he knows the President Is Bad

@TimStone why bother asking for Sessions to un-recuse himself if you're still wanting Mueller to clear Trump?

It's just easier than assuming Mueller will clear Trump

For various reasons where he may or may not know if Trump did Crimes

North Korea rejects US proposal to slash nuclear arsenal after Trump said nuclear threat was over: report http://hill.cm/1ZQolSm

Tweeted by thehill on August 9, 2018 at 1:10 AM

> Trump: get rid of your nukes
Un: naaaa, i'll keep them
Trump: this guy is great

An astute tweeter points out that the Puerto Rico government's report to Congress quietly revised the death toll estimate from 64 -- to 1,427. Did I miss that announcement? http://www.p3.pr.gov/assets/pr-draft-recovery-plan-for-comment-july-9-2018.pdf

Tweeted by FrancesRobles on August 9, 2018 at 1:58 AM

Zinke blames wildfires on "radical environmentalists" http://hill.cm/zIInvZV

Tweeted by thehill on August 9, 2018 at 12:28 AM

lol, first it was because of environmental laws, now it's environmentalists

2:13 AM

Yeah, I think we got his article up there somewhere

who's next? Dems?

Giuliani tells Hannity that if Mueller isn't done by Sept, it would be a "very very serious violation" of DOJ rules about elections

Tweeted by woodruffbets on August 9, 2018 at 1:30 AM

Almost choked on my dinner

@TimStone can probably assume he's talking crap again

@TimStone wut

Oh 100%

2:14 AM

for a lawyer he says alot of wrong things about the law

But to even try this lie in the face of waves hands at last several years

he's sorta like Lionel Hutz

And if you were unsure if Alex jones was deserving of good faith...

JUST IN: Mark Enoch, a lawyer for Alex Jones, is attempting to make public the home addresses of two Sandy Hook parents. When I asked if he realized that this could further damage their livelihoods, he hung up on me. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alex-jones-lawyer-sandy-hook-parents-addresses_us_5b6b036be4b0b15abaa940a3?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

Tweeted by SebastianMurdoc on August 8, 2018 at 6:20 PM

@Memor-X Lionel hutz is likeable tho

@GodEmperorDune good point

@GodEmperorDune What the hell is wrong with these people

This isn't even necessary for the grift, it's purely cruel

2:16 AM

@TimStone maybe Alex Jones is sorta right. Lizard People are putting stuff in the water, but it ain't making toads gay, it's making him and people around him insane

I regret to inform you that I have another spicy take

“...If tech companies want to promote peace, they should stand with, not against, the United States’ defense community.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/silicon-valley-should-stop-ostracizing-the-military/2018/08/08/7a7e0658-974f-11e8-80e1-00e80e1fdf43_story.html by @PalmerLuckey & @traestephens

Tweeted by Carter_PE on August 9, 2018 at 1:36 AM

"The US military-industrial complex: Actually the only road to peace!"

@TimStone (related)

this seems like an incredibly significant story https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/08/08/study-links-opioid-deaths-workplace-injuries/RL0MF2br6JHDDgyiPpMYfM/amp.html

Tweeted by alexnpress on August 9, 2018 at 2:15 AM

ICE raids a dozen businesses in Nebraska and Minnesota in tax fraud investigation http://hill.cm/4GCt9o6

Tweeted by thehill on August 9, 2018 at 2:28 AM

> ...ICE led the raids on businesses they allege knowingly hired and improperly treated undocumented immigrants

🤔

Okay I have a next-stop for y'all

Also weird that ICE takes point on a tax fraud investigation just because it involved illegal immigrants 🤷

2:35 AM

@TimStone sound normal to me

White American committing tax fraud? naaa leave that to the IRS. an immigrant? holy shit we need to get on it right way

@TimStone abolish ICE, restore the IRS

@GodEmperorDune IRS, that's the group i was trying to think of

Union City's police chief learned of a disturbing assault on a Sikh man. Then he found out the alleged attacker was his son http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-union-city-chief-20180808-story.html

Tweeted by DoHoBOB on August 9, 2018 at 2:39 AM

Like, the attacker is the police chief's son

Holy hell, today in bad faith:

Pigging out: 49% millennials spend more eating out than saving for retirement https://washex.am/2KEwOK8

Tweeted by dcexaminer on August 9, 2018 at 2:20 AM

$163 a month. < $5.5 a day

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the reason they aren't saving for retirement isn't because they're eating too much but because they're barely getting paid

lol ffs

Looks like the Commerce Department via NOAA is using emergency consultation provisions under the Endangered Species Act to make good on Trump's tweets to deliver more water downstream in California

Tweeted by jeremydillonCQ on August 8, 2018 at 6:28 PM

I'm not 100% sure what their plan is here but @GodEmperorDune they're probably going to drown you somehow good luck

2:59 AM

No they’re just killing a bunch of irreplaceable species for a pork barrel project

I don't even understand how it's supposed to work

"We don't need more water"
"Okay we're getting you more water"
"What the hell, we don't need the damn water"
"It's here now"

Best case is that state officials ignore it

Worst case is they fuck up a large project just to soothe trump’s ego and distract from Wilbur ross’s shenanigans

Yeah, I just...like this is the dumbest shit

Climate change is gonna get worse and there will be worse fires and no endangered species to throw under the bus

Oh, on a somewhat related note I saw earlier that we might be able to n-fixify corn which would be pretty good except for the fact we'd continue to grow my nemesis, corn

But would reduce fertilizer needs, which is a plus

@TimStone lol incredible

3:23 AM

@GodEmperorDune or water to waste on drowning states

Charlie Kirk gonna be real embarrassed he didn't get the memo when he finds out what Laura Ingraham just did

3:44 AM

@TimStone love to kick the racism up to 11

man charlie is going to lose his job at the racism factory if he doesn't step his game up

4:58 AM

A man and woman in their 30s are dead after drive-by shooting from a van with a high-powered rifle in North Philly. 6 people shot in total, they were standing on the street corner. Gunman is at large. Commissioner Ross calls the crime “absolutely ridiculous.” @NBCPhiladelphia

Tweeted by drewsmithtv on August 9, 2018 at 3:26 AM

urgh

6:56 AM

You could vote a Captain Planet villain into office and they’d be better for the environment than the GOP.

Tweeted by JimSterling on August 8, 2018 at 1:04 PM

7:07 AM

Trump lays off 40 employees at financial watchdog office: report http://hill.cm/mYo9XZ5

Tweeted by thehill on August 9, 2018 at 3:56 AM

not unexpected......but

Federal deficit jumps 20 percent after Trump tax cuts, spending bill: CBO report http://hill.cm/LW7PFQi

Tweeted by thehill on August 9, 2018 at 4:34 AM

Ave

9:02 AM

so uh

someone said "Hate speech is protected under constitution. Ask the ACLU if you don't believe me." on a very disturbing chat. Did ACLU ever claim that or?

"The NRA is the only thing preventing an OWG, actually." alright they lost all of my to even try to take them seriously.

I need popcorn.

"Frankly I have no problem with the whole separating children thing for that matter. If you crossed MS-13 territory with a child illegally, that's public endangerment." okay I'm taking a break

9:21 AM

@Ave There is no exception to hate speech in the 1st amendment

lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/…

Ave

"Nice trolling, but, the natives sold us the land." okay I am laughing so much

@Ave OWG as in 1 world government? Because I'd actually love that

Ave

yes.

there's problems with it.

Such as "corruption". And instead of needing to corrupt hundreds of govts to have tons of control everywhere, now you just need to corrupt one govt.

I am all for open borders but OWG makes no sense.

fredley

10:30 AM

@Ave I mean, they did, technically. And there is no such thing as hate speech in the constitution. Free speech is taken to mean literally any speech. You can't be arrested by the government for saying things (or using forms of expression classified as 'speech') in the US.

10:57 AM

@fredley This has been taken to some awesome loophole abuses, like the creator of PGP encryption exporting his source code as a book because of restrictions on exporting encryption

But also to some shitty stuff, like the recent 3D printed gun debacle

11:26 AM

Tribune Media terminates $3.9 billion deal to be bought by Sinclair, alleging breach of contract

> "To maintain control over stations it was obligated to sell, Sinclair engaged in unnecessarily aggressive and protracted negotiations with the Department of Justice and the FCC over regulatory requirements," Tribune said.

11:38 AM

Bernie Sanders Calls Saudi Arabia's Response To Canada 'Outrageous'

> "Canada will always stand up for the protection of human rights, including women's rights and freedom of expression around the world. We will never hesitate to promote these values and we believe that this dialogue is critical to international diplomacy."

that's from the Canadian government, now Bernie

> "Canada and Saudi Arabia are both close allies of the United States. I refer you to the Canadian and Saudi Ministries of Foreign Affairs for further information," the official wrote in an email.

that's the USA gov't

Gotta be honest I don't understand the hesitation to call out a country that supports crucifying people, but hey, what do I know

It's essentially the highest form of capital punishment, but jesus

Six Months at Riot Games

Another first hand accounts from an ex-riot employee

> Before I detail some of what I experienced at Riot, first, let me state the obvious. The behavior below is NOT indicative of all Riot employees. The large majority of Riot employees I’ve met have been lovely, and as evidenced above, there are many people who weren’t subject to sexist behavior and harassment.

> That being said, from my own experiences and that of many others speaking out this week, an unacceptable number of people – primarily, but not exclusively women – have been subject to inappropriate behavior at Riot for years. It is systemic to the company’s culture and needs to be addressed as such.

> My very first week at the Dublin office, I heard shouting from individuals playing together, calling each other “[homophobic slur]” repeatedly. I was unnerved, but it was my first week and I didn’t know if this was a common occurrence. I didn’t say anything at that time. Eventually, the language would escalate to “[racist slur]”. No one flinched, and I realized it was considered the norm

Slightly tweaked to remove the actual slurs. Just using * isn't ideal.

I was going to post more excerpts but I'd basically need to post the whole article, jesus

> Asking me what age I lost my virginity at was deemed appropriate conversation during a team dinner, and employees I didn’t know prodded into how my sex life worked in a long-distance relationship.

Also targeted harassment began against her after this:

> My first month at Riot we had an opportunity to talk with one of the CEOs for an office-wide AMA. We were encouraged to submit questions anonymously. I submitted something that had bothered me for some time as a League player. I wondered why – other than the child characters and Yordles – nearly all the female champions had the exact same body type

Senior staff asked her to ask this live since they "liked" the question, but the response as garbage

> I felt out of place in my direct team as well. Our Jira sprints were named things like “thong.” I was the only woman on that particular team, and so a senior staff member named us the “Bros and Ho”. I immediately tried to shut that down, but it was used for weeks regardless.

12:06 PM

I'd be shocked, but I feel like such things are unfortunately par for the course in a lot of gaming companies

> Then came the final straw. At a work dinner, it came up that I thought I’d been paired in a hotel room with a male Rioter. It turned out to be a typo in the name, and, as was standard, I was paired with another woman. A senior staff member proceeded to repeatedly call me sexist for not being willing to room with a man I’d never met before

@Nzall I honestly don't think they are

Like I think sexism like this exists at a lot of companies

This amount of sexism is just on a whole other extreme

And there's many gaming companies which, at least in their games, have been making steps to actively be more inclusive

aka I think sexism exists at a lot of companies and game companies, but I believe this level of extremity isn't common

> Further examples of disrespect include when I argued that we shouldn’t let a cosplayer in blackface on our stage for a parade, keeping in mind that Riot is a global company. I was repeatedly called racist by my colleagues, who tried to convince me that it was an acceptable practice and I was overreacting.

@Wipqozn I mean, I doubt Riot is the only company where it comes to such extremes

> After word got out that I quit, I was contacted by several other women from the office, asking to meet. I was told more horror stories, discovering that some of them had been physically touched, cornered in shared vehicles, and faced professional retaliation for turning down advances

@Nzall I never claimed otherwise. I disagreed with your assertion that this is common.

> To be clear, not everything from my time at Riot was negative. I became good friends with several of my co-workers and loved interacting with fans. Riot is a massive company that employs thousands of people.

> There are going to be women at the company who’ve never experienced sexism or harassment from their colleagues. I am very happy that they have found a safe working space with their particular branches or teams. That being said, these harassment-free experiences don’t invalidate the experiences of women like myself, and the dozens of others I personally met while working at Riot, who struggled with fair and respectful treatment on a daily basis.

Emphasis mine

@Wipqozn I think it depends on whether you're only looking at the large companies or also at many of the smaller companies. I'd say in large and well-known companies, it's rare, but it might be more frequent at smaller companies

12:39 PM

Aaaand @Wipqozn just posted it.

The good news is that /r/leagueoflegends seems to be not be a bunch of shitheads about it this time.

The comments on the thread where this was posted seem to be much better than on the Kotaku thread.

@Yuuki Sounds reasonable in this time of #metoo and other discrimination hot topics

Like, it's the only correct response to reports that your favorite game developer is a hotbed of sexism, racism and homophobia

@Ave no borders no governments :flag_black: :flag_red:

@Nzall Well, now we know why LoL's anti-toxicity system is terrible.

Can't play League before/after work and during lunch if you're banned from your own game.

Contrary to popular opinion, The U.S. is preparing for climate change. That's what increased surveillance and border militarization are for.

Tweeted by SydneyAzari on August 8, 2018 at 6:49 AM

fuck

dammit

@Yuuki Pretty much my thinking. The company doesn't see a problem with their community because they're part of the problem.

2:18 PM

Chinese message intruded building-wide intercom system used for emergencies at Weather Service federal center Wednesday. The intercom message, translated from Chinese, said “you have a package from Amazon at the Chinese Embassy, press 1 for more details": https://wapo.st/2vS7xae

Tweeted by capitalweather on August 9, 2018 at 2:10 PM

:|

Well, I guess that's one way to do counter-intelligence.

This is a common recent phone spam but lol @ it somehow being routed into the PA system

That's a weird-ass phone spam.

I think it's phishing for personal details but yeah, since the likelihood of getting someone who speaks Mandarin is significantly less than someone who doesn't here I honestly don't get it

Latest on @latimes investigation —- An L.A. sheriff's deputy faked evidence. Here's how his misconduct was kept secret in court for years http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-brady-list-secrecy-court-20180809-htmlstory.html @corinaknoll @bposton @mayalau @jackfleonard

Tweeted by shelbygrad on August 9, 2018 at 1:48 PM

Cops, man

2:25 PM

Like I've gotten a similar call a few times and it's just like "mmm nope"

Wait is McDonnell the one up for reelection against the dude the union favours presumably because he agreed to not tell on them?

Also unclear why the appellate court would agree it's okay to not disclose this, like just because of their contract or something? "lol due process"

what the fuck cincinnati mayor used to be an ISO guy?

@JohnCranley what happen that turned you into gestures broadly at city hall

2:42 PM

VA SEN poll (VCU/Wilder School): Tim Kaine 49, Corey Stewart 23, Matt Waters (L) 5. https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/kaine-leads-stewart-by-points-in-poll-from-vcu-s/article_14db3dd3-10f0-5585-ae3d-5e99d9a65c58.html

Tweeted by PoliticsReid on August 9, 2018 at 2:12 PM

Rudy Giuliani told Axios there are two topics the president's lawyers want to rule out for a Mueller interview. 1. Why Trump fired James Comey. 2. What Trump said to Comey about the investigation of Michael Flynn. https://www.axios.com/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-robert-mueller-investigation-c99e726f-c889-421e-a694-72206a1618b9.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

Tweeted by axios on August 9, 2018 at 11:20 AM

"Look we definitely don't want you to ask about how the President didn't obstruct justice because uhhh he'd have to lie?"

Just amazing

EXCLUSIVE: Pentagon To Start Creating Space Force — Even Before Congress Approves It https://www.defenseone.com/politics/2018/07/pentagon-create-space-force/150157/

Tweeted by MarcusReports on July 31, 2018 at 4:14 AM

Ah, good. It's important that not only do we do this stupid thing but we also do it as improperly as possible

@TimStone yeah that sounds right

@TimStone courts are fash too

I for one think it's really cool and good that this shit just always gets blank checks

because you know why not

@TimStone "Look, you need to fund this agency that we created before you gave us approval for creating a new agency."

Someone tell him that space force will study climate change and this whole thing will be over before it starts

Microsoft’s undersea data center now has a webcam so you can watch fish swimming past 27.6 petabytes of storage https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/8/9/17669936/microsoft-undersea-datacenter-webcam?utm_campaign=tomwarren&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Tweeted by tomwarren on August 9, 2018 at 9:57 AM

2

So. Many. Fish. Puns

3:05 PM

@TimStone <3

Is this Tom guy seeing anyone?

@TimStone these are so much better than the bear cams because the fish actually show up

> any fin is possible

after writing this piece, royson was called to the carpet by his own newspaper's management, who felt targeted by his broader media criticism. so then royson courageously wrote about the star going after him instead of mayor ford https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/07/03/contempt_of_rob_fords_media_manipulation_runs_deep_james.html

Tweeted by DesmondCole on August 9, 2018 at 3:05 PM in reply to DesmondCole

3:24 PM

@TimStone well that's mighty suspicious

7 years old but worth the reminder since US continues to struggle with invasive species:

Post 9/11 focus on terrorism reduced focus on invasive pests, allowed billions in damages

3:41 PM

> At the time, hundreds of agricultural scientists responsible for stopping invasive species at the border were reassigned to anti-terrorism duties in the newly formed Homeland Security Department

huh?

What were agricultural scientists doing against human terrorism?

They're supposed to be doing that job but also ag/bio-terrorism

Hmm... yeah, I guess bio-terrorism makes sense.

@GodEmperorDune oops this is the wrong mayor ford

BREAKING: Vice President Pence announces plans for new, separate US Space Force as 6th military service by 2020.

Tweeted by AP on August 9, 2018 at 3:46 PM

Anything to get other news out of the spotlight, I guess.

a year and change seems pretty quick for setting up an entire new branch of the military

also iirc there is a non-militarization of space treaty that this breaks

3:52 PM

I mean, if all this does is move all space-related stuff that the Air Force does to a new branch, I don't think it violates militarization of space.

ah so a pointless reorg to please the person in charge... nice use of taxpayer money

Exactly what is the point of this Space Force?

Inb4 aliens

SPACE FORCE

No one knows what the actual intention is so the goal of Space Force is Space Force

its a thing to improve trump's e-peen

> DoD will usher in a new age of space technology and field new systems in order to deter, and if necessary degrade, deny, disrupt, destroy and manipulate adversary capabilities to protect U.S. interests, assets and way of life…This new age will unlock growth in the U.S. industrial base, expand the commercial space economy and strengthen partnerships with our allies

But yeah it basically just seems to cut out part of the Air Force's responsibilities and slaps SPACE FORCE on them

Space Force

4:03 PM

@GodEmperorDune "thing to improve Trump's e-peen" Not sure how it took us more than 1 comment to get to the heart of the matter

Can you win in a system set up to protect police officers?http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-brady-list-secrecy/ https://t.co/rnXib9gVYj

Tweeted by LATimesGraphics on August 9, 2018 at 3:49 PM

14 mins ago, by Yuuki

Anything to get other news out of the spotlight, I guess.

no

I mean...

@Yuuki This is true too.

@Unionhawk You forgot "Next question"

4:08 PM

Space Force all the way!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on August 9, 2018 at 4:03 PM

He's so happy, SPACE FORCE

SCOOP: Donald Trump just used the fine print of an IRS rule to give a massive new tax cut to bankers https://splinternews.com/the-trump-administration-just-found-a-new-way-to-hand-b-1828208943

Tweeted by davidsirota on August 9, 2018 at 1:14 PM

@thatguyinvox how do you propose we pay for this please outline your plan in detail

@GodEmperorDune Hey now that's not fair, you shouldn't give Trump credit for the fine print the literal banking lobbyists wrote

> the Treasury Department, headed by former banker Steve Mnuchin, issued the proposed rule whose fine print asserts that “financial services” actually do not include banking.

lolwut

banking is like the OG original financial service

Well, I guess it and lending.

4:14 PM

Love to unsustainably cap the number of Uber/Lyft drivers rather than mandate the companies pay minimum wage and benefits instead

honestly you have to fight these companies dirty

If you mandate they follow existing laws, the companies themselves will take care of the capping.

Since they can't afford it any other way

because they always pull the "well technically they're all self employed" line

But if you just cap the driver numbers, then they'll just lie or people will drive anyway, etc.

they just lie anyway by saying their drivers are self employed

4:16 PM

Now we're just criminalizing people trying to make a living rather than getting them the compensation they need.

honestly

Yes but that's not some immutable condition of the universe.

Just make a new law saying they're employees instead.

I dunno, it's pretty hard-baked into Uber and Lyft's entire business model

Charge Uber and Lyft road taxes or something

@Unionhawk So what?

I don't understand where you're coming from yet.

run a rideshare service at a loss on gallons of VC to destroy taxi unions

4:18 PM

"We have time to make a law, but let's make a shitty one instead of a cause-addressing one because..."

@Unionhawk Lyft might make it that far but Uber will be on deathwatch soon enough. They really needed self-driving cars and they're not going to get them.

While I think mandating drivers get paid is good, I don't think it'll really force these guys hand at anything other than that

Since afaik they're both wholly unprofitable enterprises right now

but they have a healthy VC transfusion going all the time

I'm much less skeptical of the worth of actual legal requirements on the companies and much more skeptical than we'll continue to see as much investment in the companies as we have in the past.

What investors were really investing in were self-driving taxis, but now Uber is critically behind.

Lyft is in better shape because they've gone the partnership route, not the self-development route.

Uber's cash on hand declined 15% last year even after a major bailout investment - I'll stick with my incoming deathwatch prediction.

Could have been sooner if Google hadn't settled with them, but nothing can be done about that now.

I wish Google had bled them dry.

@puzzlepiece87 eh we still got "LAZER IS THE SAUCE" out of that

Ah look it's the White House mailer

> The startling facts about America’s prison system

Well that's slightly unexpec...ah Jared's on the case

is the fact that not enough profit is being made from it

4:31 PM

@TimStone are we gonna outsource prisons to the middle east? is that the peace plan?

We're mostly going to make general statements so when Jared does nothing we can say mission accomplished but it kind of sounds like the Koch pet project at quick glance

Azure is threatening to shut down Gab if they don't remove two posts that are literally about farming Jewish people for torture and ritual killing

@TimStone tbh i'm surprised there's not some sort of "put everyone to death so they can't do more crimes" thing in there

meanwhile Gab has 48 hours to delete 2 posts before Azure pulls hosting, to which I say, lol

@TimStone ... wtf

... wtf

maybe the white supremacists will make their own cloud provider called "ivory" or some shit

4:46 PM

Oh, I think we missed this yesterday?

BREAKING: Federal court issues landmark ruling that the Constitution doesn't allow unjustified cross-border shootings. It rejected arguments that @CBP can't be subject to liability for its actions at the border after an agent killed 16yo Jose Antonio through the US-Mexico fence.

Tweeted by ACLU on August 7, 2018 at 5:31 PM

I'm not sure how much work "unjustified" does here without reading the ruling but

That feels like a lower standard than "reasonable" or "necessary" to me

unless that's a paraphrase

and it's actually closer to the "reasonable" standard of regular cops shooting people

Ah okay, so the issue at hand was a bit different

Incidentally, CA state assembly bill 931 is currently in process to change that standard to "necessary"

Basically they had already gotten through the "No you can't just have shot him" part to the "Well it doesn't matter what I wasn't allowed to do because he was in Mexico lol" part

And the court ruled you can't just hand-wave away the constitutional obligations because you shot through the fence into another country

The government's position was that "the cross-border nature of the shooting implicates foreign policy"

And the court was like "No that's dumb as hell"

@TimStone I didn't think the Constitution allowed for cross-border shootings period.

Namely because the Constitution doesn't really govern other countries.

4:55 PM

So unjustified here likely literally means "we don't have to have a reason lol" "yes you do you idiots"

and a punt on what qualifies as a good reason

@Unionhawk hell yeah

(likely "reasonable")

"it's reasonable to assume that i, as a cop, am fash"

Court orders Trump EPA to ban pesticide linked to neurological disorders http://hill.cm/pVBThdE

Tweeted by thehill on August 9, 2018 at 4:55 PM

lol you will be surprised to learn Pruitt was in fact pro-neurological disorder

@TimStone Neurological disorders help weed the weak from the rich (plus like a gajillion tons of '/s').

4:58 PM

i mean environmental racism is a thing, not surprising that pruitt would want to encourage it

@GodEmperorDune Delete Your Account had a good interview with an organizer about 931 recently

deleteyouraccount.libsyn.com/unreasonable

O'Connor edges closer as Ohio finds more votes they forgot to count 🤷

A convenience-store clerk in Santa Fe, New Mexico, reportedly called the police on a 22-year-old college student because he was "arrogant" and "black" https://thebea.st/2McGtg4

Tweeted by thedailybeast on August 9, 2018 at 10:45 AM

user15026

Okay, beyond everything else, WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THESE ARE LEGITIMATE REASONS TO CALL TEH COPS

@Ash it's qwhite the mystery

user15026

5:14 PM

Indeed.

6:45 PM

> “At the end of the day, the Democratic Party was not providing mentorship or development,” she says. “The dynamic about finding the next generation of leaders was not happening in our party.”

Wave of progressive candidates could reshape the Democratic party

Feds allege a 33-year-old guy in Massachusetts tweeted an offer to pay someone to "kill[] an ice agent" and are charging him with "Use of Interstate and Foreign Commerce to Transmit a Threat to Injure Another Person" in an indictment unsealed today. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4704876-USA-v-Ziobrowski-Indictment.html

Tweeted by chrisgeidner on August 9, 2018 at 6:33 PM

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What is wrong with people? How does anyone think it's OK to literally offer money for someone to commit murder?

7:02 PM

What did you all think about Discord selling games?

Judge forced to apologize following prejudicial behavior against Mueller prosecutors

@TimStone that doesn't seem like a threat, that's more of a conspiracy isn't it?

i have a friend that works for amazon and he showed us the currency that they give to their workers for the on-site amazon store

Tweeted by PerhapsBees on August 9, 2018 at 12:12 AM

> "A lot of times we exceed goals but our productivity rate is not high enough to get a full bonus which doesn't make sense," the worker said. "We meet and exceed our goals constantly and as a reward we get a 'congratulations' or 'swag bucks,' which is basically Monopoly money that we can use in the Swag Store [which sells Amazon merchandise]."

hell yeah

cool

awesome

this sucks

'I warned him': Gun-toting grandma shoots man exposing himself https://buff.ly/2ARve8b

Tweeted by wis10 on August 8, 2018 at 2:00 PM

(headline is slightly inaccurate, the guy was rubbing one out to said grandma while on grandma's doorstep)

this whole story is very texas, so congrats @Yuuki

@murgatroid99 I mean I agree but I also think it's absurd the government takes "kill random ICE agent for money I don't even commit to having" seriously but not "Kill all the Jews, because we hate them" and most targeted individual threats

@GodEmperorDune :|

@Unionhawk Buffalo?

7:12 PM

, New York

BREAKING: Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach's lead in GOP governor primary cut in half after vote mistake discovered.

Tweeted by AP on August 9, 2018 at 6:40 PM

@TimStone hue

I'm sure the secretary of state will get to the bottom of any other inconsistencies

rereads tweet Ah

he's still on the case too because he's literally not required to be off it

lol

There's only a 91 vote gap between them

The UK is basically getting 'Proof of Collusion: The Movie' a month early like it's Star Wars. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/09/revealed-detail-of-exclusive-russian-deal-offered-to-arron-banks-in-brexit-run-up?CMP=share_btn_tw

Tweeted by Zeddary on August 9, 2018 at 7:25 PM

7:28 PM

god dammit a local paper did an extremely bad thing and now we have to try and damage control their fuck-up

I have no idea how we're going to clean this up

jesus christ

@TimStone I think the tweet in question is particularly bad because it's not just encouraging violence, but actually directly incentivizing it by offering money

I think it's terrible but glib enough not to be an automatic substantiated threat

Like the multitude "I will come to your house and kill you and your family" tweets that happen all the time seem more likely to actually happen than someone thinking the dude who admits to not even having the money and provides no concrete way of providing it actually anticipates someone following through for a bounty

Obviously the solution is to just, you know, not post that stuff to begin with, but I do think the government is being awfully selective in its follow-through here

status-bydesign

I think being selective about prosecutions is meh, sure, fair enough

but it is interesting to see the selection in the less severe punishment of a 12 hour lock starting from when you delete this thing

well, it's not actually that interesting it's pretty simple to figure out

I don't know where I'm going with this ignore me I'm too busy being mad at a local reporter

7:51 PM

Trump campaign asks supporters to vote for the new Space Force logo

Tweeted by kasie on August 9, 2018 at 7:44 PM

lol

SPACE FORCE

But also the last one is best because it has an automatic expiration

I mean technically we're already on Mars so it's done out of the gate but

He also clearly thinks Space Force is NASA with Guns

Collins used campaign funds to pay for legal services as all the finest grifters do

"I can't drop out of the race I got bills to pay!"

Asked if Melania Trump's parents had obtained citizenship through “chain migration,” their lawyer said, “I suppose." https://nyti.ms/2MbfWj4

Tweeted by amyvirshup on August 9, 2018 at 7:58 PM

roasted

they're finished now

by your logic mr president, sir, respectfully,

8:15 PM

NBC News: Judge orders plane carrying deported mother and child turned around, blocks more removals https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/judge-orders-plane-carrying-deported-mother-child-turned-around-blocks-n899311

Tweeted by rickwtyler on August 9, 2018 at 8:14 PM

In a now-deleted tweet, Virginia Republican Senate candidate Corey Stewart called Michigan Democratic governor candidate Abdul El-Sayed, who's Muslim, an "ISIS commie." This has gotten no major media attention as far as I can tell. https://thinkprogress.org/corey-stewart-attacks-muslim-candidate-1a9399acee3d/

Tweeted by ddale8 on August 9, 2018 at 8:07 PM

Those classic communists, ISIS

@TimStone considering contempt starting with the AG if he pulls this again

@TimStone I can only assume that "commie=bad" is the full extent of how they understand the term

usually

Sometimes the analysis goes as far as "communism is when you advocate for a mild social democracy,"

but that's about it

@murgatroid99 considering the massive propaganda campaign that went on for all of the Cold War then this is definitely true

@murgatroid99 Pretty much, yeah

8:28 PM

"At 'America First Energy Conference', solar power is dumb, climate change is fake" - reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange/…

> These are among the messages that flowed from the America First Energy Conference in New Orleans this week, hosted by some of the country’s most vocal climate change doubters - and attended by a handful of Trump administration officials.

Meanwhile, people are literally dying as a direct result of the warming climate

@TimStone these are the best graphic designs the govt has?

tbf all other government logos

yeah but those were designed decades ago

8:48 PM

oh hey it turns out we never signed the treaty preventing militarization of space. thanks bush.

it's called the "2006 Space Preservation Treaty" and wikipedia redirects it to a different treaty

How can you preserve space if you don't protect it with guns taps head

Twitter says Infowars hasn't 'violated our rules.' It looks like that's not the case https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/09/media/twitter-infowars-alex-jones/index.html

Tweeted by BruceBartlett on August 9, 2018 at 8:49 PM

wtg jack

user15026

@GodEmperorDune I love that they pulled reciepts

yep, twitter was dumb not to check first

it's almost like twitter moderation is mostly made up

9:05 PM

lol they deleted all of the cited content

Weird because if anyone else had that much removed they'd certainly be banned!

blue check btw

@TimStone Just seeing this now, and it's not surprising at all

I'm sure all these people voted for Trump. There's a large portion of the right, at least in America, that is constantly voting against their own interests. It's completely baffling.

because the democrats don't meaningfully represent their interests

@Wipqozn I think it's a variety of things. Part of it is the steady diet of conservative propaganda they've been getting from Fox News for decades. Part of it is a general opposition to social programs because they believe that only other people will benefit from them. Part of it is bigotry and fear outweighing self-interest.

9:20 PM

@murgatroid99 I feel like no.1 is the largest thing, since it just further reinforces 2 and 3.

Also, I think there is a big culture of individuality particularly in rural areas that lean red, and that can contribute both to feelings of "I don't want other people to benefit from my money" and "I don't need any help from the government because I'm not a lazy freeloader"

That is also reinforced by Fox News with the whole "portraying welfare recipients as lazy freeloaders" thing

Honestly the amount of damage Fox News has done in the US is staggering. It's essentially just one giant propaganda machine for the worst parts of the right.

user15026

@murgatroid99 I see that somewhat in teh rural areas here too

user15026

That idea of "why would I pay to help anyone else, when I am struggling" or "I worked for my money, so should everyone, no one will help you but yourself"

9:47 PM

This indirectly reminds me that we have a whole culture around getting a big tax refund when you can literally just change your exemptions so less is taken out of your paychecks to begin with. I suspect what you get out is often not mentally reconciled with what you perceive to have put in

i'd like one of those systems that break down what each part of your tax witholdings are paying for (based on previous year budgets or w/e) right there on the paycheck