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12:20 AM
@Yuuki It's just crazy how people get angry over folks expressing the view "I'd like to not be treated like shit but so far have been"
Three wealthy Mar-a-Lago members (who are *not government employees*) are issuing guidance at the VA, which VA workers treat like commands. Stunning, insane piece from @iarnsdorf. https://www.propublica.org/article/ike-perlmutter-bruce-moskowitz-marc-sherman-shadow-rulers-of-the-va
 
Dead man's name appears on petition gathered by GOP lawmaker's team to back independent candidate http://hill.cm/FBWd2gf
 
Awww yeah that's the good stuff Jack is Online defending not banning Alex Jones from Twitter
 
@Memor-X Honestly I'm all in favour of their being regulations around news intended to enforce honesty and integrity, and I'm pretty sure Canada actually has laws around this. However, let's be honest... that's not at all what's going on with this poll, or what Trump would do if given such power.
Considering Fox News is the news outlet of choice for republican voters then these folks are obviously incapable of properly accessing a news source
But Trump and his cult will continue on none the less
 
.@chrislhayes asks Cuomo about "abolish ICE." Cuomo's response, in part: "Well look what I think has happened is the president has politicized ICE...We don't want what we have in ICE which is a politicized police force." He doesn't join the "abolish ICE" crowd, though.
More like polish ice
 
12:37 AM
@Wipqozn oh but ofcause. enforcing ethics in news and journalism is something we'd all want but that's not what Trump wants unless said ethics is "complementing him of everything he does and never saying a bad thing about him"
 
@Memor-X yeah he just wants a propaganda machine
He's openly praised North Korea for christs sake, the mains dream is to become a dictator
 
@TimStone what even dafuq
this admin is pioneering new kinds of scandals
 
@TimStone the cops are apolitical nods
 
12:57 AM
@GodEmperorDune can't wait to play that classic Mar-a-lago party game Russian Roulette But With Drone Strikes
 
1:21 AM
Ughhhh Ohio special is close
 
An 11 year old child was tased by @CincyPD for leaving the grocery store with a backpack full of food. Children should not brutalized over alleged petty theft. This is unacceptable no matter what the circumstances. Hunger is not a crime. https://www.wlwt.com/article/taser-used-on-11-year-old-who-stole-food-cincinnati-police-say/22666405
 
1:33 AM
Even if they wanted to stop her from stealing groceries that bad like, the police couldn't catch an 11 year old without a taser? 🤔
C'mon now
@TimStone His take is that if they deplatform Alex Jones then how will reporters directly refute his crap at the source and 1) it doesn't work like that, that's the whole grift 2) if you don't let him spread the crap to begin with then no one has to do the cleaning up
If he doesn't want to suspend Jones then fine, his hellsite, but just admit it's because you don't really care what he's doing
Projection: Gretchen Whitmer (D) wins Dem primary for #MIGOV, defeating Abdul El-Sayed (D).
Hmm Balderson pulls ahead with 89% of the vote
Not that it matters so much because they get to do this all again in November lol special elections
jfc Kobach is winning in Kansas
 
1:53 AM
overall just a really good day
in elections
 
I mean the Ohio race is super bad for the GOP even if they win because it shouldn't be this close
Kobach winning against the incumbent Republican is dumb as hell though
Kobach winning against anyone is dumb as hell
Green candidate likely going to get flayed alive though on account of having the vote margin
JUST IN: McCaskill, Hawley easily win Missouri primaries http://hill.cm/gKmeU1o
lol I still don't understand where they got this graphic from
But I applaud their continued inexplicable use of it
lmao QAnon: Too insane even for Flynn Jr.
 
2:12 AM
Ron Estes won. Also Ron Estes lost (a throwback to this earlier piece)
(the incumbent Ron Estes won)
@TimStone lol people already getting angry at him and it's absurd
There we go, looks like Balderson will end up winning by a little under a point, 1.7k votes give or take the split in the remaining handful of districts
Developing: In Missouri, opponents of right-to-work hold hefty advantage as vote tallies roll in. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/right-to-work-opponents-hold-early-advantage-as-precincts-begin/article_d75fc640-45e0-5ecc-93c9-91cecca36113.html,
 
2:39 AM
@TimStone so what is Proposition A? all i see is "right to work" but not what i mean aside from stuff about making jobs but unions may be against it?
 
Right-to-work lets you not pay dues into a union that is effectively negotiating on your behalf. There's a lot of nuance around that but from the business side of things the intention is to kill unions by underfunding them
@TimStone Called for No
 
@TimStone ok cool at least there's that
@Memor-X they spin it as some "well, shouldn't you have the RIGHT to not be in a union" "ok sure I guess" when in reality the framing is "shouldn't you have the RIGHT to be represented by a labor union without paying" "uh"
it's a total scam and another instance of the right controlling messanging super effectively
 
Alright, Ohio special in 100% now, Balderson wins by 1766 votes, or 0.9%, absent provisional ballots I think
Green candidate didn't quite span the gap, only 0.6% of the vote
 
damn you jill stein
 
A win in November isn't impossible, but Dems have odds better than this race in a number of other districts so the fact that it's even close isn't a bad sign
DON'T LOOK NOW: But with about 60% of the precincts reporting in St. Louis County, Ferguson council member Wesley Bell is beating Bob McCulloch, who handled the Darren Wilson-Mike Brown investigation. We published my talk with Bell about criminal justice reform this morning https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1026868108890439687
He's up 6 points, even
 
2:54 AM
Also, related, Sinclair showed the clearly just some think tank interns rallying for Janus as a "look there is support for our agenda I mean this policy position that we are definitely not rooting for"
since the right to work org is suing SEIU CA
to reclaim fair share fees that their nonmembers were forced to pay in order to receive representation and a contract
like the union is required to do for all employees
 
Fox News host: How could Trump testify to Mueller knowing he can't lie? http://hill.cm/COdZh6E
> During Fox News’s “Outnumbered” on Monday, McDowell said that Mueller is “setting a trap” for the president.

“How in the world could he ever cooperate and sit down with Mueller for an interview knowing that if you tell one lie to Bob Mueller, he will move to file charges?” she said.
Democratic strategist and Fox News contributor Jessica Tarlov responded, saying: “He could not tell a lie, that’s always an option here.”
 
lmao
 
my god the woman's a genius! just not lie, how could it be that simple
 
Not even like "make a mistake" or something, straight up admit that he'll probably go ahead and lie
 
@TimStone yeh there's that too
 
3:09 AM
This is also the first right to work repeal by voters which is the projected winner
 
@TimStone :(
@Unionhawk hell yeah
 
thanks obama
 
more like the right for the kochs to get into the sea
@TimStone my timeline is a blur of this and some elon did weed thing
(blamed on grimes, naturally)
 
@GodEmperorDune (of relevance)
 
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
 
3:20 AM
@TimStone Oh shit I think he's toast
Wesley Bell holds an almost 10 point lead with nearly 90% in
 
hell yeah
in other good news, trump is losing his hollywood star, expect angry twetes tomorrow
 
Is that official? Chamber of commerce has final say last I heard
 
@Unionhawk Laaaame
Yeah, looks like they'll refuse to do it like they refused to remove Cosby's
 
booooo
@TimStone argh inb4d
 
It's a historical landmark and whenever they add a star it becomes a fabric of the landmark!!!
I mean it's of no consequence but I do feel like he'd be exceptionally mad and that'd be funny
 
3:28 AM
It'd be a weird exception
Especially considering cosbey is up, spacey is up, reagan is
Spacey is right next to trump even
 
Oh is he? Can someone just destroy both next time?
I mean no vandalism is bad right FBI? nods
 
daaaaaaaaaang i just saw a twete with @TimStone correcting a blue
 
lol, was more of an update than a correction
Ah crap Kobach regained the lead
 
so the ohio race is too close to call even though 100% of precincts reporting? what else are they waiting for?
 
Provisional ballots
Then a recount if it's within half a point
 
3:40 AM
ahhhhh
i am on the green party done goofd bandwagon now
 
It seems unlikely the results will change but if it takes long enough it'll be like not even having the election at all, lol
Since they're just gonna go again right in November
 
I mean Alabama was right to change the special election law on that front
It's kind of dumb as hell to do an election three months before redoing that same election
 
this one neat trick will save you millions on political operatives
 
3:57 AM
Trump takes credit for Ohio Republican’s “great win” in race that hasn’t been called yet http://hill.cm/7QbDpWv
i'd laugh if this ends up like marmite giving moral support
 
I'm surprised he was able to fit that many excuses into one tweet
 
meanwhile, in Alex Jones getting the Boot
Twitter chief defends not booting Infowars http://bit.ly/2vp2qi2
> "We know that's hard for many, but the reason is simple: he hasn't violated our rules. We'll enforce if he does."
 
@Memor-X nah, they won't
 
4:21 AM
I watched every episode of INSATIABLE and it was a fat-shaming mess. I have not been so uncomfortable and upset watching a show in a very long time. https://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/insatiable-fat-shaming?utm_term=.nsdaX203NP#.fj7zPeGKY3
if only someone had warned netflix not to release this after the trailer dropped
(pretty much every fat activist on twitter and other social media did this)
 
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4:44 AM
@GodEmperorDune I saw this tweet and I can't even make myself read the thread because I know it will make my heart hurt
 
@Ash yeah it is BAD
 
user15026
I figured it was going to be awful. I am staying faaaaaar away.
 
tl:dr; the creators of the show seemed to have had good intentions but completely bungled it
> Their aim is a noble one. But setting aside the fact that a much more subversive and interesting way to deconstruct the myth that thinness = happiness would be to tell the story of a girl who – get this – stays fat and is also happy, Insatiable does not actually achieve what it sets out to do.
 
5:37 AM
@GodEmperorDune i thought the aim of Insatiable was that revenge is self-destructive
i havn't seen it but i understand that it's about a girl who was fat and gets bullied, gets into an accident which required her mouth wired shut which in turn ends up making her thin, then she goes on a path of revenge against her tormentors eventually escalating her actions
no reported reason, but we can have a guess why
> Chinese authorities have been blocking images of Pooh on social media since last year, after the AA Milne bear became a symbol of political dissent.

It's after the Chinese leader Xi Jinping has been compared to the bear.
 
 
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9:08 AM
@Memor-X Man, maybe that's a sign that perhaps your rules are wrong? Maybe?
But I think the problem is that the rules are fine, according to jack
 
10:08 AM
@fredley the amount of sites totally okay with hate speech is just gross
I totally understand it's because they're all from America, but Jesus
 
 
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11:13 AM
United Nations requests Saudi man's deportation from Canada be stopped
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/united-nations-stops-deportation-to-saudi-arabia-1.4777227
Shared via the CBC News Android App
 
 
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1:29 PM
@TimStone The boss of Marvel Entertainment is secretly running the VA is not something I would have ever expected to read.
 
1:52 PM
@MadScientist Oh, Perlmutter.
Yeah, of course he's involved with terrible shit because Perlmutter is a terrible human being.
 
2:19 PM
Uhh so Kobach has seemingly won…by 191 votes?
 
damn green party
 
JUST IN: New York Republican congressman Chris Collins has been indicted on insider trading charges https://cnn.it/2KC0w2s
The SEC helpfully made a chart for its related complaint. https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2018/comp-pr2018-151.pdf
lol
 
So do we know how that special election in OH turned out?
Last I heard, the Reds were winning, but the provisional votes haven't been counted yet
 
point of order: the Reds should not be used to refer to republicans, only the baseball team or communists
(is that a valid point of order someone who is good at parliament please help me I don't know roberts rules that well)
(heck to robert and his rules)
 
Robert can't tell me how to live my life
@Nzall That's correct, it seems unlikely to close the gap, but I'm not sure when the results will be available
Then they have to do a whole new election in November anyway, so
@TimStone lol Collins was on Trump's transition team, why not
looooool if Kansas comes to a full canvass of votes Kobach himself would be in charge, unless he recuses
What nonsense
I see that Rep. Chris Collins's defense is that, as an Innate board member, the company's largest stockholder, and a Member of Congress (who was already under investigation for Innate), he personally didn't sell any of his stock. Just his son, who sold 1.4 million shares. Ah.
 
2:53 PM
@TimStone I'm in Indivisible St. Louis, we canvassed for him, yay Wesley Bell!
 
Nice!
Breaking: ICE crashed a van full of eight mothers separated from their children in Texas, then outright denied it happened for three weeks... Until we got the police report and interviewed four passengers. https://www.texasobserver.org/ice-crashed-a-van-full-of-separated-mothers-then-denied-it-ever-happened/
 
3:05 PM
Progressives got half of the things I voted for yesterday, not exciting but not bad.
Also, feel free to LOL at my county
We just re-elected in a D primary, 50.5 - 49.5%, the county executive who has so thoroughly pissed everyone off that every other county council member votes against everything he does.
All the votes on issues he brings forward are defeated 6-1
So yes, please give us more of that for some reason.
Not to mention that he has major ethics scandals being investigated by DoJ right now
Not that his competitor was great shakes either, his competitor says that the thing to make St. Louis great again is to give professional sports teams hundreds of millions of dollars to stay in St. Louis, which, buddy,,,
 
oh hell yeah the conyers primary went to not a conyers son (and to a DSA member)
(if elected november?) she will be the first muslim woman and first palistinian woman to serve in congress
(I think that was a primary)
that rules
 
That's great @Unionhawk !
Congrats!
 
 
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5:04 PM
I come bearing the spicy takes
The Ocasio-Cortez wing of the Democratic Party thinks its policies are the path to victory in red states. Last night’s results suggest otherwise, writes @billscher: https://politi.co/2OUlDQX
El-Sayed honestly did pretty well for someone who hasn't even run before, so 🤷
> But Davids exhibited a bit too much of an incrementalist streak for some progressives, arguing that single-payer health insurance is not realistic in the short term and supporting free community college instead of promising to make all college debt-free
And that's not even really a comment about the policies themselves, but about selling a plan
 
"the number of uninsured people should be 0 not 20 something million" "I can give you 10 something million but that's as low as I can go"
"actually all of those people like being at risk of having to say "don't call an ambulance I don't want to go deep in debt""
imagine being opposed to universal healthcare in 2018
 
> Davids said that conversations on health care policy need to start with the belief that health care is a human right. But while she supports a single payer system in concept, she said that smaller improvements to health care access are more realistic policy goals right now with President Donald Trump in office.
 
like what
 
I mean it doesn't matter, I think it's stupid to pick on her because that's pretty realistic?
Trump's not going to sign shit the Democrats themselves come up with
 
He's not going to sign incremental improvements either
single payer is an incremental improvement, yet it is a full increment
 
5:15 PM
Eh, I just don't think it's reasonable to assume that her being voted in is a refutation of the position, it's just a more realistic promise
Like she's only in office for two years, under Trump. Anyone promising the moon in that environment cannot deliver
So I think the article is wrong to say she's somehow refuting the policies?
Like she's anti-gun, healthcare is a right, affordable higher education, all in Kansas
"Ah but she didn't hype it up to 10!!" seems like an absurd point the article tries to make
 
I'm always going to be skeptical of 1) democrats broadly speaking 2) politicians as a superset of #1 3) anyone who says "theoretically I'm for this thing but we're not there, maybe someday"
like at a certain point you're either on board or you're not, regardless of what you think you can do with the freakin cheeto in office
 
So you agree with the article that people are rejecting the platform then, or?
 
I'm skeptical of candidates half-embracing the platform
which is what this feels like
Either the reforms she presents later will be towards the still reformist goal of single payer and in that case sure, or it's just a cop out, and it's hard to tell which every time
 
Possibly. I just think the article's point is wrong
This is a swing seat, they could have picked the centrist techbro but did not
 
oh, well then, what
how is "we probably can't do it now but like I'd like to in unspecified timeline" a rejection compared to "centrist techbro"
what
 
5:29 PM
It was also a six-way race and Welder only lost by < four points
37.3 to 33.9
lol hilarious bit from this CNBC article
> Yoder targeted Welder's progressive campaign in an ad Friday. In it, a narrator cheerfully touts Welder's political agenda, calling him a "community organizer and "friend of Barack Obama" who wants to raise the minimum wage to $15, wipe out tax breaks for big business and make college free.
> Only in the last 10 seconds of the ad does it become clear that it's an anti-Welder spot. The narrator finishes: "We don't need more Obama-Sanders progressives. Brent Welder: too progressive for Kansas."
Good ol' Joe Ricketts
Administration just cut 40 jobs at the Office of Financial Research
Pompeo: Reduce your nuclear warheads by 60 to 70 percent. North Korea: No. https://www.vox.com/2018/8/8/17663746/pompeo-north-korea-nuclear-60-70?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
COMPLETE AND INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIABLE DENUCLEARIZATION
 
@TimStone And you just know there are people who listened to the whole thing thinking it sounded good and then got to the end and went "Oh, he's a progressive? Nevermind"
 
@TimStone lol the classic socialist barrack obama
(and to be fair the classic socialist bernie sanders but)
 
It's absurd but they were also trying to coax Dems into voting for him because they think he's the easiest candidate to beat in the general so maybe they thought "Obama would like him" would help even if it was ridiculous
 
5:52 PM
the full video of Jealous getting the "socialist" question is legit hilarious -- you need the 90 seconds of well-put exegesis on why he's not a socialist to set up the punchline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJquWpcqF0I
 
(ben jealous is not endorsed by DSA fortunately)
(fortunately as in oh god I'm sure north star would love to endorse him lol)
(roll my eyes)
 
I thought the punchline was the part where he identifies as a VC but it was not
Trump’s lawyers have rejected Mueller's latest terms for an interview in the Russia investigation and are seeking a narrower scope, NYT reports. Source tells NYT that Trump's lawyers don't want him answering questions about whether he obstructed justice. https://nyti.ms/2MhDJxI
 
@Unionhawk If you feel like sparing me some Googling, where do Jealous and DSA differ? I'm believe you, I'm interested in knowing more.
 
tbh you can just watch the video in that tweet, lol
 
probably socialism
 
5:58 PM
(language warning though)
Former city police chief claims role in Venezuela drone attack. Super scoop by @brianpablo10 & @VargasCarlosH https://reut.rs/2MqvtIE
Lending company threatens to take back dog after saying woman was only leasing it - https://buff.ly/2vt9pXv
wat @ all aspects of that story
$1500 for a dog?
> The couple said when they went to Shake A Paw they had to fill out paperwork for Wags Lending
Wags Lending?
Repossessing a dog?
Ahhh here it is, inject it into my veins
Sec. of State @KrisKobach1787 says he does not need to recuse himself from a recount because the individual county leaders oversee recounts. @41actionnews #ksleg #ksgov
 
I don't know what metro DC's endorsement rules are but generally (the only exception I have ever seen has been NYC's, and therefore national's, endorsement of Cynthia Nixon) you have to be a member to be considered
practically speaking all this means is you have to be just $60 and willing to be called a member invested in DSA
 
Wildfires are burning hotter and more intense due to drier and hotter conditions and due to a buildup of dead and dying timber. Read my piece in @USATODAY about what we can and are doing to help fight and prevent these fires from growing out of control. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/08/08/active-forest-management-prevent-wildfires-column/913801002/
mmm no
 
@TimStone So they had captions, so I could hear it.
But I didn't hear any substantial policy discussed.
The main thing I heard that sounded like not socialism was "I'm a venture capitalist who invests in businesses"
 
Fair enough, he just really would like you not to consider him a socialist
 
Got it, thanks @Unionhawk and @TimStone
 
6:12 PM
But honestly I'm not sure his education/healthcare positions are substantially different
 
@TimStone And to be fair, there is good reasoning:
 
Probably more so on the jobs side, where it's akin to that VC investment approach
 
36 mins ago, by SaintWacko
@TimStone And you just know there are people who listened to the whole thing thinking it sounded good and then got to the end and went "Oh, he's a progressive? Nevermind"
Except for socialism
 
On education he wants to raise teacher pay and offer universal pre-K care funded through legalizing marijuana and appropriately directing gambling revenue
He wants to make college full-funded by savings through ending mass incarceration, though it's unclear to me exactly how that works longer-term
For healthcare he's "medicare-for-all"
 
6:26 PM
@TimStone oh yeah, additional drug legalization is another way to help raise more taxes for that $40 trillion target. Especially since it would make more jobs.
 
7:18 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — #US says #Russia used a chemical weapon to try to assassinate ex-spy in #Britain; to impose new sanctions.
lol Rand Paul delivering a note from Trump to Putin and then this drops
No idea what his game is there
 
state of virginia is going on high alert effective friday
UVA (the region's L1 trauma center) is prepared "with resources" (they didn't say it but I assume this means they are prepared for a mass casualty event)
Press Conference: August 10–12 Update https://www.pscp.tv/w/bjs0hDFtTUVQT0pyUm9Zakd8MXlwSmRZTGdyTGd4V3u_3GU8ZBTrzS5NgLsih5RmfW2rnmloXwueOjMYhmOt
 
@Wipqozn Seems like they did a good job on it to me. thumbs up
 
@Unionhawk Wait, what's happening?
 
@SaintWacko Unite the Right 2, I think.
 
@Yuuki Ahh, okay
 
7:32 PM
Electric Boogaloo
 
the governor and city council are covering their asses because you know there's not enough evidence that it's going to be ugly to deny a permit, but there is enough to set aside two million dollars and the national guard if needed
 
Time to take a big sip of coffee and see what Jack's up to today and...Ah. Well
News: @jack will be on @SeanHannity's radio show this afternoon to talk about @Twitter and the issues being raised by Republicans on the platform. I've been as critical as anybody but give them credit for engaging many of us publicly and privately. Lets see what actions follow.
 
@Yuuki Are you sure it's non Zenon The Zequel?
 
user15026
@TimStone oh, joy.
 
Qanon the Qsequel.
 
7:33 PM
Unite the Right 2: Racist Boogaloo
 
@TimStone jack just actually believes that sandy hook was a hoax
and it's up to him and journalists to disprove that
 
@Ash It's just amazingly hard to take anything he does in the remotest of good faiths when he makes these choices on the regular
 
Proud boys are verified because jack is in support of threatening violence against me and my friends, just, flat out
 
Sorry turned into a Russian bot momentarily
@Unionhawk I mean it really doesn't make sense with any other explanation does it
 
It's way easier to explain this when you just accept that he's a bad person
Running a bad website with bad and inconsistent rules
And not even like average techbro ceo bad person
or even regular ceo bad person
 
7:45 PM
I uh
blinks
BREAKING: Court documents say man arrested at New Mexico compound was training children to commit school shootings.
Children found on Taos County compound were being trained to commit school shootings http://dlvr.it/QfF95B
 
Well that's completely fucked
 
whuh
 
@TimStone These two together made me laugh, thanks.
 
@TimStone fwiw the tapes people have heard don't seem to be like especially off the wall or anything but everyone in this circle is the least trustworthy person you know lol and it is great
 
7:53 PM
> Some Ontario craft breweries are opting out of the province's new buck-a-beer plan, arguing it would lower the quality of their beer and force them to pay their staff less.
> Dominion City Brewing Co., an Ottawa brewery, said on Instagram Wednesday morning that it will soon offer a Buck-a-Beer blonde ale. The beer will cost $3.55 for a 355ml can, but the company will donate $1 from each sale to support refugee integration efforts in Ottawa.
> "So, we’ve decided to respond to Ontario’s buck-a-beer challenge in our own way - by inviting our customers to help refugees build a new life in Ottawa."
 
Yeah I was honestly super confused how that was supposed to work and why provincial intoxication was a goal
 
Like I certainly love me some beer but it's just kind of a weird thing for the government to be involved with!
 
Welcome to Doug Ford
He may be cutting a whole bunch of social assistance programs, but he'll be bringing back $1 beers
It's just a ploy to appeal to that core base who don't care about anyone but themselves
 
I don't even remember what I was doing now, damn you news
How did I even get TweetDeck open in the first place?
 
8:05 PM
@Wipqozn oh man, the day all canadians were waiting for.
 
@TimStone Paranormal Activity theme plays
 
saving 25 cents per can of beer
side note, you guys must be drinking a lot of beer
A lot of terrible beer.
 
@TimStone lol fantastic
tbh at this point we should just go see which tweets haven't been relevant yet to see how the rest of this story plays out
IN Sec. of State @SecretaryLawson releases statement opposing @AGCurtisHill's attempt to overturn a satellite voting consent decree in Marion County, calling it a "reckless action" and saying he didn't have the professional courtesy to notify her beforehand.
 
8:38 PM
> Georgia defends voting system despite 243-percent turnout in one precinct
:|
 
Wait what
This is a bizarre quote in the @washingtonpost about a potential presidential interview
lol buddy
Do I have news for you
 
I don't understand this whole "perjury trap" thing
 
It's just an excuse to try and avoid the whole thing
But it's particularly dumb because lying to a federal officer is a crime regardless of whether it's under oath
 
Like... How is that even a thing? I cannot think of any scenario where Mueller could ask a question and Trump lying about it would be a good thing
 
Yeah you either have to believe Mueller would try and get Trump purely on a confused statement or that he has a lot to lie about
Which like, the first definitely happens with the FBI, but not for anyone people care about
Trying to indict a sitting President, which he likely can't even do, purely on a false statements charge would be the most insane thing ever
I guess it makes more sense in an "anything to win no matter how debasing" mindset but
 
8:49 PM
@SaintWacko it assumes that a pathological liar as president is an entirely reasonable thing
 
@TimStone Isn't this literally Bill Clinton's impeachment?
 
@murgatroid99 that's not an indictment, but a political thing.
 
OK, fair, but impeachments are still for crimes, and the crime in question was perjury
 
Impeachments are Congressional things though.
It's not like Mueller can go, "ha, you activated my impeachment card" during the interview.
 
Yeah, it's kind of complex because it's one thing for Congress to stand up and say "That behaviour is unbecoming of a President" versus a counsel indicting a President over a charge that only occurred after the fact
Like until he talks to Mueller he can't have made a false statement that would matter in this context so it would be super weird for Mueller to try and push that outcome knowing it was flimsy
It was flimsy when it happened with Clinton too but they made people care for whatever reason, that wouldn't likely happen here especially given Trump lies tens of times a day some days
Also obviously nothing actually happened with Clinton
 
8:58 PM
If Trump lying about stuff is the worst Mueller could prove, he would have failed at making a case (and almost certainly wouldn't even attempt to charge Trump). There is no way to avoid the political dimension here, and that means there has to be some really substantial stuff for an indictment of the current president to go anywhere at all.
 
Right
Which again is why it's so funny that Trump's position isn't simply to disavow the people who definitely did bad things versus attacking the investigation altogether. I'm not sure if it's because he can't avoid making it about him personally or if someone really messed up and e.g. Manafort has something substantial to tie him to everything
 
which is not a bad thing, you don't want to make it possible to easily politicize this stuff and derail any president with borderline charges.
I really don't think Trump acts rationally at all. So looking for a strategy that goes beyond some kind of gut feeling is futile
 
Fair
We also got a new excerpt from the upcoming @OMAROSA book if you care to read: https://www.thedailybeast.com/omarosa-secretly-recorded-trumpand-played-the-audio-for-people-while-shopping-her-new-book-sources-say
lol not sure about most of those other people but Raj Shah dodged a bullet there huh
 
Do members of congress or senators have immunity in the US?
 
I'd go with no? In what sense?
If just in a general "can a sitting lawmaker be indicted" sense, we just did that this morning
 
9:04 PM
huh, I expected something like that to exist. Our parliament in Germany has immunity, but it is also quickly voided by the parliament itself so far.
 
lol no, no, our politicians are far too corrupt for that
 
I could've sworn national-level representatives have some kind of very limited immunity.
But that just might be soft power.
aka "do you know who i am"
 
@Yuuki It's mostly like they can't be arrested Doing Congress
 
Like they can't be arrested while they're heading off to vote on a bill or something?
 
Uhh I think they have to actually be in a session?
Unless they did Treason or a felony
They can still be indicted, the police just can't come in and disrupt the process
It's to prevent the President from being able to use federal law enforcement to subvert Congressional process
They're also immune from libel-type charges for things they do in Congress like floor speeches and hearings and the like
 
@Memor-X please read the linked article for that info
@puzzlepiece87 congrats, nicely done
@TimStone hot damn the guts on this boi
whew i have digested the news up til now
so much whew
 
10:05 PM
sinclair just did an "actually there are plenty of homeless services" story and I'm mad again
"we are at capacity but we will do our best to make space" does not contradict homeless coalitions charge that every shelter is at or over capacity you absolute shitlords
holy shit
 
@Unionhawk um wat
 
"if someone comes there will be a bed?" "we uh, can operate over capacity" "well case closed"
@GodEmperorDune city of cincinnati has criminalized homelessness in a broad region
Which I think we can all agree sucks shit, and is absolutely not the first step to helping people
They must have realized that "hmm, destroying people's property in favor of clean streets might seem heartless! how do we make this look like actually they're a bunch of ingrates here"
It's so transparent and gross
What the city and Sinclair are doing
There is a federal 1A suit but idk if it's going to go anywhere
 
@GodEmperorDune Thank you!
 
But a judge has ruled that anyone camping or helping would be charged with contempt of court or obstruction of justice or something
Which buddy this is not justice
 
10:32 PM
A small village in France fought against the deportation of a young Sudanese man from their community. 1 in 4 people signed a letter demanding his regularization, and half the town physically fought the police. And in the end, they won! https://twitter.com/ajplusfrancais/status/1026906320098611200
Artist erects 20-foot-tall pro-Trump installation on Staten Island front lawn http://hill.cm/Y6DaI2P
lmao, you do you but also the arms come the hell on
🤔🤔🤔
Who the hell is promoting that, and into the category of people I am for that matter
 
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@TimStone it's like Trump's head on Schwartzenegger's body or something weird
 
Yeah I assume it must be metaphorical because I don't think Trump lifts anything, ever, what with the battery theory
EXCLUSIVE: Footage shows New York Rep. Chris Collins on the phone at the White House's Congressional Picnic when he allegedly shared an illegal stock tip with his son. See our timeline of the case against him: https://cbsn.ws/2Muv87Y https://t.co/BAv1sZuzgt
lol, that's excellent
"We have the call records, the timing and unusual nature of the sales, the fact you're literally on video Doing Crimes"
 
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This makes me feel weird and sad and horrified all at once.
 
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@Wipqozn I saw this! I am so happy people are fighting this.
 
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@Wipqozn This was literally his platform - "I am going to cut things to save us money and give you buck-a-beer"
 
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(He tried to say he'd just trim the excess, but...he's got a very interesting idea on where Ontario's excesses are, let's just say)
 
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