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1:30 AM
@Unionhawk ever since I followed you my TL has been flooded with horrid DSA memes and puns and it's all your fault
i love it. thanks.
 
user15026
1:44 AM
@Unionhawk I'm...not sure what point you're trying to make with this, to be honest
 
user15026
Like...yes, internet = drama, for pretty much any internet subgroup
 
2:12 AM
I regret to inform you that because we referenced something stupid it has now become a potential reality
That something is Crossfire
SCOOP - UTA agent has pitched Avenatti and Mooch as a Crossfire 3.0 to two cable nets. @nytmike https://nyti.ms/2GsBUY3
 
2:24 AM
pls
@maggieNYT @nytmike The end can’t come soon enough.
start of good thread
 
2:53 AM
@Ryan wrong room: this is for politics. you're looking for The Bridge
 
woops, thanks
 
user15026
@Ryan I'm gonna move these messages, because....what @quartata said
 
i have not played either though
 
@Ash I can do it myself ;)
 
user15026
hahahaha this is true :)
 
3:21 AM
TRUMP: "They're not even people. They're animals." TRUMP SUPPORTERS: "Calm down, he was only talking about criminals." TRUMP'S SON, ERIC: "Actually DEMOCRATS aren't even people." https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/997252735614337024
 
@TimStone seems like a Trump has to fan even doused fires
 
hold my well done steak
 
Good morning from Florida! AP put out this story last night re: Xinjiang's stunning new re-education centers, We worked on this for weeks and used maybe less than half of the reporting, so, some thoughts below https://apnews.com/6e151296fb194f85ba69a8babd972e4b?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter
WATCH: Trump says he hears "covfefe" in viral "Laurel" and "Yanny" audio clip http://hill.cm/2lyXfVr
rubs temples
I thought Ryan was bad enough but here we are
 
3:57 AM
Bill Gates: Trump left event he was already at so he could make a "grand entrance" in a helicopter http://hill.cm/90rdxRA
this sounds like a worse Choppergate
at least Bronwyn Bishop was traveling to different places
One year on, here's what the Mueller Russia probe has achieved http://bit.ly/2LajsXy
 
Ave
4:28 AM
@Memor-X you know what'd be really nice?
if news sites didn't use up half of the screen with stuff I don't care about
and x button on that video doesn't work
 
@Ave i don't get the video but i have adblock
 
Ave
I do too
 
@Ave also in Chrome too
 
Ave
same
(I'm on ublock origin)
 
@Ave that your adblocker?
 
Ave
4:33 AM
yes
 
@Ave mine is Adblock, maybe they work differently
 
 
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12:21 PM
Man firing shots and 'spewing' about president inside Trump National Doral shot by police http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/fl-reg-trump-national-doral-shooting-20180518-story.html
China buys record amount of soy from Russia after canceling US orders over Trump threats http://hill.cm/ygqkyte
Who knew Russia even grew soy?
 
12:43 PM
@TimStone more so, who knew that soy farmers would be affected by Trump mouthing off like he does
oh wait
seriously though my perception of russia was that it was too cold for soy farming
 
Apparently a minimum growing season temperature of ~20C is enough
Turns in U.S. foreign policy toward Qatar happen to correspond with Qatar's disposition toward helping the Kushner family with a skyscraper burdened by hundreds of millions of dollars of debt. https://on.msnbc.com/2Kz1ih2
lmao @ the video still
😬
 
1:08 PM
Someone asks Corker about fiscal responsibility. He answers, “Yeah, I’m just over it. Nobody cares. The President isn’t going to deal with it, he made it clear in the campaign.” @WRCB
🤷
DEVELOPING: School district on lockdown in Sante Fe, Texas due to incident at high school involving active shooter.
 
1:59 PM
Unconfirmed reports suggest that the shooter pulled the fire alarm before shooting
 
2:14 PM
@Memor-X @Ave I could be completely wrong, but I think part of the reason UBlock Origin is lightweight is because of how they handle stuff like that.
But they also don't do the ABP thing of preserving the page layout with empty iframes so that is part of it also.
 
2:38 PM
Mueller special investigation is already on par with only Whitewater, Iran-Contra, and Watergate in terms of crime dealt with just stop with being so dumb.
 
But it's against a rich guy who's making money for other rich people, so it's not going to go anywhere
 
the NYPD sergeants' union (why the fuck do they have their own union) twitter account is amazing
 
@SaintWacko To be fair Iran-Contra didn't go anywhere either because GHB pardoned everyone
You do the best you can with what you're given
 
2:48 PM
it's going to be so great when there's actually, literally no reason to hassle people for stuff like this instead of just no good reason
 
Agreed
 
the sergeant's union is going to be so mad when that happens
 
@puzzlepiece87 Gonna be great when Trump starts doing the same thing
 
@Unionhawk well you can't drink in public either, I doubt legalization will include 'in public/around children'
Legalization/decriminalization
 
LATEST on Texas high school shooting: -Suspect has been apprehended, officials say; -Suspect appears to be a student, local law enforcement has told other agencies; -Extent of injuries unknown. Full details: https://abcn.ws/2KwUArO Live coverage: https://abcn.ws/2IsHkbq
 
2:55 PM
Another one?
 
It's a weekday in America, so yes
 
A bit defeatist don't you think
 
@SaintWacko Yupppp already looking forward to it.
 
@GnomeSlice I mean we average like at least 1 per month
Not always indiscriminate shootings, but shootings nevertheless
 
The Ringer actually does put out good content, their terrible politics takes are relatively rare. Here's their oral history of the Microsoft anti-trust case that I'm already enjoying.
 
3:07 PM
UPDATE: Multiple law enforcement officials tell @KHOU that at least 8 students have died during a mass shooting at a Texas high school this morning https://goo.gl/oHttt2
 
chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/44688845#44688845 Though to be fair they do miss the fact that a big part of the dismantling of Microsoft also came from the EU.
@Unionhawk how do you reply to yourself?
 
@puzzlepiece87 grab a link, trim out everything except the message id, throw a : in front of it
 
Ah I'm sure the solution to all this school violence is to compel students to smile
throws all the tables
I am already done for the day, everything is horrible
 
@Unionhawk Thank you.
 
3:22 PM
Including today’s shooting incident at a Texas high school, this year there have already been 22 school shootings where someone was hurt or killed. That averages out to more than 1 shooting a week. https://cnn.it/2Ir9JOR
 
@TimStone ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
One day this will stop being relevant... Right?
Also 8 reported dead so far
 
@Wipqozn No.
 
@Wipqozn No. Citations: Sandy Hook, Stoneman Douglas
Columbine, really.
 
This is the whitest way anyone has ever used drugs http://www.businessinsider.com/posh-people-taking-mdma-with-cheese-in-brieing-trend-2018-5
 
3:35 PM
I was going to mention that but I didn't have the will
 
@Wipqozn eventually, the expanding sun will consume Earth, destroying the US as both a geographical region and a meaningful political concept.
 
It's a good piece
 
@Unionhawk good as in NYT actually published a good piece or good as in horrortaining to look at?
 
WH mailer just arrived and they didn't slip in anything about the shooting, bang-up job there folks
@ToxicFrog I mean it's a bit of both because it's a profile in which they make him show his ass
 
> The changes in his life include starting to clean his room. “My mom’s been nagging me for years, but I’ve never done it until Dr. Peterson,” he says.
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3:38 PM
Sorry, not even make, let
It's not like they lead him to absurdity, it's just all there is
Good reminder for people not familiar with the legal system. It moves...s-l-o-w-l-y https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-muellers-first-year-compares-to-watergate-iran-contra-and-whitewater/
Investigative speedrunning
 
4:08 PM
Farm bill fails 198-213.
@TimStone Death toll has risen to 10
 
5:05 PM
“What we were afraid of is that, eighteen months from now, you’ve got candidate Greitens, former Navy seal, running for President.” I wrote about Eric Greitens for the @NewYorker https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-lesson-of-eric-greitens-and-the-navy-seals-who-tried-to-warn-us
And here's a photo of a very happy looking McConnell with some gold bars at the same Fort Knox trip with Mnuchin on the day of the eclipse. Photos released via FOIA.
Interviewer: “Was there a part of you that was like, ‘This could not happen at my school?’” Santa Fe High School student: “No. It’s been happening everywhere. I’ve always felt it would eventually happen here, too.” https://t.co/MPxVScd3QE
 
user15026
@TimStone For fuck's sake
 
user15026
@MadScientist that's goddamn heartbreaking.
 
7:15 PM
It will get vetoed and might not even pass the Senate but
20 of 25 Republican DACA signatures needed for discharge petition are gathered, so a House debate on 4 bills may be forced soon
 
Air Force base that lost explosives: We’re also missing a machine gun https://wapo.st/2It0QUX
Oh good, we've already entered the terrible take phase of this shooting
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says there are too many entrances and exits to schools, and that is why shootings are able to happen. "Had there been one single entrance possibly for every student, maybe he would have been stopped."
 
7:37 PM
@TimStone "He would've been stopped because we'd know he'd be waiting at that entrance to mow everyone down."
> As Santa Fe High School was on lockdown Friday monring with an active shooter situation, a man who appeared be open-carrying a handgun near the school while holding an American flag was there to "make American great again".

> The man spoke to KHOU-TV near the scene of a deadly school shooting in south Houston and said he arrived to "offer support". The man also appeared to be open-carrying a handgun on his hip when he walked away from the news crews. The man carried an American flag on a pole.
I hate my fellow Houstonians.
 
@Yuuki Some other guy came up and told him he was an embarrassment
 
@TimStone Yeah, I've got a line for that too.
This is what he said:
> "That's not what America needs. America needs prayers," the unidentified man said.
Yes. Prayers. Literal thoughts and prayers.
 
user15026
No no no no no people why
 
user15026
people no
 
Good news is that a mobile blood drive center thing should be in my neighborhood on Sunday.
Need to remember to get on that.
 
8:16 PM
Fun fact: there have been more school shooting casualties this year than military casualties.
 
@Yuuki Wow, really?
 
> even without those deaths [at Sante Fe], nearly twice as many people were killed at schools than in the military
Military casualties were derived from DoD news releases and includes combat and noncombat deaths.
 
@TimStone this is just wrong
 
Even when you only account for students who died in school shootings (which also excludes teachers), the total still exceeds military casualties.
 
8:27 PM
make it stop
@TimStone nice
Have we done this yet (I know @Unionhawk saw it):
Now @ Penn Station a man is on the steps as hundreds of people pass smoking marijuana. With over 20 years as a cop I wondered should I arrest him, what if he’s illegal, will I get in trouble if he resist, oh Community policing? Will the NYPD back me? NOT! So I justed walked away.
 
@quartata I... what?
 
cops throwing a shitfit on twitter over some random bloke just smoking a blunt, great stuff
if it was tobacco do you think a single fuck would be given
 
Wait, is it still illegal there?
 
illegal for recreational, legal for medical
 
@quartata Ah
 
8:34 PM
aka nobody really cares unless you're poor and/or black
it's the same old thing
They want to keep marijuana illegal so they have an excuse for searches and to fill up lockup quotas
It's just hilarious that they'd rage about it on twitter dot com like what
chill
 
@quartata See, that guy looks poor, but he's not black
No wonder the cop was confused
 
it;s actully so difficult
 
@quartata He's just sitting there. Menacingly.
 
I'm more interesting in what this person was doing
 
@Yuuki terrifying
@TimStone handling bioweapons
 
8:43 PM
See, that's what I'm sayin!
 
@TimStone Two by two.
 
It's not see something say something about the other guy smoking a blunt now is it?
 
can i just say really quickly im envious of that guy's jacket
i freaking love puffy ski jackets
 
@quartata yeah the sergeants union is amazing
 
@SBANYPD so relatable. i myself live in constant fear of getting "360 noscope" vaped directly in face when i go to the subway. the world is no longer safe
 
8:55 PM
You'd think that police would happy to not have to pursue meaningless "crimes" so they can focus on actually protecting people.
 
@Yuuki it's almost like
 
But then again, that only makes sense if you're thinking about police officers who want to protect people rather than wasting time and making money off of it.
 
They don't see it that way
 
I know police officers who think that way, but they clearly aren't in charge of this sergeants' union.
 
one less thing I have to do? how about, one less excuse to search people's cars and display my power
shoutouts to good personal friend JK3
 
9:30 PM
@Unionhawk we get it, you have an extremely low opinion of police
hue
 
9:49 PM
Listen, I don't run the sergeants union Twitter account
 
10:13 PM
I did not even realize that tweet was part of a conversation
oh, I didn't scroll up enough. Yeah, some dude with some power said something dumb
I think we have enough of that here to last for an eternity
 
If only we could harness that power for good
 
user15026
@quartata This is not really news, honestlyu
 
user15026
I get the point that's being made about policing in general but...I'd kinda not like this room to devolve into every hot take around police/political figures saying dumb shit, as they're prone to
 
People smoking weed in public ought to be ashamed of themselves, but yeah not news
@Ash too late
 
user15026
@GnomeSlice I know it's kinda like trying to empty an ocean with a teaspoon at this point, but honestly, this sort of thing sucks and I want this room to be more than "latest dunk on Twitter because someone said a stupid"
 
10:19 PM
shrug
This was never really a news room
It was a place to put twitter dunks and political shit that everyone was sick of looking at
 
user15026
points to room description
 
user15026
If we want this room to not be a steaming cesspool, we need more of that and less of....whatever's happening
 
Yeah, well you can put whatever you want in there, it's not the problem the room was created to solve. It's hard to keep it on track
@Ash Yes I agree
that's in the stars
is that really news?
No, it is not
'lol look at the dumb GOP again guys amirite'
 
user15026
The room was intended to give people a place to discuss news rather than just use it as a yelling soapbox.
 
Yea I know. People still use it as a yelling soapbox
 
user15026
10:22 PM
I'd kiiiiinda like it to be less "look at that idiot over there" and more...that thing.
 
Also I like that phrase
'yelling soapbox'
 
user15026
I know how people use it, I'm just saying....maybe we should not that thing, because it's not very much awesome.
 
agree
 
user15026
And I know what people are used to, and I know I've done the thing (and I am trying really hard not to do the thing), I just...I want to do better.
 
I think it would reasonable to say, in addition to "Stars are reserved for news items", that "discussion in the room should primarily be about news"
 
user15026
10:30 PM
room topic changed to This Is Fine: The news discussion offshoot of the Bridge. Stars reserved for news items. Discussion should primarily be about news topics. [eternal-2016] [-gaming]
 
user15026
Please this thing.
 
@GnomeSlice It is, it's an insanely irresponsible way for a member of Congress to hold a hearing
This is someone actively engaged in the responsibility of running the country and it is shameful
 
But "Republican Congress member makes up something stupid to argue against human-caused climate change" isn't really news, in the sense that it's been happening for a long time, and the only thing really new about this is that it's particularly stupid
 
@GnomeSlice people that have actual power, not just random persons on twitter or celebrities, promoting terrible science is news.
 
I don't know what you want news to be, then
If not literally what's happening with the people running the show
 
10:37 PM
If being terrible for long enough means it's not worth mentioning anymore, I think we lost already
 
But there's nothing different there. Is it really news every time a politician continues to follow their party's script?
 
user15026
I'm not opposed to stiff like that climate change thing, I'm mostly just tired of all the "someone was an idiot on Twitter" stuff
 
Eh, I was personally okay with the original post, given that it's the SBA. What an organization that represents 13k current & former cops thinks is acceptable isn't just a Twitter thing, IMO, but if y'all feel strongly then I won't argue
 
At least it was just that guy getting mad on the internet instead of hassling the guy like he clearly wanted to
 
1/ Vickers “Vic” Cunningham, a former criminal district judge now in a runoff to be the sole Republican Dallas County commissioner, has acknowledged that in 2010 he set up a living trust with a clause rewarding his children if they marry a white person. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas-county/2018/05/18/marry-white-straight-christian-dallas-county-politician-admits-rewarding-kids-within-traditional-family-values https://t.co/gWLUUHyZb6
🤷
 
10:50 PM
@TimStone is "republican guy does racism" really news tbh
 
user15026
sighs and this is why I hate trying to keep order in this room.
 
user15026
Because I get (at least what feels like) sarcastic responses.
 
FUCK I forgot about the Munk debate on political correctness I literally just got to the gym
@Ash that's what I was saying
 
user15026
All I am trying to do is keep this room from being yet another trash fire on the network. I apologize for trying to do so.
 
Keep trying
It is appreciated
 
10:54 PM
It just feels arbitrary to me a lot of the time
 
user15026
I can't be here all of the time, so I go with what I see.
 
Like we just had a debate about whether what a literal congressman said about climate change counts
 
It doesn't.
 
Nothing is news because everything is dumb and bad now
 
That's what they say about the stock market too.
 
user15026
10:56 PM
sighs Look, all I am trying to do is bring some focus to the room, so that people can do the thing it was intended to do.
 
If a highly political individual backs or doesn't back the NCA awards that people will follow suit.
 
@Unionhawk "Person continues to behave as all evidence indicates that they would" isn't news because it isn't new
 
However the stock market is completely unpredictable. If it were predictable, someone would have done it a long time ago.
 
user15026
I get the world is a damn trash fire most of the time, and I get wanting an outlet, but not every thing that falls out of someone's mouth is news
 
Because people are spoiled and they want to get rich.
And they're mad when they don't. I get mad when I don't get rich too.
 
10:59 PM
um
 
user15026
@GettingNifty I feel like this doesn't really have much to do with what's actually going on right now?
 
@Unionhawk Twitter would probably be better suited to your needs than this chat room
 
You keep attacking people and have no basis.
Ad Hominem
 
@GnomeSlice thank you for your input.
 
11:04 PM
Any time my dude
@Ash and actually wasn't it called The Vent before
Like I said it was made for a thing then 'legitimized'
 
user15026
@GnomeSlice This room? I don't recall. I don't think so? Might've been a different room.
 
By making it officially a news room
Hm. Maybe.
 
user15026
I distinctly recall mod discussion in regards to creating a news etc. specific room
 
user15026
Okay, yes, just transcript checked, this was created as TIF for the purpose of news discussion
 
Shoehorned essentially
So maybe bring it back for complaining and keep this one for real news?
 
user15026
11:10 PM
Oh, right, yes I forgot about Vent - I don't think having that is a good idea
 
user15026
if it was, we'd've kept it
 
@GnomeSlice look it's my fault, I shared it here because Uni replied to it on twitter
 
Well why did you get rid of it, because now all that garbage is just in here
 
that being said, it is an official-ish statement from an organization. it's not like I took it from a random person
 
So maybe the community still wants it?
I'm just offering possible solutions
 
user15026
11:11 PM
@GnomeSlice Because we don't want to create rooms that are garbage pits on the network?
 
Also at the gym so my responses may seem short
Typing between sets
 
user15026
@GnomeSlice that's dedication :P
 
Meh, I still care about this place for some reason
And I'm annoyed I'm missing the debate so this is at least engaging
 
@GnomeSlice Are you, hold on. Are you proposing, in the room you advocated creating so you wouldn't have to deal with it, creating yet a third sub room now that you use this room?
 
Thanks though 😀
 
11:14 PM
Er second
 
@Unionhawk somebody raised a problem, I just offered a solution
 
user15026
Another room is not the answer.
 
Other possibilities include no news that begins with 'x said' lol
People say dumb shit all the time
Look at me
 
I don't understand how or that this is a problem
Like, Twitter oneboxes sure they're big
This shit, right now, absolutely
A link, much less so
It just feels like we're trying to develop a set of editorial standards only for the purposes of not having to discuss what the definition of news is for a half hour again
 
user15026
Alright, here's the deal. I've updated the room description as follows: "The news discussion offshoot of the Bridge. Stars reserved for news items. Discussion should primarily be about news topics." Please attempt to follow this thing - this is not your Twitter playground, this is not for every Hot Take (TM) or well crafted dunk or "haha someone said a stupid".
6
 
user15026
11:20 PM
There are other places on the internet for that.
 
Oh, I missed where Paul Ryan was having kids arrested earlier
BREAKING: @SpeakerRyan is having high school kids arrested for peacefully protesting outside his office for gun reform now https://www.pscp.tv/w/bc8xojFQbUtxWER5d0JZUW98MVprS3pWYm56cFpLdqG2IrAUOZ0cC6RiVVzap2_v5zaNo3kQhh-H9vI33w1w
 
user15026
He can do that? What's he charging with?
 
"Unlawful demonstration" or "Disruption of Congress" or some other such charge most likely
 
I assume disorderly conduct or yeah
It happens all the time
 
user15026
Huh, TIL.
 
11:32 PM
ADAPT gets arrested at the Capitol all the time
 
user15026
Yeah, I just didn't connect that sort of thing with this.
 
11:57 PM
True fact: in the US you can be arrested and charged with resisting arrest and nothing else
e.g. if the original "arrest" was itself unlawful
 

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