@GodEmperorDune lol what

@TimStone it was a pretty bad company to work for, but the location was good and i figured it would give me a chance to build up resume

i wish i saved it, the benefits page was a list of all basic things offered by most companies

complies with osha, paid time off (not specified amounts or unlimited vacation, just that they existed), medical/dental, 401k (not matching, just that you could do a 401k on your own), stuff like that

looks like they finally updated their website (it was dreamweaver images sliced into tables type stuff in 2014), i can't find it

oh wait i found it, here it is

lol

It's like someone was desperate to pad out the list

yep

Isn't workers' compensation something that companies are legally obligated to provide?

@murgatroid99 yes it is

state disability insurance too

I can't wait for a company like that to have a practically empty benefits list

And paid holidays (to a certain extent)?

@murgatroid99 i am not sure if that is legally required or just a thing that almost every company does

i think paid sick leave is mandatory in california now

@GodEmperorDune Definitely

I actually know this because our sick leave thing at work makes us record a few days of "US/Canada sick leave" before we start taking generic sick leave, I think to demonstrate that every employee gets at least that much

@murgatroid99 i know it because a multi-state company i worked for had separated out sick/vacation for california but lumped them into a generic "PTO" for other states

but that might also be because accrued paid vacation hours in California count as salary so they have to pay your out when you leave the company, but sick time they do not

@Spite It's What's For Dinner

@GodEmperorDune We also have limited vacation, but not not limited sick days

HAHAHAHAHA

Is she for real?

Pretty sure it's the genocide

Oh how the great have fallen.

@PrivatePansy is that the country killing large swaths of innocent people?

@PrivatePansy oh my god

That's Aung San Suu Kyi, right?

@Yuuki cnn says so

cnn.com/2017/09/19/asia/myanmar-aung-san-suu-kyi-speech-facts/…

She used to be a symbol for freedom under an oppressed regime.

:/

i feel the bar is lowered for governments so much these days

like start with not ethnically cleansing anyone

this shouldn't be a controversial stance

Meanwhile in unsurprising shouldn't be controversial

DSA endorses Medicare For All 2017

@Unionhawk see i like it but it has no chance of passing congress and getting trump to sign it

it's basically so the cosponsors can go home to constituents and brag about an empty gesture

like the left's version of voting to repeal obamacare 57 times, then choking on the real thing

But we aren't going to get anywhere sitting on our hands saying it won't pass so why bother

@Unionhawk there is a difference between "this bill might get 30-40 votes and come close to passing" and "this bill will grab headlines for those involved"

like the COVFEFE bill, SWAMP act, etc

we should be killing the latest obamacare repeal and going for bipartisan fix

if it's truly about doing the right thing

but "we fixed the thing trump was sabotaging" is not as good a fundraiser as "see i'm trying medicare for all"

Except Medicare for All presents a meaningful political goal, whereas the covfefe and swamp acts do stupid things like make social media presidential record, and forces the president to reimburse travel

bills are not about political goals, bills are about solving a thing

Like yeah he does dumb shit on social media and the current law is open to interpretation on social media

platforms are for goals

And he does spend a lot of money on travel to his own resorts

oh the stuff trump is doing that is not technically illegal but seems very against the spirit of the law is fuct

But those things aren't meaningful. You can't run with just "the president is bad amirite"

@Unionhawk i agree

but effort spent on medicare for all is effort we are spending on the healthcare system which was recently updated instead of in other areas

like go for the easy "here we patched obamacare to last for ten years, onto the next thing"

And yet the republicans have run pretty successfully on repeal

The ACA is far from good enough for now

@Unionhawk i have no fucking idea how that worked so well

It relies on market based solutions still which don't work because as it turns out it's expensive to insure sick people in this country

And when there's a profit motive the entire way still, you end up with premiums and deductibles that are too high to make a meaningful difference in people's lives

@Unionhawk so go public option next, or get employers out of the insurance business

there are incremental steps which are much more likely to not massively disrput everything

@Unionhawk the other thing with healthcare (and most complex things) is about tradeoffs

ACA was about getting people insurance

cost and quality were secondary

if you want widely available, high quality care, it's going to be expensive

if you want to save money, you need to cut from some of the other sides

if you are talking about "we're going to nationalize this entire industry over a short time period", that is not a magic wand that saves money, you are at least going to need to own that you are firing tens of thousands of people by making their jobs illegal

or if its govt only, then you need to vet all those new employees through whatever the govt hiring policies are

and if you try to rush it, or cut standards, there will be eventual scandals and "see i told you medicare for all was doomed"

basically change takes time to do it properly. big changes take more time

It is going to take time

And we do have to consider the 526000 people employed by the health insurance industry

But that doesn't mean we should just stop fighting for that

And settle for incremental change that relies on Democrats staying in power forever

There are certainly steps we can take on the path, but bandaging the ACA forever isn't a plan

Oh my god help Tucker is the dumbest man on television he started his show wondering why the NAACP was against the DACA decision help

So someone took a closer look at Kelly's watch in the facepalming photo and cross referenced it with the speech time and confirmed that Kelly was facepalming in response to Trump's "Rocket Man".

@Unionhawk I would prefer we get back to a point where bipartisan fixes aren't a controversial things and happen regardless of which party is in power

Ugh wtf

...

@GodEmperorDune the republicans have no interest in fixing the problem

@Unionhawk and they would be better at fixing problems that crop up in a Medicare for all bill?

there are always adjustments and incremental fixes that need to be made later

They've spent two months trying to eliminate all of the good parts of ACA what do you think a bipartisan solution looks like

Only eliminating half of the good things ACA did?

@Unionhawk fix csrs, mandate that the advertising budget be used to promote things that boost enrollment

@Unionhawk at this point? Dismantling the entire election system in a bipartisan way

cc NuclearTakes

@GodEmperorDune I guess I just don't have faith in bipartisan solutions because the republicans are ghouls that hate poor people. Who literally hate the concept of health insurance itself because it forces them to help subsidize women and sick people. How do you negotiate with that.

No a socialist solution won't pass now

And it probably won't pass until at least 2021

But they've been successful in the past (Medicare, Social Security) because the Rs are afraid to touch them

And they've been afraid to do that because people see these things as tangible positive goods in their life

This bill won't pass

It won't even see anything past cosponsorship

But it's a message to the party establishment what the goal must be

@badp Isn't this the same dude who was like "my ideal world is a world where nazi armbands and black power people can live in harmony"

seems legit

I bet the exchange in his mind goes like

Probably

Actually I think he thinks these people are cosplayers who admire his military genius

I don't care enough to dig for that

@Unionhawk So... troll?

It's really hard to tell these days

BUT THOSE ARE NOT THE RIGHT NUMBERS

BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE RIGHT NUMBERS

YOU ONLY KILL THE POOR ONCE

Portman is probably voting for it and I hate it

His office is probably about to tell me that he's waiting for the numbers and also they can't wait for cbo in one sentence

@badp Because "peacefully advocating for genocide" is an oxymoron

I approve

Senators pledge to defeat Silicon Valley on sex-trafficking bill

lsc says that it's basically about the ability to hold admins responsible for all user content, including user hosted and linked images.

that's very problematic and is a step backwards

Wait, so does that mean Rob Portman will be responsible for any images that's posted on his website?

I'm of course assuming that he has a website.

senators typically have two

them.senate.gov and themforsenate.com

does it mean if people upload illegal stuff to fcc's "oh yeah upload any document" system then fcc is legally responsible for it now?

Yes

Before you ask your next question why do you posess illegal content

honestly the intentions of the bill isn't bad, but it raises many questions, like what if data is encrypted? How can company check and therefore know that it's illegal? It's also bad for privacy and it'd require millions of people to go through the data for big big stuff like youtube

@Unionhawk I do not

@Avery yeah pretty much

like it's not like I could know but some companies do run automated checks for illegal content on file upload

(discord does it for viruses and presumably images, though I didn't see the latter in practice, the former is pretty cool as it replaces it with a recipe-- I'll try it on arqade server's #offtopic, check it out)

like maybe some laws that require similar automated checks would be nice but holding owners as liable is a pain

Can someone get me a gif of the Westworld scene with Bernard yelling "YOU'RE LYING" to Ford so I can just reply to everything Sen Cassidy tweets with it

thx in advance

Although a gif of that wouldn't capture how viceral that line feels today

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@Yuuki the picture of eric trump with his kid looks so awkward

hell even that one looks uncomfortable

politifact rates TRUE

@Unionhawk hue

@GodEmperorDune rule 1 of politics: never hold paper ever

Rule 2: never allow yourself to be photographed stuffing your face on a presidential campaign stop

@Yuuki Hahaha, the look on her face. She looks terrified!

@Unionhawk Big man, delivering his letter...

@Avery One thing I want to point out about the bill is even worse that what you were saying: its purpose is to fight stuff that is not necessarily possible to identify algorithmically

nice.

It's not like CP, where there are hash databases. The purpose is to fight solicitation of certain kinds of services (sex trafficking)

eh

it's an impossible bill

It's definitely possible, it will just have terrible consequences

theoretically yes

practically, yes, very problematic

If your goal is "punish websites for hosting sex trafficking solicitation", it would probably work just fine. If your goal is "have a free and open Internet where users can post content", it's really bad for that.

eh

hopefully it'll cause more companies to invest outside US

preferably outside the 14-eyes and outside countries with unfun laws

switzerland?

@Ash underage pornography.

@Ash Considering US companies pay a ton to devs compared to EU and even CA, I kinda feel like they could regain their losses from the relatively lower salary they're paying

unrelated

@Avery That doesn't really help, though. Companies generally have to follow the rules of the countries they operate in, not just the ones where they have offices. And discarding the American market entirely is a high cost to pay.

eh, one can dream.