Discussion between uwnojpjm and boboquack

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Q: Guide dots to land on any pair of matching portals at the same time

Question: First, I'll define the left blue dot as dot 1, and the right blue dot as dot 2. Left being <, right being >, up being ^, and down being v, what set of these moves can guide the two dots to land on any matching pair of portals at the same time? Rules: (0) The two side-by-side dots a...

boboquack

You've got arrows from the orange dots. Do you mean them to be dot1 and dot2 instead of the blue dots?

uwnojpjm

The black arrows in the diagram indicate a portal transfer from an orange portal to a gray portal. Gray to orange portal transfers work too.

boboquack

Have you used Puzzlescript before? It might be useful to make an interactive version of this puzzle.

uwnojpjm

@boboquack, this is great. Is it embeddable to SE?

boboquack

Unfortunately not, but you can get a link to the puzzle you produce and/or copy the code here for others.

uwnojpjm

03:26

@boboquack, working on it.

@boboquack, here is my incomplete game. I need to figure out teleports and how to get players above background layers...

I don't think puzzle script is robust enough.

boboquack

I can help

uwnojpjm

You got the link?

boboquack

Yep

You want this:

================
COLLISIONLAYERS
================

Player, Wall, G1, G2
Background

I think

wait

================
COLLISIONLAYERS
================

Background
P11
P12
P21
P22
Player, Wall, G1, G2

uwnojpjm

In my first version, if your first move is left, then the dot in the right most corner shouldn't move.

Any time the player goes to move to a "wall" portion no one should move.

========
OBJECTS
========

Temp
Black

Player
Yellow
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G1
Blue
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G2
Blue Yellow
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

Background
Pink White
11111
10001
10001
10001
11111

Wall
White
00000
00000
00000
00000
00000

P11
Orange Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P12
Orange White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P21
Gray Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P22
Gray White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

=======
LEGEND
=======

. = Background
# = Wall

boboquack

Yeah

So we can add extra conditions

E.g.

 [> Player|Wall] -> CANCEL
 [>G1||<G2] -> CANCEL
 [>G1|<G2] -> CANCEL
 [>G1||<Player] -> CANCEL
 [>G1|<Player] -> CANCEL

also

late [>G1|wall] ->[G1|wall]
late [>G2|wall] ->[G2|wall]

Now the portals are more complicated

more up to date set of rules:

======
RULES
======

[ > Player ] [ G1 ] -> [ > Player ] [ < G1 ]
[ > Player ] [ G2 ] -> [ > Player ] [ > G2 ]
[> Player|Wall] -> CANCEL
[> G1||< Player] -> CANCEL
[> G1|< Player] -> CANCEL
[> G1||< G2] -> [G1||G2]
[> G1|< G2] -> [G1|G2]
[> G1|wall] ->[G1|wall]
[> G2|wall] ->[G2|wall]

Actually:

======
RULES
======

[ > Player ] [ G1 ] -> [ > Player ] [ < G1 ]
[ > Player ] [ G2 ] -> [ > Player ] [ > G2 ]
[> Player|Wall] -> CANCEL
[> G1||< Player] -> CANCEL
[> G1|< Player] -> CANCEL
[> G1||< G2] -> [G1||G2]
[> G1|< G2] -> [G1|G2]
[> G1|wall] -> [G1|wall]
[> G2|wall] -> [G2|wall]
[> Player|G2|Wall] -> [Player|G2|Wall]

uwnojpjm

03:47

This is awesome!

boboquack

So that's everything but the portals

Now I'll add them

uwnojpjm

What about wins?

A win is when both blues are on two grays at the same time or two oranges at the same time in whatever order.

boboquack

Yes, I can add that too

uwnojpjm

04:21

I witnessed an illegal move, we need [> Player|G2|Wall] -> CANCEL as well.

G1 moves when the Player moves when Player|G2|Wall happens.

boboquack

title Simple Block Pushing Game
author Stephen Lavelle
homepage www.puzzlescript.net

========
OBJECTS
========

Player
Yellow
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G1
Blue
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G2
Green
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

Background
Pink White
11111
10001
10001
10001
11111


Wall
White
00000
00000
00000
00000
00000

P11
Orange Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P12
Orange White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P21
Gray Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P22
Gray White
.....
.000.

That's what I have at the moment, maybe you can test

Oops

uwnojpjm

68068303 is a good portal sound

boboquack

title Simple Block Pushing Game
author Stephen Lavelle
homepage www.puzzlescript.net

========
OBJECTS
========

Player
Yellow
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G1
Blue
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G2
Green
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

Background
Pink White
11111
10001
10001
10001
11111


Wall
White
00000
00000
00000
00000
00000

P11
Orange Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P12
Orange White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P21
Gray Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P22
Gray White
.....
.000.

that should work better

Oops

I forgot myself going to a portal

uwnojpjm

12735500 is a good win sound

Your T condition should be for simultaneous orange hits OR simultaneous gray hits. No simultaneous orange/gray hits. So, "T = P11 or P12 or P21 or P22" should be "T = P11 or P12 U = P21 or P22" with a win condition of, presumably, "all X on T or all X on U"

boboquack

04:40

title Simple Block Pushing Game
author Stephen Lavelle
homepage www.puzzlescript.net

========
OBJECTS
========

Player
Yellow
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G1
Blue
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G2
Green
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

Background
Pink White
11111
10001
10001
10001
11111


Wall
White
00000
00000
00000
00000
00000

P11
Orange Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P12
Orange White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P21
Gray Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P22
Gray White
.....
.000.

At the moment things teleport even if they don't move, do you want that?

uwnojpjm

What do you mean?

Let me play.

I'll check.

boboquack

So like if G1 hits a wall on a portal, it will still teleport

also, if say G1 and player are both on linked portals, they will switch positions

uwnojpjm

Can you cancel the situation when any hits a wall after portal transfer?

Entity swap on a simultaneous portal hit is cool. Keep that.

boboquack

so do you want no portal if no movement, clarifying?

uwnojpjm

Linked portals specifically.

What do you mean no portal if no movement?

boboquack

04:52

so if something collides with a wall and ends up not moving, it won't teleport - that's what you want?

uwnojpjm

Oh!

I see.

I don't know. What seems good?

I think no teleport on collision is good.

boboquack

The only problem is then G1 and G2 might merge

like if g1 stays still on a portal and g2 moves onto the linked portal and teleports into g1

uwnojpjm

I was just thinking that.

boboquack

title Simple Block Pushing Game
author Stephen Lavelle
homepage www.puzzlescript.net

========
OBJECTS
========

Player
Yellow
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G1
Blue
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G2
Green
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

Background
Pink White
11111
10001
10001
10001
11111


Wall
White
00000
00000
00000
00000
00000

P11
Orange Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P12
Orange White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P21
Gray Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P22
Gray White
.....
.000.

Fixed problem with winning, I think

title Simple Block Pushing Game
author Stephen Lavelle
homepage www.puzzlescript.net

========
OBJECTS
========

Player
Yellow
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G1
Blue
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G2
Green
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

Background
Pink White
11111
10001
10001
10001
11111


Wall
White
00000
00000
00000
00000
00000

P11
Orange Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P12
Orange White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P21
Gray Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P22
Gray White
.....
.000.

^actually, this should be better

uwnojpjm

No sounds on win?

Portal sounds?

Is that too complicated?

12735500 for win, 68068303 for teleport

I don't think you can.

Endgame

boboquack

05:04

I can do it

title Simple Block Pushing Game
author Stephen Lavelle
homepage www.puzzlescript.net

========
OBJECTS
========

Player
Yellow
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G1
Blue
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

G2
Green
.....
.000.
.000.
.000.
.....

Background
Pink White
11111
10001
10001
10001
11111


Wall
White
00000
00000
00000
00000
00000

P11
Orange Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P12
Orange White
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P21
Gray Black
.....
.000.
.010.
.000.
.....

P22
Gray White
.....
.000.

Here is the code

I removed the annoying functionality that once you win, you can't undo and see what you did

Yay! I won

uwnojpjm

Woo!

Nice job.

Thanks for helping. ^^

boboquack

Edit: I didn't change the dot hitting wall and teleporting thing - it was too hard to implement

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