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1:37 AM

It's a completely valid question, but Americans also go to the bathroom regularly, even though that's typically omitted from movies unless relevant to the plot or for comedic effect :) — Zach Lipton 26 secs ago

#26477 Zach Lipton (220 rep) | A: Is it customary in the US not to say "bye" after a phone call? (score: 6) | posted 10 hours ago by baldPrussian (30669 rep) | Toxicity 0.10239842 | tps/fps: 0/0

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4:26 AM

Previously, SO had a more thorough "guided mode" ask-a-question wizard, though now it ended with more subtle guidance on the right-side globally. — Andrew T. 59 secs ago

#3999 Andrew T. (179 rep) | A: How to encourage questions to actually focus on the 'interacting' part of Interpersonal Skills? (score: 1) | posted 16 days ago by Ael (16591 rep) | Toxicity 0.03325066 | tps/fps: 0/0

@EmC just a small remark, but are you considering to lower the rep threshold for meta participation to 1 so that everyone can use the sandbox? (though currently it's bugged) — Andrew T. 6 secs ago

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6:56 AM

I’m voting to close this question because as per our help center, questions asking us whether something is reasonable, rude, racist etc. are off-topic. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on that, and this site is for questions and answers, not polling others opinions or brainstorming. Take a look at this post and it's answers to see what direction a good question could take. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago

#26480 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 2 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.24144706 | tps/fps: 0/0

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7:39 AM

This is a great question and something that has irritated me about TV/Films for more than a decade. It just ruins the integrity of the scene imo. I have come to believe over the years that this has evolved as a part of making TV / Films, and that they believe that act of saying 'bye' is too mundane, and so by instead just hanging up, they believe that this adds some element of 'things left unsaid'; a sort of tension / emotionality to the scene. In reality, it's just nonsense and looks daft when you compare it to reality - once you see it, you can't unsee it and it always looks ridiculous. — YorSubs 2 mins ago

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7:52 AM

Hi @Tinkeringbell, I think you might have misunderstood stood my use of 'reasonable'. I was not asking whether this is right, wrong, rude or racist; I was asking about reasonableness as it relates to understanding the interaction and the etiquette of asking for help. — WithRegards 2 mins ago

#26480 WithRegards (1 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 3 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.40320995 | tps/fps: 0/0

I don't see how that differs? You're asking whether something is reasonable, which is similar to asking whether something is right, wrong, rude, or racist. In short, you're asking us whether there is an issue, which the help center states is off-topic. A lot of people misinterpret 'understanding the interaction' as a free for all to just ask 'what did she mean' (which we can't answer, we can't mind-read, and again, asking whether or not there is a problem is off-topic) 1/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 30 secs ago

#26480 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 3 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.4283966 | tps/fps: 0/0

Understanding interactions means as much as asking 'why is a good handshake important', which can be answered with preferably social science, not asking us whether or not it's reasonable to expect a certain way of handshaking (that, again, is asking us to judge, which is off-topic). 2/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

#26480 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 3 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.08842487 | tps/fps: 0/0

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8:34 AM

Hi @Tinkeringbell, I can see how it could be confusing in this case. Etiquette assumes there is a set of rules or customs governing accepted behaviour; by asking whether that is reasonable I am asking whether the behaviour is in line with those rules/customs that govern asking for help, not whether the behaviour is morally right or wrong. — WithRegards 2 mins ago

#26480 WithRegards (1 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 4 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.02836995 | tps/fps: 0/0

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9:17 AM

Still, this site is not here to judge whether someone else's behavior is in line with rules of etiquette, that's simply not what the site is for. I don't know how many ways I can/need to put that: We're not here to put out a verdict on someone else's behavior, whether that's about morality or the letter of the rules. What problem are you trying to solve by asking us to do so? You already know sharing would be academic misconduct... — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago

#26480 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 4 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.1128374 | tps/fps: 0/0

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10:33 AM

Hey there, welcome to IPS! Could you tell use if you are indeed from the USA? — Ael 13 secs ago

#26479 Ael (16591 rep) | A: Is it customary in the US not to say "bye" after a phone call? (score: -2) | posted 6 hours ago by my french is poor (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.057022955 | tps/fps: 0/0

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12:55 PM

Hi @Tinkeringbell, I have a general picture of your understanding and on that basis, I cannot see this discussion progressing further. Releasing the need to be right can lead to more productive discussions and may be of value to you in the future. — WithRegards 2 mins ago

#26480 WithRegards (1 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 8 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.063179485 | tps/fps: 0/0

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1:45 PM

"Releasing the need to be right can lead to more productive discussions and may be of value to you in the future" Same to you! o/ — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

#26480 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 9 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.12455644 | tps/fps: 0/0

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2:37 PM

If you feel you have explained the issue to us, can you use the same words with tutors? The beauty of individual tutoring is that the pace is easily adjustable, but you have to speak up plainly. — Yosef Baskin 2 mins ago

#26476 Yosef Baskin (313 rep) | Q: How do I tell a teacher, in a private lesson, that he or she tells me to do something that is not exactly what I need in the present moment? (score: 0) | posted 27 hours ago by Hank (109 rep) | Toxicity 0.033579845 | tps/fps: 0/0

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3:11 PM

Hey YorSubs! It seems you're quite busy 'discussing' how movies treat phone conversations, while this is a site about Interpersonal Skills. As such, both the question and the answers should focus on interpersonal skills and interactions, and not as much on the movies. If I were to edit your post, all that's left is the sentence "However, as we all know, in almost 100% of situations, people do say 'bye' at the end of a phone call, and it would be almost unthinkable not to ", which is a duplicate of the first posted answer. 1/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 17 secs ago

I completely disagree, but I believe that you are entitled to your opinion. I believe that interpersonal skills are affected by the misrepresentation of reality in films, and I think that's worth digging into when looking at interpersonal skills. — YorSubs 1 min ago

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As we try to avoid having duplicate answers, it's probably better for this post to either be substantially edited (focus on the interpersonal skills only and not repeat the first answer) or deleted. I am sorry you encountered this post on the HNQ list and realize you just wanted to help out, it was not a good post to be on there as it's definitely one of those questions where the details and talk about movies distracts from the actual topic of the site (the behavior people use to interact well with others). 2/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago

Also: why are you not writing this comment on the many other answers here which discuss the realism of film. Why are you focusing on mine? I see at least 5 or 6 other answers that you could post this tirade on, but only against me? I'm curious about the interpersonal skills in play from you in that regard? — YorSubs 49 secs ago

Please read the first meta post I linked you! On a good subjective site, what you 'believe' doesn't matter, and answers should stick to the question asked, not discuss matters tangential to the question (see the section on 'the larger picture') Like I said, this should've never ended up in HNQ and gave you the impression that such behavior was okay, but all I can do now is try to clean up the mess it left one answer at a time... — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

As I also don't see a way to edit this and it's answers to be more in line and focus on the interaction, it's better off closed. I'm sorry, we tried! If anyone wants to take this to Interpersonal Skills Meta and discuss a possible way to edit this and its answers into a shape where it can be representative of our site and reopened, please feel free! — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago

"I believe that interpersonal skills are affected by the misrepresentation of reality in films, and I think that's worth digging into when looking at interpersonal skills." -> I really think you're on something that's worth digging here, and I'd love reading more about that. Do you think you could edit/expand and clarify/add more details ? — OldPadawan 1 min ago

I’m voting to close this question because it is a great example of what Shog describes here, under 'the larger picture'. This question is inviting more discussion about movies in answers than having people focus on interpersonal skills (behavior used to interact well with others) and etiquette. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

@OldPadawan and YorSubs please do so in Interpersonal Skills Chat then! — Tinkeringbell ♦ 11 secs ago

Literally every answer on here discusses matter tangential to the question - please, go and look. Literally every one. No offence, but honestly, I don't think you need to worry about this. Why not just let people talk? Where is the offence exactly? Why do you feel that you need to clean everything up. People should be allowed to explore ideas (even if we stray a little). You don't need to clean anything up. You see that, right? — YorSubs 1 min ago

@YorSubs No, I don't see things that way, and I honestly think you might want to take a few breaths before we continue talking, as you're coming across as quite agitated right now. Which may be understandable, but it will only make explaining this site and it's quality guidelines to you harder for me if you're agitated and as such missing half the information I put out there for you. Please come find me in Interpersonal Skills Chat when you're ready. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

I'm completely relaxed, and this is the point that I'm making to you. a) what you are saying to me applies to at least 6 other answers on here (but you go at me in a very full on way, which I'm extremely curious about?), and b) I don't know why you seem so agitated that you are getting upset about a slight amount of straying. Don't you think that the act of discussing ideas also involves a little pleasant straying? I'm just saying that your idea of "right" seems a little ... "hyper-rigid"? I just don't get why you are so offended. Can you tell why you are offended here? — YorSubs 2 mins ago

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Let us continue this discussion in chat. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

To get this back into shape, it would help if you could edit your answer to get rid of the list of fun movie facts (I liked reading them, but they have to go, sadly) and just state that the movies are wrong, people do say goodbye or thanks depending on the context of the call. 2/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 39 secs ago

#26477 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | A: Is it customary in the US not to say "bye" after a phone call? (score: 11) | posted 24 hours ago by baldPrussian (30719 rep) | Toxicity 0.07050364 | tps/fps: 0/0

Hi baldPrussian! Just a gentle reminder: Questions and answers on this site should focus on the interpersonal interaction, not really on discussing all the weird things movies do ;) I've closed the question for now because it was attracting quite a few (duplicate) answers focusing on the movies, which isn't really good for this site. 1/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago

#26477 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | A: Is it customary in the US not to say "bye" after a phone call? (score: 11) | posted 24 hours ago by baldPrussian (30719 rep) | Toxicity 0.10006316 | tps/fps: 0/0

If I were to edit your post, all that's left is the last paragraph, which is a duplicate of the first posted answer. As such, your answer was flagged and might end up being reviewed for deletion in the queue. I'm sorry, this wasn't a good post to show off in the HNQ and introduce people to our site, but I hope the explanations make sense. 2/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 1 min ago

#26481 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | A: Is it customary in the US not to say "bye" after a phone call? (score: 0) | posted 10 hours ago by Joel Keene (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.122214176 | tps/fps: 0/0

Hey Joel, welcome to IPS! It seems you're quite busy 'discussing' how movies treat phone conversations, while this is a site about Interpersonal Skills. As such, both the question and the answers should focus on interpersonal skills and interactions, and not as much on the movies. 1/2 — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

#26481 Tinkeringbell (31398 rep) | A: Is it customary in the US not to say "bye" after a phone call? (score: 0) | posted 10 hours ago by Joel Keene (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.10623864 | tps/fps: 0/0

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6:22 PM

Would you act differently if she was a friend? I'd be against cheating with someone I know and others, too. I have used, "I may have misspoken. I am not sending my quiz answers." — Yosef Baskin 1 min ago

#26480 Yosef Baskin (313 rep) | Q: Being asked to share (assignment-like) solutions (score: -1) | posted 13 hours ago by WithRegards (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.1660646 | tps/fps: 0/0

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9:18 PM

You could always attend and leave early — B.J. A.A. 1 min ago

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10:09 PM

Stated directly that the right thing to do would be to be transparent with the lagging friend, and asked a few times if we could simply wait. The reasons given by one person boil down to impatience, and the other person isn’t communicative anymore with the lagging person, I’m guessing because she didn’t like being told no. — Austin Conlon 1 min ago

#26403 Austin Conlon (301 rep) | Q: Is there anything I can do to resolve conflict from a friend group trying to coordinate watching a multi-season show together? (score: -1) | posted 16 days ago by Austin Conlon (301 rep) | Toxicity 0.124105364 | tps/fps: 0/0

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