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1:27 AM
@Feeds That's unsettling ;)
@John any idea who's handling comment flags at the moment?
Just had two that I flagged for attempting to answer in the comments section declined, just seemed a little odd.
 
1:52 AM
@apaul I think that was me. Was it the commets where you said it was attempting to answer in comments?
 
@John ya, a two part comment.
 
@apaul I take it you want to discuss it. If so, please provide a link to the post.
 
I would say that in the US, a full legal name that includes a middle name not normally used is considered PII. The organization can require it, however they are also responsible for its proper usage and control. I wonder if it is really needed in routine documentation. An appropriate official can check the information against a persons DL to prove identity, without making it public. — user3169 2 days ago
Oops didn't expect it to quote like that.
 
OK give me a second.
The commenter is merely saying that there are legal ramifications to their organizations policy. It says nothing about an IPS suggested solution. They are just tyring to add good content to the post -- but it would be inappropriate as a post.
 
@John I guess I can see that, kinda borderline, but I see where you're coming from.
@John Sorry to poke you about it, "declined" doesn't offer a whole lot of explanation sometimes.
 
2:04 AM
@apaul There is A LOT of bordreline stuff on this site. I appreaciate that there are people like you and others that are keeping the heartbeat going. Thanks.
@apaul Point taken. I need to add more finesse here. Thanks for the constructive feedback.
 
@John "It's all chaos, it's all random, and it's horrifying, and if you want to try and reduce the horror, and reduce the chaos, be kind. That's all you can do."
 
@apaul Well said.
 
@John just saying it's a borderline subject.
@John Really didn't mean to give you hassle, just didn't get it initially.
 
@apaul No hassle AT ALL. I am thankful that there users like you (and others). Feel free to ping me with whatever is on your mind.
 
2:37 AM
@John Actually there is one thing that's been bugging me a bit. Not sure if you'd be willing to nudge someone about this, but the lack of response is troubling... meta.stackexchange.com/questions/302410/…
 
 
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4:20 AM
@apaul It definitely appears that the information they already gave is all they are interested in giving. I do not see the point to try to further this along. I'm pretty sure that my status as a temporaray mod on one site will not help this cause one bit.
 
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Q: How can I resolve this situation concerning my cat?

JS LavertuA bit of background: I've had my cat for the past 13 years and it is very important to me. The cat used to live at my parents place. Recently, my parents took a 4 month vacation and I took the cat to my appartment. My roommates tolerate it well enough, but it is slightly irritating to them as th...

 
4:39 AM
@John if you're not concerned that's fair. Just figured you would have the ear of the CMs...
@John Just seems like they've been really open about how suicide prevention posts are handled and less so with abuse disclosures. Admittedly I'm a little worried because some of the staff seem really great at dealing with people who are in crisis, but some can come across as a little ham fisted at times. I guess knowing who I was passing these situations to, and how they handled them would ease some fears.
 
 
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6:26 AM
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Q: Autistic, disabled and bullied by a minor

WellnowwhatI'm female in my late 50's live alone in the same apartment building in Southern California for 10 years, on the autism spectrum and now, physically disabled. Everyone living here is likely younger and they've seen me using aids to walk. They all seem to know I'm the one who calls the City when t...

 
 
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7:27 AM
@ExtrovertedMainMan Hmm, I don't think this can be solved using IPS. Not necessarily because of the broader topic, but rather because this example is so soured that I don't think any amount of IPS would be sufficient.
 
7:43 AM
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Q: Angry at me for not coming over

CoffeineConverterI have a girl i have met 2 weeks ago. We understand each other very well and like each other. For the past 4 days she was away in her hometown, and came back yesterday evening. During that time i had a terrible sore throat, constant caughing to the point i coulnd sleep and i thought it would go a...

 
@apaul Indeed it is... what am I supposed to do? :P
 
A J
7:59 AM
Afternoon
 
@AJ Morning
 
8:19 AM
interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/5995/… --> this reads very much like a rant, and somehow I can't really think this is serious either??? How do you recognize a 'real' troll?
 
@Tinkeringbell doesn't really matter tbh
it's off topic either way
 
@JarkoDubbeldam Trolls should be flagged :) Bad questions not
 
Don't bother flagging, I think. Just VTC. I doubt that this is provably a troll.
 
@Mithrandir kay!
What does a room-owner have to do... Someone named feed made me owner of this room, and the help section doesn't even mention what that means and what I should do!
 
Essentially, nothing
But hang on a sec, I'll pull something up
 
8:29 AM
@Mithrandir Nothing is good enough for me ;)
 
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A: A guide to moderating chat

bluefeetWhat tools are available to room owners? Room owners are users that have some elevated permissions in a chatroom. Typically, they will be the first line of defense when it comes to inappropriate content or behavior in a room. Users will look to the room owners to guide the room. The room owners...

 
@Mithrandir Thank you! :)
 
8:42 AM
Do we already have a trash can?
 
There are some universal trashcans
 
1 message moved to trash
Yay :)
Now, are you willing to be guinea pig to test kick-muting with me as well ? :P
 
A J
@Tinkeringbell Congratulations.
 
@AJ huh?
 
A J
You are now RO of this room
 
8:49 AM
@AJ Oh, it was an abbreviation ;)
Thank you!
At least you're happier about it than @apaul :P
7 hours ago, by apaul
@Feeds That's unsettling ;)
 
Note the ;)
 
@JarkoDubbeldam Note the :P
Pfft... still on a train... a cold train :(
I should already be at the office with two cups of hot coffee :P
 
@Mithrandir Haha well, have fun there ;-)
For a trash can, there's some pretty interesting stuff in there :P
 
@Tinkeringbell ugh, today I had to stand :(
 
9:03 AM
@JarkoDubbeldam I almost never have to on this route...
 
Was a broken train before ours, so basically there were double the normal amount of passengers
 
That's one pro.
But they always turn the airco up so much, that my feet are freezing off.
 
Was a first for me since alooong time too
 
@JarkoDubbeldam What train were you on?
 
from TheHague to Groningen
between Gouda and Utrecht
 
9:04 AM
I've had a train that was very full this morning as well --> seinstoring between Amersfoort and Utrecht
 
When we arrived, the platform was completely filled as well
yeah I heard
 
@JarkoDubbeldam I hate those.... people keep trying to get in while there is no room, and delaying the train
 
meh, didn't care, and was glad to be able to breathe again
 
But I'm finally in Eindhoven, after 3 hours and 5 minutes :P
 
9:05 AM
I'm off to take the bus, for another 20 minutes. Once I've had my coffee or tea, I'll be back online :P
make it 3 hours and 10... we're stuck just in front of the station, our platform isn't free yet
 
:L
Ayyy, got pundit badge :D
 
9:52 AM
@JarkoDubbeldam Congratulations :)
 
 
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10:57 AM
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Q: How to deal with someone who seemingly only asks you loaded/leading questions in casual situations?

JakeGouldThe subject says it all: There is no one specific incident I can summarize, but in general I have had encounters with people who endlessly ask loaded/leading questions and statements that are simply uncomfortable to respond to. Questions such as: “Who wouldn’t like that?” “Who could say no?” “I...

 
11:16 AM
@Mithrandir You make me feel better by saying that.
 
Why?
 
Oh sorry wrong room.
 
11:52 AM
@HenryWHHackv2.1 What? Why would you prefer I did nothing?
 
@HenryWHHackv2.1 Mithrandir made that reply 'essentially nothing' when I asked what I should do as the new owner of this room....
So why would you prefer I did nothing with the privileges that come with being a room owner? :)
 
I didn't say that.
 
@HenryWHHackv2.1 Ah... than I got the implications wrong ;) Replying with "You make me feel better by saying that" sort of sounded to me like you would like me to do nothing ;)
 
 
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2:20 PM
@Tinkeringbell Just joking around about the RO thing :P
 
@apaul I know ;) Just joking back :P
Everything you say can and WILL be used against you :P
 
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Q: When someone states a view I don't agree with, and asks for confirmation, how to avoid giving it without triggering a debate?

vszThere are many people who, after stating their political, religious or ideological view, or an opinion in a debated or controversial topic, explicitly ask for confirmation. For example, "Am I right?", "Isn't it so?" Assuming it's not done in bad faith to provoke a debate, but it just occurs na...

 
2:42 PM
@Tinkeringbell Not the first time I've heard that ;)
 
@apaul Oh darn... Forgot that.. Maybe I shouldn't joke about it? (For me, it's just a thing my mom shouts whenever I say something that can be used at a future wedding to embarrass me ;) )
 
@Tinkeringbell still just joking, don't worry about it.
 
@apaul Kay ;) Just nice to have that black on white ;)
 
 
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4:11 PM
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Q: How can I convince a friend to not bribe to get an award?

XanderA friend of mine has been nominated for a rather prestigious award in his field and it seems that this year all contenders decided it would be a good idea to send "gifts" to the judges. The stakes are higher this year since the award has a research grand attached to it. His wife had made extensi...

 
4:56 PM
@apaul Is there a reason you don't just talk with your coworkers and decide as a group to refuse to work until the safety requirements are met?
 
@Catija Are you suggesting a full strike?
 
That's sort of one of the reasons they exist... I'm not judging the close reason but, like the Vegans question, sometimes you have to go up the chain or do something else that requires their response other than trying to have a reasonable discussion with someone.
 
@Catija We've already decided to refuse to do the stupidly dangerous things. Unfortunately there are days/times where the supervisor is the only one on shift, so he starts the dangerous activity on his own and then we get stuck dealing with the aftermath when we come in on the next shift.
 
I'm actually surprised that the workplace doesn't have a strike tag :o
 
@JarkoDubbeldam It kinda looks like The Workplace leans toward white collar and management work...
 
5:02 PM
true dat
 
@apaul You say that you've talked to the people above your immediate supervisor... have you talked to them again?
 
a good indicator of that is the fact that 50%+ of the answers there is 'quit and find another job'
 
@Catija She was at an industry conference last week. I'm planning on talking to her again on Wednesday after the Holiday break.
@JarkoDubbeldam Yup
 
Holiday break? For Halloween?
 
@Catija Sort of. No customers, so no work.
 
5:05 PM
@apaul What do you do, anyway? (obviously, you don't have to answer...)
 
@JarkoDubbeldam Also there are only 13 questions tagged "Union" 7 of which are closed.
 
rip
I guess it's not that surprising, given the big pull of SO
 
@Catija Eh... It's a sort of Jerk of All Trades job. But if I said anything more specific it would be really easy to figure out exactly where I work, because it's uncommon and niche.
 
Fair enough.
 
@Catija It's one of the things I worry about while participating on this site. To ask and answer here you end up leaving a lot of personal breadcrumbs... I guess it's not a huge deal, but it is a concern at times.
 
5:16 PM
... Yeah. I have a lot of them... but I'm not that covert, anyway. I respect that not everyone shares my degree of openness.
 
yeah I agree
esp on a few of the autism topics and here in chat ive opened up quite a lot
 
@Catija I honestly wish I didn't need to be as covert. I've been thinking about making some changes in to my real life circumstances to make that less of an issue. Not being fully comfortable being open kinda sucks.
 
Does some of it relate to the mingling of your personal and public/work life that happens here?
There are things you share here that aren't known at your work?
 
@Catija Yup. Well, some friends I work with know me a little better, but most people don't.
 
@apaul I'm not personally in that position but I can commiserate with you. I hope that at some point in the near future you're able to be yourself everywhere and not have to hide :)
 
5:30 PM
@Catija Thanks. The world is slowly getting better about things, so I'm hoping it'll go well. I know I won't get fired or anything, but I know some of the older folks I work with are a little behind the curve.
 
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Q: Questionable custom close reason

apaulOne of my questions was just closed with a somewhat questionable custom close reason: I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it sounds like you've spoken to him about it a few times already, at which point it's no longer a Interpersonal Skills issue (of how to discuss it w...

 
@IntrovertedMetaMan. Wow, almost an hour late Meta Man, did you forget your coffee today?
 
 
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6:44 PM
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Q: How to handle when someone uninvited inserts themself into a conversation and takes over?

anongoodnurseMy partner and I were in a very casual restaurant (self seating, buffet style) with another couple who we were still getting to know. As we were about to eat, a good friend of the couple (but unknown to us) came over, and without excusing himself for interrupting or even so much as a glance in ou...

 
7:30 PM
@Catija Ya... Sorry 'bout that. Just trying to help.
 
@apaul No worries.
@Xander If you have a concern, please let me know. I hadn't seen anongoodnurse's comment on your question as I'd just come back from lunch. Her comment has been removed. Regardless of that, what I said still stands. Please don't escalate interactions with people.
 
@Catija I shouldn't have posted on her post but honestly her interactions towards me have been uncivil at best. I didn't flag all her posts but this has been going on since I joined. As long as I don't question her "profession", I would rather appreciate it if she got off my back.
 
If you don't flag things, we're unlikely to see them and act on it. If you have a concern of being targeted, please, use a custom flag and tell us about it.
 
I didn't expect that would be a thing in a IPS forum of all places... but this comment was kinda the straw that broke the camel's back.
 
@Xander Can I ask you a question? A lot of your questions are focused on what would be called 'meddling with/in other peoples affairs' where I'm from. Where are you from? Is this a cultural difference --> Is it a normal thing to do where you're from?
 
7:38 PM
@Xander I'm not sure if you saw the comment before it got deleted, but it might be better if you two worked this issue out in a private chat.
 
You'll find (in here and around the network) that the users on a site are usually a combination of people who need help and people who can help. Expecting everyone on an IPS site to have good IPS seems a bit... odd... otherwise we wouldn't have anyone asking questions ;) And, regardless, even people who are good at IPS, doesn't mean that they're always perfect at it. :D
 
@Catija I'm pretty sure most of us started out here because we're pretty bad at IPS ;)
 
As far as I know, we don't have any "IPS Experts" here. I'm not even sure who would fit that description... We have a mix. As a moderator, I do my best to cull out the noise and the comments that shouldn't be around. We delete a lot of comments here and I have no problems deleting more of them.
 
@Catija My experience so far is 4-5 standard users asking and replying to the same 4-5 users. I know this SE is in beta and want to keep it going but it looks a bit like a clique.
 
@Xander I don't really care who says shitty stuff. If they do it repeatedly, I want to know about it, whether it's apaul or you or another mod. I have very a very low tolerance for it, particularly in comments.
 
7:42 PM
@apaul I'd be happy to discuss it because I joined to help where I can. My questions might sound silly to some but even if you're the psychologist/psychiatrist around, you could have issues with using those skills on your personal life.
 
@Catija I think there are people that are 'experts' --> I've had 2 or 3 people coach my IPS and I think they qualify. Not sure they hang around though
 
@Xander I don't even know what your line of work is... to be honest. I don't have much time to read stuff that isn't flagged (which is why I stress that you should flag stuff that bothers you)... We're not paid to be here as mods, we do it in our spare time.
 
@Tinkeringbell Even that question seems a bit aggressive and judgmental to me. Maybe I'm too sensitive
 
@Xander Nah, I'm just asking... I want to know before I write another 'Don't do that' :)...
 
@Xander We all have our blind spots. It's completely understandable that a professional of any stripe would have theirs.
 
7:45 PM
@Tinkeringbell I don't see it as a cultural thing. Wouldn't you advise a close friend of yours not to go through with something? I find it important in any honest relationship - esp childhood friends that you interact with on a daily basis.
 
I'm not going to say you're too sensitive... but I'm not always able to walk on eggshells, sometimes I just want to know and I like to ask in a very direct way, so as to make it as clear as possible what I'm getting at --> I know Dutch people are known for being very direct and that this is not always 'appreciated' - for lack of a better word - by others
Yes and No --> I would say that I didn't think it a good idea once the topic was brought up... I'm not the 'jump in and save the day' kind of person ;)

Most of my IPS counseling focused on when to talk and when to shut up, so it might have something to do with that :)
 
Any input is appreciated but possibly that's a flaw, not knowing when to shut up :)
 
@Tinkeringbell *Avoiding obvious jokes... ;P
 
@Xander There's a difference between telling someone what you think they should and shouldn't do and actively working to change or invalidate their choices. We're pretty careful about the latter here. You can affect your own actions but, ultimately, you can only advise people on theirs.
 
@Xander Meh, I'll leave this one alone ;) Although it might be good to include Wouldn't you advise a close friend of yours not to go through with something? I find it important in any honest relationship - esp childhood friends that you interact with on a daily basis. this somehow in the question, it gives a nice insight into where you're coming from and why you want to do this ;)
@apaul Feel free, I always jump on making those because I'm bad at making the more subtle ones :P
 
7:50 PM
@Catija At the end of the day, it's an opinion. You can either consider it or dismiss it. But I would like to offer it anyway.
 
@Xander But what would you expect in an answer to your question about awards? Not so much what the answer should be but what a good answer would tell you?
 
@Tinkeringbell "Most of my IPS counseling focused on when to talk and when to shut up" Just thinking that you don't come across as someone who holds back all that often ;) Purely joking here, no offense intended.
 
@apaul Hah, if only you knew :P
 
@Catija That's the conundrum honestly.
 
I'm very, very, very glad that no-one is able to read thoughts ;)
 
7:53 PM
@Tinkeringbell I tend to have the same problem/feeling ;) Honestly I tend to prefer outspoken people.
 
@apaul Most people do, but it's all about 'how' ;)
 
@Xander But that may be part of the problem with the question. We can't tell you what to do, we can tell you how to do what you want to do. We need some guidance. We're not really here to give you the arguments for your discussion, we're here to help you decide how to have it.
 
@Catija Perhaps, you're right. Maybe this is not a question fit for this SE
@Catija I'll see how it pans out over the next few hours and possibly remove it
 
@Xander It has an answer with upvotes, so you won't be able to remove it. Sorry.
If you can edit in some more explanation, that may help.
 
@Catija Alright thanks. I will work on it a bit more a bit later to try to point it in the right direction.
 
8:03 PM
@Xander cc @anongoodnurse I'm not sure how familiar you are with the chat system, but you can use a user's chat profile page to invite them to a chatroom. chat.stackexchange.com/users/101493/anongoodnurse and: chat.stackexchange.com/users/310545/xander
 
@apaul Don't you just love crickets, too bad they're not due back for a while :/
 
@Xander I'm not seeing the craze.... They make noise at night, when things are supposed to be silent so you can sleep ;)
 
@Xander They're still chirping away down here. We've just started getting slightly cooler days. It was meant to be a joke about the room falling awkwardly silent though.
 
@apaul I have an excuse :P
 
@apaul I know :)
 
8:18 PM
@apaul Um... we named the room that for a reason ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Excuses excuses psh.
 
@apaul Little bro always barges into my bedroom before he goes to sleep :P Had to show him some pics a co-worker showed me today...
 
@Tinkeringbell ...that sounds... erm...
 
@apaul For me crickets mean summer, lying at a beach somewhere.. and it's 4C outside...
 
@Mithrandir If you want to, you can google it. It's very weird to see, and gross... 'otocephaly' --> it's a bodily malformation.
@Xander Only 4C in summer? Brrrrr :P
 
8:21 PM
@Tinkeringbell yuck
no lower jaw??
 
@Mithrandir right.... and ears where a lower jaw should be... :S
 
That's actually interesting
 
@Xander I'm pretty far south, down in Florida. It dropped into the mid 60f and people went out bundled up in jackets.
 
It is, but it requires a pretty strong stomach to look at ;)
@apaul Duh.... jackets are portable blankets! Who doesn't like those? :P
 
@Tinkeringbell Just makes me laugh every year. Like it's finally not sweltering hot and people complain.
 
8:24 PM
@apaul I lived in Tampa for 2 years. I prefer my cold-ass Switzerland any day...
 
@apaul I also complain when it's hot ;) I'm an all-round complainer :P
 
Opinionated IPS question: Is it weird to look at someone's twitter feed manually rather than following them?
 
nope
 
@Mithrandir You stalk the CM room, so I don't know that I trust your opinion ;)
 
@Catija Depends. Are you stalking your ex, or or former crush?
 
8:25 PM
@Catija Don't think so... but it is creepy to realise that you can, without me knowing :P
 
@apaul I don't really have any exes...
 
@Catija Wow? How? What?
 
@apaul Highschool sweethearts? Happily ever after? :)
 
@Tinkeringbell Huh. That's sweet. Didn't think that still happened.
 
@apaul It's very rare I guess... my best friend found it (so far :P ) though
 
8:28 PM
@apaul What? I'm an unpopular person. I don't even have many friends... so I consider you all crazies the closest I've got. I've only ever seriously dated one other person and I was the one who ended that relationship so... yeah.
@Tinkeringbell Nope. My husband and I met 11 years ago (Thursday)... but we grew up in different places entirely. I never had a boyfriend until I was 19?
 
@Catija So you have 1 ex, sort of, but not someone you're likely to stalk. I was more jokingly remembering that boy from 2nd grade you found on FB a while back.
 
@Catija Well, 19 is early :P I'm 26, and I've dated maybe 2 guys, but never to the 'boyfriend' phase
 
*quietly sidles away*
 
@apaul Second grade? No. Maybe you're confusing me with someone? I had a crush from fifth grade and then high school (same person) but we're actually "friends" on FB, so no stalking there.
 
@Mithrandir Too awkward for you?
 
8:31 PM
@Mithrandir Nah, stay. You might 'learn' something :P
 
@Catija Hold up... I'll check the transcript.
@Catija Ah yes. It was 5th grade, didn't realize it was someone you were still friends with lol
 
@apaul Can I talk again????
You done holding everything up? :P
 
@Catija Should I post a link, or... ?
 
@apaul Well, I'm glad that I remembered my own past correctly
No, I know what you're talking about.
Note, "friends" in quotes...
 
@Tinkeringbell Never!
 
8:36 PM
@apaul :(
I'm bored.....
Keep me entertained then, while holding things up :P
 
@Catija I saw that, just figured that I'd poke you about it.
@Tinkeringbell You can do what you want. Just messing around.
 
@apaul Have I ever not done 'just what I want?' :P I'm also just messing around...
 
@Tinkeringbell Just thought I should make that "black on white" ;P
 
Feel free ;) It certainly helps :P
 
@Catija so who are you stalking then?
 
8:41 PM
@apaul Not you ;) HA HA... Honestly, probably someone I should just follow. It's a SE related account, so it's not that I don't actually interact with them.
 
@Catija I'm not really sure how the etiquette works for social media. I would guess that if it's SE related, they're used to being followed by people they know from the network.
 
i'm curious who now
 
Part of my hesitation is that my twitter account isn't "Catija"... someone took it and is sitting on it (no posts) so it's my actual name account.
 
@Mithrandir I'll second that.
 
/me has already found your Twitter account o_o
(don't worry, I'm not revealing it here)
 
8:45 PM
@Catija That's understandable. Privacy n' all.
 
@Mithrandir Yeah, well, I haven't hidden my real name in the TL.
No, see, now if I cop to it it makes it look even weirder why I didn't just follow them in the first place. I'm now stuck because I asked about it in here.
 
@Catija Your secret is safe-ish with us ;)
I mean there will be jokes, but nothing too bad. Right?
 
@apaul Well, if it gets too bad, I can freeze the whole room ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Party pooper :P
 
you can freeze?
I thought you could just timeout it
 
8:50 PM
And blues are immune regardless.
 
@Mithrandir That's what I meant... I'm still new to this! :P
 
yeah, freezing is something else ;)
 
@Mithrandir I know.... ;)
I'm doing it right now :P
 
@apaul Nah, it's really just any of the CMs. I haven't really followed people on twitter because I use it really rarely.
It's cute how bluefeet is currently "BOOfeet". :D
 
@Catija Then don't follow... I have a twitter as well, only using it to complain + stalk one local news photographer...
Perfectly normal thing I'd say ;)
 
8:52 PM
@Catija From what little I've seen of twitter, it looks like a dumpster fire. Like only slightly better than the comment section under youtube videos.
@Tinkeringbell Mhmm...
 
Btw.... I've got my help vampire in trouble it seems... :(
 
oh?
 
She was bothering me at the coffee machine today (again), and I sort-of lost my temper... (didn't think thrice).
So I told her something like 'Look, I already know you've got a mentor, you should be asking him these things. If you don't he'll get a false impression of your knowledge. You're not making friends bothering me with these things over and over again'
Turns out her manager was within earshot :/
 
@Tinkeringbell Sorry, not sorry?
 
@apaul Yeah, but I sort of am.... I haven't got a cricket for conscience, God gave me an elephant to deal with.... :(
Manager even asked me 'does she bother you often? Sounds like you're no fan of her'...
And then the conscience kicked in.
 
9:00 PM
@Tinkeringbell Just saying it's probably for the best. She'll probably get a slap on the wrist and then things will settle down. And your vamp will have been staked, so... There's that at least.
 
@apaul Hope so....
Only thing to do is wait... I hate waiting!
 
@Tinkeringbell Patience is a virtue.
 
@Tinkeringbell Oops... what did you say? Did you minimize it or come clean?
 
@apaul I know.... Doesn't mean I have to like it....
@Catija I stuttered and mumbled something like 'yeah, sometimes', got my coffee and ran
 
^something I used to shout at impatient servers when I was a short order cook ;)
 
9:03 PM
@apaul Yeah but cooks are allowed to do that ;) A certain Mr. Ramsay pops into my mind :P I don't like my food cold, and you've put so much trouble into it!
 
@Tinkeringbell Eh, short-order is a world away from Ramsay. Not a whole lot of effort in pancakes and waffles.
 
@apaul They're a lot tastier though
 
@Tinkeringbell True
 
@apaul My mom actually cooked stewed pears for me this evening.... I'm the reason we're eating haricots verts at christmas and not stewed pears -> She's getting old :P
Have you ever had those? Or are they 'Dutch'?
 
haricots verts?
 
9:08 PM
Long, green, bean?
it's haricot verts... sorry
 
They're just called "green beans" or "string beans" in the US.
 
@Catija Nope, read the article, these are tastier ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Ah, we tend to call them "French"
 
They're sort of the default. We do have some "French" green beans, which are narrower... not hugely different, though.
 
@Catija Taste them! ;)
But yeah, French green beans or American green beans, that's what the article states as well ;)
The 'regular' ones are called sperziebonen in Dutch
 
9:11 PM
I have. I'm not really a fan of green beans in general. They're the default at nearly every restaurant here and they're usually done poorly. If I make them at home they're good but... it's a bit annoying that they're so difficult for a restaurant to do correctly.
 
@Catija Oh that... yeah, overcooked they get rubbery
 
@Catija They're not something that holds well.
 
I'm not generally a fan of limp, wet vegetables...
 
Or slimy... and weird grey tinged brown color...
 
@Mithrandir Oh, then you're gonna love vegetable soup :P
 
9:13 PM
@Tinkeringbell in soup it's fine, because there are spices :P
 
@Catija That sounds like they are moldy! :P
 
Basically they try to cook them in batches, keeping them hot tends to ruin them.
 
@Mithrandir if salt is a spice... I think we're talking different soups here
 
...you said vegetable soup. Vegetable soup has assorted spices in it...
I generally end up adding more pepper to my bowl though because my family has no tolerance for spice
and I happen to like peppery soup
 
@Mithrandir google.nl/… This is a 'Dutch' vegetable soup.... It's made with water, and something called a 'maggi-block' which is basically salty, and soggy vegetables
I should remember the pepper thing for next time my mom dares serve it.
 
9:16 PM
"vegetable soup" is a really broad category of soup...
 
@Tinkeringbell yuck
 
Yeah, good vegetable soup should have a nice collection of spices... at least oregano, also thyme, parsley... garlic, onion...
 
@apaul Yeah... but the thing that translates as 'vegetable soup' here is 'groentesoep'.... otherwise, it most likely called carrot soup, broccoli soup, pumpkin soup
 
my definition of 'vegetable soup' is basically assorted cut up vegetables, assorted spices, water, and a spoon & bowl
 
@Catija garlic?
 
9:17 PM
I'm half Italian... everything has garlic.
 
We never ever use garlic here... I'm suspecting somebody is a vampire ... :P
 
I like garlic bread, but not most other garlic things
 
@Mithrandir I have been cooped up with other students on internship camps a few times while in university... Lots of garlic, I didn't dislike it.
 
My ex thought I was weird cause I tend to use ground garlic like most people use table salt.
 
9:19 PM
and I particularly dislike wasabi, and I enjoy jalapenos
 
@apaul Really? That was the 'weird' thing? Not the mohawk? :P
 
@peufeu Do they taste significantly different? Or just purple?
@Tinkeringbell She thought the mohawk was sexy ;)
 
@apaul Uhuh.... I'm declaring her 'weird' :P
And before I get too hungry to sleep with all this talk of food: Night all! ;)
 
Night!
 
@apaul after cooking the violet fades to normal green, but they taste great, much better than normal grene beans. I planted them this year, they grew 3 meter tall...
 
9:21 PM
@Tinkeringbell Ya, she was a little bit.
@peufeu Nice.
@Tinkeringbell Night
 
If there's someone who can't be described as "weird" to some degree... that's weird.
 
@Catija It's a relative term.
 
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sigh oh Meta IPS... what am I going to do with you.
carrot?
 
9:24 PM
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@Mithrandir I was thinking carrot, but didn't want to say it and be wrong.
 
@Mithrandir KBD castles are more fun ;)
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9:46 PM
what on earth
 
@JarkoDubbeldam ?
@Catija I jumped on that hand grenade... Probably shouldn't have, but it needed to be said.
 
Oh, being away for an hour, coming back to like 300 new messages, last of which is a bunch of ascii arts and a derailed metathread
 
@JarkoDubbeldam Such is IPS
 
@JarkoDubbeldam Yup.
 
9:54 PM
@apaul 100% agreed with your answer there
and good night o/
 
@JarkoDubbeldam Thanks and have a good one.
 
@apaul I think you did a nice job, actually.
 
@Catija Wow, first time for everything ;)
 
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