Ogres Are Like Onions

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Wen1now

04:46

If anybody wants any spoilers then I did make some really far up

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TheGreatEscaper

08:58

Wow, glad this old beast is still making the rounds :)

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Deusovi

16:49

re: Unconventional Guns - yeah, I don't see how to get them in a line that can be accessed by the werewolves

the line has to be horizontal, since the left and right ones are too close to the wall

(@dcfyj)

dcfyj

I'm trying to remember exactly how I did it. I know I used the two boxes so that I had the middle zombie between them vertically on the second from the left column, I just don't remember how I got them there.

Sid

@TheGreatEscaper How old is this game?

dcfyj

@Deusovi right, so you need to kill the righthand wolf right away (he'll be in your way otherwise)

Deusovi

yeah, got that

dcfyj

I can put up a screenshot of the finished level if you like

Sid

16:53

@dcfyj ^

That level

dcfyj

Ah that level

Deusovi

Oh, that one.

dcfyj

Yeah, took me a bit to figure out exactly what to do with that

Deusovi

Same here

it's similar to the one before it

Sid

I am assuming we have to somehow put the rock through the black hole

dcfyj

16:54

The key with TGE's game is to remember what you've done in the layers so that you know what changes what.

Deusovi

Nope - if you do that, it'll fall in.

dcfyj

@Deusovi to beat level 9 you'll only need to use 4 water shots

Deusovi

I don't see how I can push that one zombie left though. If I do it with a crate, the crate will be trapped. If I do it using water, then the chain won't work

dcfyj

And remember how water interacts with the zombies

except for the final push, all zombie pushes are to the left.

Sid

Ah, so the laser changes

dcfyj

16:58

yup

Sounds like you're going to the right way to figuring it out

@Deusovi figure it out?

Deusovi

nope

I still don't see how it's possible to push one zombie left.

Here's where I am right now.

Like I said, if I use the crate, it'll be stuck, and I can't move it without dying. If I use water, then it'll break the chain.

dcfyj

go down 2

shoot left until the zombies are in a column

after that it's just crate work

Deusovi

...that still doesn't help. My only option with the crate is pushing them up two, and then it's stuck.

Plus, you said they needed to be in a line. There's no way to get them in a line from what I can see - we still have the problem of pushing one to the left column, which would get the crate stuck.

Ah, got it. They're not in a line.

dcfyj

I had just clicked upload when you posted that lol

10 is mean by the way

although 11 is worse

Deusovi

I got 10 pretty easily, actually

no idea what to do for 11

dcfyj

17:07

yeah, I'm sure you'll realize what you need to do to be it fairly quickly.

Deusovi

hm. once the crate is attached to one of the zombies, it's stuck

I see the general idea

but can't see how to make it happen with only one push (of any length)

dcfyj

It's quite possible

You're probably forgetting something though.

Sid

Huh... this is hard

Deusovi

You can't win the level zombified, can you?

dcfyj

Deusovi

17:11

Didn't think so...

Oh come on.

I just beat it. That's unfair.

dcfyj

lol I see you figured it out

As I said, you're probably forgetting something :P

Sid

... this is impossible to solve..

dcfyj

It's quite possible to solve, which one are you referring to?

Sid

the one I gave the screenshot of..

Deusovi

I still don't know what I was forgetting.

dcfyj

17:17

@Deusovi You beat 11 right?

Deusovi

Yeah.

dcfyj

@Sid The laser doesn't kill you

Deusovi

Nothing in Ogres kills you. It just sends you back to the start.

dcfyj

@Deusovi that zombies swim and that werewolves attack you too

Deusovi

No, I remembered both of those.

I just thought it was unfair that my idea didn't work for level 9, but then did work for 11.

dcfyj

17:18

lol

It didn't work for 9 because there were monster left to kill would be my guess.

Sid

apparently it does. Because if I go back to the start, then, I will have to restart to get to level 5 again.

It's not possible to go past level 3 without restarting

dcfyj

@Sid the laser doesn't kill you

Deusovi

@Sid Is it impossible?

dcfyj

It's a soft reset, the stuff you did is still done

Deusovi

Maybe you didn't solve level 3 right.

dcfyj

17:19

ah right, he didn't do what he need to do on 3

I forgot about that.

Sid

I believe so. Because I get blocked by the rock that I set up on level 3 above the hole to help me get past level 4.

dcfyj

@Sid If you're going that way to get back to level 5 then you didn't solve level 3 the correct way

Deusovi

dcfyj

On a few of the levels there are things you need to do for later (obviously you won't know what those are until you get to later)

Deusovi

Yup. That's why TGE says you might have to restart.

dcfyj

17:22

Now to figure out this level of swapbots...

Sid

Well, I need to go to level 3->level 4->level 5, right? I mean, there's no shortcuts?

dcfyj

The only "shortcut" is to level 1

@Sid Just think of a way to move stuff around on 3 that would allow to get past again later.

Sid

Got it.

n_palum

Hey @Deusovi you should try the app "There is no game"

Sid

*Slaps forehead

dcfyj

17:26

@n_palum It's also on Kongregate

n_palum

Well I presume Deus can't be on there at work

dcfyj

I actually played it there first, then I found out they made an app of it.

Deusovi

I've played it.

n_palum

Well okay then

dcfyj

@Deusovi Have you beaten this level?

Deusovi

17:28

No, don't think so. Or if I did, I've forgotten.

dcfyj

lol ok

The levels in this game are quite difficult.

The power of posting lol, Just figured it out.

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