Does anybody like TGEs puzzles?

He sent me this ages ago and I haven't worked it out yet

ogres are like onions? o_O

By TGE... he told me it was really hard

I don't get it

how do rocks in the upper level magically appear lower down

What do you mean?

I'm not sure if the rocks with gold are special or not

I was talking about the solution to this level

and looks like I'll need to understand what's going on before solving the next one

Do you want me to tell you what I know so far?

@ffao like what even is that it makes no sense

(admitedly I don't know much)

that would be nice, I'm confused

maybe send a onetimesecret to not spoil it in chat

onetimesecret.com/private/7bonw7mg63d8yhgkuuiathnbhrd57nm

Is that right?

onetimesecret.com/secret/3lrayhl5yazrmf43b0wke2bb7lp0h2s <- this one

did someone click on it? I can't see

I didn't

Okay, does anybody mind if I share what little information I have?

If the purpose is to avoid spoilers, just any indirection will suffice

indirection?

I don't know how but I have done it?

@Wen1now link

@DestructibleLemon The whole game?

no, I made a bridge

Okay, I'll post is as some kind of cipher

a link to a gist will do

Remember how I was shouted at for proposing keybase for Spyfall?

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We can talk freely here

that message you moved back belongs to here

so do gold flecks do things??

o_O

interesting thought on the red

that never occurred to me

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I think I found another thing that things do

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the no rock spaces change

no rock spaces change?

also wall blocks change

blocks change?

The single laser level is as far as I got

Oh, I think what you're talking about

@Wen1now me too thanks

Does anybody have any idea about gold blocks?

I know what the red block is now

I don't see wall blocks and no rock spaces changing...

I got it wrong

sorry

I think I got a breakthrough

Same

I know what the red block is now too, but it doesn't help me yet :P

yeah, I can't figure out how to move it once the red level is done

TGE was right about this being hard...

redrock*

@Wen1now show off

What is this?

I am completely stuck now

@Wen1now Oh!

Ooh, blue blocks are gold blocks!

I'm not even that far

The blue rocks are where the yellow ones were

Time to redo everything :(

how did you even get that far

The trick is to let yourself move the red block twice

I know for a fact that the top laser cannot be blocked

by a blue block

I know for a fact that it can! :P

oh

Must be by the... middle left block? So second from the left

Oh, the pink blocks mess up level 2!

That's why it can

hello

where are the instructions?

I found them

I'm stuck on he first stage

How do you get a stone to the blue in the first three levels?

"Ogres are like onions: they have many layers." Shrek

Time to finish this another day... man, this is so hard

I gave up a long time ago

I'm not worthy

I trust you to finish this for us, w1n

Level 2 becomes a nightmare

trust me, it was tons of fun to design

i wanted maximum 'no way' factor at the level with the blue rocks :P

Image not found? is that intentional?

the link goes to a picture of a horse, for whatever reason

Is that the last meta-level though?

I like horses

(it's a night mare)

Before I test it, does your puzzle have undo-restart functionality?

every puzzle has restart functionality, just refresh the page

but yes

You can undo steps, and you can restart the entire game.

undo-restart

So like undoing a restart

I liked the thing with the red block

undo-restart, is that a thing?

As in, undoing a walk into a red square or a lazer?

@ffao Apparently

You can undo getting sent back to the start of the game, if that's what you're asking bobo

Undoing an 'r' press I think is what @boboquack meant

yeah nope, i don't think so

r is a hard reset

I liked the thing with the red rock, but the purple rocks are one step too far

And that also explains all the oddities in all the levels

The purple (i see them as blue) rocks are the biggest meta puzzle, yeah

there's a tiny bit of something afterwards but it's more for a cute finish

Purple blocks - the ones that can only move to 5 squares

Are they 'meta'-ly or is it just a self-contained puzzle

ohhhhh those

They're just self contained, they're important for solving the blue meta

I meant is the 'tiny bit' self contained

basically yeah

you're not going to need to go back

you just reach the last layer, do the last stuff, and beat the game

BTW restart is reversible

(because I accidentally clicked the 'r' key)

Oh, okay then

I can't seem to get the top gold block level 2 to the right place

I can't seem to get the rock in level 5 to the right place :P

Yeah, that's roadblock 2/3

Hey, can you delete my second hint?

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/38265662#38265662 <-this one

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Bye bye

Bye bye

Arrgh the blue blocks/yellow/everything else is so weird

Especially level 2

Man, both things in level 2 are so hard to do

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This whole game is so hard

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Whee, I know that cipher too :P

Huh, time for a hard cipher for part III

*when I solve Part III, that is

Where is everyone

On Mars

+1 for the FTL messaging

Hi @Techidiot

Hey

Honestly, puzzlescript.net/play.html?p=b3774631bd335be6ab53 is so hard

@Wen1now What do you mean, FTL? Everyone uses it these days.

Or are you one of the re-animated cryopod specimens?

That would explain it.

Okay, I just had a break. Time to keep trying

Gah! Did one of the things the wrong way around!

Restarting...

I've restarted something like 20 times

Arrgh, and again!

Where is this?

4th level, perhaps? I don't count

Yay!

Nice

How do you do the last level?

lol.

It's actually impossible :(

Oh I got it

Very nice game! Good work!

I kind of just gave up :P

Can't blame you @DestructibleLemon to be honest!

Just beat it. It was good.

I'm working on the gold fleck meta puzzle right now

I had to restart for that one - made a mistake early on and didn't realize it.

Yeah, I've restarted 2 or 3 times figuring out which ones I need where.

Pretty sure I've got it this time

Now to finish the teal/dark grayish puzzle :)

Nice! That one's not too bad.

We'll see if I think of it correctly

Argh, I am stuck on level 3.

Which one is that again?

The one with a vertical wall down the middle.

Yeah, that.

@Deusovi I have to resist the urge to use the red square lol

@Deusovi The single laser one?

or do you mean the red fleck rock one?

Red fleck rock.

Oh, that one's not too bad, you just need to be careful how you move stuff around.

This level..

@Deusovi do I need to use the brown fleck for the last level? I seriously hope not...

@Sid don't forget you can move the rocks around

Yeah, but their movements are very constricted.

@dcfyj (rot13ed) Abcr, gur oebja syrpx bayl nssrpgf gur sbhegu yriry.

That's what I thought, I'm just bemused at the moment...

I am really stuck on that.

Need a hint?

Yep

Move the bottommost rock first

You're not going to be able to get the bottom rock off of the bottom wall. So get it out of the way, so you can push the others around more easily.

That too

I have tried pushing them around. Doesn't get me anywhere

You can put them in the holes (the black squares)

Move the bottommost rock left, then move the one above it upwards. That should free up the third one.

@Deusovi yeah, I'm not seeing it...

You're on the seventh level. Is there anything unexplained?

Wow, this is hard..

What is this level..

Oh, did you make it to level 4?

That's where it starts to get interesting.

Yeah.

What are these red lines, all blocks on the other side..

Don't worry about the red lines for now.

Have you figured it out yet?

Nope. Stuck.

Maybe there are some rules that I don't know yet..

Do you see anything unexplained that could possibly help you?

If so, you may want to find an explanation.

Unexplained is how I am going to enter through those walls without rocks..

That's a pit, not a wall

but yes, that is certainly interesting. Anything else unexplained that you see?

I think I know what to do after entering into the other side.

But, the problem is how to enter into the other side

Right. Right now you need to focus on this side. What do you see, but not understand, that may help you?

Hey Rand!

Link to the game is in the upper right. It's hard.

Hey! I saw this room in the sidebar and came to investigate.

Why are ogres like onions?

I see a wall with no rocks to help me onto the other side. that doesn't look too helpful

It's the name of a puzzle game by TheGreatEscaper.

puzzlescript.net/play.html?p=b3774631bd335be6ab53

Try it!

@Sid You're right that it doesn't look helpful. Do you see anything that may look helpful?

I wonder why he would give that pit.

(That's where I got stuck the first time I played, by the way.)

Argh..

What's it that I am missing so stupidly

Can you describe to me what you see?

Basically a black wall

Below it are rocks, above it is the ogre

That's meant to be a hole, not a wall.

Anyway, things below it are obviously not helpful because you can't reach them. So what could be helpful?

I still don't know what those dots are about. But, they haven't been helpful so far. And they could just be to shore up the appearance.

There should be two things out of place in the top half.

A pit and the danger thing

(Red thing, that is)

No, I mean above the pit.

It's simply empty

@Deusovi The first laser?

Can you take a screenshot?

@dcfyj The area above the first big pit.

not sure which one you're referring to

As for your question earlier, no I don't really see anything unexplained

oh that one, yeah, that took me a little bit to figure out

I'm talking to Sid with the unexplained thing

@Sid It's not empty! I see two things up there!

Ah, that. I'm not asking if you see anything unexplained. I'm asking if you remember anything unexplained.

I don't believe so...

oh, just 1 thing actually

ok, I think I understand how to to it

Ahaha oh boy, this is amusing

Have you played it, Sp?

:)

Nice!

I'd forgotten about that stuff haha

Playing atm, just a bit past where Sid is

sneaky sneaky TGE

clever game though, I liked it

@Sid - do you see the two things up there that I see? (Besides you, I mean.)

Keep in mind to those that haven't finished it, odds are very high that'll you'll need to do a full restart at some point.

... yeah I just stuffed myself, didn't I. Take 3.

I only had to do one full restart, but a lot of undos.

(wait nvm I had it right, that rock has to be there...)

Good thing for the massive undos (something else I like about Stephen's Sausage Roll)

...I still need to get SSR.

No, clearly, I am too stupid to see anything there..

Really? You don't see anything besides rocks, the pit, and the regular ground in rows 1-4?

I'm still stuck pretty early in SSR and I refuse to cheat in the hope that one rainy day I'll suddenly get it :P

beside the red spot, nope.

I'm stuck early in Snakebird. I am very bad at it.

The red spot is one of the two things I was talking about. You don't see anything else that you haven't seen before, though?

put me out of my misery

what is it that I am missing?

I gave up on Snakebird after it turned into a depth-first-search fest for me :P

@Sid Look where the ground sticks out. Doesn't it look different?

"ground sticks out"?

Look in the first row of the pit.

It fits the ogre, if anything.

Doesn't the ground look different there?

Well, yes. But, that hasn't been helpful to me.

I have been staring at that for a long time

That piece of ground is important. But you've probably tried everything there. So you'll have to find some other way to affect it.

like?

Well, that's what you have to figure out. If you can't do anything there...

hmm, their shape seems to fit those weird rocks from where the laser beam is coming out.

Not that, it seems helpful either..

No, those are different shapes.

@Sp3000 Never heard of it

Is he still in the same room?

@Sid still stuck?

Yeah..

The big pit room with the 4 blocks of ground in it?

yeah.

This level is where the player needs to start using the red block to solve puzzles

That's too much of a spoiler D:

Not really, plus the poor person is quite confused

I did think of thst.

But, if you enter into the red block, you die

no you don't

Just because you're back at level 1 doesn't mean you died

(damnit so close but need to sleep :P)

@Sp3000 which one are you trying to solve?

gold fleck puzzle?

if you're back at level one, how is that any progress?

explore a bit, you'll see

If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, then yeah 3/4

the meta puzzle

@Sid You're back, but things have not been reset.

That one probably took me the longer to solve, figuring out exactly what to do was a little annoying

@Deusovi who's spoiling now? :P

Whoa.

Duh..

that hole changes..

OMG

Wow..

lol, there you go

Ah, so that was what the shape of the hole was for..

and now start the really hard puzzles