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Mark Mayo

00:02

first Chile question is up, looking forward to the others ;)

hippietrail

06:59

some of the talk about tagging korea north korea south korea china taiwan hong kong just seems to miss the point, in fact several points

there is a need for a taiwan tag, it's painfully obvious. there is no need for a korea tag unless i am the only here for whome the tag completing/suggesting/previewing features work. you start typing korea and it shows you the two options. what could be simpler?

the taiwan thing is totally different because it has a name of its own. the korea thing is like the georgia thing. there was no need to have a georgia tag because when you type georgia you see the two existing georgia tags and choose the right one.

Ankur Banerjee

08:40

Yes, but in case of Georgia they are two completely separate entities in different corners of the world. When the tag completion kicks in, people will likely choose south/north but the mapping for Korea should be kept as it's most common usage. It's like having 'People's Republic of China' as main tag and no use of 'China' tag - it surprises because it goes against user expectations of what they'd most commonly use to call the region.

Ankur Banerjee

10:11

PS - If you enter 'Korea', tag completion offers 'South Korea' and 'North Korea' as the two choices. By creating and keeping Korea tag as synonym, we prevent situations in the future where someone with enough rep ends up creating a Korea tag to refer to either region, and then mods / community have to manually retag correctly.

hippietrail

10:22

but in doing so you take a political stance and responsibility for it when people bring it up as an example for how we take sides when we tell them we don't

Ankur Banerjee

You could say the same for allowing to keep a Taiwan tag, a Palestine tag etc - there's no end to the argument there what's political or not.

victoriah

That edit you made to Mark Mayo's answer made it look like he himself agrees with the reverting

Ankur Banerjee

I was kinda find it hard how to phrase it. Maybe I should sign it with my name instead.

victoriah

i don't see why it has to be edited?

you have your answer, he has his

i dunno

or at least don't strike everything out.

Ankur Banerjee

Yes, but his answer gives current state of tags, which I changed. So I felt not to cause confusion if someone comes back later, they should know what current state is.

Mark agrees, btw, with revert.

It's not as if I went behind his back on this. This was discussed in chat last night.

victoriah

10:35

Yeah, but it

's up to him to write that, it looks weird as it is now

hippietrail

no you can't say they same because tag suggestions don't do anything for palestine or taiwan

Ankur Banerjee

-1

A: Should the "Korea" tag redirect to "South Korea"?

OK, after seeing the counter-arguments, and thinking, and waiting for the other mods to comment (They seem to have sensibly overlooked it ;)), I'm going with this: korea is perfectly fine for meaning South-Korea in conversation, manufacturing, and political discourse. It's not a political comm...

victoriah

I never thought I would be the kind of person to get bothered by a tag

hippietrail

i'm not bothered but i feel i won't be able to argue with trolls if we don't take the neutral line

Ankur Banerjee

Okay, so how are you defining 'neutral' here?

hippietrail

10:37

no need for a synonym. just have the north one and the south one

Martin Tapankov

I think the situation should work mostly well .. since korea points to south-korea, it would never appear as is, but would always be replaced by its synonym

Ankur Banerjee

What Martin says

victoriah

I'm not bothered about the tag situation so much as the really poor moderator actions

hippietrail

i'd be happier fixing future people remaking korea than arguing with trolls who say we have double standards

i was pretty surprised by the mods too actually

it's what kim jong il might've done if was a mod... and from the south (-;

... and if he were alive

Ankur Banerjee

Mea culpa on poor mod behaviour. The way I saw it, removing the Korea tag would open up floodgates like the 'three Chinas' situation.

victoriah

10:40

You're completely wrong about that

And, your comments about "not having a conversation in comments" were just.. insulting

hippietrail

so the next question is if we need this synonym/redirection, shouldn't we do it for all ambiguous place names, starting with georgia?

victoriah

Muh, I was so hyped about being the first one to post a north korea question too :)

hippietrail

i see no such floodgates. i only see troll floodgates

Martin Tapankov

@hippietrail: Dear God, I hope not.. two tag wars are enough for one week

victoriah

seems like too much effort, there's too many placenames with hte same name

hippietrail

10:41

there was another one?

victoriah

can deal with it as it comes up

Ankur Banerjee

@victoriah That's SE policy. If you keep commenting too many times, SE itself will prompt you to shift to chat. I didn't mean it in an "end of discussion" way. :)

Martin Tapankov

china/taiwan and SK/NK

hippietrail

does it do that for meta discussions too? and if so what does discussion mean if not "discuss stuff here"?

Martin Tapankov

let's not touch Georgia.. I don't want it on my mind

victoriah

10:42

I don't see the benefit of moving a site-related discussion to chat where most people won't see it and won't be able to correlate the time stamps

hippietrail

there was a china taiwan tag war i didn't notice? i thought it only came up hypothetically in the NK/SK thread

Ankur Banerjee

-1

Q: The "China" tag should refer to both the Republic of, and People's Republic of, China

So right now we have china and it refers to the People's Republic of China (PROC)! I find this a bit wrong, no matter the fact that we'll have a lot more questions about the PROC than the Republic of China (ROC) (taiwan), that the ROC is regarded as a rebel province by the PROC, or that lots of ...

victoriah

I always assume it meant for off-topic and "chatty" comment threads

Ankur Banerjee

Didn't happen, but it was a possibility

hippietrail

we already had the discussion about georgia. originally they wanted to keep georgia for the country

victoriah

10:44

they didn't?

what other georgia is there?

hippietrail

yeah i thought that meta question was just a rhetoric stunt as part of the NK/SK thing

Martin Tapankov

the US state

Ankur Banerjee

@victoriah Not necessarily. And I didn't make up policy about not using comments section.

Martin Tapankov

we got trolled on that one, I feel

Ankur Banerjee

Georgia is a more ambiguous one. One is a state, other a country. That's why synonym mapping is not clear-cut.

victoriah

10:45

@AnkurBanerjee Can you describe one benefit of moving that discussion to chat?

hippietrail

i think you don't need synonyms for either. i find the state vs country to be a straw man

victoriah

haha wow i totally forgot there was a US state georgia. i thought it would be like a county in new zealand or something

Ankur Banerjee

@victoriah None. I'd prefer to have it on Meta myself, but SE policy is 'no extended conversations in comments'.

victoriah

Can you link to this policy+

hippietrail

i thought the georgia tag was done in meta but looks like it was done here in chat which i think is logged but isn't googleable

victoriah

10:47

:/

Ankur Banerjee

There's a search bar upper right, @hippietrail

hippietrail

surely the no extended policy only kicks in at the point stack exchange tells you so

Ankur Banerjee

Yes, and I wanted to pre-empt that because it is considered bad form.

hippietrail

Oct 7 at 9:05, by hippietrail

i also think we should move georgia to georgia-country now that we also have georgia-us

history never repeats, but it's sometimes quoted

Ankur Banerjee

4 mins ago, by Ankur Banerjee

Georgia is a more ambiguous one. One is a state, other a country. That's why synonym mapping is not clear-cut.

hippietrail

10:49

i like such issues best when they're handled simultaneously in chat and meta since they each have different strengths and weaknesses

if you follow the oct 7 link you can see the rest of the whole thread rather than just my textbite (-:

victoriah

i don't agree with discussing stuff like that in chat at all

at least things that are going to be like permanent

it doesn't make any sense, bc later on if someone questions it, it's really hard for them to find the discussion surroundign it

hippietrail

somebody told me georgia isn't called "republic of georgia" and i was trying to check. wikipedia seems to sugest that it is

Ankur Banerjee

I remember, it was I who had a chat with you on Georgia.

And we discussed this republic-of-georgia not being correct too

@victoriah We can always link back to threads in chat on meta.

hippietrail

well it's easier to feel each others thoughts or emotions or whatever in chat. in comment threads it feels a lot like taking stabs at each other since we have to premeditate what we'll say and fit it into a fixed number of characters

victoriah

It makes it harder for an outsider to find and it pretty much limits the discussion to the very small number of people who visit chat regularly.. I guess I dislike it because I'm not one of them :p

Anyway time for dagens, vi ses

hippietrail

10:54

actually i think somebody in "real life" said it wasn't the official name now too

i'm checking the georgian .gov website

vi ses!

Ankur Banerjee

@victoriah @hippietrail I've already mentioned this in meta, but to both of you I do apologise. You guys contribute a lot to the community and take active interest. It must feel hurt to things overruled. I think the takeaway here is us mods should take more time to discuss and sort things out rather than jumping on one answer, then reverting in chat etc

hippietrail

this PDF from the georgian gov website says the official name is "Georgia" \-: and i get nothing when i search the gov site for "republic of georgia" but the search continues...

no worries

so should we bother doing polls/votes on site decisions in the future?

Ankur Banerjee

Yes of course.

hippietrail

the georgian ministry of foreign affairs seems to be the only place in all .gov.ge that uses "republic of georgia". most other hits are about the briefly existing state a century ago or the soviet republic

Ankur Banerjee

What does Wikipedia quote?

hippietrail

11:04

then this wikipedia page suggests that "republic of" was officially removed in the 1995 constitution

Ankur Banerjee

As a citation

hippietrail

^ Constitution of Georgia. Chapter 1. Article 1.3. Parliament of Georgia. Retrieved on June 28, 2009

Ankur Banerjee

So it's simply Georgia now?

Roflcoptr

thats a useless discussion. I want to change the liechtenstein tag to principality of liechtenstein

hippietrail

seems like it. i would ask here as an official question but i think it's off topic

change it to FL

Ankur Banerjee

11:07

Ah so the Republic of Georgia was incorrect?

FL?

hippietrail

but then we'll need FL-EUROPE and FL-USA

that's what they have on the oval stickers on cars in liechtenstein like switzerland has CH

Fürstentum Liechtenstein

Roflcoptr

lol yes when i travel through europe with my car, a lot of people ask me: did you really travel from florida to europe with your car?

or a little bit better: from finnland?

hippietrail

i should ask a question about the town in japan called Usa (-:

Usa, Ōita

is a city located in Ōita Prefecture, Japan. Usa is famous for being the location of the Usa Shrine, built in 725, the head shrine of all of Hachiman shrines in Japan. Usa is made up of three areas. *Usa, the area surrounding the Usa Shrine *Yokkaichi, the area surrounding the Hongan-ji temple, and an administrative town from the Edo Period *Nagasu, a port area On March 31, 2005 the towns of Ajimu and Innai, both from Usa District, were merged into Usa. As of 2003, the city has an estimated population of 49,021 and the density of 274.94 persons per km². The total area is 178.30 km²....

not to be confused with the bigger place of the same name, of course

Usa District, Ōita

was a district located in Ōita, Japan. As of 2003, the district had an estimated population of 12,739 and the density of 48.85 persons per km². The total area was 260.79 km². District Timeline The district dissolved on March 31, 2005 when the district merged with the old city of Usa to form the new city of Usa. Until March 30, 2005, the district had two towns. * Ajimu * Innai

Usa jingū

, also known as , is a Shinto shrine in the city of Usa in Ōita Prefecture in Japan. Emperor Ojin, who was deified as Hachiman-jin (the tutelary god of warriors), is said to be enshrined in all the sites dedicated to him; and the first and earliest of these was at Usa in the early 8th century. The Usa jingū has long been the recipient of Imperial patronage; and its prestige is considered second only to that of Ise. History The shrine was founded in Kyushu during the Nara period. Ancient records place the foundation of Usa jingū in the Wadō era (708-714). A temple called Miroku-ji was b...

Ankur Banerjee

So I get you're trying to make a rhetorical point here. Here's what I say: just like new-york is used for New York City USA, and not any other New York because that's the most common usage, similarly, korea's most common usage is to mean South Korea.

hippietrail

the problem is it's not always easy to tell what "most common usage" is

where is victoria?

Ankur Banerjee

11:14

I'd say Australia

It's not always easy to tell, true, but as discussed on English.SE and in Mark's first answer, in case of Korea, it is!

Roflcoptr

that's the problem

what is the most common usage

i would propose to use googlefight for that

hippietrail

ah but now the arguments are all circular because unlike the victorias, you never just need a plain unadorned "Korea" (-:

Ankur Banerjee

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Q: What does the most common usage of 'Korea' mean in modern-day English-speaking world?

On Meta.Travel.SE, we have a debate whether our 'Korea' tag should be mapped to 'South Korea'. One of the answers - from the moderator who made the synonym mapping - is that common usage of the word 'Korea' often refers to South Korea the country rather than Korea the region, and when people refe...

word-choice proper-nouns expression-choice places

Roflcoptr

googlefight.com

south korea clearly wins

hippietrail

are we allowed to make bots for stackexchange chatrooms? i had a googlefight one for IRC #wiktionary

all the answers are subjective though. nothing canonical.

so since this tag redirect is so essential why is the america tag not essential?

Ankur Banerjee

11:19

America mapped to US, you mean?

hippietrail

yep all the arguments about the floodgates of wrong tagging apply

Ankur Banerjee

Done

hippietrail

in fact now that i mention it it kinda shows that the floodgates thing was also a straw man

no answer on how essential it is though...

Ankur Banerjee

Very. Most common usage of 'America' is to mean 'USA'.

Thus, it should be there in the system.

Thanks for bring this up. I see united-states already mapped to usa, now mapped america to usa too.

hippietrail

and how is it that we survived so long without it since it is "very essential"?

Ankur Banerjee

11:23

You missed it out on your ever helpful tagging sprees. :)

We didn't have a united-kingdom to uk either, until you suggested it

Which is essential too.

hippietrail

those were uncontroversial which i try to be at least in my tagging if not elsewhere (-:

hehe so what about britain and british isles and great britain then?

Ankur Banerjee

uk <- great britain done

uk <- britain done

hippietrail

well if we're doing essential synonyms there are tons missing

rail to trains

Ankur Banerjee

You have to admit: I may be a bastard, but at least I'm a consistent bastard. :P

hippietrail

only if you fulfil all my tag synonym requests i bug you with from now on d-;

bank-holidays to public-holidays

Ankur Banerjee

11:29

Don't I always do?

BTW, what's the resolution for Georgia? Google results suggest country use is more common

hippietrail

dunno (-:

i wouldn't like to call that one. it will depend on how you structure your google queries for one factor

i think renaming republic-of-georgia to either georgia-caucasus or georgia-country would be best, and not leaving behind a synonym

Ankur Banerjee

Hmmm

hippietrail

come to think of it, why not follow wikipedia like i think we once decided was a policy when picking the tag names for burma/myanmar and the many ways to spell ulan bator

Ankur Banerjee

What about georgia-country for country and georgia-usa for state

hippietrail

seems good to me

i think we should have a meta topic that sets out a policy for ambiguous place names

since i believe we can't fit it all in the FAQ

campsites and campgrounds to camping

Ankur Banerjee

11:41

Done

hippietrail

googlefight.com/…

looks like you'll have to revisit the time you overruled me and chose cellphones over mobile-phones!

wikipedia agrees too

we also have to revisit automobiles and change it to cars after all: googlefight.com/…

in this case wikipedia doesn't agree

Ankur Banerjee

Those are pretty much synonymous without any room for ambiguity

So doesn't matter which way around they are

Synonymous in a dictionary sense that is

hippietrail

so google fight is only to be used to choose most common in cases which are not exact synonyms? i should write these steps down somewhere

flying to air-travel

Ankur Banerjee

Done

hippietrail

11:57

0

A: Topic Challenge - call for topics

Ambiguous place names This will have the added benefit of helping us fix our policy of how to pick the wording for tags when there's more than one Georgia or Korea in the world. Victoria, Australia Victoria, BC, Canada Victoria, Seychelles Usa, Japan New York City New York State ...

Ankur Banerjee

That's a pretty neat idea actually.

Upvoted :)

hippietrail

i'm about to mimic one of mark's questions too

Martin Tapankov

12:13

There are quite a few US cities which have the same names as European ones

most of them are probably not if a great tourist interest

hippietrail

0

Q: How to get to Christmas Island?

Christmas Island is an island of Australia far off the northwest of the mainland, much closer to Indonesia. I know I can fly there but Wikitravel seems to suggest there's no regular ferry or boat transport. It does mention that I might be able to get there by private yacht or by cruise ship. Do...

australia overland islands sea-travel christmas-island

Ankur Banerjee

@MartinTapankov There are a couple of 'New Delhi's in the US too ;)

Martin Tapankov

a couple?!

hippietrail

yes i suppose i could've added that suggestions should have some tourismworthiness but i just left it implied, like linking to the Usa Shrine rather than Usa City

there are two Perths worth visiting

Martin Tapankov

in Sweden there's Habo and Håbo, and they both have the same website habo.se

@hippietrail: For extra hotlist-worthiness, you could have made the title somewhat related to Christmas

btw our unanswered count crept up to 16

hippietrail

12:19

that means questions are so good they need an unusually rare amount of expertise!

Martin Tapankov

lol just found out about a Bulgarian agricultural colony from 1911 in New Mexico called Sofia

hippietrail

where in mexico?

Martin Tapankov

New Mexico, US

hippietrail

oh

would a question asking what this building is or used to be be on-topic?

Ankur Banerjee

12:35

I guess. Haven't we had identify-this questions?

hippietrail

yes but i'm wondering about the scope of what we should identify or not

it looks like it must be historic and have cross cultural significance and maybe there's hope it will be restored, which i think might make it on topic?

Ankur Banerjee

Should be, yeah.

hippietrail

hmm some dude on some blog thinks it was a church. i thought perhaps a former embassy

Ankur Banerjee

Hellenic republic is Greece after all

hippietrail

and they're not throwing money around restoring properties in foreign lands right at the moment

Ankur Banerjee

12:44

Hahahaha, true.

hippietrail

how the hell did we last this long without a ruins??!!

Martin Tapankov

you ruined it!

hippietrail

@AnkurBanerjee you want to look at guidebooks and guides to see if they should be merged or some questions retagged and the tagwiki edits since the guides one says it applies to human guides and guidebooks

Martin Tapankov

seems like other sites are now picking our Topic of the Week (tm)

we should demand a portion of their visits and their firstborns

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Ankur Banerjee

Firstborns LOL :D

Martin Tapankov

12:57

well it seems that's the way copyrights and patents work these days

you can demand pretty much anything

Roflcoptr

something like prima nocta?

Ankur Banerjee

Hmm guides is tricky. We'll need to clean this up next week event.

Martin Tapankov

@roflcoptr I think we can skip that

Roflcoptr

but the jews were the first, even before us

has anyone ever heard of the atacama giant? :D

hippietrail

0

Q: What was this ruined building in Tbilisi that is Greek property?

Yesterday afternoon I went exploring around Tbilisi and up on the path between the Narikala fortress and the Kartlis Deda statue were some old ruined buildings, not ancient but pre-Soviet. One of them has a fence around it to keep people out and a sign declaring it to be the property of the Hell...

greece identify-this tbilisi architecture ruins

Ankur Banerjee

12:59

I have!

Roflcoptr

0

Q: The Atacama Giant

I would really like to see the Atacama Giant. On Wikipedia it is just mentioned that it is in the Atacama desert. But this desert is really big. Where should I look when I want to meet this giant? Picture from Wikipedia So my question is basically: What is the next bigger city from which I can...

chile deserts

then this is for you ;)

Martin Tapankov

hey that's cool!

oh come on, really, somebody fav'ed me again

I'm trying very hard not to have starred comments

3

Roflcoptr

then you should keep your crazy ideas for you ;)

hippietrail

yeah man stop being so fucking interesting!

Martin Tapankov

yes, yes, chuckle at my predicament, go ahead

I can't help it!

hippietrail

13:09

i retagged your giant for you

you think you have problems. you should see how much fun it is to be made fun of constantly for your excessive intelligence and beauty

Martin Tapankov

@Roflcoptr: your giant is visible on google maps!: 19°56'56"S 69°38'2"W

Roflcoptr

ool

thanks

ill include it

Martin Tapankov

should we need a geoglyphs for this?

AFAIR there are other similar creations around the world

Ankur Banerjee

WTH are geoglyphs?

Martin Tapankov

Geoglyph

A geoglyph is a large design or motif (generally greater than 4 meters) produced on the ground and typically formed by clastic rocks or similarly durable elements of the geography, such as stones, stone fragments, gravel, or earth. A positive geogplyph is formed by the arrangement and alignment of materials on the ground in a manner akin to petroforms, while a negative geoglyph is formed by removing patinated clasts to expose unpatinated ground in a manner akin to petroglyphs. Ancient The most famous geoglyphs are the Nazca Lines in Peru. Despite numerous hypothesis, it is due to lack o...

hippietrail

13:16

now click on "directions"...

Ankur Banerjee

Hmm, does it merit own tag or a synonym of something else?

hippietrail

i think it might be premature... until we get another question

Martin Tapankov

more like a synonym

hippietrail

oh that made me think of a great topic challenge!

Martin Tapankov

man-made-stuff

hippietrail

13:17

(yes i thought that too - for landmarks)

Ankur Banerjee

Eh, too vague innit? Babies are also man-made-stuff.

Martin Tapankov

(or possibly ufo-made-stuff, for all those conspiracy theorists)

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hippietrail

topic: Ask questions for currently single-use tags

Martin Tapankov

(please don't star this)

hmm, this is interesting idea

hippietrail

landmarks! it's a fucking mark on the fucking land!

Ankur Banerjee

13:18

Hahahahaha

Roflcoptr

i would have some more geoglyph questions

Martin Tapankov

okay, jeez..

Ankur Banerjee

It can still be a synonym

Done

Martin Tapankov

there's also a giant hand in the desert there, it seems

flickr.com/photos/bigtrip2005/34830558

Ankur Banerjee

Omg don't we have any ex-conspiracy theorists other than me here!

hippietrail

13:22

yes but we're conspiring to keep ourselves secret

Martin Tapankov

not doing a great job, are you

hippietrail

damn! too late to delete that message

Roflcoptr

it always waned to ask a question about the pretended moon landing, but coulnd't figure out how it relates to travel

hippietrail

pretend you're asking from the moon

Martin Tapankov

in moon-ish

or moonese

help with the landmarks wiki: I got this so far:

Unique geographical features, natural or man-made.

hippietrail

13:33

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A: Topic Challenge - call for topics

Boost single-use tags How about an event where we go through our oldest tags that are only applied to a single question and think of at least one more question for each of them? As a bonus any tags that are too hard to think of more questions for should possibly be discarded.

Did you go through the questions with the landmarks tag? I know there's not many yet

Martin Tapankov

we have ios, app, facebook and notifications -- all on the same question!

hippietrail

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Q: Are bots specifically allowed or prohibited in Stack Exchange chatrooms?

I've been spending heaps of time in the travel chatroom recently, just like I once spent lots of time in the Wiktionary IRC channel. On the IRC channel we had a few bots that could automate things we often used to do, such as Google fights and retrieving definitions of words. I had a search aro...

discussion chat robots bots bot

that will be a migrated question with foreign devil tags

Martin Tapankov

@hippietrail: not likely to have any, Stack API is read-only

hippietrail

there's more than one way to skin a cat

Martin Tapankov

and you missed a perfect opportunity for our-robotic-overlords

hippietrail

13:46

i for one am still busy welcoming our naked URL overlords

we can always scrap the screens and stuff

anyone here do much js/webapp/jquery hacking?

chat.stackexchange.com/users/16117/flackbot

Eliza

486 4 4

chatbot discussion

should horseriding be merged into animal-rides?

by the way I much prefer the name animal-riding. "ride" makes it sound like two minutes in a circle at a kiddy park rather than trekking a jungle or desert

that was either really fast or done before i asked (-:

i just noticed new-years is a synonym of seasonal but it would work much better as a synonym of public-holidays

after all days are not really seasons in the same way as tourist season, rainy season, high season, monsoon, etc

@AnkurBanerjee ping

Ankur Banerjee

14:17

On it

You made the season <- new-years mapping, huh. :p

Done and done for new-years and animal-riding

hippietrail

did i? well finally some actual proof of my idiocy d-;

i just flagged another potential synonym since i thought you had hibernated

Ankur Banerjee

last-minute <- short-notice done

Actually, other way round

hippietrail

either way seems fine, didn't googlefight it though d-;

Ankur Banerjee

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Q: "World class" monuments to visit in April

I am trying to plan a month long backpacking trip in April, such that: It has either rich cultural heritage or natural beauty. I am after "world class", breath-taking monuments (so for instance I wouldn't consider Armenia - ignoring the fact that its in Europe - even though it has a couple of r...

weather recommendations

Too open-ended?

hippietrail

seems to be at a glance

Ankur Banerjee

14:32

He's added a lot of criteria though, this seems borderline hmmm

Holy shit dude have you ever looked at your flag weight? o.O

hippietrail

dunno. is it good or bad?

Ankur Banerjee

I think it's the highest on Travel.SE

hippietrail

i added a monuments tag to it because i thought we had it already. it should probably be a synonym of something though, probably landmarks, which I also added

is it based on how much flagging i do and whether the mods say i did it well or misused it?

Ankur Banerjee

Both

Tag synonym done for monuments

hippietrail

i never used to use it at all until i realized it would be an effective way to suggest tag synonyms when no mods were in chat and i didn't have enough score in the tags

silk-route should probably created as a synonym of silk-road, which i think is the more common

Ankur Banerjee

14:39

googlefight!

Done

hippietrail

14:50

weeee!

our stats are closing in on webapps - a non beta se!

Ankur Banerjee

How did a couple of those sites get non-beta billing? :/

Martin Tapankov

closing in? how?

they have 8.7k visits/day

and more of everything

Ankur Banerjee

Oops!

hippietrail

15:06

lucky we didn't see that

Ankur Banerjee

You want to see it? :D

hippietrail

no i have to go buy coffee and rice in georgian

Roflcoptr

16:19

so tomorrow it is venezuela day. and then?

a new geoglyph question

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Q: Is it worth to visit the Nazca Lines?

The Nazca lines are some very famous geoglyphs in Peru. For example you can see a dog in this picture: Picture from Wikipedia From a plane or a satelitte or something similar, this looks really impressive. But how is it if I want to visit it on the ground. Is it worth a visit? Can I see anythi...

landmarks peru

Ivo Flipse

Is it worth to visit Peru at all? ;)

Roflcoptr

i hope so

Ivo Flipse

If you've already booked a flight, I hope so too

Ankur Banerjee

;)

Ivo Flipse

I haven't decided where to go next yet

Ankur Banerjee

16:26

Nice!

hippietrail

oi i'm getting sick of copyediting all these "worth to visit" questions into proper english d-;

"worth visiting" already d-;

Ivo Flipse

Roflcoptr

o

Ivo Flipse

I'd love to visit Nepal + Tibet, but can't really decide in which form

Ankur Banerjee

Which form?

Ivo Flipse

16:32

Well there's certain trips that go through India + Nepal, others only do Nepal+Tibet, the one from the image goes all the way through China as well (but I've already been there this year)

plus I'm not sure whether August/September is the best time to be in the Himalayas, would hate to be stuck in cloudy weather. Imagine standing at the base camp and all you see is frigging clouds...

hippietrail

maybe in human form? (-:

hippietrail

17:08

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Q: Is it possible to get YQL to return multiple JSON results from a site in a single request?

I'm currently using this YQL (Yahoo Query Language) query to convert the JSON from a site to JSONP: select * from json where url="http://airportcode.riobard.com/airport/ABC?fmt=JSON" ABC is the parameter. So I know YQL is designed to be similar to SQL and I think has some feature that lets...

json join yql

let's see which travellers know their code

hippietrail

17:21

anyone here? i have a great idea to attract users!

Ankur Banerjee

Free hunny???

hippietrail

i just used it for my much more obscure georgian language & usage proposal and attracted a person already

who is active on couchsurfing's community/groups?

Ankur Banerjee

Not me, was earlier

hippietrail

well i don't recommend spamming the groups but, for people who are already active there i highly recommend adding a post to whichever destination group you use and mention that they might find our site useful, including a link to an appropriate tag and a really good relevant question

anyway i'm going to plug our georgia tag

Ankur Banerjee

Awesomesauce

hippietrail

17:36

hey can you search your wall posts in facebook? i want to see the times i plugged travel.se there

Ankur Banerjee

Hmm, no.

When I post links, I shorten them using bitly.com

Allows me to know how many click, whether I'm pissing them off bombarding links etc

hippietrail

i had shortened links even though i know they're sometimes useful

stack exchange really needs permalinks for tags since they can be renamed!

couchsurfing.org/…

see if you can read that link

hippietrail

18:09

woohoo georgian language & usage now has five followers (-:

hippietrail

18:53

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Q: A permalink feature for tags would be pretty handy

I just posted to a Couchsurfing group to let people travelling in my area know about the Travel SE site and hopefully attract some new users. I included links to the relevant tags, georgia-country and tbilisi, but the former one has already been renamed a couple of times which made me realize th...

feature-request tags permalink

hippietrail

19:06

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Q: How about a tag wiki edit notification feature?

Over on travel.se I'm pretty sure I'm currently the biggest editor of tag wikis (well excerpts anyway). We have a few guidelines for style etc, like starting with a capital letter and ending with a full stop for uniformity and avoiding the word "is" and overly long excerpts because they can caus...

feature-request notifications tag-wiki tag-wiki-excerpt inbox

Martin Tapankov

21:59

sweden-citizens should be swedish-citizens

Mark Mayo

re the 'worth to visit' question - remember, these are subjective questions, and should be reworded so that they can be objectively answered.

@MartinTapankov how are you seeing the topic of the week being picked? or is this just from the meta comments

(phew, nearly wrote meat comments)

Martin Tapankov

I saw it on Android-SE

Mark Mayo

oh nice

Martin Tapankov

Laura seems to have liked the idea, and she popped the question there.. uhh, figuratively speaking

Mark Mayo

cool

haha

Martin Tapankov

22:12

English metaphors FTW

Mark Mayo

Ice Cream Sandwich week! We should have that, but in lieu of Android OS questions, receive actual Ice Cream Sandwiches...

Martin Tapankov

or actual Androids

Mark Mayo

mmmm, I could do with a new phone

Martin Tapankov

I already have one, but I'm still eyeing that slick Motorola Droid Razr

all right boys 'n' girls, I'm off.. flying home tomorrow for the holidays
be naughty and save Santa the trip!

Mark Mayo

Santa? He knows when you've been sleeping, awake, bad and good? Clearly Santa IS Facebook!

Roflcoptr

22:25

i like ice cream sandwich, but my desire doesn't

hippietrail

yowza!

yeah i think i made some ugly choices with some XYZ-citizens tags but remember if you fix them don't delete the current tag from the question and create a new one like @jonik just did - get a mod to rename it - otherwise we lose the tag wikis. OK not a big deal in these cases but it's a good habit to get into becuase we will sooner or later have some much more substantial tag wikis

picking a topic of the week could make a cute stack API project - you could do a weighted random pick with weighting based on how many votes a suggestion has and how old it is - would spice it up a little compared to just picking the next one - especially if the list gets long

and it would make a nice cross-SE promotion with stackapps.se !

Roflcoptr

yes that would be a good idea

hippietrail

22:52

make it so, number one!

Mark Mayo

23:08

@Roflcoptr, want to edit your Nazca line question, as per my comment? ;) it's a bit subjective at present

And a Desire? Count yourself lucky, I'm still eeking out some semblance of performance on my Hero! :)

hippietrail

hero? desire? i think i'm spending too much time online

Mark Mayo

Hero is 2 years old now ;)

hippietrail

quite young for hero really

Mark Mayo

hah

just realised I'm the only one in my team working next week. I forsee potential problems.

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