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6:10 PM
@Buffy You took an approach to the grading question on Academia that I am not sure I agree with.
Well, I do agree with you given the OP constraint that partial credit is not allowed. But I often think back to the AP test code rubric (I'm paraphrasing here): "Extraneous code without side effects is not penalized."
 
6:45 PM
@BenI. My issue is that you don't penalize a student when you give them a question that can lead to such outcomes. The mistake was that of the teacher.
I didn't worry about partial credit, and actually think it would be wrong to spit hairs here. Student gets the benefit on dumb questions.
 
I'm not sure that it is. If I ask you a yes or no question, the directions are implicit: provide a yes or a no.
 
FWTW, I wasn't enamored of your answer. Sorry.
 
I didn't make an answer :)
There was some other user named Ben, but he isn't me :)
I wasn't enamored of his answer, either.
 
Actually, I was thinking of another question, but also about grading.
Within the last couple of days.
 
My grading is always in the context of a system with only lightly-penalized makeups, and with a system-overview eye towards ensuring mastery of the material so that students can safely move on to the next material. I approach grading differently than anyone that I know.
My system depends on low grades as the motivator to go back and re-hash through the material until it's really learned, and then good grades replace the bad ones.
It's a lot of work for the instructor, but I have good numerical proof that it is effective.
(Also, I have good evidence that, at least with my students, no one does poorly by the end)
 
6:51 PM
Hmmm. Sounds like my approach. Regrading.
 
Which of my grading posts did you disagree with? I'm surprised, we usually are pretty closely aligned.
 
I must have been wrong about seeing a post. Unless it was here.
But I remember looking closely at the username.
The other site has more than twenty "Ben" users, I think.
 
If it doesn't have the two eighth notes by the name, it isn't me.
How many re-attempts did you permit, professor? And did you replace grades or do some sort of averaging?
 
I meant just "Ben" with nothing more. Do a search. I allowed unlimited rework, though I told people to stop (one more try) if doing old work was preventing them from doing new work properly. Usually one or two bites of the apple was enough. If a project was worth 100 points and a student initially got, say 80, they could make up 90% of the difference. Only the first grading set the limit. It was pretty generous.
But intentionally so. I used the 90% rule for quite a while. The philosophy is "You're not here to prove to me that you don't need to be here. It is ok to learn, not just show-off."
It is possible to abuse, of course, by turning in half hearted garbage the first time.
But at the scale I taught, it was never a real issue.
One advantage is that you work a lot with the few people who really need the help. I would even let people resubmit after I'd gone through the correct solution in class. There is still learning possible.
 
7:25 PM
@Buffy +1 to this. I do the same thing!
Sorry I poofed, my classes started.
I didn't like that Ben's answer, either.
My issue with giving full credit, particularly with retakes, is that I now know that they don't understand. I'd rather push them to re-work so that I can help them understand the material better.
Bleh, my next class. Later!
 
 
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