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10:29 AM
Doorknob has unfrozen this room.
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
10:41 AM
@Doorknob Thank you!
 
RGS
RGS
Hey Mr. Xcoder
Thanks for adding me here. Yesterday I read the Jelly tutorial available on the README of jelly's github
I think the next thing to do would be practice a bit, right?
Are the exercises on the jelly hypertraining GH a good place to start?
(also, is the tio.run the best site to run Jelly programs?)
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Hey
Yes, TIO is the best service to run Jelly online. tio.run/#jelly
As a matter of fact, Dennis is the creator of both Jelly and TIO.
@RGS Right. The list of challenges on Github are meant to get you started with Jelly
 
RGS
RGS
@Mr.Xcoder Cool. It did look like so, as I thought it would be unlikely that two different "Dennis" created TIO and Jelly :P
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Not all of them are easy, and certainly some of them require a bit more work in order to get the minimum byte count. But don't worry, we can discuss problems here as you encounter them
 
RGS
RGS
@Mr.Xcoder thanks :D
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
10:56 AM
No problem
 
RGS
RGS
The only thing that is ticking me off is that yesterday I was playing around just with the programs +* and *+ to get a feel for how the tacit thing works
and I was trying to use the rules found here:
and still I couldn't understand the output I was getting
(give me a sec and I'll be more explicit)
NO
holy.... * isn't the multiplication function, is it?
that explains why the programs weren't behaving as expected XD
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Lol :)
Just FYI I've added you to the list of Jelly Students.
 
RGS
RGS
@Mr.Xcoder nice :)
I'm @RGS on GH as well
so you can add that if you want
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
The best way to search "commands" in jelly is to use CMD/CTRL+F on the Atoms page
@RGS Will do, thanks
 
RGS
RGS
or maybe I'm RojerGS
not sure
yup, RojerGS
 
 
10 hours later…
RGS
RGS
8:52 PM
@Mr.Xcoder solving the first 4 challenges is very easy, I just have to use the correct arithmetic operator;
+ for addition,
÷ for division,
× for multiplication
AND _ for subtraction
is there any standard way of saving my progress on the exercises?
or any way you'd suggest I keep track of what I've done?
A more interesting one is the n-th root of x
I'm pretty sure I want to use * to get the exponent and İ to get the inverse of n, I just have to find the correct way of doing x*(1/n)
 
RGS
RGS
9:13 PM
hell yeah, *İ} for the n-th root of k, assuming n is the left arg and k is the right one :')
 
 
1 hour later…
RGS
RGS
10:25 PM
ẋR for the n*m array
do most monads automatically vectorise over lists?
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
10:40 PM
@RGS I'd just use a notepad or something, or use a Gist
 
RGS
RGS
well though of
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Gist has the advantage of being shareable
 
RGS
RGS
the first exercises are quite easy, just a matter of using ctrl-f to look for the right atom :P
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
@RGS Yes, unless explicitly noted
 
RGS
RGS
k thanks
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
10:41 PM
Sure, but they're good for recap
 
RGS
RGS
True, I get it
but it is not like I am going to memorize all of them now, so yeah
can I ask you something about the ¿ quick=
*?
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Yeah sure, you just remember them as you use them over time. But even then, often you still have to CTRL+F to be able to copy-paste:)
@RGS Sure
 
RGS
RGS
@Mr.Xcoder yeah :P
so the GH page says that the syntax for the "while" quick is <body><condition>¿
but how does the parser know what is the body and what is the condition?
for example, I'm trying to write a program that takes a number, and keeps adding 1 until we get to a prime, so I wrote this:
+1Ẓ¬¿
But it doesn't really work xD
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Well... This is slightly more complicated then it may seem
 
RGS
RGS
nah, it seems complicated already :D
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
10:46 PM
This is where links and chains come in
Let me write an example for you
In the meantime, you can read about them a bit in the tutorial I guess
 
RGS
RGS
I will re-read them, then
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
This is going to take a while, I'm on mobile
 
RGS
RGS
oh, we can talk later!
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Nah, it's fine
 
RGS
RGS
look, I really don't want to spend your time like that
it is getting late where I am at, so I'll be heading to bed soon
so maybe you don't really need to worry about this now..?
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
10:52 PM
Ok then
 
RGS
RGS
I hope you understand!
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
We tomorrow
@RGS Of course lol, it's 1AM here too :))
 
RGS
RGS
@Mr.Xcoder xD are you in Central Europe, then?
wait, aren't you greek?
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
You can ping me at any time, I'll get back to you as soon as I have time (the next week is going to be super busy :C)
@RGS Yeah
@RGS Nope
 
RGS
RGS
romanian
at least, that is what your profile says :P
@Mr.Xcoder thanks :) and don't worry!
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
10:55 PM
Wait
Where are you from then mhm
Oops
That looks like genial, which in my (natural) language means brilliant. +1 for that — RGS yesterday
 
RGS
RGS
:P
yes, in my (natural) language, "genial" is a word
so, what is my natural language?
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
:P
Good night
 
RGS
RGS
so you don't want to guess my language?
I'm assuming google translate could even tell you
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
O_o I thought we were playing a cheap subtlety game
The thing is that "genial" is a word with the exact same meaning in Romanian too
 
RGS
RGS
ah wow
I am not romanian
BUT I am aware our two languages have similarities
because they both come from latin
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
11:04 PM
I will have to guess that's spanish
 
RGS
RGS
close :)
portuguese
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Ah nice
 
RGS
RGS
have a good night
we shall talk later :)
 
Mr. Xcoder
Mr. Xcoder
Gn, so shall we
 
RGS
RGS
@Mr.Xcoder I made it, I was able to implement the "get next prime" with the `while loop`:
`+1µẒ¬µ¿`
 

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