@stormy Not made a huge amount of money, too soft for my own good really. Too many other gardeners in it for the money, and lots of regular people without much money needing help over the years. S'okay, I've loved every minute of it, money or no money, beats being in an office all day, I still remember that now... Yes, there are landscape architects here, but only usually used when essential - maybe needing to keep a steep hill from sliding downwards, that kind of thing.