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03:18
@blue There is no alpha hydrogen.
Or in other words, you cannot have a double bond without some sort of rearrangement.
You would need a pentavalent carbon to form a double bond.
Anonymous
Thanks, I had understood it late at night yesterday after looking up the mechanism
07:57
@blue Can you derive the functional relationship : f(x)*f(1/x)=f(x)+f(1/x) just by starting with (1+x^n) ?
Anonymous
@MadhuchhandaMandal Ofc
Anonymous
f(x)=1+x^n. (f(x)-1)=x^n and so on...
Anonymous
(f(1/x)-1)=x^{-n}
Anonymous
Multiply these two
08:00
Oh !!! Yeah. I fithot
*forgot.
How was your exam?
Anonymous
Okay okay. Getting around 140..
Anonymous
Was expecting 150 :/
Anonymous
Yours?
Do you know marks vs rank for wbjee?
Around 125
Anonymous
@MadhuchhandaMandal It differs every year. Last year I know a guy who got 600 rank with 125 marks...
Anonymous
08:02
It can change this year though...
Ok. Hmm.. Lets see what happens this year
I could not do more than 5 chems.
Anonymous
You'll get JU with 125 for sure :)
Anonymous
But maybe not CSE
But not desired stream
Anonymous
@MadhuchhandaMandal Which stream do you want ?
08:03
Hmm
CSE or ECE or IT
Anonymous
With 600 rank you'll get EE
Anonymous
EE is as good as ECE...
What does EE involve?
I am thinking to drop this year
Anonymous
electrical engineering...
And study Chem.
Anonymous
08:04
@MadhuchhandaMandal So early?
Anonymous
Prepare for BITSAT and JEE
JEE around 2000 - 3000 rank will yield nothing
Any droppers here?
Anonymous
yashas
@Yashas How much have u benifited from a year?
Anonymous
His JEE mains marks dropped.....
08:08
Really??
Anonymous
hmm...ask him...i don't want to discuss his marks without his permission...
Have you done the restitution problem of physics in wbjee?
Anonymous
that charged particle one?
Anonymous
which one..i forgot...
No.. A steel ball
Bouncing for 10 secs
Remember?
Anonymous
08:13
oh, i had left it
Anonymous
it was the last problem in the paper
Anonymous
and too long
Anonymous
:P
The options were such shit.... I could reach to answer (25√2-1)/(25√2+1) ... But none of the options matched... Then realised later that it's value is 17/18
Anonymous
it is easy though
Anonymous
08:14
@MadhuchhandaMandal yeah, even i was getting like that...i left it early
Anonymous
no time left
How did you perform in maths?
Anonymous
65 i think...
Anonymous
too many questions
I attempted 70 and got 2 wrong
Anonymous
08:15
i see
Anonymous
good
Anonymous
40/50
Anonymous
and similar in physics...
Hmm
How do you study chem?
Anonymous
08:17
ncert and notes
I mean how do you remember things in chem?
Anonymous
by studying everday :P
Do you understand everything in Chem?
Anonymous
See, you need to work hard in chem to understand just like maths and physics
Anonymous
I've spent 100s of sleepless nights learning chem
Anonymous
08:21
So I don't need to study inorganic much now
And understood inorganic?
Anonymous
yes
Anonymous
Sorry
Anonymous
need to go
Anonymous
08:27
bye
Hmm... See later... I am unable to figure out how to do it !!!
@Yashas Are you there?
 
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12:50
@MadhuchhandaMandal You can study chem in 1 month
@MadhuchhandaMandal It may seem that I dropped just because I did not get into any IIT with CS or EE or a good branch but that isn't the only reason.
It is up to you to decide.
I did some good CS work this year.
So now I have more things like "Did X, Y, Z in high school"
some really good programming stuff
+ took SAT and other high school tests
@blue I dono yet -,-
@blue o0
I was able to finish one chem chapter every day!
except block chem
cud study properly
I had 24x7 to study though.
school might cause problems
@MadhuchhandaMandal Write JEE Advanced then decided whether to drop or not.
You can do chem in 30 days!
thoroughly
I am going to start a full revision of all chem chapters in the next 20 days
I am bad in chem too
You don't need extensive practice like math or physics to be good at chem.
@Yashas But my problem is that I have never read chemistry till date
@MadhuchhandaMandal does not matter
It seems very silly... But I could never understand a topic in Chem
Anonymous
5 hours ago, by blue
hmm...ask him...i don't want to discuss his marks without his permission...
Atomic Structure = modern physics
Physical chem is tooo easy to learn
Nuclear Chemistry = Modern Physics
Chemical Kinetics = just read it once and get the idea
12:59
Inorganic & Organic
you'll never forget
Inorganic = study chemical bonding and you'll get around 10 marks in Advanced
if you don't get time, don't do a detailed study in block chem and qualitative analysis
do coordination chemistry
metallurgy
do the block chem and qualitative analysis at the end
you can study the entire organic syllabus in one week
with 6 hours per day
you'll need some practice after studying if you are studying for the first time
Anonymous
@Yashas Umm, you are exaggerating :P
@blue I am not :|
@Yashas Thanks. I will try.
Hydrocarbons = 2 hours
Aromatic Compounds = 3 hours
Carbonyl Compounds = 3 hours
Carboxylic acids, esters, etc. = 1 hour
Alcohols = 2 hours
Alkyl Halids = 6 - 8 hours
what did I miss?
Amines and other nitro compounds = 2 hours
+ 15 hours practice
Anonymous
13:02
Do carbohydrates
Anonymous
And polymers also
1000 problems
Anonymous
They are easy scoring
yea biomolecules and polymers will fetch you 6-10 marks
@MadhuchhandaMandal When you read, refer to the syllabus!
I know all kinds of bs in biomolecules
and they aren't even in the JEE syllabus
only 5 polymers are there for JEE Advanced I think
Anonymous
Actually read NCERT fully.
Anonymous
13:04
You'll get atleast 30 percent of the questions right
Anonymous
Others you need to work on
@MadhuchhandaMandal If you haven't done physical chem, do it first.
It is easy and scoring.
In inorganic chem do Chemical Bonding , Coordination compounds, metallugy
You will get 20 marks from ^
Will studying ncert be of any help?
No
It won't help for Chem bonding, coordination compounds and metallurgy
it helps but you need more
perfect coordination compounds
you'll need around 4-5 hours
don't pay attention to nomenclature
learn crystal field theory properly
Ok. Thanks very much
Anonymous
13:09
@MadhuchhandaMandal All the best! :)
People around me are saying not to study anything new !!!
Anonymous
They're right...
@blue Thanks !!!
Anonymous
Revise what you've learnt
Anonymous
Thoroughly
13:09
@MadhuchhandaMandal This depends.
Now I am confused!!!
If you don't know anything in chem, then you study important chapters.
Not studying and revising what you know will get you less marks than if you study important chapters which you don't know.
Don't keep studying until the last day though
Anonymous
@Yashas Lol, we are giving opposite advice :P I'll rather chicken out
13:11
then do a revision of all math and physics till 15th
Study chem till May 10th
then do a chem revision
@blue If he doesn't even score 15 or something in chem then he won't even get a rank.
there are cutoffs for subjects in JEE Advanced
@Yashas Really ??????
Yes, they are very small though.
Anonymous
Honestly, it depends. If you haven't studied any chemistry...follow what yashas said
10% or something
Anonymous
If you have studied them then practice more
13:13
I haven't studied chem... :(
Ok
See this question
@MadhuchhandaMandal Study physical chem (too easy to learn) then study chemical bonding, coordination compounds and metallurgy (very important) then do organic.
if time permits, do the rest of inorganic
you already know atomic structure
periodic properties is too easy
needn't study
@MadhuchhandaMandal Y = F/A * l/(delta l)
increasing gradually = l keeps increasing
suddenly = smaller l
it will break faster
But the answer??
let me try
Hmm.. Take ur time
Anonymous
(D) ? @MadhuchhandaMandal
Anonymous
13:26
@MadhuchhandaMandal Hellloaaaa? What's the anwer given?
Anonymous
@Yashas You got the answer?
14:06
@blue C)
I was out for a checkup :-)
Anonymous
@MadhuchhandaMandal Ah, its okay. I thought that they didn't include the mg in the F
Anonymous
(C) is (D) without the mg
Anonymous
Because mg is already present
How did you proceed?
Anonymous
F.x=(1/2)F_oX
Anonymous
Work done is same...
Anonymous
Same extension...
@blue I disappeared :P
I would have guessed C
because it shouldn't depend on mg at all
if the normal length (T = 0 ) was l0
then you can make a new normal length l0' which includes mg
the answer shouldn't depend on the initial tension at all
Ok I get it!!! @blue you consider that the Fo is removed and F is applied (THE weight still hanging) ?
Anonymous
@MadhuchhandaMandal yeah
Anonymous
14:28
@gautampk Hi
Anonymous
@AnimeshAshish Hello :)
15:37
physics.stackexchange.com/q/72696/81224 I want the answer to this question and there seems that I cannot do substantial edits to bump it to the homepage. Please help.
 
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16:40
@ApoorvPotnis You need not consider acceleration to be 0
You can expand binomially to neglect the constant acceleration
16:56
But it will again yeild x^(3/2) in result
17:38
Hii @SoumyoB
can we not use Bayes theorm
you could, but I just don't remember it well
you could easily tweak my solution a little bit to introduce the Bayes theorem in between
\mathbb{P}(\text{the signal transmitted was green }\cap\text{ B received a green signal}) = \mathbb{P}(\text{the signal transmitted was green }\cap\text{ A received a green signal}\cap\text{ B received a green signal})+\mathbb{P}(\text{the signal transmitted was green }\cap\text{ A received a red signal}\cap\text{ B received a green signal})
And how you have written this
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A: Probability of original signal

SoumyoB$\mathbb{P}(\text{the signal transmitted was green | B received a green signal}) = \frac{\mathbb{P}(\text{the signal transmitted was green }\cap\text{ B received a green signal})}{\mathbb{P}(\text{B received a green singal })}$ Here, $\mathbb{P}(\text{the signal transmitted was green }\cap\text{...

18:05
@user123733 Are you sure that answer is 23/40
?
18:15
My approach is : P(Og)= Probability that original signal is Green. P(G)=Probability that received signal is green. (Red gets represented by P(Or) and P(R) respectively )
P(Og|G)=(P(Og) P(G|Og))/(P(Og) P(G|Og) + P(Or) P(G|Or))
P(Og)=4/5 P(Or)=1/5 P(G|Og)=(3/4*3/4+1/4*1/4) P(G|Or)= (3/4*1/4+1/4*3/4)
P(Og|G) [after putting above values]= 20/23
 
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19:50
@MadhuchhandaMandal I get a different answer. The possible sequences ending in G are RRG, RGG, GGG, GRG. (RRG means emitted red, received by A as red, received by B as green.)
The probabilities are RRG=(4/5)(3/4)(1/4)=(12/80), RGG=(4/5)(1/4)(3/4)=(12/80), GGG=(1/5)(3/4)(3/4)=(9/80), GRG=(1/5)(1/4)(1/4)=(1/80).
Sorry just realised I have got probabilities for R and G mixed up.
The probabilities are RRG=(1/5)(3/4)(1/4)=(3/80), RGG=(1/5)(1/4)(3/4)=(3/80), GGG=(4/5)(3/4)(3/4)=(36/80), GRG=(4/5)(1/4)(1/4)=(4/80). Probability that G was emitted if G received at B is (36+4)/(36+4+3+3)=(40/46)=(20/23). Same. Sorry.

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