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5:21 AM
Haha @Rickross Thanksgiving was for all.
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A: What is the meaning of the word "Shiva"?

AghoriDefinition of Shiva is directly given in chapter 4 of Shiv Rahasya while Lord Shiva explaining himself. I am Shiva, the Stillness (Shi) Whereof all Movement (Va) is born. As Water, Fire and the Sun at once move and are still, so I, the Great Life both Move and Stand Still. Verse 8. Therefo...

Have just attempted to explain the meaning of Shiva.
 
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7:59 AM
@Aghori good problem.
 
8:22 AM
@Rickross @RakeshJoshi @TheDestroyer I just posted answer on Shiva Sankalpa Khila Sukta which I was searching earlier:
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A: Is Shiva Sankalpa Suktam also a Khila Sukta of RigVeda?

TezzYes, Shiva Sankalpa Sukta is also a Khila Sukta of RigVeda. In the archive site we can find it in the book Rig-Veda Sayana Commentary Part 4 in the Khilani section where Khila Suktas of RigVeda are given. Shiva Sankalpa Sukta is as: येनेदं भूतं भुवनं भविष्यत् परिगृहिततममृतेन सर्वम् । येन यज...

@Aghori it is the same hymn which you see while opening Tantraloka and written in Red 'Tanme Manaha: ShivaSankalpaMastu..'
 
 
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9:36 AM
There is some problem in Madanadahana story . Why would Shiva will burn him and make Parvati childless . Again he is worshipped in Shri Vidya as Kameshwara . Kameshwara won't go against Kama . These two must be two totally different deities . One pathetically raged ascetic who want to stop birth of New Race and other is exactly opposite of him .
Key to understanding of myths and knowledge in Vedas and Puraanas is Secret Doctrine of H P Blavatsky and books of aurobindo
 
 
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11:31 AM
@RakeshJoshi You understood it wrong. Kama was present at that time in formless form (without Angas). And Parvati was cursed she won't carry any baby in womb. But you can see Shiva's seed (kartikeya). Purusha (seed of Shiva) travelled all along Prakriti (which is nothing but Parvati) and it turned baby with 6 faces (ShanMukha). Same is the case with Vinaayaka. Union of Shiva Shakti happened when Shiva passed his male energy through Trisula, when beheading Vinayaka.
See this question
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Q: Is Kamadeva (Manmatha) still alive or dead?

hanugmI heard a story about Kamadeva, here it is: While Lord Shiva was doing deep meditation, Kamadeva disturbs him by inducing love and desire into Shiva, which caused disturbance to Shiva and made Shiva angry. Because of which Shiva opened his third eye and burned Kamadeva and turned him into ashes....

 
11:55 AM
but why was he burnt that is the moot point.. shiva is himself kameshwara
 
12:18 PM
@RakeshJoshi Yeah and he has control over Kama. To show that.
 
lol .. he would then burn lakshmi to show control over prosperity and money ?
 
1:09 PM
@TheDestroyer

can you show that if these practices of vaishnavas is related to ashtanga yoga ?
 
1:20 PM
@RakeshJoshi Should you want me to say Shiva burning kama is false?
@RakeshJoshi You can read those chapters. I will give you links.
 
because i know about patanjali ashtang yoga and kriya yoga as i have been initiated into it
it has no rituals mentioned in that skanda puran chapter
 
@RakeshJoshi First they do normal puja and they concentrate on Radha Krishna. It's Kriya yoga with Puja.
@RakeshJoshi Did you read that?
 
ok what are the rest of the parts which are not related to pooja ? how they relate to patanjali sutras?
actually the external worship they have written after the yoga i suppose ?
nowhere in whole ashtanga yoga u find external worship

hence either you consider PYS authentic or SP ..
it also looks fishy because shaivite puranas usually dont talk much about vaishnava worship
 
@RakeshJoshi There's a section called Vaishnava Khanda of Skanda Purana. It also includes Venkatachala Mahatyam and may other portions. if you doubt puranas, you are free to not believe them.
 
see yogi's comment on that topic .. if at all there was kriya yoga in vaishnavism wont they know it ?
you should have at least confriemd from people here or someone who you know .
in process of gaining reps sometimes it is possible that people would get mislead.
 
1:30 PM
@RakeshJoshi Why do you even consider his words? That Guy's views are very orthodox. He doesn't consider anything outside his Acharya's words as Hinduism.
 
you should also make sure that if the purana verses are genuine or interpolated

when there can be interpolation in padma, garuda and bhavisya then why not skanda?
 
@RakeshJoshi It's not for rep. At that time, they were saying Kriya Yoga is recent Yoga and Vishnavism doesn't accept Yoga. So, i refuted them posting Q&A.
 
quoting geeta would suffice.. and patanjali sutra is the authority

now also u can change the asswer

patanjali sutra 2.1
if they accept or not .. yoga is present in all the sects .
 
2:23 PM
@LakshmiNarayanan 2 times I wrote the answer of your question. Both time lost my draft. :(
It is not difficult to prove existence of soul with the help of KS philosophy & a little bit of cognitive science.
 
2:39 PM
@Aghori Oh man! Power cuts?
@Aghori ok
 
@LakshmiNarayanan Guests came, while talking to them something happened as I use mobile.
Btw, did you understand the comment?
That is a good hint.
 
@Aghori yes i understood. But I could argue that it is the function of mind as well na
 
Kashmiri Shaivism proves the existence of separate ātmā. One such argument is (short) - Person's mutually unrelated flickers of momentary metal consciousness must have a common and a permanent base without which all activities based on their supposed mutual relationship can't become possible, since all objects are self centered & separate from one another. This permanently existing entity is the Ātma, who, while lying beyond the scope of all ideas of sequence, bears & notices the particulars of all momentary minds in himself. — Aghori 3 hours ago
 
@Aghori Also, this assumes a discontinuity implies lack of a substrate, one can also say that it is blankness of substrate, substrate regardless of state being a bodily function!
 
But there is fresh reality each time of awareness is the work of mind.
How can New awareness link with past awareness.
Example. A single entity needed to perceive both cause & effect. Two entities can't perceive cause & effect as one.
 
2:48 PM
@Aghori the awareness is a basic module that is there, it is the focus of awareness that is stimulus based and that is loosely said to be new awareness..
 
One will perceive cause, another effect.
Yes @LakshmiNarayanan those who believe in no self believe consciousness is temporary & refreshing. :)
Then how new consciousness without any thread can relate to previous consciousness?
 
@Aghori Yeah, it is sometimes difficult to convince this concept - most of my friends all well educated believe that Body generates consciousness or awareness. it is really sad because this is hard to explain so far and convince them that it is not as they think so.
so in order to have a ready reference only i posted the question
 
@LakshmiNarayanan I've yet to read & understand IPK completely. I'm sure I will be able to provide stronger arguments.
 
basically the argument is something like - firing patterns of neurons and other cells in the brain is what is consciousness.
 
Yes. It implies consciousness is temporary because firing patterns are temporary.
Something experienced by X can never be recollected by Y.
 
3:00 PM
exactly, And when i point out that conciousness then becomes a temporary phenomenon the conversation becomes about stuff like, "How best to live this one life" and "We are all going to die anyway" type of deals :\
 
Means?
What they want to prove?
3 mins ago, by Aghori
Something experienced by X can never be recollected by Y.
X & Y must either be same or having same substrata. As we can see they are not same, implies X & Y have same substrata. & That substrata is the soul. :)
 
Honestly, I'm not sure. Somehow it gives comfort to them "knowing" this, different people get different comfort - some feed it into a scientific brand of atheism and justify valuing their rationality as supreme, others get comfort because this justifies materialism, etc,. i can keep going.
@Aghori The argument here is that it is effect of different body or difference in neuron connexions and patterns.
 
Yes @LakshmiNarayanan effects of previous connections of neurons is acceptable but it implies Y is result of X's behavior now. But recollection is still absent. Y's personality is the result of X's personality but Y shouldn't remember anything about X.
How are you dear @RakeshJoshi Sir.
How is your health?
@LakshmiNarayanan I have yet to complete IPK, once I'm done I will provide more dominant arguments.
 
24 mins ago, by Aghori
But there is fresh reality each time of awareness is the work of mind.
if*
Only ok? @LakshmiNarayanan :P
 
3:12 PM
LOL
 
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😂
 
I think the problem is popular imagination conceive of JivAtma as some sort of energy source that powers body
ROFLMAO
@Aghori Now that interviews are done, did you start reading linear algebra?
 
@LakshmiNarayanan I am reading Shiv Rahasya. Thinking to complete some scriptures before July as won't be able to study regularly once I'm into academics again.
 
@Aghori yeah that's a good idea.
 
Have to complete Shiva Rahasya & IPK at least.
 
3:15 PM
Also Congrats! when did you hear back from them?
 
@LakshmiNarayanan Haha, no result yet. :P
 
lulz megatrolling
 
In worst case, I will seek job at Banglore.
 
@Aghori Programming Job?
 
Yes @LakshmiNarayanan . Only choice left. I've done silly mistakes in ISRO as well. Getting 136/240. Waiting for ISRO as well.
 
3:19 PM
@Aghori ok i'm sure you will hear back from IIIT.
 
Thanks @LakshmiNarayanan . :)
 
@Aghori what isro
 
Indian space research organization. Junior scientist.
@LakshmiNarayanan How many publications you will have to present?& Where?
 
yes it is important to be realistic and practical
 
@Aghori Nothing in the near future i'm afraid :(
 
3:23 PM
@RakeshJoshi Yes.
Oh. @LakshmiNarayanan 😓
What problems are you getting?
 
@Aghori It's normal, that's how research is, it takes time and patience.
you have to keep thinking about the same thing so that you are ready when insight strikes
 
Which book you referred for linear algebra? G Hadley?
@LakshmiNarayanan any professor helping you?
 
@Aghori Yeah, it is kind of complicated right now, our incentives and agenda are diverging...
ok brb!
 
Cya.
@RakeshJoshi 🏇🏇🏇
🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇🏇
 
4:03 PM
@RakeshJoshi How do you explain Semen and Ojas for females?
 
4:16 PM
sivananda knows best :)
@LakshmiNarayanan @SS @Aghori

I feel we are a bit too tolerant and liberal when it comes to religion

there are movies and songs where hindu dress, mantras, gods have been mocked.
for example zeenat aman song dum maro dum had insulted hare krsna mahamantra
@Rickross

then there were some women dancing in saffron robes in bhool bhulaiya hare krishna song
 
I don't watch Bollywood Movies
 
4:32 PM
Yes @RakeshJoshi but I also don't watch movies. Boycott Bollywood
 
that is what not happening
 
I don't watch movies.
 
@RakeshJoshi i read his books. He didn't mention that. Do you know answer?
 
2- Bollywood
3- Journalism
 
@Tezz I just posted XYZ.. This is someone else's style .. so why are u copying it? U should try something that is original :D BTW i just now saw ur answer.
@Aghori Yeah me too hate bolywood.. i think i am one of its biggest haters.
 
4:36 PM
@TheDestroyer these are subtle things ... only one gets out of vedantic anti women mindset ..

what all sivananda has written on women ?

is his vedanta is only for men?
 
@RakeshJoshi Ok. You don't know answer. :)
 
@RakeshJoshi Don't know whats there in that song..
 
i cant discuss with one who worships male chauvinists
 
@Rickross it's great. Bollywood is representative of liberalism, sexual-feminism, secularism etc. That's why I hate.
I think Delhi, Mumbai & Goa are Tripurs.
 
@Aghori And moreover its a MUs institution and i just can't stand those barbarians.
 
4:38 PM
@Aghori How can you forget women Empowerment?
 
@RakeshJoshi - BTW , Ashwagandharishta+ Saraswatarishta is also very effective.I tried these two & experienced very good effect.😇
 
Yes. @TheDestroyer I believe in spiritual empowerment of women, not sexual empowerment.
 
@SwiftPushkar @TheDestroyer got lucky.. his answer got accepted even it is not a complete one .. :)
 
@Rickross These cities + Kerala are adharmik areas.
 
@SwiftPushkar yes rasayanas are good but u shd buy from very reputed brands ... many famous compaies just sell crap
 
4:40 PM
@RakeshJoshi Ohh..that's your problem. Got it. How can you say it is not complete? See methods said by Swami Sivananda.
 
no that is not problem . i m not behind "reps" nor i post self answers without verificatio.
 
@RakeshJoshi - oh , ok 💐🍫🍬
 
@RakeshJoshi Obviously, Reps is of no use if it crosses 5k on beta sites. One get all privileges after 5k.
 
:38056671 Yes me too. ...
 
@SwiftPushkar regular intake of "pure" milk is best one .. but it should be real A2 milk not packaged milk or jeresy milk
 
4:43 PM
But I feel, end of such people are near. @Rickross
 
@Aghori I think we can't mention much here..but my attitude against those who cause cows some distress is immense hatred and anger.
 
@Rickross First we have to stop slaughtering any animal. Not just cow. In worst case, animals beloved to us are acceptable in sacrifice.
 
@Rickross yesterday while watching one debate i came to kno that number of mosques in ayodhya, kashi and mathura is almost 3-4 times that of the temples !!!
 
@RakeshJoshi - Yeah , but the Cows milk is best , and also she should be a free romer not a dairy cow , eating lots of natural grass and herbs etc , i prefer desi Cows milk over ,jarsi once 🐮🐄
 
@Aghori it wont be stopped beause majority of hindus themselves eat meat. ...
 
4:46 PM
@TheDestroyer If this answer is not answering the Q then why it is not deleted yet?
 
@SwiftPushkar

Jeresy is NOT a cow itself !!

it is just a milch animal..

i think desi cows should have a hump..
 
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A: What is the meaning of the word "Shiva"?

Keshav SrinivasanYou may be interested in how Shiva got his name. This is discussed in the Shatapatha Brahmana of the Yajur Veda, in the story of the birth of Shiva: [Brahma] said to him, 'My boy, why criest thou, when thou art born out of labour and trouble?' He said, 'Nay, but I am not freed from (guarded ...

@TheDestroyer The above one.
 
@RakeshJoshi @Rickross the Civilization can't be peaceful which slaughter animals just for taste. This earth is for everyone. Not only for humans.
 
@Aghori right but such things have never been practiced till now ...
 
That's why I'm against Democracy. Democracy is pro-human political ideology.
 
4:48 PM
@Aghori All scriptures allow killing only in sacrifices. Otherwise such killigs are bad karma.
 
@SwiftPushkar
jeresy milk is A1 milk which creates health issues desi indegenous breed milk is A2 typpe
 
@RakeshJoshi - yes right , of foreign origin or crossbreed
 
Yes @RakeshJoshi such Promiscuity & Slaughter never happened in out history.
 
@RakeshJoshi - oh , nice info 😊👍👍
 
@Rickross but all east indian and south indian and many north indian states eat non veg heavily ..

only some west indian states are into vegetarianism
 
4:49 PM
@Rickross notified him. Let him take action or you guys can flag it.
 
Yes @Rickross But sacrifice means to oblate something which causes pain - psychological or physical. We can sacrifice only our beloved one.
 
@Aghori i m saying since beginning there was no such time when animals were not killed

when hindus themselves eat then how can we stop slaughter houses ?
 
@TheDestroyer Ok i am flagging it. But how many flags do we need?
 
@Rickross Only rude or spam flags can delete an answer i think.
 
@RakeshJoshi but they used to be dharmik+ human population was less. It was food cycle then.
 
4:52 PM
@RakeshJoshi - Actually it's declining here in Maharashtra , mostly young guys like us do eat it.Varkari & Malkari never it it😊🍗🍖🚫
 
@TheDestroyer If it is not-an-answer then why it cant be deleted? I remember the same Mod manipulated a Q so as to make my answer to it look irrelevant so that he can delete it.
 
Religious Telugu states eat meat heavily. Even Bengal i think.
 
@Rickross - Which Q/A?
 
young guys eat what ?
 
@TheDestroyer - Yeah , Bengali food mostly consist of fish & 🍚🦂🦀🐠🐟rice
 
4:53 PM
@TheDestroyer i said all south and east indian states
 
@Rickross Now we changed the rules and we notify before deleting. But flag it for quick action.
 
@RakeshJoshi - Non-Veg
 
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A: What is the meaning of the word "Shiva"?

Keshav SrinivasanYou may be interested in how Shiva got his name. This is discussed in the Shatapatha Brahmana of the Yajur Veda, in the story of the birth of Shiva: [Brahma] said to him, 'My boy, why criest thou, when thou art born out of labour and trouble?' He said, 'Nay, but I am not freed from (guarded ...

@SwiftPushkar This one.
 
u mean non veg eaters are declining ?
 
@TheDestroyer I have already flagged it.
 
4:54 PM
@Rickross - oh ok 👍
 
ChinmaySarupria Well, personally I don't think there is a Shiva who is eternal. I think that only Vishnu and the other inhabitants of Vishnu's abode of Paramapadam are eternal. I think Shiva is a Jiva, just like Brahma is. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that. – Keshav Srinivasan
 
@RakeshJoshi - Yeah , its my observations though , came to conclude from people's discussion & conversation.Although not a mass😊
 
@SwiftPushkar that is good ... actually for hot climate like indiia meat is not easy to digest daily ... in might be good in cold places like russsia and europe
 
@RakeshJoshi Sir you should format your answer well.
 
4:59 PM
@RakeshJoshi - hmm , we need to see what's diat expert's say. Max farmers , worker's need that for energy they need as their work requires high protein diet.
 
upto eggs its ok .. i think regular meat or beef will generate excess heat in body which is not good for the subcontinent climate
milk and sprouts can give you good protein plus herbs and supplements like spirulina
 
@RakeshJoshi - Yeah , offcours not on daily basis but once or twice a week , and yeah sprouts,➡MY fav.🍤
 
i feel that Arya Vaidya Sala of kottakal is good firm since a century and gives good herbs .. they have branches all over
 
@RakeshJoshi - hmm , people generally prefer local Ayurveda doctors & local brands depending upon region for Ayurveda products , but patanjali is also Making quite interesting products, people now are inclined towards them also
 
we cant rely much.. i dont think all patanjali products are efficacious enough
 
5:15 PM
@RakeshJoshi - Yeah , every manufacturer claims that all their products are 💯% effective but , consumers didn't feel so 😀
 
true
 
BTW GN , will sleep now , I have to increase my Ojas & Tejas , so have to sleep enough ,TC , 🌛💐🌷🙏
 
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5:47 PM
Patanjali is into each and every business now.
 
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