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Nick Land (born 1962) is a British philosopher. He was a lecturer in Continental Philosophy from 1987 to 1999 at the University of Warwick. He was the faculty co-founder, along with Sadie Plant, of the Cybernetic Culture Research Unit (CCRU) at Warwick. He is the author of The Thirst for Annihilation: Georges Bataille and Virulent Nihilism and Fanged Noumena: Collected Writings 1987-2007, along with various articles on cybernetic culture. Bibliography Original works *The Thirst For Annihilation: Georges Bataille and Virulent Nihilism (London and New York: Routledge, 1992) *Fanged Noumen...
Eliminative materialism (also called eliminativism) is a materialist position in the philosophy of mind. Its primary claim is that people's common-sense understanding of the mind (or folk psychology) is false and that certain classes of mental states that most people believe in do not exist. Some eliminativists argue that no coherent neural basis will be found for many everyday psychological concepts such as belief or desire, since they are poorly defined. Rather, they argue that psychological concepts of behaviour and experience should be judged by how well they reduce to the biological ...
Wilfrid Stalker Sellars (May 20, 1912 – July 2, 1989) was an American philosopher. Life and career His father was the Canadian-American philosopher Roy Wood Sellars, a leading American philosophical naturalist in the first half of the twentieth-century. Wilfrid was educated at the University of Michigan (BA 1933), the University at Buffalo, and Oxford, where he was a Rhodes Scholar, obtaining his highest earned degree, an MA, in 1940. During WWII, he served in military intelligence. He then taught at the University of Iowa, the University of Minnesota, Yale University, and from 1963 unti...
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--It occurs to me that Sellars' major theoretical work "Empiricism and the Philosophy of Mind" is particularly resonant with a lot of the ambient concerns of the community...
19:20
Without using my SQL capabilities, I guess that Mozibur is now responsible for more than 50% of the recent questions on the main site. Is that roughly correct?
~12.5% (total)
Close enough. :)
It's kind of inspiring in a way. I wish I was that good at using the site as a journal; of activating this community the way he does. Not that every question is perfect, but that energy is infectious...
But it's kind of... all over the place. How does he do it?
It's a great question. He's very persistent, I think is definitely one key :)
19:32
Has he ever been in chat?
I think so (though he doesn't usually hang out here from what I can tell.)
@commando Your "name", is it Schwarzenegger related?
@Gugg hehe, no actually, it goes way back to when I was like 10 (which is not that long ago, I guess). It was the first nickname I used in an online game, inspired by the game Commandos. I didn't even know about Schwarzenegger then.
sometimes I regret the choice (it's not very representative of me in reality), but I've been using it for so long now...
it's also impossible to find a site where someone hasn't already registered it
So, in reality, you're not shooting everybody in sight?!
nah... I don't even have a gun license
on the topic of "names," where did yours come from? It makes me think of liquid, for some reason.
19:44
Liquid???
probably because of onomatopoeia with swallowing
No, Gugg is Guggenheimer's brother.
glug glug glug
Cheers, symposiasts! :)
hic
goodreads.com/search?utf8=✓&query=guggenheimer
well, that escalated quickly
ahh, I see (also I've never noticed a checkmark in a url before)
19:46
Hmm, weird.
He runs a scythe factory. Philosophy, right?
@commando Did not know about Schwarzenegger?? How can that be? The man is an icon.
I grew up under a rock when it comes to popular movies
on the other hand I consider myself a master of certain games
How about less popular movies? The Big Lebowski? Kingpin? (The philosophy of bowling.)
Hmm. No, actually, the only ones I was really into before my teens were the Harry Potter movies.
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You're that young? Man, you're born in the wrong time.
yeah, well, that problem's exacerbated by the fact that I'm late to everything (I'm 18, by the way - it's on my profile)
ohh, this will upset you:
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Q: Godel's incompleteness theorem applied to idea that the basis to AI is symbol processing, beyond the system

BumSkeeterI've been reading a lot into the philosophy of the mind, intelligence, and artificial intelligence. I have a question regarding the statements made by Allen Newell and Herbert Simon in 1963 that intelligence possibly boils down to symbol processing and the retort (Lucas and Penrose) that this c...

points at "Godel" meaningfully
I think they are doing this on purpose.
I even heard Conway on YouTube talk about Go-Dèl. The horror. (That's an Apocalypse Now reference.)
OK. Want some movie tips?
Sure, I suppose.
20:17
Terror's Advocate, The Usual Suspects, Apocalypse Now, Das Boot, Darwin's Nightmare, The Fog of War, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. Must see.
I have not seen a single one of those. Will do!
Are you f***ing kidding? What did you see? What were the best ones?
Solaris, Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey. Also: Primer, Scanner Darkly.
my favourite movie is Wreck-It Ralph * looks at shoes *
20:20
2 out of 5. Are they recommendable?
I haven't seen any of those either
Oh, and Prometheus.
Good lord, see Prometheus.
Prometheus was really bad.
--If you haven't :)
I haven't seen that either
20:21
If by "really bad" you mean "a triumph"
I mean: REALLY.
It's amazing, but certainly difficult. In passing, the photography alone makes it worth it. But the plot is of course similar to Alien, though it's much "bigger" in its vision...
ironically most of these movies are probably going to have to wait until my classes start, since I'll be less busy then than I am now
My all-time high remains Das Boot. But Darwin's Nightmare I'll never forget.
+1 for Das Boot :)
20:29
Apocalypse Now is awesome as well.
So, would this be a (my) generation thing?
Le Salaire de la Peur. Haven't seen it for decades, but the one time I saw it... Wow.
 
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("The Symposium" might not be the worst community name if we end up graduating...)
maybe, but I think it seriously misrepresents the atmosphere
for the chat space I was in favour of Symposium over everything else, but for the community itself I would much more like something with a similar implication as my "School of Athens" idea
Nice! --Yeah, not trying to insinuate it [graduation] might be imminent or anything. We're doing well but have a good way to go I would think :)
you know, a much more formal, large, and organized structure for learning as opposed to a small, relatively rowdy space for sprawling discussion
something that recently occurred to me (but is probably not a unique idea) was that maybe the 10 000 hour rule, or some similar variant, applies to intelligence in the general sense (of course, it's way out there as a theory, and on the far end of the "nature vs. nurture" debate, but just a thought)
23:20
@commando Oh, sure. Craft and craftiness... :)
In Greek mythology, Metis (Μῆτις, "wisdom," "skill," or "craft") was of the Titan generation and, like several primordial figures, an Oceanid, in the sense that Metis was born of Oceanus and Tethys, of an earlier age than Zeus and his siblings. Metis was the first great spouse of Zeus. By the era of Greek philosophy in the fifth century BC, Metis had become the Titaness of wisdom and deep thought, but her name originally connoted "magical cunning" and was as easily equated with the trickster powers of Prometheus as with the "royal metis" of Zeus. The Greek word metis meant a quality t...
I'll have whatever they were smoking
Yeah, the myths are wild, huh? :)
on the other hand that sort of creativity seems a bit lacking, or perhaps is too often considered "weird" these days
We've "rationalized" madness; forced it to speak only in terms of a clinical institution and so on. --Madness was considered a divine gift...
At certain moments, anyway, in the Ancient world.
Ha, I've specifically avoided rationalizing it, mostly because I seem to possess it in no small amount, and I enjoy every drop

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